• Israeli pogroms ravage West Bank towns

    From D. Ray@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 6 00:40:03 2024
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    Israeli settlers carried out brutal attacks against Palestinians and their property, including arson, in several areas of the occupied West Bank on 4 November and the previous night.

    The attacks include attempts at land theft, according to researcher Hassan Breijeh, who said on Monday afternoon that settlers “began plowing dozens
    of dunams of citizens' lands in the areas of Khalayel al-Loz, Khallet al-Qattan, and Khallet al-Nahla, south of Bethlehem, in preparation for
    seizing them.”

    Settlers also attacked the village of Burqa east of Ramallah earlier on 4 November, setting fire to homes and olive trees.

    The settlers stormed the village from three different entrances, WAFA news agency reported, adding that they attempted to raid an elementary school.

    Palestinians in the village of Birin near Hebron were pelted by stones
    earlier on Monday as they were picking olives.

    “The olive harvest season in the West Bank has been the subject of repeated attacks by settlers and Israeli occupation forces, which have reached the
    point of killing, burning, and cutting down olive trees, stealing the
    crops, and preventing farmers from reaching their lands,” WAFA reported.

    In the Umm Nir village, troops forced families to leave the area and barred them from picking olives during the settler attacks.

    The attacks were a continuation of a violent pogrom launched by armed
    settlers in the occupied West Bank on Sunday night.

    More than 20 vehicles in the city of Al-Bireh were torched and destroyed by
    the settlers on the evening of 3 November and overnight.

    Armed settlers opened fire at civil defense crews who were trying to put
    out the fires.

    “The arrival of settlers to residential buildings and burning their surroundings is a dangerous indicator of the possibility of them reaching
    the heart of Al-Bireh or Ramallah and carrying out larger attacks,” a resident told Middle East Eye (MEE). “Settlers don’t enter the Palestinian areas without the cover of the Israeli army,” he added.

    In a statement on 4 November, Hamas called for “escalating the
    confrontation against settlers in the West Bank.”

    Over 750 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli troops and illegal
    settlers in the occupied West Bank since 7 October last year. Over 6,000
    more have been injured.

    In July, the International Court of Justice (ICJ) ruled that Israel’s occupation of the West Bank is “illegal” and ordered the evacuation of all settlements.

    <https://thecradle.co/articles/israeli-pogroms-ravage-west-bank-towns>

    <https://archive.md/Om8gJ>

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  • From Tall Henry@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 6 00:42:13 2024
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    In article <[email protected]>,
    D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:

    [snip]

    Hamas' dream of world conquest and Islamic rule over the
    entire planet, w/o any "Jews or Christian traitors" ******************************************************* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt0Gz7XOuKY https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-765304?dicbo=v2-6NXz5D9

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  • From D. Ray@21:1/5 to Tall Henry on Wed Nov 6 01:42:38 2024
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    Tall Henry <[email protected]> wrote:

    In article <[email protected]>,
    D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:

    [snip]

    Hamas

    But there is no Hamas in West Bank, Jew. Hamas is in Gaza. So who is being killed in West Bank and why?

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to hello there on Wed Nov 6 01:09:47 2024
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    On 11/6/24 12:26 AM, hello there wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:

    Tall Henry <[email protected]> wrote:

    [text removed by silly nazoid re-inserted]

    Hamas' dream of world conquest and Islamic rule over the
    entire planet, w/o any "Jews or Christian traitors" ******************************************************* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt0Gz7XOuKY https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-765304?dicbo=v2-6NXz5D9

    But there is no Hamas in West Bank,

    Yes there is, plus:

    "A September opinion poll, opens new tab showed 89% of Palestinians in the West Bank want Abbas to resign, and that Hamas has more support than Fatah there."

    There's no real difference between the West Bank and Gaza.


    Same ideology, same radicalism, same genocidal
    impulses.

    Now, while I'm gonna support Israel as 'more civil'
    if nothing else, there IS a HUGE problem in this
    whole area. Has been for a long time. PART of it
    is because of Israel's kinda ruthless actions in
    Palestinian areas. No getting around that.

    IS there an equitable fix ? No. Not anytime soon.
    This whole part of the world has been at each
    others throats for thousands of years and that's
    NOT gonna change anytime soon. Grudges from the
    bronze age are STILL ongoing.

    So - think well and PICK THE BEST SIDE.

    However ... note that the West Bank has a LARGE
    population - enough to basically overwhelm Israel
    if it gets into unified motion. Israel needs to
    think about this, and not just in genocidal terms.
    Maybe no 'equitable solution' exists, but some
    halfway fixes ARE possible.

    NO party is "innocent" here.

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  • From hello there@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 6 05:26:51 2024
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    In article <[email protected]>,
    D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:

    Tall Henry <[email protected]> wrote:

    [text removed by silly nazoid re-inserted]

    Hamas' dream of world conquest and Islamic rule over the
    entire planet, w/o any "Jews or Christian traitors" ******************************************************* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt0Gz7XOuKY https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-765304?dicbo=v2-6NXz5D9

    But there is no Hamas in West Bank,

    Yes there is, plus:

    "A September opinion poll, opens new tab showed 89% of Palestinians in the
    West Bank want Abbas to resign, and that Hamas has more support than Fatah there."

    There's no real difference between the West Bank and Gaza.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to hello there on Wed Nov 6 01:53:22 2024
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    On 11/6/24 1:33 AM, hello there wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

    "A September opinion poll, opens new tab showed 89% of Palestinians in the >>> West Bank want Abbas to resign, and that Hamas has more support than Fatah >>> there."

    There's no real difference between the West Bank and Gaza.

    Same ideology, same radicalism, same genocidal
    impulses.

    Now, while I'm gonna support Israel as 'more civil'
    if nothing else, there IS a HUGE problem in this
    whole area. Has been for a long time. PART of it
    is because of Israel's kinda ruthless actions in
    Palestinian areas. No getting around that.

    IS there an equitable fix ? No. Not anytime soon.
    This whole part of the world has been at each
    others throats for thousands of years and that's
    NOT gonna change anytime soon. Grudges from the
    bronze age are STILL ongoing.

    So - think well and PICK THE BEST SIDE.

    However ... note that the West Bank has a LARGE
    population - enough to basically overwhelm Israel
    if it gets into unified motion. Israel needs to
    think about this, and not just in genocidal terms.
    Maybe no 'equitable solution' exists, but some
    halfway fixes ARE possible.

    NO party is "innocent" here.

    Very good observations. Remarks:

    1) The West Bank plus Gaza populations are quite smaller
    than Israel's, not to mention the military strength gap.


    It's not just the "military" side. What would Israel
    have to DO to literally suppress a West Bank attack ?
    It would be HORRIBLE - far worse than Gaza. At some
    point the 'moral high-ground' disappears and heroes
    become villains.


    2) Israel left Gaza, and it was willing to return about
    95% of the West Bank to the Palestinians; alas, Yasser
    Arafat refused.

    But generally you're correct: both sides made mistakes.

    There is NO "perfect" fix here. As said, this shit
    has been going on for thousands of years. Nobody
    forgives anybody.

    The 'west' likes to think in 'western/xian' terms,
    but that's NOT the norm in the world.

    THE question is HOW can we at LEAST keep the locals
    from trying to oppress/genocide each other ? They
    don't have to love each other, just slack back on
    the slaughter impulse. Eventually *something* is
    gonna change to alter the whole equation, but we
    have to GET there without sparking a WW3.

    And no, horsemen and chariots are not gonna battle
    at Armageddon.

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  • From hello there@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Nov 6 06:33:08 2024
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    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

    "A September opinion poll, opens new tab showed 89% of Palestinians in the >> West Bank want Abbas to resign, and that Hamas has more support than Fatah >> there."

    There's no real difference between the West Bank and Gaza.

    Same ideology, same radicalism, same genocidal
    impulses.

    Now, while I'm gonna support Israel as 'more civil'
    if nothing else, there IS a HUGE problem in this
    whole area. Has been for a long time. PART of it
    is because of Israel's kinda ruthless actions in
    Palestinian areas. No getting around that.

    IS there an equitable fix ? No. Not anytime soon.
    This whole part of the world has been at each
    others throats for thousands of years and that's
    NOT gonna change anytime soon. Grudges from the
    bronze age are STILL ongoing.

    So - think well and PICK THE BEST SIDE.

    However ... note that the West Bank has a LARGE
    population - enough to basically overwhelm Israel
    if it gets into unified motion. Israel needs to
    think about this, and not just in genocidal terms.
    Maybe no 'equitable solution' exists, but some
    halfway fixes ARE possible.

    NO party is "innocent" here.

    Very good observations. Remarks:

    1) The West Bank plus Gaza populations are quite smaller
    than Israel's, not to mention the military strength gap.

    2) Israel left Gaza, and it was willing to return about
    95% of the West Bank to the Palestinians; alas, Yasser
    Arafat refused.

    But generally you're correct: both sides made mistakes.

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  • From hello there@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Nov 6 08:31:11 2024
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    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

    [...]

    1) The West Bank plus Gaza populations are quite smaller
    than Israel's, not to mention the military strength gap.

    It's not just the "military" side. What would Israel
    have to DO to literally suppress a West Bank attack ?
    It would be HORRIBLE - far worse than Gaza. At some
    point the 'moral high-ground' disappears and heroes
    become villains.

    Correct. And of course, Hamas knows that, and they intentionally
    sacrifice the Gaza civilian population; same for Hezbollah in
    Lebanon.

    2) Israel left Gaza, and it was willing to return about
    95% of the West Bank to the Palestinians; alas, Yasser
    Arafat refused.

    But generally you're correct: both sides made mistakes.

    There is NO "perfect" fix here. As said, this shit
    has been going on for thousands of years. Nobody
    forgives anybody.

    The 'west' likes to think in 'western/xian' terms,
    but that's NOT the norm in the world.

    THE question is HOW can we at LEAST keep the locals
    from trying to oppress/genocide each other ? They
    don't have to love each other, just slack back on
    the slaughter impulse. Eventually *something* is
    gonna change to alter the whole equation, but we
    have to GET there without sparking a WW3.

    First and foremost, Iran has to be taken out of the picture.
    For many years now, they have supported terrorism and
    extremism, most notably in Gaza, Lebanon, and Yemen; and
    they happily did it from a distance, causing enormous
    bloodshed and suffering, w/o them paying a price. It
    must be made clear to them that, if they continue, they
    WILL pay -- big time.

    Then, both the West and the moderate Arab nations should
    lean very hard on both sides, to reach a reasonable
    agreement.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to hello there on Wed Nov 6 03:43:21 2024
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    On 11/6/24 3:31 AM, hello there wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

    [...]

    1) The West Bank plus Gaza populations are quite smaller
    than Israel's, not to mention the military strength gap.

    It's not just the "military" side. What would Israel
    have to DO to literally suppress a West Bank attack ?
    It would be HORRIBLE - far worse than Gaza. At some
    point the 'moral high-ground' disappears and heroes
    become villains.

    Correct. And of course, Hamas knows that, and they intentionally
    sacrifice the Gaza civilian population; same for Hezbollah in
    Lebanon.

    2) Israel left Gaza, and it was willing to return about
    95% of the West Bank to the Palestinians; alas, Yasser
    Arafat refused.

    But generally you're correct: both sides made mistakes.

    There is NO "perfect" fix here. As said, this shit
    has been going on for thousands of years. Nobody
    forgives anybody.

    The 'west' likes to think in 'western/xian' terms,
    but that's NOT the norm in the world.

    THE question is HOW can we at LEAST keep the locals
    from trying to oppress/genocide each other ? They
    don't have to love each other, just slack back on
    the slaughter impulse. Eventually *something* is
    gonna change to alter the whole equation, but we
    have to GET there without sparking a WW3.

    First and foremost, Iran has to be taken out of the picture.
    For many years now, they have supported terrorism and
    extremism, most notably in Gaza, Lebanon, and Yemen; and
    they happily did it from a distance, causing enormous
    bloodshed and suffering, w/o them paying a price. It
    must be made clear to them that, if they continue, they
    WILL pay -- big time.

    Then, both the West and the moderate Arab nations should
    lean very hard on both sides, to reach a reasonable
    agreement.

    The horrible/cynical Hamas "human shield" strategy
    is very apparent ... but DOES suck-in many Euros.

    Basically, Hamas uses babies like sandbags to
    protect its mil ops.

    Hey, the pop seems to be DOWN with this, put
    their whole fams under the gun just to support
    Hamas. Decisions have consequences.

    However if the West Bank ALSO goes full rad/militant
    it could be just TOO.

    SOMEWHERE there's a balance of horrors.

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  • From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Nov 6 04:18:25 2024
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    [email protected] wrote:
    On 11/6/24 3:31 AM, hello there wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

    [...]

    1) The West Bank plus Gaza populations are quite smaller
    than Israel's, not to mention the military strength gap.

       It's not just the "military" side. What would Israel
       have to DO to literally suppress a West Bank attack ?
       It would be HORRIBLE - far worse than Gaza. At some
       point the 'moral high-ground' disappears and heroes
       become villains.

    Correct. And of course, Hamas knows that, and they intentionally
    sacrifice the Gaza civilian population; same for Hezbollah in
    Lebanon.

    2) Israel left Gaza, and it was willing to return about
    95% of the West Bank to the Palestinians; alas, Yasser
    Arafat refused.

    But generally you're correct: both sides made mistakes.

       There is NO "perfect" fix here. As said, this shit
       has been going on for thousands of years. Nobody
       forgives anybody.

       The 'west' likes to think in 'western/xian' terms,
       but that's NOT the norm in the world.

       THE question is HOW can we at LEAST keep the locals
       from trying to oppress/genocide each other ? They
       don't have to love each other, just slack back on
       the slaughter impulse. Eventually *something* is
       gonna change to alter the whole equation, but we
       have to GET there without sparking a WW3.

    First and foremost, Iran has to be taken out of the picture.
    For many years now, they have supported terrorism and
    extremism, most notably in Gaza, Lebanon, and Yemen; and
    they happily did it from a distance, causing enormous
    bloodshed and suffering, w/o them paying a price. It
    must be made clear to them that, if they continue, they
    WILL pay -- big time.

    Then, both the West and the moderate Arab nations should
    lean very hard on both sides, to reach a reasonable
    agreement.

      The horrible/cynical Hamas "human shield" strategy
      is very apparent ... but DOES suck-in many Euros.

      Basically, Hamas uses babies like sandbags to
      protect its mil ops.

      Hey, the pop seems to be DOWN with this, put
      their whole fams under the gun just to support
      Hamas. Decisions have consequences.

      However if the West Bank ALSO goes full rad/militant
      it could be just TOO.

      SOMEWHERE there's a balance of horrors.
    Well, now they must unconditionally surrender.

    Or else.


    Michael

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  • From D. Ray@21:1/5 to hello there on Wed Nov 6 14:59:59 2024
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    hello there <[email protected]> wrote:

    But there is no Hamas in West Bank,

    Yes there is

    Prove it.

    "A September opinion poll, opens new tab showed 89% of Palestinians in the West Bank want Abbas to resign, and that Hamas has more support than Fatah there."

    Ah, so Hamas is really popular among Palestinian people? I wonder why no
    one told them that Hamas is using them as “human shields”.

    There's no real difference between the West Bank and Gaza.

    Of course, because you killing Palestinians for being Palestinians, not
    because of Hamas. Hamas is just resistance to you. And since there is no
    Hamas in West Bank, Jews get to kill Palestinians there with impunity.

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  • From hello there@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 6 15:27:41 2024
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    In article <[email protected]>,
    D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:

    hello there <[email protected]> wrote:

    But there is no Hamas in West Bank,

    Yes there is

    Prove it.

    "Hamas has made great use of guerrilla tactics in the Gaza Strip and to a lesser degree the West Bank."

    etc. etc. etc.

    Learn to read.

    "A September opinion poll, opens new tab showed 89% of Palestinians in the >> West Bank want Abbas to resign, and that Hamas has more support than Fatah >> there."

    Ah, so Hamas is really popular among Palestinian people? I wonder why no
    one told them that Hamas is using them as "human shields".

    It's actually more popular now in the West Bank than in Gaza, for
    this reason.

    There's no real difference between the West Bank and Gaza.

    Of course, because you killing Palestinians for being Palestinians,

    Haven't killed anyone recently.

    Look what we have here, folks. A little nazoid pig, who praises
    Hitler and Nazi Germany, and refers to Muslims as "monkeys",
    pretends to care about dead Palestinians.

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  • From D. Ray@21:1/5 to hello there on Wed Nov 6 16:34:52 2024
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    hello there <[email protected]> wrote:

    In article <[email protected]>,
    D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:

    hello there <[email protected]> wrote:

    But there is no Hamas in West Bank,

    Yes there is

    Prove it.

    "Hamas has made great use of guerrilla tactics in the Gaza Strip and to a lesser degree the West Bank."

    No source? That’s sad.

    "A September opinion poll, opens new tab showed 89% of Palestinians in the >>> West Bank want Abbas to resign, and that Hamas has more support than Fatah >>> there."

    Ah, so Hamas is really popular among Palestinian people? I wonder why no
    one told them that Hamas is using them as "human shields".

    It's actually more popular now in the West Bank than in Gaza, for
    this reason.

    No source?

    There's no real difference between the West Bank and Gaza.

    Of course, because you killing Palestinians for being Palestinians,

    Haven't killed anyone recently.

    How recent is “recently”? Days, hours?

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  • From Citizen Winston Smith@21:1/5 to D. Ray on Wed Nov 6 09:21:41 2024
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    On 11/6/2024 7:59 AM, D. Ray wrote:
    Prove it.
    You are a rampant public death threat maker and Suckramento dwarf named Jonathan D. Ball.

    FOAD, you relentless traitor to America~!

    Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
    Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/D.Ray/Henry Bodkin and a dozen other forged socks
    of living and dead posters wrote:

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    No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
    thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
    is an important step to getting there.

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
    18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the Presidency
    U.S. Code
    Notes
    prev | next
    (a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
    or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
    letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
    threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
    the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
    President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
    of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
    knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
    President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
    order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
    shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
    or both.
    (b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
    candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
    respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
    held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
    accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
    phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
    order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
    United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
    (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
    Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L. 97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

    9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
    Service Protectees
    The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
    supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
    caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
    the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
    U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
    United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
    involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
    settlement involving a § 871 charge.


    https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

    PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
    for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
    Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
    counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
    and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

    The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
    living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
    to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
    November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
    statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
    U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
    crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
    series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

    Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
    up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
    of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
    five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release.

    A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
    criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
    presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
    guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

    The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
    case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
    handling the prosecution.


    Those can be reported here:

    https://tips.fbi.gov/home

    https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

    https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

    https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


    Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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  • From Citizen Winston Smith@21:1/5 to D. Ray on Wed Nov 6 09:38:17 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, alt.military
    XPost: alt.politics

    On 11/6/2024 9:34 AM, D. Ray wrote:
    How recent is “recently”? Days, hours?
    FOAD, you traitor to America~!

    Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
    Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/D.Ray/Henry Bodkin and a dozen other forged socks
    of living and dead posters wrote:

    Multiple death threats against Trump: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    highwinds-media.com!fx10.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
    From: Governor Swill <[email protected]>
    Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.elections
    Subject: Re: Triumphant Trump Photo After Assassination Attempt
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    Oh poor me I got shot at ...

    Swill ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


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    From: Governor Swill <[email protected]>
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    Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

    Swill

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    From: J Carlson <[email protected]>
    Newsgroups: alt.politics.immigration,alt.politics.nationalism.white,talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    Subject: Re: AP Lies by Ommission About Identity of Invaders Charged with
    Rape, Murder of 12-Year-Old
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    No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
    thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
    is an important step to getting there.

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
    18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the Presidency
    U.S. Code
    Notes
    prev | next
    (a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
    or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
    letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
    threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
    the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
    President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
    of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
    knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
    President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
    order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
    shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
    or both.
    (b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
    candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
    respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
    held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
    accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
    phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
    order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
    United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
    (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
    Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L. 97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

    9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
    Service Protectees
    The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
    supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
    caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
    the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
    U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
    United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
    involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
    settlement involving a § 871 charge.


    https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

    PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
    for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
    Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
    counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
    and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

    The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
    living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
    to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
    November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
    statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
    U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
    crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
    series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

    Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
    up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
    of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
    five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release.

    A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
    criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
    presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
    guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

    The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
    case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
    handling the prosecution.


    Those can be reported here:

    https://tips.fbi.gov/home

    https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

    https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

    https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


    Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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  • From hello there@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 6 17:49:29 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, alt.military
    XPost: alt.politics

    In article <[email protected]>,
    D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:

    "Hamas has made great use of guerrilla tactics in the Gaza Strip and to a
    lesser degree the West Bank."

    No source? That's sad.

    Learn to use a search engine. "Master Race", right?

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  • From Loose Cannon@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Nov 6 16:19:11 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, alt.military
    XPost: alt.politics

    On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 04:18:25 -0800, Michael Ejercito
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    [email protected] wrote:
    On 11/6/24 3:31 AM, hello there wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

    [...]

    1) The West Bank plus Gaza populations are quite smaller
    than Israel's, not to mention the military strength gap.

    �� It's not just the "military" side. What would Israel
    �� have to DO to literally suppress a West Bank attack ?
    �� It would be HORRIBLE - far worse than Gaza. At some
    �� point the 'moral high-ground' disappears and heroes
    �� become villains.

    Correct. And of course, Hamas knows that, and they intentionally
    sacrifice the Gaza civilian population; same for Hezbollah in
    Lebanon.

    2) Israel left Gaza, and it was willing to return about
    95% of the West Bank to the Palestinians; alas, Yasser
    Arafat refused.

    But generally you're correct: both sides made mistakes.

    �� There is NO "perfect" fix here. As said, this shit
    �� has been going on for thousands of years. Nobody
    �� forgives anybody.

    �� The 'west' likes to think in 'western/xian' terms,
    �� but that's NOT the norm in the world.

    �� THE question is HOW can we at LEAST keep the locals
    �� from trying to oppress/genocide each other ? They
    �� don't have to love each other, just slack back on
    �� the slaughter impulse. Eventually *something* is
    �� gonna change to alter the whole equation, but we
    �� have to GET there without sparking a WW3.

    First and foremost, Iran has to be taken out of the picture.
    For many years now, they have supported terrorism and
    extremism, most notably in Gaza, Lebanon, and Yemen; and
    they happily did it from a distance, causing enormous
    bloodshed and suffering, w/o them paying a price. It
    must be made clear to them that, if they continue, they
    WILL pay -- big time.

    Then, both the West and the moderate Arab nations should
    lean very hard on both sides, to reach a reasonable
    agreement.

    � The horrible/cynical Hamas "human shield" strategy
    � is very apparent ... but DOES suck-in many Euros.

    � Basically, Hamas uses babies like sandbags to
    � protect its mil ops.

    � Hey, the pop seems to be DOWN with this, put
    � their whole fams under the gun just to support
    � Hamas. Decisions have consequences.

    � However if the West Bank ALSO goes full rad/militant
    � it could be just TOO.

    � SOMEWHERE there's a balance of horrors.
    Well, now they must unconditionally surrender.

    Or else.

    Or else what, gook? Palestinians aren't a cowardly lot like the jews
    (Poland, Russia during WWII) or you flips (Japan also WWII). They will
    keep fighting until every last jew is out of Palestine





    Michael

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  • From D. Ray@21:1/5 to hello there on Wed Nov 6 22:31:56 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, alt.military
    XPost: alt.politics

    hello there <[email protected]> wrote:

    In article <[email protected]>,
    D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:

    "Hamas has made great use of guerrilla tactics in the Gaza Strip and to a >>> lesser degree the West Bank."

    No source? That's sad.

    Learn to use a search engine. "Master Race", right?

    Learn to prove your lies. “God’s chosen gift people”, right?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Lil dwarf Rudey@21:1/5 to D. Ray on Wed Nov 6 17:20:02 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, alt.military
    XPost: alt.politics

    D. Ray wrote:
    How recent is “recently”? Days, hours?

    Do you finally get arrested for your death threats on Trump, Vance, and
    Musk, Rudey?

    Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
    Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/D.Ray/Henry Bodkin and a dozen other forged socks
    of living and dead posters wrote:

    Multiple death threats against Trump: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!border-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!border-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news-out.netnews.com!netnews.com!s1-4.netnews.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.
    highwinds-media.com!fx10.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
    From: Governor Swill <[email protected]>
    Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.elections
    Subject: Re: Triumphant Trump Photo After Assassination Attempt
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    Oh poor me I got shot at ...

    Swill ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


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    From: Governor Swill <[email protected]>
    Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.elections
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    Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

    Swill

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    From: J Carlson <[email protected]>
    Newsgroups: alt.politics.immigration,alt.politics.nationalism.white,talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    Subject: Re: AP Lies by Ommission About Identity of Invaders Charged with
    Rape, Murder of 12-Year-Old
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    No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
    thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
    is an important step to getting there.

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
    18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the Presidency
    U.S. Code
    Notes
    prev | next
    (a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
    or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
    letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
    threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
    the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
    President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
    of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
    knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
    President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
    order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
    shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
    or both.
    (b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
    candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
    respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
    held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
    accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
    phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
    order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
    United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
    (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
    Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L. 97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

    9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
    Service Protectees
    The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
    supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
    caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
    the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
    U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
    United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
    involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
    settlement involving a § 871 charge.


    https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

    PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
    for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
    Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
    counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
    and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

    The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
    living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
    to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
    November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
    statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
    U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
    crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
    series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

    Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
    up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
    of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
    five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release.

    A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
    criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
    presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
    guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

    The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
    case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
    handling the prosecution.


    Those can be reported here:

    https://tips.fbi.gov/home

    https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

    https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

    https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


    Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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  • From Lil dwarf Rudey@21:1/5 to D. Ray on Wed Nov 6 17:22:33 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, alt.military
    XPost: alt.politics

    D. Ray wrote:
    Hamas is just resistance to you.
    Do you finally get arrested for your death threats on Trump, Vance, and
    Musk, Rudey?

    Is it time or we will see your sorry ass until January 2oth of '25?

    Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
    Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/D.Ray/Henry Bodkin and a dozen other forged socks
    of living and dead posters wrote:

    Multiple death threats against Trump: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    From: Governor Swill <[email protected]>
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    Oh poor me I got shot at ...

    Swill ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


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    Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

    Swill

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    From: J Carlson <[email protected]>
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    Subject: Re: AP Lies by Ommission About Identity of Invaders Charged with
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    No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
    thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
    is an important step to getting there.

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    That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
    18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the Presidency
    U.S. Code
    Notes
    prev | next
    (a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
    or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
    letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
    threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
    the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
    President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
    of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
    knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
    President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
    order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
    shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
    or both.
    (b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
    candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
    respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
    held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
    accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
    phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
    order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
    United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
    (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
    Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L. 97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

    9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
    Service Protectees
    The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
    supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
    caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
    the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
    U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
    United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
    involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
    settlement involving a § 871 charge.


    https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

    PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
    for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
    Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
    counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
    and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

    The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
    living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
    to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
    November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
    statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
    U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
    crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
    series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

    Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
    up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
    of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
    five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release.

    A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
    criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
    presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
    guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

    The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
    case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
    handling the prosecution.


    Those can be reported here:

    https://tips.fbi.gov/home

    https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

    https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

    https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


    Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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