Under democracy, private property is respected. Do not take private
property without consent or fair compensation.

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Work <[email protected]> wrote:

Under democracy, private property is respected. Do not take private
property without consent or fair compensation.

You assume too much about what MAY constitute a democracy.

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Janusz_Korwin-Mikke

Democracy means that if this man, you, and I will be trapped on an
island, we having a majority of votes will decide that you have to
sleep with us. That's the Democracy. And with 2/3 votes we can even
put that in the constitution.
source: speech during a meeting in the R. Barbosa High School

--
A. Filip
| The road to ruin is always in good repair, and the travelers pay
| the expense of it. (Josh Billings)

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ltlee1 <[email protected]> wrote:

On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 10:44:02 PM UTC-5, A. Filip wrote:

Work <[email protected]> wrote:

Under democracy, private property is respected. Do not take private
property without consent or fair compensation.

You assume too much about what MAY constitute a democracy.

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Janusz_Korwin-Mikke

Democracy means that if this man, you, and I will be trapped on an
island, we having a majority of votes will decide that you have to
sleep with us. That's the Democracy. And with 2/3 votes we can even
put that in the constitution.
source: speech during a meeting in the R. Barbosa High School

Democracy always have no meanings rationally speaking: procedurally
and outcome based (Or substantial and transactional).

Do you include Swiss _direct_ democracy?
I would suggests "usually+" instead of "always".

<advocatus-diaboli> BTW AFAIK USA have not respected _legal_ property
of slave owners and paid no "fair compensation". Is it a mark of
undemocratic country? </advocatus-diaboli>

There are rules, exception and exceptions to exceptions.

--
A. Filip
| There's nothing to writing. All you do is sit at a typewriter and
| open a vein. (Red Smith)

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ltlee1 <[email protected]> wrote:

[…]
More import, democracy begins with ONE PEOPLE. Civilizational power
is the ultimate soft power. People selectively remember and forget
part of their past to become ONE PEOPLE.

To the extent that a country is not of ONE PEOPLE, "procedural
democracy" would more likely than not, produce the tyranny of the
majority, not real democracy.

Is India more "one people" than China?

--
A. Filip
| An investment in knowledge always pays the best interest.
| (Benjamin Franklin)

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bmoore <[email protected]> wrote:

On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 2:40:34 PM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:

ltlee1 <[email protected]> wrote:

[…]
More import, democracy begins with ONE PEOPLE. Civilizational power
is the ultimate soft power. People selectively remember and forget
part of their past to become ONE PEOPLE.

To the extent that a country is not of ONE PEOPLE, "procedural
democracy" would more likely than not, produce the tyranny of the
majority, not real democracy.

Is India more "one people" than China?

Selectively forgetting parts of the past means living a lie. This "one people" concept, whatever it means, sounds lousy.

IMHO it is not strictly necessary/required for a working democracy but
it helps a lot.

--
A. Filip
| I can't understand why a person will take a year or two to write a
| novel when he can easily buy one for a few dollars. (Fred Allen)

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bmoore <[email protected]> wrote:

On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 12:55:28 PM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:

bmoore <[email protected]> wrote:

On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 2:40:34 PM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:

ltlee1 <[email protected]> wrote:

[…]
More import, democracy begins with ONE PEOPLE. Civilizational power
is the ultimate soft power. People selectively remember and forget
part of their past to become ONE PEOPLE.

To the extent that a country is not of ONE PEOPLE, "procedural
democracy" would more likely than not, produce the tyranny of the
majority, not real democracy.

Is India more "one people" than China?

Selectively forgetting parts of the past means living a lie. This "one
people" concept, whatever it means, sounds lousy.

IMHO it is not strictly necessary/required for a working democracy but
it helps a lot.

What does "one people" even mean? There is dissent in China but we
both know how they handle it.

"Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it."

"One People" should mean _wanting_ to be one people.
It may mean American Civil War (Secession War). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War

In "One PRC China" v "One ROC China" context:
Is ROC ready to change its constitution to be democratic and independent?

--
A. Filip
| If it is a Miracle, any sort of evidence will answer, but if it is
| a Fact, proof is necessary. (Samuel Clemens)

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bmoore <[email protected]> wrote:

On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 1:18:00 PM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:

bmoore <[email protected]> wrote:

On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 12:55:28 PM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:

bmoore <[email protected]> wrote:

On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 2:40:34 PM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:

ltlee1 <[email protected]> wrote:

[…]
More import, democracy begins with ONE PEOPLE. Civilizational power >> >> >> > is the ultimate soft power. People selectively remember and forget >> >> >> > part of their past to become ONE PEOPLE.

To the extent that a country is not of ONE PEOPLE, "procedural
democracy" would more likely than not, produce the tyranny of the
majority, not real democracy.

Is India more "one people" than China?

Selectively forgetting parts of the past means living a lie. This "one >> >> > people" concept, whatever it means, sounds lousy.

IMHO it is not strictly necessary/required for a working democracy but
it helps a lot.

What does "one people" even mean? There is dissent in China but we
both know how they handle it.

"Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it."

"One People" should mean _wanting_ to be one people.
[…]

That still begs the question of what "one people" means.

When? Where?
The meaning is (politically) "very flexible".

--
| While it may be true that a watched pot never boils, the one you
| don't keep an eye on can make an awful mess of your stove.
| (Edward Stevenson)

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XPost: soc.culture.indian, soc.culture.russia, soc.culture.usa

We could make India, China, Russia and the USA one large democracy.

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We could make all four countries one large democracy.


funnyjunk.com

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I dare China to become a democracy.

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On 5/28/2024 7:35 PM, 354476857987589 wrote:

Why don't we make one gigantic democracy?

60% vote brings it into force.

Let's hold a vote in 60 days from now.

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Why don't we make one gigantic democracy?

60% vote brings it into force.

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Become a democracy NOW.

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You will become a democracy.

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Let us make one large democracy.

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maybe we can make one large democracy.

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Today's buzzword is: democracy.

- Howard S. Hong

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We need democracy.

- Howard S. Hong

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Nomen Nescio <[email protected]> wrote:

We need democracy.

- Howard S. Hong

<irony> We need more money. Print more dollars (USD). </irony>

The devil is in the details.

--
A. Filip
| "There is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress."
| (Mark Twain)

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In article <[email protected]>, A. Filip <[email protected]> wrote: >Nomen Nescio <[email protected]> wrote:

We need democracy.

- Howard S. Hong

<irony> We need more money. Print more dollars (USD). </irony>

The devil is in the details.

Print more democracy!

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[email protected] (bmoore) wrote:

A. Filip <[email protected]> wrote:

Nomen Nescio <[email protected]> wrote:

We need democracy.

- Howard S. Hong

<irony> We need more money. Print more dollars (USD). </irony>

The devil is in the details.

Print more democracy!

Democracy (as exported by USA): Something Afghans had not be determined
to defend THEMSELVES.

Democracy is good (in many cases). Democracy is good *for YOU* only if
you do pay attention to "details". No details usually means
bullshitting suckers.

Capitalism _may_ also mean 12h a day child labor.

--
A. Filip
| If you just try long enough and hard enough, you can always manage
| to boot yourself in the posterior. (A. J. Liebling, "The Press")

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