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  • Ordering Certificate of Marine Birth

    From Jenny M Benson@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 11 17:18:34 2022
    I have the "Application for an Overseas Birth Certificate" page at the
    GRO site open. I have given the date of birth as 1849, knowing only
    that the child's age was given as 2 on the 1851 Census. (He died in
    1851 but the stupid GRO site does not find the entry and does not allow
    me to enter only the date and reference (which I know from FreeBMD) so
    cannot confirm age there. The compulsory fields are Surname, Forename
    and GRO Reference but the Index to Marine Deaths only has the date as
    1837-1862 and the only reference is "page 154."

    On the order form do I just put "154" or "page 154" as the reference or
    do I need to specify which Index it is? The GRO's own Help is no help
    at all!
    --
    Jenny M Benson
    Wrexham, UK

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  • From Peter Johnson@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Aug 12 16:43:31 2022
    On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 17:18:34 +0100, Jenny M Benson
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    I have the "Application for an Overseas Birth Certificate" page at the
    GRO site open. I have given the date of birth as 1849, knowing only
    that the child's age was given as 2 on the 1851 Census. (He died in
    1851 but the stupid GRO site does not find the entry and does not allow
    me to enter only the date and reference (which I know from FreeBMD) so
    cannot confirm age there. The compulsory fields are Surname, Forename
    and GRO Reference but the Index to Marine Deaths only has the date as >1837-1862 and the only reference is "page 154."


    I've just ordered, in the last month, two certificates from GRO for
    entries that aren't in their index but with details obtained from
    other sites.
    I just went through the links that appear after clicking on 'Place an
    order', you get to a section headed 'How can the event be identified?'
    The first item is 'I know the GRO Index Reference'. Fill in the
    details, including the Volume number and Page number that you got from
    FreeBMD.
    I don't know if its relevant that one of mine, a recent death, was
    ordered on 24 July and only posted yesterday. Two others, ordered at
    the same time, were posted on 28 July.

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  • From Jenny M Benson@21:1/5 to Peter Johnson on Fri Aug 12 20:18:47 2022
    On 12/08/2022 16:43, Peter Johnson wrote:
    I've just ordered, in the last month, two certificates from GRO for
    entries that aren't in their index but with details obtained from
    other sites.
    I just went through the links that appear after clicking on 'Place an
    order', you get to a section headed 'How can the event be identified?'
    The first item is 'I know the GRO Index Reference'. Fill in the
    details, including the Volume number and Page number that you got from FreeBMD.
    I don't know if its relevant that one of mine, a recent death, was
    ordered on 24 July and only posted yesterday. Two others, ordered at
    the same time, were posted on 28 July.

    I am aware that I could order the DC even though I can't find the
    details on their site, but it is not the DC that I want, it is the Birth
    Cert and as it was a Marine Birth there is no volume/page or date more
    precise than a 25-year range.

    --
    Jenny M Benson
    Wrexham, UK

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  • From Peter Johnson@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Aug 14 17:44:58 2022
    On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 20:18:47 +0100, Jenny M Benson
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 12/08/2022 16:43, Peter Johnson wrote:
    I've just ordered, in the last month, two certificates from GRO for
    entries that aren't in their index but with details obtained from
    other sites.
    I just went through the links that appear after clicking on 'Place an
    order', you get to a section headed 'How can the event be identified?'
    The first item is 'I know the GRO Index Reference'. Fill in the
    details, including the Volume number and Page number that you got from
    FreeBMD.
    I don't know if its relevant that one of mine, a recent death, was
    ordered on 24 July and only posted yesterday. Two others, ordered at
    the same time, were posted on 28 July.

    I am aware that I could order the DC even though I can't find the
    details on their site, but it is not the DC that I want, it is the Birth
    Cert and as it was a Marine Birth there is no volume/page or date more >precise than a 25-year range.

    Births or deaths, the same applies, except, obviously, in the case of
    marine births. You haven't tried actually asking the GRO if they can
    give you want you want? I appreciate that communicating with them is a
    bit of an opaque process.
    If there's a register office close to where you live you could try
    visiting. I don't supposed they'd have the information you want but at
    least you'd get the chance to talk to a real person who might be able
    to advise you.

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