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On Fri, 13 May 2022 00:40:44 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

Помните ли като ви казах, че трябва да се инвестира в рубли:-)))

https://money.bg/finance/bloomberg-rublata-e-nay-dobrata-valuta-na-

godinata.html

не дълбай с длетото тънко сърцата таласъмски :)

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On Fri, 13 May 2022 09:28:00 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 3:40:46 AM UTC-4, Радостина wrote:

Помните ли като ви казах, че трябва да се инвестира в рубли:-)))
https://money.bg/finance/bloomberg-rublata-e-nay-dobrata-valuta-na- godinata.html

Интересно дали прочете статията или само си погледнала заглавието? В нея
ясно пише "въведеният от Русия капиталов контрол превърна рублата в...".

Знаеш ли какво означава това? Нека пробвам на език, който навярно може
да разбереш: Това е като курса на долара по БНБ в НРБ. На него можеш да
си продадеш доларите на държавата, но на него няма как да си изкараш
рублите от Русия.

ще пробвам и аз на език, който навярно няма да разбереш: за чий ти е да
изкарваш рубли(те) от русия?

нали ти беше човекът, който твърдеше наскоро, че рублата е практически
неконвертируема?

та имаш ли обяснение поне за себе си?

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On Fri, 13 May 2022 10:03:55 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

И етествено за инвестирането беше шега, но е покаателно как рублата се
качва спрямо долара

Както казах, когато един капиталов пазар е затворен курса на валутата
оперираща в него спрямо други валути е фикция (т.е. безсмислен).

както винаги -- лицемер.

когато един долар се обменяше за сто рубли, курсът не беше фикция, нали?
сега вече е.

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On Fri, 13 May 2022 14:43:51 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 11:45:23 AM UTC-7, Nick wrote:

On Fri, 13 May 2022 10:03:55 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

И етествено за инвестирането беше шега, но е покаателно как рублата
се качва спрямо долара

Както казах, когато един капиталов пазар е затворен курса на валутата
оперираща в него спрямо други валути е фикция (т.е. безсмислен).

както винаги -- лицемер.

когато един долар се обменяше за сто рубли, курсът не беше фикция,
нали?

Преди да наложат пълен капиталов контрол не беше фикция. Днес е. Не знам
какво лицемерие ти се привижда.

това, което демонстрираш.

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On Fri, 13 May 2022 14:45:01 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 10:17:22 AM UTC-7, Nick wrote:

On Fri, 13 May 2022 09:28:00 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 3:40:46 AM UTC-4, Радостина wrote:

Помните ли като ви казах, че трябва да се инвестира в рубли:-)))
https://money.bg/finance/bloomberg-rublata-e-nay-dobrata-valuta-na-

godinata.html

Интересно дали прочете статията или само си погледнала заглавието? В
нея ясно пише "въведеният от Русия капиталов контрол превърна рублата
в...".

Знаеш ли какво означава това? Нека пробвам на език, който навярно
може да разбереш: Това е като курса на долара по БНБ в НРБ. На него
можеш да си продадеш доларите на държавата, но на него няма как да си
изкараш рублите от Русия.

ще пробвам и аз на език, който навярно няма да разбереш: за чий ти е да
изкарваш рубли(те) от русия?

Що за глупави въпроси задаваш?!?

на глупав човек -- глупави въпроси, ако трябва да съм в тон с теб.

нали ти беше човекът, който твърдеше наскоро, че рублата е практически
неконвертируема?

Да, аз бях.

та имаш ли обяснение поне за себе си?

??

аха, когато не ти отърва, започваш да се правиш на неразбрал.

хайде да опитаме така: защо руснаците трябва да продават природния газ по
цени в долари, още повече по курс, който не определят те?

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On Sat, 14 May 2022 13:42:56 -0700 (PDT), Tala Sym wrote:

On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 11:45:23 AM UTC-7, Nick wrote:

On Fri, 13 May 2022 10:03:55 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

И етествено за инвестирането беше шега, но е покаателно как рублата
се качва спрямо долара

Както казах, когато един капиталов пазар е затворен курса на валутата
оперираща в него спрямо други валути е фикция (т.е. безсмислен).

както винаги -- лицемер.

когато един долар се обменяше за сто рубли, курсът не беше фикция,
нали?

сега вече е.

Той Ивайло добре ти го е обяснил, ама ти с него няма да се съгласиш, за
колко е часа, та камо ли за рублата, но нека ти дам четиво, в което
просто и ясно е обяснено, как хич не е лицемерие:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/energy/how-war-and-sanctions-

make-the-ruble-harder-to-trade/2022/04/11/8d267832-b9a9-11ec-a92d- c763de818c21_story.html

"Before the war, the ruble was traded round-the-clock in the interbank market. It also changed hands on the Moscow Exchange between 7 a.m.
local time and 11:50 p.m., one of the longest trading days in the
world..."

и после:

"As things stand, __traders no longer consider the ruble to be a
free-trading currency___. Capital controls imposed in the aftermath of Western sanctions mean the exchange rate is effectively a managed one. ...Many currency-trading shops have stopped dealing in the ruble on the grounds that its value seen on monitors is not the price it can be
traded at in the real world."

Питай онази гениална патица защо не беше намерила рубли в Сан Диего, че
да инвестира и забогатее :) - нема търговци, дет да се занимават с
такава валута...

това няма много общо с курса на валутата.

След това, потърси из Телеграм каналите как върви черния пазар на
рубла/долар и ми кажи с колко се различава от официалния.

Сега, по-ясно ли ти е защо преди курса не беше фикция, а сега е? И не
няма нищо лицемерно... Просто пазар.

именно -- пазар. на него фикции няма. фикции има в нечии глави.

интересно ще стане есента или зимата, когато изтекат сегашните договори за
доставка на природен газ. и понеже не ползвам никъде природен газ, мога да
си позволя да постоя и гледам отстрани известно верме.

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On Sun, 15 May 2022 09:07:42 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 9:41:18 PM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

...

хайде да опитаме така: защо руснаците трябва да продават природния газ
по цени в долари, още повече по курс, който не определят те?

Кой е казал, че "руснаците трябва да продават природния газ по цени в
долари"???

това следва от позицията ти в момента.

но ако не можеш да отговориш на този въпрос, може да се върнеш на първия.

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On Sun, 15 May 2022 13:53:35 -0700 (PDT), Tala Sym wrote:

On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 9:35:19 AM UTC-7, Nick wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2022 09:07:42 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 9:41:18 PM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

...

хайде да опитаме така: защо руснаците трябва да продават природния
газ по цени в долари, още повече по курс, който не определят те?

Кой е казал, че "руснаците трябва да продават природния газ по цени в
долари"???

това следва от позицията ти в момента.

Цъ. Това следва от клаузите в договорите. Там Русия се е задължила да
продава срещу евро или долари.

цъ. писал съм „по цени в долари“, а ти говориш за плащане в долари.

и както ви споменах преди няколко дена, тези договори са само за тази
година.

виж, провери там в някой достоверен и независим factchecker колко газови
компании са открили вече сметки в рубли в газпромбанк. пък може след това
да споделиш и тук.

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On Sun, 15 May 2022 14:47:10 -0700 (PDT), Tala Sym wrote:

On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 2:22:44 PM UTC-7, Nick wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2022 13:53:35 -0700 (PDT), Tala Sym wrote:

On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 9:35:19 AM UTC-7, Nick wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2022 09:07:42 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 9:41:18 PM UTC-4, Nick wrote:

...

хайде да опитаме така: защо руснаците трябва да продават
природния газ по цени в долари, още повече по курс, който не
определят те?

Кой е казал, че "руснаците трябва да продават природния газ по
цени в долари"???

това следва от позицията ти в момента.

Цъ. Това следва от клаузите в договорите. Там Русия се е задължила да
продава срещу евро или долари.

цъ. писал съм „по цени в долари“, а ти говориш за плащане в долари.

и както ви споменах преди няколко дена, тези договори са само за тази
година.

виж, провери там в някой достоверен и независим factchecker колко
газови компании са открили вече сметки в рубли в газпромбанк. пък може
след това да споделиш и тук.

За последно четох за около 20-на. С колко общо компании търгува Газпром?
Колко от тях не са открили сметки в рубли? За собствеността на
компаниите в различните категории и търгуваните от тях обеми ще говорим
след това.

и още десетина в процес на откриване. колко мислиш, че са? газпром по-
скоро са търговец на едро, така че не вярвам да търгува директно с много
компании от една държава.

както казах, интересното ще е в края на годината, но да не отместваме
повече темата.

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