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The Goibniu (or Govannon) popthrough was applied
at 0703 UTC December 4, 2024.

It is the only Celtic 14-years-low-years popthrough.

It does not affect just pagans---it affects some by belief, but
also all those now in his original region and all those
descended from at least one who was in his original
region when his original working became fully on.

--
David Dalton [email protected] https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill; And the
hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand” (Ferron)

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On Dec 4, 2024, David Dalton wrote
(in article<[email protected]>):

The Goibniu (or Govannon) popthrough was applied
at 0703 UTC December 4, 2024.

It is the only Celtic 14-years-low-years popthrough.

It does not affect just pagans---it affects some by belief, but
also all those now in his original region and all those
descended from at least one who was in his original
region when his original working became fully on.

It did not occur at the time I posted above.

However it has now occurred at 0315 UTC December 5, 2024.

Regarding its coverage of e.g. Jews, Christians, and Muslims,
if it is a non-belief popthrough (just original region or descent)
it won’t override an earlier (in the sequence) popthrough if
there is a conflict, including Jacob, Moses, and Mohammed,
and a later belief popthrough in the sequence (e.g. Jesus
for Christians and Muslims and Daniel and David for Jews)
will override it if there is a conflict (but Jesus wouldn’t
override Jacob and Moses for Old Testament Christians
and Jacob and Moses and Mohammed for Muslims).

Since I am only considering popthroughs of the last
10,000 years, Goibniu must have existed in human
form within that time period.

There is more background on my Salmon on the Thorns
web page, though it is not quite up to date, and more
on recent and ongoing progress on alt.religion.druid .

--
David Dalton [email protected] https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill; And the
hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand” (Ferron)

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On Dec 4, 2024, David Dalton wrote
(in article<[email protected]>):

On Dec 4, 2024, David Dalton wrote
(in article<[email protected]>):

The Goibniu (or Govannon) popthrough was applied
at 0703 UTC December 4, 2024.

It is the only Celtic 14-years-low-years popthrough.

It does not affect just pagans---it affects some by belief, but
also all those now in his original region and all those
descended from at least one who was in his original
region when his original working became fully on.

It did not occur at the time I posted above.

However it has now occurred at 0315 UTC December 5, 2024.

That wasn’t true.

December 6, 2024. To get UTC add 3.5 hours.
(St. Nicholas Day/National Day of Remembrance and Action
on Violence Against Women)

Here is a summary of the major popthroughs that have
been applied so far:

The recent 52 from 8:32 --> 9:33 p.m.
53 (Jacob) 9:46 p.m.
54 (Jesus) 9:59 p.m.
55 (Moses) 10:11 p.m.
56 (Mohammed) 10:20 p.m.
57 (Rama) 10:28 p.m.
58 (Krishna) 10:36 p.m.
59 (humpback of about 9000 years ago) 10:45 p.m.
72 (Buddha) 11:46 p.m.

December 7, 2024

Lao Tzu 12:54 a.m.
original Sleeping Beauty hero 1:40 a.m.
Osiris 1:54 a.m.
Dionysus 2:23 a.m.
Hermes 2:27 a.m.
Prometheus (about 9300 years ago) 2:38 a.m.
Adonis 2:42 a.m.
Zoroaster 2:44 a.m.
Apollo (about 8200 years ago) 2:47 a.m.
Goibniu (or Govannon) 2:53 a.m.

Of the recent 52, the one whose hcp sub covered the most
someones was Tsangyang Gyatso (but I highly doubt that
he died at age 23), and the one with the largest original
region was a minke whale.

For atheists, the religious big names did not override
the recent 52 if there was a conflict. (And my post-popthroughs
updates will override any popthrough if there is a conflict.)

For more background see my Salmon on the Thorns web page.
For recent and ongoing progress see alt.religion.druid .

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David Dalton [email protected] https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “And now the angry morning; Gives the early signs of warning; You must
face alone the plans you make; Decisions they will try to break" (S. McL.)

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On Dec 7, 2024, David Dalton wrote
(in article<[email protected]>):

On Dec 4, 2024, David Dalton wrote
(in article<[email protected]>):

On Dec 4, 2024, David Dalton wrote
(in article<[email protected]>)
:

The Goibniu (or Govannon) popthrough was applied
at 0703 UTC December 4, 2024.

It is the only Celtic 14-years-low-years popthrough.

It does not affect just pagans---it affects some by belief, but
also all those now in his original region and all those
descended from at least one who was in his original
region when his original working became fully on.

It did not occur at the time I posted above.

However it has now occurred at 0315 UTC December 5, 2024.

That wasn’t true.

December 6, 2024. To get UTC add 3.5 hours.
(St. Nicholas Day/National Day of Remembrance and Action
on Violence Against Women)

Here is a summary of the major popthroughs that have
been applied so far:

The recent 52 from 8:32 --> 9:33 p.m.
53 (Jacob) 9:46 p.m.
54 (Jesus) 9:59 p.m.
55 (Moses) 10:11 p.m.
56 (Mohammed) 10:20 p.m.
57 (Rama) 10:28 p.m.
58 (Krishna) 10:36 p.m.
59 (humpback of about 9000 years ago) 10:45 p.m.
72 (Buddha) 11:46 p.m.

December 7, 2024

Lao Tzu 12:54 a.m.
original Sleeping Beauty hero 1:40 a.m.
Osiris 1:54 a.m.
Dionysus 2:23 a.m.
Hermes 2:27 a.m.
Prometheus (about 9300 years ago) 2:38 a.m.
Adonis 2:42 a.m.
Zoroaster 2:44 a.m.
Apollo (about 8200 years ago) 2:47 a.m.
Goibniu (or Govannon) 2:53 a.m.

Here are a few more:

Lucifer 3:15 a.m.
Loki 3:30 a.m.
Quetzalcoatl 3:36 a.m.
Havamal composer 3:48 a.m.
Lleu/Lugh/Lugus 3:51 a.m.
Heracles 4:05 a.m.
Gwydion (Odin?) 4:15 a.m.
Fintan 4:41 a.m.
Glooskap 4:52 a.m.
Amergin 4:57 a.m.
Haida Raven and the First Men figure 4:59 a.m.
Gwion Bach (Taliesin) 5:09 a.m.

There are many yet to come, and of course I don’t yet
know all of their names (1768, including many cetaceans,
in the last 10,000 years).

That’s all I will post for a few hours.

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David Dalton [email protected] https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “And now the angry morning; Gives the early signs of warning; You must
face alone the plans you make; Decisions they will try to break" (S. McL.)

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