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    From Percival P. Cassidy@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 22 10:47:25 2020
    Would someone please be kind enough to decipher and translate this for me:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/zztjme599h6i56i/Krueger.png?dl=0

    Perce

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  • From Bernd Niemann@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 23 16:25:21 2020
    Hello!

    Am 22.06.2020 um 16:47 schrieb Percival P. Cassidy:

    Would someone please be kind enough to decipher
    and translate this for me:

    I read:

    Der Br�utigam ist Wittwer
    seit 1837 Decbr.11 v. Elisabethe
    geb. Behmke, v... [...] die
    ...bezeichnete Dispens.
    durch [...] Befreiung v. der ge-
    setzlichen Trauerzeit.

    Can't translate it word by word,
    but the meaning is IMHO:

    The groom is widower of Elisabethe nee Behmke
    since 1837 Dec. 11
    He had a dispensation from the legal time
    of mourning before get permission to remarry.

    HTH
    Bernd from Germany

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  • From Percival P. Cassidy@21:1/5 to Bernd Niemann on Tue Jun 23 13:37:25 2020
    On 6/23/20 10:25 AM, Bernd Niemann wrote:
    Hello!

    Am 22.06.2020 um 16:47 schrieb Percival P. Cassidy:

    Would someone please be kind enough to decipher and translate this for
    me:

    I read:

    Der Br�utigam ist Wittwer
    seit 1837 Decbr.11 v. Elisabethe
    geb. Behmke, v... [...] die
    ...bezeichnete Dispens.
    durch [...] Befreiung v. der ge-
    setzlichen Trauerzeit.

    Can't translate it word by word,
    but the meaning is IMHO:

    The groom is widower of Elisabethe nee Behmke
    since 1837 Dec. 11
    He had a dispensation from the legal time
    of mourning before get permission to remarry.

    HTH
    Bernd from Germany


    Danke sehr, Bernd. But I am sure that his deceased wife's family name
    was Oehmke -- both from other information and from the dissimilarity of
    the shape of that initial letter to the other obvious "B"s in the register.

    I also have an image of the record of Elisabethe's death, and I am
    particularly interested in the cause of death (I cannot even read the
    heading of the column, but in the corresponding column on the facing
    page I see multiple occurrences of "Grippe"). Would you please decipher
    this for me too:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/b1dejnxwuxef3po/Catherine_Oehmke_%28Krueger%29_Death_Record.png?dl=0

    Perce

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  • From Bernd Niemann@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 24 16:04:43 2020
    Hello!

    Am 23.06.2020 um 19:37 schrieb Percival P. Cassidy:

    I am sure that his deceased wife's family name
    was Oehmke

    ACK, this might well be read as Oehmke.


    Would you please decipher this for me too:


    I read:

    [] 11:15: Kr�ger - Ehefrau
    des Maurermeisters Grottis= (?)
    Xstian - Elisabeth m�hlen
    geb. Oehmke zu
    Bunel (?)

    Oehmke - Catharina
    Maurermeister geb.
    Ernst - Nevermann
    zu
    Grottism�hlen (?)

    44 Jahr (?) Darm= 3
    krampf 25 1/2

    --

    Cause of death: Darmkrampf
    leo.org translates to: enterospasm

    Xstian ist the first name "Christian"

    HTH
    Bernd

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  • From Percival P. Cassidy@21:1/5 to Bernd Niemann on Thu Jun 25 08:59:18 2020
    On 6/24/20 10:04 AM, Bernd Niemann wrote:
    Hello!

    Am 23.06.2020 um 19:37 schrieb Percival P. Cassidy:

    I am sure that his deceased wife's family name
    was Oehmke

    ACK, this might well be read as Oehmke.


    Would you please decipher this for me too:


    I read:

    [] 11:15: Kr�ger - Ehefrau
    ��������� des Maurermeisters�� Grottis= (?)
    ��������� Xstian - Elisabeth�� m�hlen
    ��������� geb. Oehmke zu
    ��������� Bunel (?)

    ���� Oehmke - Catharina
    Maurermeister�� geb.
    Ernst -������ Nevermann
    zu
    Grottism�hlen (?)

    44 Jahr (?)� Darm=������ 3
    ������������ krampf���� 25 1/2

    --

    Cause of death: Darmkrampf
    leo.org translates to: enterospasm

    Xstian ist the first name� "Christian"

    Than you again, Bernd. Very helpful.

    Perce

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