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  • Re: Why Hitler struck against the Soviet Union

    From Danart@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 30 04:14:21 2024
    Susan Cohen wrote:
    Important evidence has come to light in recent decades that
    shatters
    the official, endlessly repeated view that Hitler, bent on world
    conquest, launched a treacherous surprise attack against a peaceful
    Soviet Union. Long-suppressed documents and other detailed evidence
    shows that by June 1941 Soviet dictator Stalin had built the
    world�s
    largest military machine, and had deployed an enormous strike force
    on
    the western Soviet frontier, in readiness for a massive attack
    against
    Germany that would roll on to overwhelm central and western Europe.
    Hitler�s �Barbarossa� attack, say a growing number of historians in
    Russia, Germany and other countries, was actually a preventive war
    to
    forestall an imminent Soviet strike.



    http://www.ihr.org/sites/default/files/audio/podcasts/The_Mark_Weber_Report-20120104.mp3


    If there is one thing experience has taught me: You can't
    argue with facts.

    The USSR was a #@#@!! after the fall of
    the Romanov. They literally had a civil-war where they divided the
    nation into a Chinese checkers like state.

    Lenin ( who is a J-u-e ) was at fault. I do not blame Hitler for not
    wanting to take over Russia in the name of Christianity. They are
    practically controlled by god-hating nut-jobs who brainwashed people
    into the idea every man is a king and every woman is a queen, but they
    have been reduced to being seen as prostitutes and warmongers. Under
    Romanov the Empire was beautiful even more beautiful then any other
    nation could ever be. USSR splitting was a mistake all done by the
    imaginary war against Christians.

    Bottom-line the US military came to aide Britain. Despite already won
    and Germany itself had a cripple military the Brits bombarded Germany
    multiple times at the civilians who was abused afterwards by the
    various military. Imagine having little or nothing to do with WWII and
    then being subjugated for that fact.

    "Jojo Rabbit (2019)" is the begging of the end and
    "Hellstorm - Exposing Genocide of National Socialist Germany
    Documentary (2015)" is after the end. Anything else is war
    stories. That sums up WWII for Germany.

    Anyways does not matter. The plan Hitler had to deport all the Jews
    came to fruition. Now they could run around circles killing each other
    and everybody else around them and not be in Europe. Many people in
    the war did not care for it.


    This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=642443536#642443536

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to Danart on Thu May 30 10:47:42 2024
    On Thu, 30 May 2024 04:14:21 +0000,
    [email protected]d (Danart) wrote:

    Anyways does not matter. The plan Hitler had to deport all the Jews
    came to fruition. Now they could run around circles killing each other
    and everybody else around them and not be in Europe. Many people in
    the war did not care for it.

    I simply do not see how you can read Mein Kampf and not come to the
    conclusion that 22 June 1941 was the happiest day of Hitler's life.

    His whole purpose in life from roughly 1922 forward was to destroy the
    Soviet Union and replant it with German colonists.

    A World War II scenario that does NOT involve an eventual German
    attack on the Soviet Union either involves a different Hitler or an
    extremely early defeat of Nazi Germany (for instance if Guderian's
    armored force breaks out at Sedan and is then cut off and forced to
    surrender with the war then breaking down basically into "a World War
    I style war of attrition but with tanks and aircraft" meaning that
    Hitler is never able to assemble a force strong enough to credibly
    attack the Soviet Union)

    From Hitler's point of view the whole purpose of 1939-40 was to
    conquer enough territory in the West so that he could secure his
    western flank without getting into the sort of two front war that
    drained Germany as WW1 did while enabling him to get on with what he
    REALLY wanted which was to get on with his invasion of Russia as
    quickly as possible.

    The campaigns in North Africa and Yugoslavia/Greece were all about
    supporting Italy who had created two new fronts that Hitler would have preferred not be opened so he could put his maximum strength against
    the ONLY front he really cared about.

    The Nazi-Soviet pact was seen strictly as a temporary measure to keep
    the eastern front quiet while he got on with his securing of the
    western flank - but even in 1939 the war Hitler REALLY cared about was
    Russia.

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