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  • Harwick/Hardwich of Somerset

    From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 31 10:39:41 2022
    The father of Thomas Hardwick, b. 1617, and of Capt. William Hardwick, b. abt 16818, is claimed to be a Thomas Hardwick / Harwich, b. abt 1587 of Westbury, Somerset. Is there any information available as to the origins of this latter Thomas?
    Any known connection to the Hardwicks of Staffordshire?

    possible children:
    i Thomas HARDWICK Jr 12 Nov 1617/18 - 1680/81
    ii William HARDWICK 1618 and died 24 Oct 1668
    iii Alice HARDWICK abt 1619/20 - abt 1669 m. __ Foster; ch. Joan, Margaret & John*
    iv Elizabeth HARDWICK abt 1622 abt 1660/69 m. Thomas Boyce

    and possibly*
    Dorothy Hardwick 1629- m. Coyle/Gyle (no relationship given)
    Mary Hardwick 1627– m. Penyman (no relationship given)

    *(mentioned in son William's will)

    Regards, Karen

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Jun 2 09:13:20 2022
    On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 10:39:43 AM UTC-7, [email protected] wrote:
    The father of Thomas Hardwick, b. 1617, and of Capt. William Hardwick, b. abt 16818, is claimed to be a Thomas Hardwick / Harwich, b. abt 1587 of Westbury, Somerset. Is there any information available as to the origins of this latter Thomas?
    Any known connection to the Hardwicks of Staffordshire?

    possible children:
    i Thomas HARDWICK Jr 12 Nov 1617/18 - 1680/81
    ii William HARDWICK 1618 and died 24 Oct 1668
    iii Alice HARDWICK abt 1619/20 - abt 1669 m. __ Foster; ch. Joan, Margaret & John*
    iv Elizabeth HARDWICK abt 1622 abt 1660/69 m. Thomas Boyce

    and possibly*
    Dorothy Hardwick 1629- m. Coyle/Gyle (no relationship given)
    Mary Hardwick 1627– m. Penyman (no relationship given)

    *(mentioned in son William's will)

    Regards, Karen

    Could you give us one or more reliable sources that claim this family existed?

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 3 12:38:24 2022
    I don't know much about efforts to trace the family in England, although it does "ring a bell," but the Hardwicks are fairly well attested to in colonial Virginia records in the 17th century -- if I remember correctly you can find a fair amount of
    information in the Westmoreland County (VA) records (wills, land transactions, etc.) as well as information on births, marriages, and deaths in the Cople Parish records. To be honest, however, it's been years since I last researched the family and I've
    no idea what if anything may have been published or made available online regarding the family prior to immigrating to Virginia. I've run across online claims linking them (of course) to Bess of Hardwick, but never took it seriously (the utter lack of
    documentation doesn't bode well...). Somewhere in my records I may have something that might provide some clue as to where the proposed link to Somerset first popped up, but it may take me a little time to track down.

    Jeff Duvall

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 3 13:27:24 2022
    Looks like an early mention of a possible link between the Hardwicks of Westmoreland Co., VA and a Hardwick family of Westbury, Somerset, England pops up in an article by Arthur L. Keith, "The Hardwick Family" which was published in the William and Mary
    Quarterly (vol. 3, no. 2, pages 97-112) in 1923 -- there may have been additional pages in other vols., but I haven't sorted that out yet.

    Jeff Duvall

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Jun 5 10:43:19 2022
    On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 1:27:25 PM UTC-7, [email protected] wrote:
    Looks like an early mention of a possible link between the Hardwicks of Westmoreland Co., VA and a Hardwick family of Westbury, Somerset, England pops up in an article by Arthur L. Keith, "The Hardwick Family" which was published in the William and
    Mary Quarterly (vol. 3, no. 2, pages 97-112) in 1923 -- there may have been additional pages in other vols., but I haven't sorted that out yet.

    Jeff Duvall

    Can you post a link

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Jun 7 18:19:39 2022
    On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 1:43:21 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
    On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 1:27:25 PM UTC-7, [email protected] wrote:
    Looks like an early mention of a possible link between the Hardwicks of Westmoreland Co., VA and a Hardwick family of Westbury, Somerset, England pops up in an article by Arthur L. Keith, "The Hardwick Family" which was published in the William and
    Mary Quarterly (vol. 3, no. 2, pages 97-112) in 1923 -- there may have been additional pages in other vols., but I haven't sorted that out yet.

    Jeff Duvall
    Can you post a link

    It's in the JSTOR collection, which I have access to through my university. Here's the link via a simple Google search https://www.jstor.org/stable/1921507, but unless you have access to JSTOR I'm not sure how much use that will be. It might also be
    available through Google Scholar (the journal that is), but that may also be behind a paywall (i.e. right back to JSTOR).

    Jeff D.

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  • From taf@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Jun 7 20:24:11 2022
    On Tuesday, June 7, 2022 at 6:19:40 PM UTC-7, [email protected] wrote:

    It's in the JSTOR collection, which I have access to through my university. Here's the link via a simple Google search https://www.jstor.org/stable/1921507, but unless you have access to JSTOR I'm not sure how much use that will be. It might also be
    available through Google Scholar (the journal that is), but that may also be behind a paywall (i.e. right back to JSTOR).


    Anyone can read most older material on JSTOR for free. On the right side of the linked page, click the box saying "Alternate access options" and select "Read Online : Read 100 articles/month free" and it will let you log in using a Google, facebook, etc
    account to set up one on JSTOR, and off you go. You cannot download this material, but if you really want it you can take screenshots and compile them into a printable file or PDF. Likewise, if you somehow find yourself needing to read more than 100 in
    a month, you can always create a new Google account.

    In this case, however, one needn't go through this. Published in 1923, it is out of copyright in the US, and freely downloadable on HathiTrust:

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.31210005150287&view=1up&seq=105

    plus a brief followup note:

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.31210005150287&view=1up&seq=163

    taf

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