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  • Re: Philip Speke, daughter of George Speke / Joan Portman

    From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 4 06:10:56 2021
    Sorry I meant to say that Philip Speake was buried
    Mar 1687
    St Thomas a Becket, Pylle, Somerset


    This Philip(pa) was evidently named for her aunt, also Philip Speake who m Edward Bridger esq

    I had thought until today, that the George Speake died 1637 was the husband of the younger Philip
    But in his will dated 1637 he names *over and over ad naseum* the children of his son-in-law Bridger
    So clearly this will is for the senior George Speake who was born 1553/1557 "elder son" of

    George /Speke/ of Whitelackington, co Som; Knt; MP; Ho
    by Elizabeth /Luttrell/
    First wife, second husband

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 4 05:50:44 2021
    Philip Speke (female)
    was the second daughter of George Speke by Joan Portman

    https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/5111/images/40611_310550-00247?treeid=&personid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=CJq3818&_phstart=successSource&pId=820699

    http://books.google.com/books?id=lF1tAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA422#v=onepage&q=&f=false Burke's Extinct Baronetcies, that she was the only daughter of Joan Portman

    http://books.google.com/books?id=iWRHAAAAYAAJ&dq=george%20speke%20of%20white%20lackington&client=firefox-a&pg=PA1271#v=onepage&q=&f=false
    Burke's Landed Gentry, that she was the second daughter of Joan Portman

    She married
    Edward /Berkeley/ of Pylle, Somerset; esq

    He has a will 1669 in which she is yet living
    I then found
    Philip Berkeley buried at
    St Thomas a Becket, Pylle, Somerset

    It is said that
    Edward /Berkeley/ of Pylle, Somerset; MP; Ho
    was her first son

    https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1690-1715/member/berkeley-edward-1644-1707

    http://books.google.com/books?id=lF1tAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA422#v=onepage&q=&f=false

    However this is not true

    The baptismal register of Pylle, is published at Ancestry

    https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/5111/images/40611_310550-00247?treeid=&personid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=CJq3818&_phstart=successSource&pId=820699


    Register of Pylle, Somerset
    Henry son of Edward Berkeley and Philip his wife was baptised Aug 1642
    - wj

    Evidently Henry died young

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