• Re: Police say tourist filmed allegedly carving ?Ivan+Hayley? on Rome?s

    From wankers@21:1/5 to Schadenfreude on Sat Jul 1 08:37:15 2023
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    Klaus Schadenfreude <[email protected]> wrote in news:sj5898$t7o$[email protected]:

    Give him a chopadictomy. Make his girlfriend eat it.

    CNN

    He caused shockwaves around the world when he was filmed apparently
    carving his name into a wall of Rome�s 2,000-year-old Colosseum � and
    grinning when he realized he was caught on camera.

    Now, he�s likely to be in shock himself.

    The visitor who this week allegedly scratched �Ivan+Hayley 23� on a brick
    wall of one of the world�s most precious buildings, has been identified, according to Italy�s culture minister.

    And after a spate of Americans trashing Italian heritage sites last year,
    some readers will be relieved to know that this time, the suspect isn�t
    from the US � he�s from the UK.

    Culture Minister Gennaro Sangiuliano tweeted Thursday that the
    Carabinieri, a military police force, had �identified the person presumed
    to be responsible for the uncivilized and absurd act committed at the Colosseum.�

    �An act that offended everyone across the globe who appreciate the value
    of archaeology, of monuments and of history,� he added.

    His tweet confirmed that �Ivan and Hayley� are thought to be the names of
    the tourist and his girlfriend, who was filmed watching on as he carved
    their names.

    In a second tweet, Sangiuliano suggested that the case will go to trial.

    Threat of prison
    �I hope that justice will take its course, applying the law rigorously,�
    he wrote.

    �If it comes to trial, the Ministry of Culture will appear as a
    plaintiff.�


    If convicted of a crime, the man could face a fine of at least 15,000
    euros ($16,360) or up to five years in prison, according to Italian news
    agency Ansa.

    The Piazza Venezia branch of the Carabinieri released a statement to CNN confirming that the suspect had been traced, and the couple are believed
    to be from the UK.

    Police �identified the main suspect through traditional investigations and photographic comparison,� they wrote.

    �The carabinieri have confirmed that that it is a couple, a man and a
    woman, resident in England.

    �It should be noted that proceedings are at the preliminary investigation
    stage so the suspect must be considered innocent until any final [court] ruling.�

    Sangiuliano added in a statement that a government bill that would �make
    those who outrage our heritage answer for it personally� is currently
    passing through parliament. The bill would hold vandals responsible
    �including in terms of assets,� he said.

    �People who cause damage must pay.�

    Tourists vandalizing the Colosseum is sadly nothing new. In 2020, an Irish tourist was reported to the police for allegedly carving his initials into
    a wall.

    Last August, an American couple were caught carving their initials into
    the Arch of Augustus, a 2,000-year-old monument beside the Colosseum.

    CNN�s Sharon Braithwaite contributed to this story.

    https://www.cnn.com/travel/rome-colosseum-ivan-hayley-graffiti- identified/index.html

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to wankers on Sat Jul 1 11:34:20 2023
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    On 01/07/2023 07:37 am, wankers wrote:

    Klaus Schadenfreude <[email protected]> wrote:

    CNN

    He caused shockwaves around the world when he was filmed apparently
    carving his name into a wall of Rome’s 2,000-year-old Colosseum – and grinning when he realized he was caught on camera.

    Now, he’s likely to be in shock himself.

    The visitor who this week allegedly scratched “Ivan+Hayley 23” on a brick wall of one of the world’s most precious buildings, has been identified, according to Italy’s culture minister.

    And after a spate of Americans trashing Italian heritage sites last year, some readers will be relieved to know that this time, the suspect isn’t from the US – he’s from the UK.

    My understanding, from news reports, is that "Ivan" is far from being
    "from the UK" in anything except a recent travels sense. He has been
    described, indeed, as *Bulgarian*.

    The name carved into the Roman monument rather supports that. "Ivan",
    like "Boris", is not unknown as a given name in the English-speaking
    world, but in eastern Europe, is a little more routine.

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  • From Remi@21:1/5 to JNugent on Sat Jul 1 19:13:25 2023
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    JNugent <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On 01/07/2023 07:37 am, wankers wrote:

    Klaus Schadenfreude <[email protected]> wrote:

    CNN

    He caused shockwaves around the world when he was filmed apparently
    carving his name into a wall of Rome’s 2,000-year-old Colosseum –
    and grinning when he realized he was caught on camera.

    Now, he’s likely to be in shock himself.

    The visitor who this week allegedly scratched “Ivan+Hayley 23” on
    a brick wall of one of the world’s most precious buildings, has
    been identified, according to Italy’s culture minister.

    And after a spate of Americans trashing Italian heritage sites last
    year, some readers will be relieved to know that this time, the
    suspect isn’t from the US – he’s from the UK.

    My understanding, from news reports, is that "Ivan" is far from being
    "from the UK" in anything except a recent travels sense. He has been described, indeed, as *Bulgarian*.

    The name carved into the Roman monument rather supports that. "Ivan",
    like "Boris", is not unknown as a given name in the English-speaking
    world, but in eastern Europe, is a little more routine.

    Regardless of where he is from, he's a vandal and should spend a
    year cleaning public urinals in Italy as penance. He can sleep in jail at night.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Remi on Sun Jul 2 01:17:06 2023
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    On 01/07/2023 08:13 pm, Remi wrote:

    JNugent <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 01/07/2023 07:37 am, wankers wrote:
    Klaus Schadenfreude <[email protected]> wrote:

    CNN

    He caused shockwaves around the world when he was filmed apparently
    carving his name into a wall of Rome’s 2,000-year-old Colosseum –
    and grinning when he realized he was caught on camera.
    Now, he’s likely to be in shock himself.
    The visitor who this week allegedly scratched “Ivan+Hayley 23” on
    a brick wall of one of the world’s most precious buildings, has
    been identified, according to Italy’s culture minister.
    And after a spate of Americans trashing Italian heritage sites last
    year, some readers will be relieved to know that this time, the
    suspect isn’t from the US – he’s from the UK.

    My understanding, from news reports, is that "Ivan" is far from being
    "from the UK" in anything except a recent travels sense. He has been
    described, indeed, as *Bulgarian*.

    The name carved into the Roman monument rather supports that. "Ivan",
    like "Boris", is not unknown as a given name in the English-speaking
    world, but in eastern Europe, is a little more routine.

    Regardless of where he is from, he's a vandal and should spend a
    year cleaning public urinals in Italy as penance. He can sleep in jail at night.

    Only a year?

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  • From Ottavio Caruso@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 17 11:13:32 2023
    Am 02/07/2023 um 00:17 schrieb JNugent:
    On 01/07/2023 08:13 pm, Remi wrote:

    JNugent <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 01/07/2023 07:37 am, wankers wrote:
    Klaus  Schadenfreude <[email protected]> wrote:

    CNN

    He caused shockwaves around the world when he was filmed apparently
    carving his name into a wall of Rome’s 2,000-year-old Colosseum –
    and grinning when he realized he was caught on camera.
    Now, he’s likely to be in shock himself.
    The visitor who this week allegedly scratched “Ivan+Hayley 23” on
    a brick wall of one of the world’s most precious buildings, has >>>> been identified, according to Italy’s culture minister.
    And after a spate of Americans trashing Italian heritage sites last
    year, some readers will be relieved to know that this time, the
    suspect isn’t from the US – he’s from the UK.

    My understanding, from news reports, is that "Ivan" is far from being
    "from the UK" in anything except a recent travels sense. He has been
    described, indeed, as *Bulgarian*.

    The name carved into the Roman monument rather supports that. "Ivan",
    like "Boris", is not unknown as a given name in the English-speaking
    world, but in eastern Europe, is a little more routine.

    Regardless of where he is from, he's a vandal and should spend a
    year cleaning public urinals in Italy as penance.  He can sleep in
    jail at
    night.

    Only a year?

    Apparently a 17yo Swiss national has done the same recently.

    --
    Ottavio Caruso

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