• United Methodists edge toward breakup over LGBT policies

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    Good. Homosexuals weakened and destroyed the Roman Empire
    before it failed too. Queers always sniff out the weak for
    attack. If you can't stand up to queers and their mentally ill
    supporters, you deserve to fail and vanish from the gene pool.

    NEW YORK � There's at least one area of agreement among
    conservative, centrist and liberal leaders in the United
    Methodist Church: America's largest mainline Protestant
    denomination is on a path toward likely breakup over differences
    on same-sex marriage and ordination of LGBT pastors.

    The differences have simmered for years, and came to a head in
    February at a conference in St. Louis where delegates voted 438-
    384 for a proposal called the Traditional Plan, which
    strengthens bans on LGBT-inclusive practices. A majority of U.S.-
    based delegates opposed that plan and favored LGBT-friendly
    options, but they were outvoted by U.S. conservatives teamed
    with most of the delegates from Methodist strongholds in Africa
    and the Philippines.

    Many believe the vote will prompt an exodus from the church by
    liberal congregations that are already expressing their
    dissatisfaction over the move.

    Some churches have raised rainbow flags in a show of LGBT
    solidarity. Some pastors have vowed to defy the strict rules and
    continue to allow gay weddings in Methodist churches. Churches
    are withholding dues payments to the main office in protest, and
    the UMC's receipts were down 20 percent in March, according to
    financial reports posted online.

    "It's time for some kind of separation, some kind of amicable
    divorce," said James Howell, pastor of Myers Park United
    Methodist Church in Charlotte, North Carolina, who posted a
    video assailing the proposal for its "real meanness."

    The UMC's nine-member Judicial Council convenes a four-day
    meeting in Evanston, Illinois, on Tuesday to consider legal
    challenges to the Traditional Plan. If the plan is upheld, it
    would take effect for U.S. churches on Jan. 1. If parts of it
    are struck down, that would likely trigger new debate at the
    UMC's next general conference in May 2020.

    The UMC's largest church � the 22,000-member Church of the
    Resurrection with four locations in the Kansas City area � is
    among those applying financial pressure. Its lead pastor, Adam
    Hamilton, says his church is temporarily withholding half of the
    $2.5 million that it normally would have paid to the UMC's head
    office at this stage of the year.

    "We'll ultimately pay it," Hamilton said. "But we want to show
    that this is the impact if our churches leave."

    Hamilton is among the opponents of the Traditional Plan leading
    an initiative dubbed UMC-Next that seeks the best path forward
    for those who share their views. Clergy and activists in the
    alliance have met in Texas and Georgia, and a bigger meeting is
    planned for May 20-22 at Hamilton's megachurch.

    Hamilton, in a telephone interview, said two main options are
    under consideration.

    Under one scenario, many centrists and liberals would leave en
    masse to form a new denomination � a potentially complex
    endeavor given likely disputes over the dissolution process.

    Under the other option, opponents of the Traditional Plan would
    stay in the UMC and resist from within, insisting on LGBT-
    inclusive policies and eventually convincing the conservatives
    that they should be the faction that leaves under what's
    envisioned as a financially smooth "gracious exit."

    "There's a sense that some conservatives have been wanting to
    leave for a long time," Hamilton said. "They're tired of
    fighting about it."

    Formed in a merger in 1968, the United Methodist Church claims
    about 12.6 million members worldwide, including nearly 7 million
    in the United States.

    While other mainline Protestant denominations have embraced gay-
    friendly practices, the UMC still bans them, though acts of
    defiance by pro-LGBT clergy have multiplied. Many have performed
    same-sex weddings; others have come out as gay or lesbian from
    the pulpit.

    Enforcement of the bans has been inconsistent; the Traditional
    Plan aspires to beef up discipline against those engaged in
    defiance.

    Traditional Plan supporter Mark Tooley, who heads a conservative
    Christian think tank, predicts that the UMC will split into
    three denominations � one for centrists, another oriented toward
    liberal activists and a third representing the global alliance
    of U.S. conservatives and their allies overseas.

    "It's a question of how long it takes for that to unfold � and
    of who and how many go into each denomination," Tooley said. "A
    lot of churches will be irreparably harmed as they divide."

    Scott Jones, bishop of the UMC's Houston-based Texas conference,
    says churchgoers in his region are divided in their views, but a
    majority supports the Traditional Plan's concepts.

    "I have urged all of us to love each other, listen to each other
    and respect each other, even if we disagree," said Jones, who
    holds out hope that the UMC's disparate factions can preserve
    some form of unity.

    Ann Craig of Newburgh, New York � a lesbian activist who has
    advocated for greater LGBT inclusion in the UMC � thinks a
    breakup can be avoided, though she's unsure what lies ahead.

    "We expect something new to happen, but what that change should
    be or will be has not jelled yet," she said. "I don't think
    we're going to break up � it's so cumbersome to figure out a way
    to divorce."

    The crisis is being followed closely at Methodist-affiliated
    theology schools based at universities with LGBT-inclusive
    policies. There are 13 UMC-connected theology schools around the
    country.

    "There's a lot of turmoil and distress," said Mary Elizabeth
    Moore, dean of Boston University School of Theology. "We're
    trying to find a future that will be less destructive than where
    we are now."

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/united-methodists-edge-toward-breakup- over-lgbt-policies


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