• Interesting Comment From Brett Bellmore

    From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 24 08:19:05 2025
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    Here is an interesting comment from Brett Bellmore.


    https://reason.com/volokh/2025/01/22/trumps-executive-order-banning-affirmative-action-and-dei-preferences/?comments=true#comment-10881183

    A basic problem here is that you can, demonstrably, persuade people
    that racial discrimination is a moral wrong. The general public has
    arrived at that position, even if some of our governing elites haven’t yet.

    And you can persuade people that racial discrimination is morally
    right, at least if it’s against OTHER people, as Jim Crow demonstrated.

    What has yet to be demonstrated is that you can persuade the
    majority that racial discrimination against themselves is morally right.

    Advocates of racial preferences, for whatever excuse, risk a partial victory: Persuading the majority that racial discrimination isn’t wrong, while failing to persuade them that it ought to be against themselves.

    That’s not a place we want to return to, is it?

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  • From Loose Cannon@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Jan 25 20:12:04 2025
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    On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 08:19:05 -0800, Michael Ejercito
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Here is an interesting comment from Brett Bellmore.


    https://reason.com/volokh/2025/01/22/trumps-executive-order-banning-affirmative-action-and-dei-preferences/?comments=true#comment-10881183

    A basic problem here is that you can, demonstrably, persuade people
    that racial discrimination is a moral wrong. The general public has
    arrived at that position, even if some of our governing elites haven�t yet.

    And you can persuade people that racial discrimination is morally
    right, at least if it�s against OTHER people, as Jim Crow demonstrated.

    What has yet to be demonstrated is that you can persuade the
    majority that racial discrimination against themselves is morally right.

    Advocates of racial preferences, for whatever excuse, risk a partial
    victory: Persuading the majority that racial discrimination isn�t wrong, >while failing to persuade them that it ought to be against themselves.

    That�s not a place we want to return to, is it?


    Who the hell is Brett Bellmore and why would any White person care
    what he thinks?

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  • From Clean Country@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 26 09:15:08 2025
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    On 25 Jan 2025, Loose Cannon <[email protected]> posted some news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 08:19:05 -0800, Michael Ejercito
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Here is an interesting comment from Brett Bellmore.


    https://reason.com/volokh/2025/01/22/trumps-executive-order-banning-aff >>irmative-action-and-dei-preferences/?comments=true#comment-10881183

    A basic problem here is that you can, demonstrably, persuade
    people
    that racial discrimination is a moral wrong. The general public has
    arrived at that position, even if some of our governing elites haven�t
    yet.

    And you can persuade people that racial discrimination is morally >>right, at least if it�s against OTHER people, as Jim Crow
    demonstrated.

    What has yet to be demonstrated is that you can persuade the
    majority that racial discrimination against themselves is morally
    right.

    Advocates of racial preferences, for whatever excuse, risk a
    partial
    victory: Persuading the majority that racial discrimination isn�t
    wrong, while failing to persuade them that it ought to be against >>themselves.

    That�s not a place we want to return to, is it?


    Who the hell is Brett Bellmore and why would any White person care
    what he thinks?

    If they aren't already in Israel, Jews belong in England, France, and
    Germany.

    Pack them all up and get them on the way.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to Clean Country on Sun Jan 26 04:08:25 2025
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    On 1/26/25 3:15 AM, Clean Country wrote:
    On 25 Jan 2025, Loose Cannon <[email protected]> posted some news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 08:19:05 -0800, Michael Ejercito
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Here is an interesting comment from Brett Bellmore.


    https://reason.com/volokh/2025/01/22/trumps-executive-order-banning-aff
    irmative-action-and-dei-preferences/?comments=true#comment-10881183

    A basic problem here is that you can, demonstrably, persuade
    people
    that racial discrimination is a moral wrong. The general public has
    arrived at that position, even if some of our governing elites haven’t >>> yet.

    And you can persuade people that racial discrimination is morally
    right, at least if it’s against OTHER people, as Jim Crow
    demonstrated.

    What has yet to be demonstrated is that you can persuade the
    majority that racial discrimination against themselves is morally
    right.

    Advocates of racial preferences, for whatever excuse, risk a
    partial
    victory: Persuading the majority that racial discrimination isn’t
    wrong, while failing to persuade them that it ought to be against
    themselves.

    That’s not a place we want to return to, is it?


    Who the hell is Brett Bellmore and why would any White person care
    what he thinks?

    If they aren't already in Israel, Jews belong in England, France, and Germany.

    Pack them all up and get them on the way.

    Wow ... Hitler STILL lives ........

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  • From Loose Cannon@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Jan 26 13:27:05 2025
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    XPost: talk.politics.misc

    On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 09:15:08 +0100 (CET), Clean Country
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 25 Jan 2025, Loose Cannon <[email protected]> posted some >news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 08:19:05 -0800, Michael Ejercito >><[email protected]> wrote:

    Here is an interesting comment from Brett Bellmore.


    https://reason.com/volokh/2025/01/22/trumps-executive-order-banning-aff >>>irmative-action-and-dei-preferences/?comments=true#comment-10881183

    A basic problem here is that you can, demonstrably, persuade
    people
    that racial discrimination is a moral wrong. The general public has >>>arrived at that position, even if some of our governing elites haven�t >>>yet.

    And you can persuade people that racial discrimination is morally >>>right, at least if it�s against OTHER people, as Jim Crow
    demonstrated.

    What has yet to be demonstrated is that you can persuade the
    majority that racial discrimination against themselves is morally
    right.

    Advocates of racial preferences, for whatever excuse, risk a
    partial
    victory: Persuading the majority that racial discrimination isn�t
    wrong, while failing to persuade them that it ought to be against >>>themselves.

    That�s not a place we want to return to, is it?


    Who the hell is Brett Bellmore and why would any White person care
    what he thinks?

    If they aren't already in Israel, Jews belong in England, France, and >Germany.

    Pack them all up and get them on the way.

    They belong in Madagasgar, as was suggested back in the 1930s.

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  • From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to Loose Cannon on Sun Jan 26 19:32:53 2025
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    XPost: talk.politics.misc

    Loose Cannon wrote:
    On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 09:15:08 +0100 (CET), Clean Country <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 25 Jan 2025, Loose Cannon <[email protected]> posted some
    news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 08:19:05 -0800, Michael Ejercito
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Here is an interesting comment from Brett Bellmore.


    https://reason.com/volokh/2025/01/22/trumps-executive-order-banning-aff >>>> irmative-action-and-dei-preferences/?comments=true#comment-10881183

    A basic problem here is that you can, demonstrably, persuade
    people
    that racial discrimination is a moral wrong. The general public has
    arrived at that position, even if some of our governing elites haven’t >>>> yet.

    And you can persuade people that racial discrimination is morally
    right, at least if it’s against OTHER people, as Jim Crow
    demonstrated.

    What has yet to be demonstrated is that you can persuade the
    majority that racial discrimination against themselves is morally
    right.

    Advocates of racial preferences, for whatever excuse, risk a
    partial
    victory: Persuading the majority that racial discrimination isn’t
    wrong, while failing to persuade them that it ought to be against
    themselves.

    That’s not a place we want to return to, is it?


    Who the hell is Brett Bellmore and why would any White person care
    what he thinks?

    If they aren't already in Israel, Jews belong in England, France, and
    Germany.

    Pack them all up and get them on the way.

    They belong in Madagasgar, as was suggested back in the 1930s.

    They also belong in the United States of America!


    Michael

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