On 06-May-23 7:19 AM, Paulo Ricardo Canedo wrote:
A quarta-feira, 1 de junho de 2022 à(s) 02:58:39 UTC+1, Paulo Ricardo Canedo escreveu:
Father Hay claimed Sir William Sinclair, the founder of the Sinclair family, was French and son of Robert de Saint Clair and Eleanor de Dreux, daughter of Robert II de Dreux. How much credence can be given to this claim? The marriage between Robert de
Saint Clair and Eleanor de Dreux is well document but was Sir William Sinclair really their son? An argument against it at
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/St_Clair-21 is that was a Scottish Henry de St-Clair who could have been William's father.
This thread of mine from June 2022 got no answers. I am reviving it in hope of an answer.
According to this
https://sinclairgenealogy.info/scotland/rosslyn-st-clair-family/ the
Sinclairs can be traced in Scotland to the late-12th century, well
before Eleanor of Dreux in 1230 married Robert de Chaumont who was
seigneur of Saint-Clair-sur-Epte - a cadet son of theirs would not very plausibly have been named William and anyway would more likely have
passed Chaumont as a surname to his descendants than St Clair.
Robert de Chaumont is recorded as having had two sons and a daughter by
his first marriage, to Eleanor of Dreux. The elder son's name is unknown
but was quite probably Jean after his father as the second son was named
Robert after hers. The elder son succeeded as seigneur of Saint-Clair
and named two of his sons Jean, both of whom remained in France. The
younger son Robert was seigneur of Sorel and died without issue in 1260.
No William is evidenced in this cadet branch of the Chaumont family.
Peter Stewart
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