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  • Jacob 18-years-low/working years in scripture or history?

    From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 14 03:42:47 2025
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    Now from my fuzzy memory of scripture, Jacob had to
    work for seven years before he could marry Leah and
    another seven before he could marry Rachel. So
    for a long while I was assuming that he had a period
    of 14 low/working/wilderness years, similar to Rama.

    However more recently I have divined that Jacob
    had 18 low/working years, the most of any human
    (and the same as 9 cetaceans) in the last 10,000 years.

    So is there any evidence in scripture or in history
    of the extra four years, or total of 18 years,
    rather than 14 years?

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 14 04:02:55 2025
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    XPost: alt.history, soc.history.ancient

    On Mar 14, 2025, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<[email protected]>):

    Now from my fuzzy memory of scripture, Jacob had to
    work for seven years before he could marry Leah and
    another seven before he could marry Rachel. So
    for a long while I was assuming that he had a period
    of 14 low/working/wilderness years, similar to Rama.

    However more recently I have divined that Jacob
    had 18 low/working years, the most of any human

    before me. I have gone 29 years, the common 7 plus
    two 11 year sunspot cycles. Jesus and David went 3 years.
    Daniel went 7 years. Moses and Mohammed went 14 years.

    (and the same as 9 cetaceans) in the last 10,000 years.

    So is there any evidence in scripture or in history
    of the extra four years, or total of 18 years,
    rather than 14 years?

    Also Jacob is said to have issued blessings to the tribes
    on his deathbed. Is there any evidence that instead
    it was at the end of the 18 (or 14) years?

    Also was his nighttime “wrestling” with his God a one-time
    occasion or did it take place over years?

    And I seem to remember that Jacob was, like Odin and
    Lugh, raven-associated. Is that true.

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    And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 23 04:48:25 2025
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    XPost: alt.history, soc.history.ancient

    On Mar 14, 2025, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<[email protected]>):

    Now from my fuzzy memory of scripture, Jacob had to
    work for seven years before he could marry Leah and
    another seven before he could marry Rachel. So
    for a long while I was assuming that he had a period
    of 14 low/working/wilderness years, similar to Rama.

    However more recently I have divined that Jacob
    had 18 low/working years, the most of any human
    (and the same as 9 cetaceans) in the last 10,000 years.

    So is there any evidence in scripture or in history
    of the extra four years, or total of 18 years,
    rather than 14 years?

    March 23 is National Jacob Day.

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    David Dalton [email protected] https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
    And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)

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  • From Christ Rose@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Sun Mar 23 08:13:57 2025
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    Sun, 23 Mar 2025 04:48:25 -0230 <[email protected]>
    David Dalton <[email protected]> wrote:
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    On Mar 14, 2025, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<[email protected]>):

    Now from my fuzzy memory of scripture, Jacob had to
    work for seven years before he could marry Leah and
    another seven before he could marry Rachel. So
    for a long while I was assuming that he had a period
    of 14 low/working/wilderness years, similar to Rama.

    However more recently I have divined


    What do you mean by "divined"?


    that Jacob
    had 18 low/working years, the most of any human
    (and the same as 9 cetaceans) in the last 10,000 years.

    So is there any evidence in scripture or in history
    of the extra four years, or total of 18 years,
    rather than 14 years?

    March 23 is National Jacob Day.


    Yeah, I'm not seeing that in the Bible or history.


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