• Thoughts on "Shifting Sands: The Unravelling of the Old Order in the Mi

    From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 13 16:21:28 2022
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    Thoughts on "Shifting Sands: The Unravelling of the Old Order
    in the Middle East, by Raja Shehadeh, Penny Johnson (Editor)

    I happened today to pick up an additional book to
    try to keep me 'amused',,, or occupied, or at least
    not demanding a rest break outside to walk on
    the planes wings, for the nearly never ending flight.

    I got this book.
    I decided to check out some overviews, and avoid
    potential pitfalls.

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26151655-shifting-sands

    One reviewer had this IMHO interesting thought:
    "we have the dismal prospect of these countries
    (if they are countries) full of populations who despise each other.
    Where does all this internecine hatred come from ?
    We hear about the Sunni/Shiite split – something akin to he Protestant/Catholic binary opposition in Christianity.
    We see that Europe had its couple of centuries of war and
    brutality between the two groups of Christians. Then an
    accommodation was reached. The Sunni/Shiite division has not
    found any accommodation since the 7th century.
    I would suggest that’s a long time not to find a way of
    existing peacefully with your co-religionists.

    Justin Marozzi says
    The sectarian tensions that bedevil the region today have existed
    in Iraq since Baghdad was founded in the late 8th century.
    Al-Barghouti says (p94)
    Wars among communities of tens of millions, such as the Shiites
    and the Sunnis, are unwinnable. Despite the brutality, in time
    all factions will come to realise that no one can eliminate the
    other.

    A long time indeed. From early Medieval to today!

    And, another way of viewing it: https://www.amazon.com/Shifting-Sands-Unraveling-Order-Middle/dp/156656056X

    One reviewer said, "Four years is a very long time in the
    politics of the Middle East. This collection is interesting.
    But to read it four years after its publication shows up the
    lack of realism on the part of some of the contributors rather
    badly."
    Hmmm, OK

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