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    From Kenny McCormack@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Oct 26 07:35:34 2021
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    In article <[email protected]>,
    a322x1n <[email protected]> wrote:
    ...
    Why do you think Democrats treated humans as slaves, because
    Democrats see anyone who isn't a Democrat as cattle/slaves to be
    controlled and managed by Democrats.

    That's brutal, but there's a kernel of truth in it. sadly.

    It's not Democrats that're plugging up the hospital ICUs, it's
    Republicans and conservatives, as well as Qanons.

    This is a common game that modern day Republicans like to play. It's so obviously BS, but it is amazing how much traction they still manage to get
    out of it.

    The game to which I refer is to pretend that because the Democrats *were*
    the bad guys (literally, the party of slavery) in the 19th century, that we
    can now tag them as the bad guys today. Totally ignoring the fact that in
    the early-to-mid 20th century, the parties swapped positions and the Republicans (who truly *had* been the good guys - i.e., the party of non-slavery) became the bad guys (the party of slavery, which they still
    are today).

    The people who were of the mindset to be in the Democratic party in the
    19th century are today in the Republican party.

    The story of exactly how-and-why the US parties swapped positions is
    actually a bit more complex than I've implied so far - and doesn't fit
    nicely on a business card - but the basics are close enough. As they say, close enough for government work...

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  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to Kenny McCormack on Tue Oct 26 07:00:35 2021
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    XPost: alt.abortion, soc.women

    On 10/26/2021 12:35 AM, Kenny McCormack wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    a322x1n <[email protected]> wrote:
    ...
    Why do you think Democrats treated humans as slaves, because
    Democrats see anyone who isn't a Democrat as cattle/slaves to be
    controlled and managed by Democrats.

    That's brutal, but there's a kernel of truth in it. sadly.

    It's not Democrats that're plugging up the hospital ICUs, it's
    Republicans and conservatives, as well as Qanons.

    This is a common game that modern day Republicans like to play. It's so obviously BS, but it is amazing how much traction they still manage to get out of it.

    The game to which I refer is to pretend that because the Democrats *were*
    the bad guys (literally, the party of slavery) in the 19th century, that we can now tag them as the bad guys today. Totally ignoring the fact that in the early-to-mid 20th century, the parties swapped positions and the Republicans (who truly *had* been the good guys - i.e., the party of non-slavery) became the bad guys (the party of slavery, which they still
    are today).

    The people who were of the mindset to be in the Democratic party in the
    19th century are today in the Republican party.

    Exactly right.


    The story of exactly how-and-why the US parties swapped positions is
    actually a bit more complex than I've implied so far - and doesn't fit
    nicely on a business card - but the basics are close enough. As they say, close enough for government work...


    Correct. Most people who are aware of the switch are unaware of when it happened. They tend to think it was after the 1964 Civil Rights Act, and that act did indeed cause a stampede of southern white supremacists out of the Democratic party into the Republiscum/QAnon party, but the movement began much earlier. The book "Racial Realignment: The Transformation of American Liberalism, 1932–1965," by Eric Schickler, gives the best exposition of it (https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691153872/racial-realignment)

    There is no doubt whatever that the parties switched, and that today's Republiscum/QAnon white supremacists are only engaging in a cynical game in still trying to tar the Democrats with the "old" Democrats who no longer exist.

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