On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 2:09:56 PM UTC-8, Cindy H. wrote:
As I understand it, a man's shield could be quartered to display his
mother's arms on the sinister side if his mother were a heraldic heiress.
This is crossing two different practices. Quartering is what would be done by the son of an heiress, and would (as the name suggests) involve dividing the shield in quarters, forming a 2 by 2 grid. with the father's in dexter-top and sinister-bottom
quadrants (1 & 4) the heiress mother's in the others (2 & 3). As additional heiresses brought in additional arms (or if a single heiress brought in multiple arms), these are added to the quartering arrangement, substituting first in quadrant 3, then
quadrant 4, then the 'quarters' would become divisions of 6, 8, etc., to accommodate more, with some 17th century ones being absolutely absurd, with 2 dozen or more.
What you are describing, with just two arms, one dexter, one sinister, is 'impaling' and represents a marriage, where the husband's goes on the dexter side, and the wife's on the sinister side, and this would be done whether the wife was an heiress or
not. It only pertained to the married couple, and a son of the marriage would quarter instead, but only if the wife was an heiress.
Note that like everything else, these were typical practices, not rules, and I can think of examples where the wife's/mother's arms were given precedence over the father's/husband's in both quartered and impaled arrangements (when Walter Blount married
the Toledo noblewoman Sancha de Ayala, the exotic Ayala arms were given precedence), and on occasion, other things were done to represent the union, such as using an inescutcheon - a mini-shield placed overtop the paternal arms, or on a canton - a block
placed in the top dexter corner - rather than impaling or quartering.
Since Katherine Stradling was not, I gather that one would not expect
to see the arms of her presumed father, Sir Edward Stradling, on the
shield of her presumed son, Sir Walter Dennis, or on Walter's memorial
brass in the chapel of Olveston Church, or among any of the heraldic
shields displayed on the wings of Siston Court.
Not on his shield. As to his brass or other funerary display, that could be different. Some of these memorial showed prior marriages of the family, so one might see Dennis impaling Stradling to represent his parents' marriage, but there was a lot of
whim involved in what to display in these, so I wouldn't be surprised either way, if they included it or if they didn't.
Question: When I clicked on "reply all" in order to post directly to this thread,
no text field appeared where I could write a reply. Thus, I'm replying via "New
Conversation." Is that the only way to reply to a message on a thread? This is
my first time doing this!
Not clear what is going wrong, but if you are using Google Groups, hitting Reply All is the only way to respond in the group.
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