"The administration may claim otherwise, but in prioritizing the Vietnam visit, it is doubling down on its efforts to build a nation-by-nation Cold War-style security bloc to counter China and avoiding working with regional groups — such as ASEAN —
likely to decide the Indo-Pacific region’s future. In an increasingly multipolar world, Washington needs to become more effective at navigating fluid and flexible coalitions, not rerun an old playbook.
...
According to our interviews, Washington has publicly and privately pressured ASEAN members to turn down China’s global infrastructure projects, known as the Belt and Road Initiative, reduce their economic and technological dependence on Beijing and
cancel their military partnerships with the People’s Liberation Army. What the administration heralds as “putting really big, important strategic points on the board” — for example, gaining additional access to the Philippines’ military bases
and holding the largest-ever military exercise with Indonesia — many in the region view as thinly disguised attempts to form a new U.S. security bloc. Upgrading the relationship with Vietnam is just the latest example.

Worse, U.S. efforts to build its network of security partnerships are harming, not improving, ASEAN security concerns. For example, a trilateral initiative (known as AUKUS), in which the U.S. and the United Kingdom plan to equip Australia with nuclear-
powered submarines, alarms some ASEAN states because it puts them geographically in the center of a dangerous U.S.-China tug of war.

Washington’s limited approach to ASEAN as a collective has done little to allay those fears.
...
In the end, Washington’s drive for exclusive partnerships could leave it isolated. No amount of U.S. effort will consolidate ASEAN members as an anti-China bloc because these countries depend on China economically and politically. That long-standing
position is unlikely to change, a former Singaporean defense official told us."

(Kelly A. Grieco is a senior fellow with the Reimagining US Grand Strategy Program at the Stimson Center, an adjunct associate professor of security studies at Georgetown University and a nonresident fellow at the Brute Krulak Center of Marine Corps
University. Jennifer Kavanagh is a senior fellow with the American Statecraft Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and an adjunct professor of security studies at Georgetown University. )
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2023-09-01/joe-biden-asean-vietnam-trans-pacific-partnership

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On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 7:32:58 AM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:

"The administration may claim otherwise, but in prioritizing the Vietnam visit, it is doubling down on its efforts to build a nation-by-nation Cold War-style security bloc to counter China and avoiding working with regional groups — such as ASEAN —

likely to decide the Indo-Pacific region’s future. In an increasingly multipolar world, Washington needs to become more effective at navigating fluid and flexible coalitions, not rerun an old playbook.

...
According to our interviews, Washington has publicly and privately pressured ASEAN members to turn down China’s global infrastructure projects, known as the Belt and Road Initiative, reduce their economic and technological dependence on Beijing and

cancel their military partnerships with the People’s Liberation Army. What the administration heralds as “putting really big, important strategic points on the board” — for example, gaining additional access to the Philippines’ military bases
and holding the largest-ever military exercise with Indonesia — many in the region view as thinly disguised attempts to form a new U.S. security bloc. Upgrading the relationship with Vietnam is just the latest example.

Worse, U.S. efforts to build its network of security partnerships are harming, not improving, ASEAN security concerns. For example, a trilateral initiative (known as AUKUS), in which the U.S. and the United Kingdom plan to equip Australia with nuclear-

powered submarines, alarms some ASEAN states because it puts them geographically in the center of a dangerous U.S.-China tug of war.

Washington’s limited approach to ASEAN as a collective has done little to allay those fears.
...
In the end, Washington’s drive for exclusive partnerships could leave it isolated. No amount of U.S. effort will consolidate ASEAN members as an anti-China bloc because these countries depend on China economically and politically. That long-standing

position is unlikely to change, a former Singaporean defense official told us."

(Kelly A. Grieco is a senior fellow with the Reimagining US Grand Strategy Program at the Stimson Center, an adjunct associate professor of security studies at Georgetown University and a nonresident fellow at the Brute Krulak Center of Marine Corps

University. Jennifer Kavanagh is a senior fellow with the American Statecraft Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and an adjunct professor of security studies at Georgetown University. )

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2023-09-01/joe-biden-asean-vietnam-trans-pacific-partnership

The Economist's article "Joe Biden’s visit to Hanoi is a signal to China: America and Vietnam have a shared interest in
reining in aggression at sea" defends Biden's Hanoi visit: https://www.economist.com/asia/2023/09/07/joe-bidens-visit-to-hanoi-is-a-signal-to-china

"SKIPPING AN ASEAN talkfest in Jakarta and hot on the heels of the G20 meeting in Delhi, Joe Biden is set to make
a state visit to Vietnam on September 10th.
...
Campaigners at home will accuse Mr Biden of cosying up to a regime with an appalling human-rights record. But he
is bent on countering Chinese sway in the Indo-Pacific region. The trip is part of a strategy in which overlapping
security initiatives create a spreading latticework on China’s periphery. Vietnam’s biggest security worry is Chinese
encroachment in the South China Sea and harassment of fishing boats and oil-and-gas exploration vessels in Vietnamese
waters. America lifted a ban on arms sales to Vietnam in 2016 and has since sold it two coastguard cutters. More defence
initiatives may come out of this trip. After also strengthening its military relationship with the Philippines, America may be
planning to challenge China more robustly in the South China Sea."

One, however, to ask: How to measure aggression or aggressive intention? Chinese naval ships showing up in the SCS, or US naval ships thousands of miles to travel to show themselves in the SCS?

China naval ships in the SCS is inevitable because the SCS is China's front door. In contrast, the US INTENTIONALLY send
its naval ships to the SCS to challenge China. They come with aggressive intention.

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On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 7:32:58 AM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:

"The administration may claim otherwise, but in prioritizing the Vietnam visit, it is doubling down on its efforts to build a nation-by-nation Cold War-style security bloc to
counter China and avoiding working with regional groups — such as ASEAN — likely to decide the Indo-Pacific region’s future. In an increasingly multipolar world,
Washington needs to become more effective at navigating fluid and flexible coalitions, not rerun an old playbook.

Peggy Nanoon had a piece several days ago in the WSJ entitled "Biden’s Fibs Are a 20th-Century Throwback."

"What these stories have in common is that they are cinematic. They’re pictures—the glistening scholar, the rumble.
...
Mr. Biden has always taken it too far, and here is a small theory on why he tells lies. It is not only that, in terms of his
nature and personality, he likes to make up stories and to be at the center of them.
...
Mr. Biden became a pol before everything was on tape, so you could make up pretty much anything and not get caught.
This was true of others in his political generation. Hillary Clinton got in trouble in 2008 for claiming she’d come under fire
in a diplomatic visit to Bosnia. She didn’t; there was videotape. But she started out before videotape was accessible and
ubiquitous.

What is peculiar is that they don’t change when times change, and they get caught. This is testimony to the power of habit,
but also connects to the old world of politics as a school of entertainment. Fifty and 100 years ago politicians were
supposed to entertain you. One way to do it was through rousing and sentimental stories."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/bidens-fibs-are-a-20th-century-throwback-corn-pop-foer-unions-2024-e29a484a?page=1

Nanoon's piece does raise questions.
" Fifty and 100 years ago politicians were supposed to entertain you. One way to do it was through rousing and sentimental stories."
Biden does tell a rousing and sentimental story of good democracy like the US versus evil autocracy like China. But is the reality?
Nanoon found Biden and Hillary don't change when times change. Is Biden not also bringing his old time Cold War mentality into
the 21 century?

...
According to our interviews, Washington has publicly and privately pressured ASEAN members to turn down China’s global infrastructure projects, known as the Belt and Road Initiative, reduce their economic and technological dependence on Beijing and

cancel their military partnerships with the People’s Liberation Army. What the administration heralds as “putting really big, important strategic points on the board” — for example, gaining additional access to the Philippines’ military bases
and holding the largest-ever military exercise with Indonesia — many in the region view as thinly disguised attempts to form a new U.S. security bloc. Upgrading the relationship with Vietnam is just the latest example.

Worse, U.S. efforts to build its network of security partnerships are harming, not improving, ASEAN security concerns. For example, a trilateral initiative (known as AUKUS), in which the U.S. and the United Kingdom plan to equip Australia with nuclear-

powered submarines, alarms some ASEAN states because it puts them geographically in the center of a dangerous U.S.-China tug of war.

Washington’s limited approach to ASEAN as a collective has done little to allay those fears.
...
In the end, Washington’s drive for exclusive partnerships could leave it isolated. No amount of U.S. effort will consolidate ASEAN members as an anti-China bloc because these countries depend on China economically and politically. That long-standing

position is unlikely to change, a former Singaporean defense official told us."

(Kelly A. Grieco is a senior fellow with the Reimagining US Grand Strategy Program at the Stimson Center, an adjunct associate professor of security studies at Georgetown University and a nonresident fellow at the Brute Krulak Center of Marine Corps

University. Jennifer Kavanagh is a senior fellow with the American Statecraft Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and an adjunct professor of security studies at Georgetown University. )

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2023-09-01/joe-biden-asean-vietnam-trans-pacific-partnership

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