On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:02:51 PM UTC-8,
[email protected] wrote:
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:41:31 AM UTC-8, Will Johnson wrote:
On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 1:21:41 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
Hello All
I am hoping that some evidence can be found for the descendency of Paul Stuart from his putative parents John Stewart Stewart, 1st of Aubigny lord of Darnley and Marjory Stewart Stuart, of Faslane, descendent via the Earls of Moray from King James
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This connection is recorded in several heritage sites - see examples below- ,
After Ludovic died childless, it was regranted in the French Peerage, and away from the name Stuart entirely, to a line calling themselves Lennox. So there is no way your person could have jumped into this line magically to claim it.
Just to be more precise, The first Lord of Audley was indeed John Stuart of Darnley, but he lived centuries earlier. He became Lord of Aubigny in 1422 as a reward for his support of the French against the English, and held it until his 1429 death. He had
married Elizabeth Lenox, and her lands and his paternal holding of Darnley went to Darnley to his eldest son (in turn father of the first Earl of Lenox), while the second son, another John Stuart, became 2nd Lord of Aubigny. in turn succeeded by his son
Bernard/Berault Stuart, 3rd Lord from 1482. His death without sons in 1502 brought an end to the line of the 2nd Lord, and the second surviving son of his cousin, the Earl of Lenox, was brought over and married to Bernard's daughter. This was Robert
Stuart, 4th Lord, who died childless in 1543.
Again the line was extinct and a scion of the senior line was selected, this time the younger son fo the 3rd Earl of Lenoz, John Stuart, 5th Lord, who held Aubigny until 1567. His son was Esme Stuart, 6th Lord, who became Duke of Lenox and died in 1583.
Again Aubigny was shunted to a younger son, another Esme Stuart, 7th Lord, who would succeed to the duchy of Lenox on the death of his elder brother in 1619, upon which he resigned Aubigny, and selected his three-year-old second son, Henry, who was sent
to Aubigny and there eventually joined by his younger brothers George and Ludovic. Henry, 8th Lord, died as a childless teen in 1632, and was succeeded by George, 9th Lord, who died in the English Civil Wars in 1642, leaving a 2-year-old son Charles in
England. His brother Ludovic, still in France, took the lordship as the 10th Lord, which was contested by the supporters of the infant Charles, and when Ludovic died childless in 1665, his nephew Charles succeeded as 11th Lord, and in turn died childless
in 1672.
It then passed to the French crown and was granted to the Duchess of Portsmouth, mistress of King Charles II of England, as a reward for her using her influences with Charles to bring about a peace treaty. It was when she died in 1732 that it passed to
her grandson, Charles Lennox, Duke of Richmond.
I do this so the original poster can see that there wasn't a John Stuart who held Aubigny since the 15th century, and his male line ended with his son, as did, sequentially, the male lines of each successive holder. This is an all-too-common pattern in
medieval genealgy. Trace back to as far as you can, then find someone famous with the same surname, and fill in the gap with made-up people. This is the pattern seen with a London Holland family, made descendants of the childless Duke of Exeter, and
basically what has been done with several Warren lines. There is only one way to progress effectively, tracing back from what is known, rather than selecting a desirable potential ancestor and inventing a connection, as the person who created this
descent seems to ahve done.
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