• Re: Tusk szykuje Polsce nowe rozbiory, =?UTF-8?Q?mi=C4=99dzy_Niemcami_a

    From andal@21:1/5 to Nostradamus on Sun Nov 10 19:14:08 2024
    On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 19:32:08 +0100, Nostradamus wrote:

    Ukraine-Krieg: Tusk plant Gespräche zur Ukraine-Unterstützung – ohne Deutschland

    Ukraine war: Tusk plans talks on Ukraine support - without
    Germany

    Poland's prime minister has announced talks with partner states to prepare Europe's security policy for the Trump presidency.

    He is apparently not planning to include Germany in this.

    Poland's Prime Minister Donald Tusk is launching a diplomatic offensive to support Ukraine. He will soon meet French President Emmanuel Macron,
    British Prime Minister Keir Starmer, NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte and leading politicians from the Nordic and Baltic states, Tusk said on
    Saturday. The talks are to focus on transatlantic cooperation and the war
    in Ukraine. He has not yet mentioned Germany.

    With regard to the imminent start of Donald Trump's presidency in the USA,
    Tusk said, according to the Reuters news agency, that there was "no doubt
    that this new political landscape represents a serious challenge for
    everyone", "especially in the context of a possible end to the Russian- Ukrainian war as a result of an agreement, for example, between the
    President of Russia and the new President of the United States". Tusk also
    said that he believed there would be a statement "in the near future" on
    the date of a possible ceasefire and on security guarantees for Ukraine.
    This was reported by the Ukrainian-language service of the public
    broadcaster Polskie Radio on Saturday. However, Tusk is said to have
    stressed that such a plan is probably only in the preparatory phase. The decisions would "certainly mean less US involvement in Ukrainian affairs",
    said Tusk, according to Polskie Radio. Ukraine is heavily dependent on US support in its defense against Russia, both militarily and financially.
    Before his re-election, Trump had announced that he would end the war
    within 24 hours if he became president again. However, he avoided the
    question of whether he would maintain support for the country. Trump's
    running mate J. D. Vance had stated that an agreement to end the war would "probably" mean that Russia would keep the territories it had conquered in Ukraine and that Kiev would give up its goal of joining NATO. Trump's
    election is therefore causing concern in Kiev and other European capitals. Observers in Kiev consider Trump's announced timetable to be pure
    rhetoric. Many point to the complexity of the conflict and fear that Trump could rely on a quick deal in talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin
    that would only last a short time and would be to the detriment of the
    attacked Ukraine and its European neighbors. Europe should pay more
    attention to security

    The Ukrainian Nobel Peace Prize winner Oleksandra Matwijtschuk, for
    example, emphasized in a conversation with Handelsblatt that complex
    questions require complex answers. She also pointed out the danger that
    Russia could regroup and attack again, even if it does not try to expand
    for a while.

    Accordingly, calls are mounting that Europe must finally advance security
    on its own continent. Tusk is apparently reacting to this. In the "coming days," he said, "we will coordinate cooperation very intensively with
    countries that have a very similar view of the geopolitical and
    transatlantic situation and the situation in Ukraine."

    Germany does not appear to be one of them at the moment. He has not yet mentioned Scholz or the Federal Republic publicly in connection with the planned talks. Relations between Warsaw and Berlin have cooled after
    initial confidence following Tusk's election as prime minister at the end
    of 2023.

    Scholz did not invite Tusk in October

    Poland plays an important role in European security and defense policy

    as well as within NATO. The country is the EU leader with defense spending
    of over four percent of gross domestic product (GDP) and borders directly
    on Ukraine. Nevertheless, Chancellor Olaf Scholz did not invite Tusk when
    he

    spoke about Ukraine with the current US President Biden, Macron and
    Starmer in Berlin in mid-October.

    Mujtaba Rahman, Europe director of the geopolitical think tank Eurasia
    Group,

    wrote that the Weimar Triangle, i.e. Germany, France and

    Poland, should be "at the center of any EU/European response, but

    Germany is making itself irrelevant."

    The next presidential election will take place in Poland next May.

    However, according to experts, support for Ukraine is not at stake. The country's two major parties are "fully aware of the threat Putin's Russia
    could pose to Poland in the future," said the deputy director of the state research institute Mieroszewski Centre, Lukasz Adamski, on Saturday in
    Kiev. "Therefore, Poland's military support for Ukraine is not in danger,"
    said Adamski. Even before Donald Trump moved into the White House, unusual formats of talks were emerging in the search for solutions to the war in Ukraine, even beyond Tusk's initiative: On Wednesday, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky publicly congratulated Trump. Later in the day, the two spoke on the phone. It was also announced that tech billionaire Elon Musk
    was also present at the talks on Trump's side. The constellation is seen
    as a sign of Musk's future influence on Trump.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?UnVudCDwn4e18J+HscKu?=@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 11 08:15:15 2024
    W dniu 2024-11-10 o 20:14, andal 🇷🇺 pisze:

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    jak w temacie - robota sowieckich piesków.

    --
    Runt 🇵🇱 🇬🇧

    * - Oculum pro oculo, dentem pro dente!

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  • From andal@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 11 15:32:19 2024
    On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 08:15:15 +0100, Runt 🇵🇱® wrote:

    W dniu 2024-11-10 o 20:14, andal 🇷🇺 pisze:

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    jak w temacie - robota sowieckich piesków.

    nie rozumiesz folksdojczu po angielsku

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