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    From Vedrin Jeliazkov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 2 01:39:24 2023
    https://bnr.bg/sofia/post/101741290

    https://bnr.bg/hristobotev/post/101779449

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  • From Vedrin Jeliazkov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 2 02:29:53 2023
    Martin Ivanov, Ralitsa Simeonova-Ganeva, Kaloyan Ganev, Paths of Development: Compilation of a Component- based CPI for Bulgaria and Real Prices of Key Commodities for the Period 1750-2020, Scientific conference “Dilemmas of Development” of the
    Centre for Economic History Research (CEHR), Evlogiy and Hristo Georgievi Foundation and the Faculty of History, University of Veliko Turnovo, 23-24 September 2022, Karlovo, Bulgaria

    https://web.uni-plovdiv.net/vedrin/papers/Ivanov_et_al_2022a.pdf

    Martin Ivanov, Ralitsa Simeonova-Ganeva, Kaloyan Ganev, Long-term Consumer Price Dynamics in Bulgaria, 1750-2020, Proceedings of the Centre for Economic History Research, Volume VII At: CEHR, November 2022, Varna, Bulgaria

    https://web.uni-plovdiv.net/vedrin/papers/Ivanov_et_al_2022b.pdf

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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 2 07:58:14 2023
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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Thu Mar 2 17:35:26 2023
    On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 07:58:14 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 4:39:25 AM UTC-5, Vedrin Jeliazkov wrote:

    https://bnr.bg/sofia/post/101741290

    https://bnr.bg/hristobotev/post/101779449

    "дарението на Евлоги и Христо Георгиеви за Софийския университет в
    размер на 13 млн. лева през 1911 г., в днешни пари се равнява на 602
    млн. лева"

    Един любопитен факт: 13 млн. лева през 1911 са равни на 3.8 тона злато.
    602 млн. лева днес са равни на 5.4 тона злато. За 112 години инфлацията
    в България изразена в злато е едва 43%, или 0.31% на година.

    странно, за едни и същи пари, преди 112 години купуваш по-малко злато,
    отколкото сега.

    някой с iq < 64 би казал, че сега златото е с по-ниска цена …

    --
    «地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 2 09:49:25 2023
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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Thu Mar 2 17:58:31 2023
    On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 09:49:25 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 12:35:27 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

    On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 07:58:14 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 4:39:25 AM UTC-5, Vedrin Jeliazkov
    wrote:

    https://bnr.bg/sofia/post/101741290

    https://bnr.bg/hristobotev/post/101779449

    "дарението на Евлоги и Христо Георгиеви за Софийския университет в
    размер на 13 млн. лева през 1911 г., в днешни пари се равнява на 602
    млн. лева"

    Един любопитен факт: 13 млн. лева през 1911 са равни на 3.8 тона
    злато.

    602 млн. лева днес са равни на 5.4 тона злато. За 112 години
    инфлацията в България изразена в злато е едва 43%, или 0.31% на
    година.

    странно, за едни и същи пари, преди 112 години купуваш по-малко злато,
    отколкото сега.

    някой с iq < 64 би казал, че сега златото е с по-ниска цена …

    Цена изразена в какво?

    ти четеш ли какво си написал?! три абзаца по-нагоре?!

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    «地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 2 11:12:17 2023
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  • From chorbalan@21:1/5 to Nick on Thu Mar 2 21:54:44 2023
    On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 17:35:26 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

    On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 07:58:14 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 4:39:25 AM UTC-5, Vedrin Jeliazkov wrote:

    https://bnr.bg/sofia/post/101741290

    https://bnr.bg/hristobotev/post/101779449

    "дарението на Евлоги и Христо Георгиеви за Софийския университет в
    размер на 13 млн. лева през 1911 г., в днешни пари се равнява на 602
    млн. лева"

    Един любопитен факт: 13 млн. лева през 1911 са равни на 3.8 тона злато.
    602 млн. лева днес са равни на 5.4 тона злато. За 112 години инфлацията
    в България изразена в злато е едва 43%, или 0.31% на година.

    странно, за едни и същи пари, преди 112 години купуваш по-малко злато,
    отколкото сега.

    някой с iq < 64 би казал, че сега златото е с по-ниска цена …

    Сигурно е така. Все пак има много повече злато сега отколкото преди 250 години.

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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to chorbalan on Fri Mar 3 06:55:59 2023
    On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 21:54:44 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

    On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 17:35:26 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

    On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 07:58:14 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 4:39:25 AM UTC-5, Vedrin Jeliazkov
    wrote:

    https://bnr.bg/sofia/post/101741290

    https://bnr.bg/hristobotev/post/101779449

    "дарението на Евлоги и Христо Георгиеви за Софийския университет в
    размер на 13 млн. лева през 1911 г., в днешни пари се равнява на 602
    млн. лева"

    Един любопитен факт: 13 млн. лева през 1911 са равни на 3.8 тона
    злато.

    602 млн. лева днес са равни на 5.4 тона злато. За 112 години
    инфлацията в България изразена в злато е едва 43%, или 0.31% на
    година.

    странно, за едни и същи пари, преди 112 години купуваш по-малко злато,
    отколкото сега.

    някой с iq < 64 би казал, че сега златото е с по-ниска цена …

    Сигурно е така. Все пак има много повече злато сега отколкото преди 250
    години.

    може, за това няма да споря.

    --
    «地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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