• OT - U.S. House approves resolution condemning support of Hamas, Hezbol

    From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 6 12:17:05 2023
    Huge US bi-partisan support = 396-23.
    Clear support from Republicans and Democrats.

    https://thehill.com/policy/international/4291248-house-approves-resolution-condemning-support-hamas-hezbollah-campuses/

    House approves resolution condemning support of Hamas, Hezbollah on
    college campuses
    BY MYCHAEL SCHNELL AND LEXI LONAS - 11/02/23 8:05 PM ET
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    The House approved a resolution Thursday condemning the support of
    Hamas, Hezbollah and other terrorist organizations at higher education institutions, a rebuke of the uproar that has taken place at college
    campuses in the wake of Hamas’s attack on Israel last month.

    The resolution — which the chamber cleared in a 396-23 vote — took aim
    at colleges that have been embroiled in controversy over responses to
    the Israel-Hamas war, declaring that the support of Hamas and Hezbollah
    on campuses “may lead to the creation of a hostile environment for
    Jewish students, faculty, and staff.”

    It also calls on campus administrators to condemn antisemitism on
    college campuses; ensure Jewish faculty, students and guests are able to exercise free speech rights guaranteed to others without intimidation;
    and urges the enforcement of federal civil rights laws meant to protect
    Jewish students.

    “Today, the People’s House sent a clear message to the nation: We firmly reject evil, we strongly support Israel, and we will root out the rotten ideologies found in our higher education system,” Rep. Burgess Owens (R-Utah), the sponsor of the resolution, wrote in a statement Thursday.

    Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) was the lone Republican to vote against the resolution. He was joined by 22 Democrats, a handful of whom are members
    of the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

    The legislation lists a number of examples across multiple campuses
    where either professors or students expressed support for Hamas, a U.S.-designated terrorist organization, after it launched its attack on
    Israel on Oct. 7.

    One instance took place at The George Washington University, where pro-Palestine students illuminated on the side of the library messages
    that said “Free Palestine from the River to the Sea” and “Glory to our Martyrs.”

    During a pro-Palestinian rally at Cornell University, a professor said
    he was “exhilarated” by Hamas’s attack on Israel and declared that “Hamas has challenged the monopoly of violence,” according to The
    Cornell Daily Sun. The professor, Russell Rickford, later apologized in
    a statement “for the horrible choice of words that I used in a portion
    of a speech that was intended to stress grassroots African American,
    Jewish and Palestinian traditions of resistance to oppression.”

    The resolution also noted that one of the most prominent pro-Palestine
    groups on campus, Students for Justice in Palestine, released a
    statement calling for a “day of resistance.”

    Rep. Kathy Manning (D-N.C.), who is Jewish, slammed the antisemitism
    that has been seen on college campuses amid the war between Israel and
    Hamas.

    “Antisemitism is a persistent, shape-shifting hatred that is an affront
    to our values as Americans. It should be condemned by all. It has no
    place on college campuses and universities or in our society,” she said during debate on the House floor Wednesday.

    “When antisemitism and bias against Jews takes hold on campus, it
    deprives students of their equal right to an education and it harms
    everyone in the campus community,” she later added.

    Tensions have been running high at campuses as a rise in antisemitism
    and anti-Muslim sentiments have grown.

    On Tuesday, authorities arrested a Cornell University junior and charged
    him with “posting threats to kill or injure another using interstate communication” after he allegedly posted a threat to open fire at a
    Kosher dining hall on campus.

    The resolution condemning the support of Hamas and Hezbollah on college campuses is one of a number of pieces of legislation the House has
    approved in the wake of the war in the Middle East, and under the
    leadership of newly minted Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.).

    Also on Thursday, the House approved a $14.3 billion Israel aid package.
    Last week, the chamber approved a resolution backing Israel and
    condemning Hamas.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 6 17:41:54 2023
    On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 12:17:05 -0800, a425couple <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    One instance took place at The George Washington University, where >pro-Palestine students illuminated on the side of the library messages
    that said �Free Palestine from the River to the Sea� and �Glory to our >Martyrs.�

    The trouble is that a lot of those carrying signs saying "from the
    river to the sea' don't know WHICH river they're talking about and
    what the consequence of actually doing so would be.

    Most of the regulars here (ok a couple of exceptions!) know that "the
    river" in question is the Jordan though most have figured out that
    'the sea' must be the Meditteranean. A huge portion of those claiming
    to be pro-Palestinian who are using that slogan emphatically DON'T
    know what the achievement of that slogan would be.

    A large number of those protesting are claiming Israeli treatment of Palestinians is a 'genocide' which is remarkable given the Palestinian population in 1948 vs now. If that's really a genocide then the
    Israelis have got to have far exceeded the goofballs on Hogan's Heroes
    for effective genocide!

    The catch is that if you are advocating 'from the river to the sea'
    you are advocating either the complete genocide of the state of Israel
    or the forced relocation of the present population of Israel which is
    by no means 100% Jewish.

    Most of us would support a "two state solution" if it actually did
    bring peace but advocating "from the river to the sea" is advocating
    genocide and despite all the goofy things Congress occasionally does
    is NOT something even the Squad is likely to advocate if expressed in
    those terms.

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Tue Nov 7 19:29:10 2023
    On 11/6/23 17:41, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 12:17:05 -0800, a425couple <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    One instance took place at The George Washington University, where
    pro-Palestine students illuminated on the side of the library messages
    that said “Free Palestine from the River to the Sea” and “Glory to our >> Martyrs.”

    The trouble is that a lot of those carrying signs saying "from the
    river to the sea' don't know WHICH river they're talking about and
    what the consequence of actually doing so would be.

    Most of the regulars here (ok a couple of exceptions!) know that "the
    river" in question is the Jordan though most have figured out that
    'the sea' must be the Meditteranean. A huge portion of those claiming
    to be pro-Palestinian who are using that slogan emphatically DON'T
    know what the achievement of that slogan would be.

    A large number of those protesting are claiming Israeli treatment of Palestinians is a 'genocide' which is remarkable given the Palestinian population in 1948 vs now. If that's really a genocide then the
    Israelis have got to have far exceeded the goofballs on Hogan's Heroes
    for effective genocide!

    The catch is that if you are advocating 'from the river to the sea'
    you are advocating either the complete genocide of the state of Israel
    or the forced relocation of the present population of Israel which is
    by no means 100% Jewish.

    Most of us would support a "two state solution" if it actually did
    bring peace but advocating "from the river to the sea" is advocating
    genocide and despite all the goofy things Congress occasionally does
    is NOT something even the Squad is likely to advocate if expressed in
    those terms.

    I fully agree with your:

    Most of us would support a "two state solution" if it actually did
    bring peace

    and very much wished for that for decades.
    But, sadly, I have lost a lot of hope this last decade.
    Too many 'rulers' are getting their 'satisfiers' ** (power, prestige,
    and sometimes wealth) by keeping the anger, hate, and
    wishes for vengeance in place.

    I appreciate and like Egypt. But my time there last year
    made it even more clear that we would all be great fools
    in even wishing them to become a democracy.

    I'll try adding to this, and give a source of books on
    the subject soon.

    **
    Herzberg's Two-Factor Theory Of Motivation-Hygiene
    Simply Psychology
    https://www.simplypsychology.org › ... › Motivation
    Sep 28, 2023 — According to Herzberg, whether or not dissatisfiers
    outweigh satisfiers predict whether employees find their job interesting
    and enjoyable ...
    ‎Definition · ‎Herzberg's Approach · ‎Motivation Factors · ‎Herzberg's
    Hygiene Factors
    also https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/3-key-factors-satisfier-dissatisfier-theory-product-vinay-nagaraju

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