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  • Does this apply to Christopher Columbus?

    From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 27 20:32:45 2022
    - It is often the failure who is the pioneer in new lands, new undertakings, and new forms of expression.

    Eric Hoffer

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to gggg gggg on Tue Sep 6 20:05:13 2022
    XPost: alt.economics

    On 08/27/2022 08:32 PM, gggg gggg wrote:
    - It is often the failure who is the pioneer in new lands, new undertakings, and new forms of expression.

    Eric Hoffer


    Eight Gs asked:
    Re: Does this apply to Christopher Columbus?

    I do not think so.
    Christopher Columbus was smart, a visionary, who was obsessed with
    his idea of making a great change and becoming famous and rich.
    He was very curious, always learning from those around him.
    He made many trips and learned, and passed on good information
    to other influential people. He could have lived quite well
    with his map making knowledge and abilities.

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 6 22:47:31 2022
    On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 8:05:18 PM UTC-7, a425couple wrote:
    On 08/27/2022 08:32 PM, gggg gggg wrote:
    - It is often the failure who is the pioneer in new lands, new undertakings, and new forms of expression.

    Eric Hoffer

    Eight Gs asked:
    Re: Does this apply to Christopher Columbus?

    I do not think so.
    Christopher Columbus was smart, a visionary, who was obsessed with
    his idea of making a great change and becoming famous and rich.
    He was very curious, always learning from those around him.
    He made many trips and learned, and passed on good information
    to other influential people. He could have lived quite well
    with his map making knowledge and abilities.

    But I thought that had he been more successful with his business he wouldn't have left Italy at all.

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  • From Surreyman@21:1/5 to gggg gggg on Wed Sep 7 01:13:30 2022
    On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 6:47:32 AM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 8:05:18 PM UTC-7, a425couple wrote:
    On 08/27/2022 08:32 PM, gggg gggg wrote:
    - It is often the failure who is the pioneer in new lands, new undertakings, and new forms of expression.

    Eric Hoffer

    Eight Gs asked:
    Re: Does this apply to Christopher Columbus?

    I do not think so.
    Christopher Columbus was smart, a visionary, who was obsessed with
    his idea of making a great change and becoming famous and rich.
    He was very curious, always learning from those around him.
    He made many trips and learned, and passed on good information
    to other influential people. He could have lived quite well
    with his map making knowledge and abilities.
    But I thought that had he been more successful with his business he wouldn't have left Italy at all.

    With a vision as powerful as his (however well, or not, it was applied), it was a total fanaticism that drove him.

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to Surreyman on Wed Sep 7 11:14:18 2022
    On 09/07/2022 01:13 AM, Surreyman wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 6:47:32 AM UTC+1, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 8:05:18 PM UTC-7, a425couple wrote:
    On 08/27/2022 08:32 PM, gggg gggg wrote:
    - It is often the failure who is the pioneer in new lands, new undertakings, and new forms of expression.

    Eric Hoffer

    Eight Gs asked:
    Re: Does this apply to Christopher Columbus?

    I do not think so.
    Christopher Columbus was smart, a visionary, who was obsessed with
    his idea of making a great change and becoming famous and rich.
    He was very curious, always learning from those around him.
    He made many trips and learned, and passed on good information
    to other influential people. He could have lived quite well
    with his map making knowledge and abilities.

    But I thought that had he been more successful with his business he wouldn't have left Italy at all.


    IMHO, he could have been prosperous staying in Genoa (Italy was not so
    much then). But he wanted to be rich and famous, and complete his
    driven compulsion. He left as a common seaman and had great adventures
    and much learning. He gained great new insights.

    With a vision as powerful as his (however well, or not, it was applied), it was a total fanaticism that drove him.


    YO! Surreyman, I just finished a 'great' little book about Columbus
    spending time in Bristol, just the other side of the river from you in
    Wales. I'll cover that separately.

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