• Australia to ban guns again and recreational vaping in e-cigarette crac

    From Ratto@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 2 10:10:35 2023
    XPost: aus.politics, talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    Australia said on Tuesday it will ban recreational vaping and tighten
    other aspects of e-cigarette laws in the biggest crackdown on the tobacco industry in more than a decade to try to stop an alarming rise in teenage vaping.

    The government aims to ban all disposable vapes, which often comes in
    fruity flavors, ban the import of non-prescription vapes and limit
    nicotine levels, aiming for the sale of vapes to be confined to helping
    smokers quit.

    �Just like they did with smoking, Big Tobacco has taken another addictive product, wrapped it in shiny packaging and added flavors to create a new generation of nicotine addicts,� Health Minister Mark Butler said in a
    speech at the National Press Club.

    Vaping, widely seen as a safer alternative to smoking cigarettes and
    useful for helping smokers quit, involves heating a liquid that contains nicotine in what is called an e-cigarette and turning it into a vapor that users inhale.

    But studies have shown the potential of long-term harm from the addictive e-cigarettes.

    Under the new rules, vapes will be sold only in pharmacies and require �pharmaceutical-type� packaging. Disposable vapes popular with young
    people will also be banned.

    Though a prescription is needed to buy nicotine vapes in Australia, lax
    border enforcement and a thriving illegal market mean they are readily available in convenience stores and other outlets.

    Major vape manufacturer Philip Morris welcomed the crackdown on such
    shops.

    �Nicotine vaping products sold in corner stores have always been illegal,�
    a spokesperson for the company said.

    �We have been urging enforcement against these illegal products for
    several years and hope this will now happen.�

    Butler said vaping had become a recreational product in Australia, mostly
    sold to teenagers and young people, who are three times as likely to take
    up smoking.

    Doctors backed the vaping crackdown but urged the government to do more to limit the number of young people taking it up.

    �Nicotine vaping products are being sold featuring colourful flavours and
    we have even seen products featuring the same type of imagery as
    children�s breakfast cereal including cartoon characters,� said Nicole
    Higgins, president of the Royal Australian College of General
    Practitioners.

    About 22% of Australians aged 18-24 have used an e-cigarette or vaping
    device at least once, data last year showed.

    The federal budget, due out next week, will include $155 million for
    measures to protect against the harm caused by tobacco and vaping.

    Australia has one of the toughest anti-smoking laws in the world.

    In 2012, it became the first country to force cigarette producers to
    abandon distinct, colorful branding and sell their products in uniformly
    drab packets.

    Tobacco firms were quick to switch to e-cigarettes that offer different
    flavors and created designs targeting a new generation of users.

    Butler said the government had no plan to follow neighboring New Zealand
    in banning cigarette sales for future generations but said the tax on
    tobacco would be raised by 5% a year over the next three years in a bid to
    curb sales.

    Some countries have tried to restrict vaping and some see it as a good way
    to get smokers to kick the habit.

    Britain said in April up to one million smokers would be encouraged to
    swap cigarettes for vapes, in what was a world first, offering financial incentives for pregnant women and providing e-cigarette starter kits to
    help.

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/australia-ban-recreational-vaping-e- cigarette-crackdown-rcna82379>

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  • From !Jones@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 2 07:16:15 2023
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    The article never even mentions guns.

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  • From Rod Speed@21:1/5 to Ratto on Wed May 3 02:37:29 2023
    XPost: aus.politics, talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    Ratto <[email protected]> wrote

    Australia said on Tuesday

    Nope, the federal govt did.

    it will ban recreational vaping and tighten
    other aspects of e-cigarette laws in the biggest crackdown on the tobacco industry in more than a decade to try to stop an alarming rise in teenage vaping.

    The government aims to ban all disposable vapes,

    Wrong. They are still available on prescriiption.

    which often comes in
    fruity flavors, ban the import of non-prescription vapes and limit
    nicotine levels, aiming for the sale of vapes to be confined to helping smokers quit.

    “Just like they did with smoking, Big Tobacco has taken another addictive product, wrapped it in shiny packaging and added flavors to create a new generation of nicotine addicts,” Health Minister Mark Butler said in a speech at the National Press Club.

    Vaping, widely seen as a safer alternative to smoking cigarettes and
    useful for helping smokers quit, involves heating a liquid that contains nicotine in what is called an e-cigarette and turning it into a vapor
    that
    users inhale.

    But studies have shown the potential of long-term harm from the addictive e-cigarettes.

    Under the new rules, vapes will be sold only in pharmacies and require “pharmaceutical-type” packaging. Disposable vapes popular with young people will also be banned.

    Though a prescription is needed to buy nicotine vapes in Australia, lax border enforcement and a thriving illegal market mean they are readily available in convenience stores and other outlets.

    Major vape manufacturer Philip Morris welcomed the crackdown on such
    shops.

    “Nicotine vaping products sold in corner stores have always been illegal,”
    a spokesperson for the company said.

    “We have been urging enforcement against these illegal products for
    several years and hope this will now happen.”

    Butler said vaping had become a recreational product in Australia, mostly sold to teenagers and young people, who are three times as likely to take
    up smoking.

    Doctors backed the vaping crackdown but urged the government to do more
    to
    limit the number of young people taking it up.

    “Nicotine vaping products are being sold featuring colourful flavours and we have even seen products featuring the same type of imagery as
    children’s breakfast cereal including cartoon characters,” said Nicole Higgins, president of the Royal Australian College of General
    Practitioners.

    About 22% of Australians aged 18-24 have used an e-cigarette or vaping
    device at least once, data last year showed.

    The federal budget, due out next week, will include $155 million for
    measures to protect against the harm caused by tobacco and vaping.

    Australia has one of the toughest anti-smoking laws in the world.

    In 2012, it became the first country to force cigarette producers to
    abandon distinct, colorful branding and sell their products in uniformly
    drab packets.

    Tobacco firms were quick to switch to e-cigarettes that offer different flavors and created designs targeting a new generation of users.

    Butler said the government had no plan to follow neighboring New Zealand
    in banning cigarette sales for future generations but said the tax on
    tobacco would be raised by 5% a year over the next three years in a bid
    to
    curb sales.

    Some countries have tried to restrict vaping and some see it as a good
    way
    to get smokers to kick the habit.

    Britain said in April up to one million smokers would be encouraged to
    swap cigarettes for vapes, in what was a world first, offering financial incentives for pregnant women and providing e-cigarette starter kits to
    help.

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/australia-ban-recreational-vaping-e- cigarette-crackdown-rcna82379>

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  • From Peter Jason@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 3 09:10:00 2023
    XPost: aus.politics, talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    On Tue, 2 May 2023 10:10:35 -0000 (UTC), Ratto <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Australia said on Tuesday it will ban recreational vaping and tighten
    other aspects of e-cigarette laws in the biggest crackdown on the tobacco >industry in more than a decade to try to stop an alarming rise in teenage >vaping.

    Why not just tax them aggressively, to help take the tax load off we
    suffering taxpayers?

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  • From Rod Speed@21:1/5 to Peter Jason on Wed May 3 12:28:41 2023
    XPost: aus.politics, talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    On Wed, 03 May 2023 09:10:00 +1000, Peter Jason <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Tue, 2 May 2023 10:10:35 -0000 (UTC), Ratto <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Australia said on Tuesday it will ban recreational vaping and tighten
    other aspects of e-cigarette laws in the biggest crackdown on the
    tobacco
    industry in more than a decade to try to stop an alarming rise in
    teenage
    vaping.

    Why not just tax them aggressively, to help take the tax load off we suffering taxpayers?

    That clearly doesnt work with cigarettes.

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  • From Peter Jason@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed May 3 15:43:10 2023
    XPost: aus.politics, talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    On Wed, 03 May 2023 12:28:41 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Wed, 03 May 2023 09:10:00 +1000, Peter Jason <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Tue, 2 May 2023 10:10:35 -0000 (UTC), Ratto <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Australia said on Tuesday it will ban recreational vaping and tighten
    other aspects of e-cigarette laws in the biggest crackdown on the
    tobacco
    industry in more than a decade to try to stop an alarming rise in
    teenage
    vaping.

    Why not just tax them aggressively, to help take the tax load off we
    suffering taxpayers?

    That clearly doesnt work with cigarettes.

    It does partly, anyway. And generates heaps of dough.

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  • From Rod Speed@21:1/5 to Peter Jason on Wed May 3 15:56:26 2023
    XPost: aus.politics, talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    Peter Jason <[email protected]> wrote
    Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
    Peter Jason <[email protected]> wrote
    Ratto <[email protected]> wrote

    Australia said on Tuesday it will ban recreational vaping and tighten
    other aspects of e-cigarette laws in the biggest crackdown on the
    tobacco
    industry in more than a decade to try to stop an alarming rise in
    teenage
    vaping.

    Why not just tax them aggressively, to help take the tax load off we
    suffering taxpayers?

    That clearly doesnt work with cigarettes.

    It does partly, anyway.

    Bullshit it does. All it actually does is to fuck
    the finances of the pathetic nicotine addicts.

    And generates heaps of dough.

    Bullshit it does.

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