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  • Republicans are Nazi vermin.

    From ELON X.@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 23 19:38:07 2023
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    Jonathan Harold Esmond Vere Harmsworth
    [email protected]

    The Nazis co-opted the word "socialism" and meant something entirely
    different
    by it than did the actual socialists of the era. The Nazis absolutely did
    *not*
    mean economic collectivism, i.e. state ownership of the means of
    production and
    distribution, the hallmark of socialism. In fact, the Nazis *privatized* industries that had been taken over by the state under the Weimar
    republic.

    What Hitler and the Nazis meant by their use of "socialism" was a sort of cultural and Aryan identity collectivism. The Nazis were mortally opposed
    to
    Marxism, Leninism, "Fourierism," "Fabian" socialism, "democratic"
    socialism, or
    *any* of the traditional left-wing socialist philosophies. The Nazis were
    not
    left-wing by any stretch of the imagination. The claim that they were is a
    lie
    told by far right-wingnuts to try, unsuccessfully, to pretend there is
    some
    ideological distance between them and outright Nazis.

    Nazis: extreme nationalism
    Socialists: internationalist; national identity is bad

    Nazis: indifferent to existence of private enterprise
    Socialists: collectivist first and foremost regarding enterprise

    Nazis: virulently racist
    Socialists: anti-racist

    Nazis: extreme reverence for the past and "traditional values"
    Socialists: "progressive" - hostility to past and tradition

    Nazis: romantic and folkloric; anti-intellectual
    Socialists: "scientific" and pro-intellectual

    Nazis: glorification of military and war as greatest expression of
    national identity; effective military control of state
    Socialists: military subordinate to civilian-controlled state

    Nazis: aggressively expansionist through war
    Socialists: passively expansionist through collapse of capitalist
    economies due to capitalism's so-called "inherent contradiction"

    Fascism and Nazism are right-wing, not left-wing. The revisionist effort
    by
    right-wingnuts to paint a contrary picture is a failure.

    There is a reason that Nazis were major participants at the "unite the
    right"
    murder rally in Charlottesville in 2017. It's because they are and always
    have
    been extremist right-wing.

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  • From D. Ray@21:1/5 to ELON X. on Thu Nov 23 20:52:01 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.republicans, alt.california
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.society.liberalism

    ELON X. <[email protected]> wrote:

    The Nazis co-opted the word "socialism" and meant something entirely different
    by it than did the actual socialists of the era. The Nazis absolutely did *not*
    mean economic collectivism, i.e. state ownership of the means of
    production and
    distribution, the hallmark of socialism.

    Thanks God.

    In fact, the Nazis *privatized*
    industries that had been taken over by the state under the Weimar
    republic.

    So, Jewish state stole businesses from owners, and Nazis returned it when
    they got to power? Wow, I thought they were bad guys.

    What Hitler and the Nazis meant by their use of "socialism" was a sort of cultural and Aryan identity collectivism. The Nazis were mortally opposed
    to
    Marxism, Leninism, "Fourierism," "Fabian" socialism, "democratic"
    socialism, or
    *any* of the traditional left-wing socialist philosophies.

    Oh, so they *were* good guys?

    Nazis: extreme nationalism
    Socialists: internationalist; national identity is bad

    Being White is bad. Send money to Israel.

    Nazis: indifferent to existence of private enterprise
    Socialists: collectivist first and foremost regarding enterprise

    Whoa. Mind. Blown.

    Collectivist Stalin says hello.

    Nazis: virulently racist
    Socialists: anti-racist

    Hmm… since they were right about everything else, I’m pretty sure they were right about that, too.

    Nazis: extreme reverence for the past and "traditional values"
    Socialists: "progressive" - hostility to past and tradition

    Thanks God we bombed them in Dresden, right? I mean, gay rights, child
    grooming and black troons is what America was fighting for against those
    evil traditionalists, obviously.

    Nazis: romantic and folkloric; anti-intellectual
    Socialists: "scientific" and pro-intellectual

    Sure. Germans were never known for their engineering and scientific
    expertise.

    Shit like that says a lot about intelligence of target audience of this article.

    Nazis: glorification of military and war as greatest expression of
    national identity; effective military control of state
    Socialists: military subordinate to civilian-controlled state

    That’s just a lie.

    Nazis: aggressively expansionist through war

    That’s a lie.

    Socialists: passively expansionist through collapse of capitalist
    economies due to capitalism's so-called "inherent contradiction"

    Good to know that socialists are expansionists. Feels good living in
    collapsing capitalist Weimerica knowing who is getting ready to “expand”.

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