• Re: Iran hangs three suspected Israeli spies

    From Attila@21:1/5 to 2pcp5kplea0afhia37mg6os10a4o833r8l@ on Thu Jun 26 11:16:49 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, as it cracks
    down on suspected foreign interference.

    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of people have also
    been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now been executed
    on similar charges.

    The three men � Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad Rasoul �
    were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges of �corruption on
    Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states in favour of
    Israel�, according to state media.

    Iran�s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency reported on
    Wednesday that authorities have arrested more than 700 people across
    the country on allegations of spying for Israel.

    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as
    many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iran-hangs-three-suspected-israeli-spies/ar-AA1HnZzo?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=5c78d3b408be41ea95d0ccd73ed77ac0&ei=29


    I do hope they save enough rope for all the IDF war criminals in Gaza

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Thu Jun 26 18:04:40 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, as it cracks
    down on suspected foreign interference.

    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of people have also
    been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now been executed
    on similar charges.

    The three men � Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad Rasoul �
    were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges of �corruption on
    Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states in favour of
    Israel�, according to state media.

    Iran�s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency reported on >>Wednesday that authorities have arrested more than 700 people across
    the country on allegations of spying for Israel.

    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as
    many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    Serves them right for attacking
    America the way they did.

    Back in........?

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  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Jun 26 16:05:14 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:04:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, as it cracks >>>down on suspected foreign interference.

    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of people have also >>>been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now been executed
    on similar charges.

    The three men � Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad Rasoul �
    were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges of �corruption on
    Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states in favour of >>>Israel�, according to state media.

    Iran�s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency reported on >>>Wednesday that authorities have arrested more than 700 people across
    the country on allegations of spying for Israel.

    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as
    many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    Serves them right for attacking
    America the way they did.

    Back in........?


    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Attila on Thu Jun 26 14:00:06 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational about Iran?

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    Thank goodness my iron lung is working again! /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Mutley@21:1/5 to NefeshBarYochai on Fri Jun 27 10:49:22 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    NefeshBarYochai <[email protected]> wrote:

    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, as it cracks
    down on suspected foreign interference.

    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of people have also
    been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now been executed
    on similar charges.

    The three men � Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad Rasoul �
    were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges of �corruption on
    Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states in favour of
    Israel�, according to state media.

    Iran�s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency reported on
    Wednesday that authorities have arrested more than 700 people across
    the country on allegations of spying for Israel.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iran-hangs-three-suspected-israeli-spies/ar-AA1HnZzo?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=5c78d3b408be41ea95d0ccd73ed77ac0&ei=29


    I do hope they save enough rope for all the IDF war criminals in Gaza
    The construction crane business in Iran is booming then.

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  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Jun 26 18:51:40 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational about Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone
    should tell them that is not how to make friends with us.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to hZudna5P7rxZNcD1nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@gi on Thu Jun 26 18:49:39 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:08:17 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:04:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, as it cracks >>>>> down on suspected foreign interference.

    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of people have also >>>>> been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now been executed >>>>> on similar charges.

    The three men � Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad Rasoul �
    were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges of �corruption on
    Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states in favour of
    Israel�, according to state media.

    Iran�s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency reported on
    Wednesday that authorities have arrested more than 700 people across >>>>> the country on allegations of spying for Israel.

    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as
    many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    Serves them right for attacking
    America the way they did.

    Back in........?


    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    what does that have to do with the people they're arresting now

    If they are here illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without exception.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Fri Jun 27 01:26:29 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:08:17 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:04:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, as it
    cracks down on suspected foreign interference.

    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of people have
    also been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now been
    executed on similar charges.

    The three men � Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad Rasoul
    � were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges of �corruption
    on Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states in
    favour of Israel�, according to state media.

    Iran�s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency reported
    on Wednesday that authorities have arrested more than 700 people
    across the country on allegations of spying for Israel.

    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as
    many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    Serves them right for attacking
    America the way they did.

    Back in........?


    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    what does that have to do with the people they're arresting now

    If they are here illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without exception.



    Even Trump has backed off that,
    realizing we NEED immigrants to do
    the dirty work Americans won't touch.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Fri Jun 27 01:33:14 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational about Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone
    should tell them that is not how to make friends with us.



    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Jun 27 04:12:01 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:26:29 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:08:17 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:04:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, as it
    cracks down on suspected foreign interference.

    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of people have >>>>>>> also been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now been
    executed on similar charges.

    The three men � Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad Rasoul >>>>>>> � were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges of �corruption >>>>>>> on Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states in
    favour of Israel�, according to state media.

    Iran�s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency reported
    on Wednesday that authorities have arrested more than 700 people >>>>>>> across the country on allegations of spying for Israel.

    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as
    many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    Serves them right for attacking
    America the way they did.

    Back in........?


    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    what does that have to do with the people they're arresting now

    If they are here illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without exception.



    Even Trump has backed off that,
    realizing we NEED immigrants to do
    the dirty work Americans won't touch.


    I disagree. Set up a legal system for such workers if
    necessary but meanwhile deport them f they are not here
    legally.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to 2hudnS7TT9R3Q8D1nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@gi on Fri Jun 27 04:13:48 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 16:59:47 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational about Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone
    should tell them that is not how to make friends with us.

    but what the usa did was how you make friends

    By taking hostages and trying to foster terrorism?

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to 2hudnS_TT9QBQ8D1nZ2dnZfqn_UAAAAA@gi on Fri Jun 27 04:10:19 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 16:58:29 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:08:17 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:04:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, as it cracks >>>>>>> down on suspected foreign interference.

    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of people have also >>>>>>> been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now been executed >>>>>>> on similar charges.

    The three men � Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad Rasoul � >>>>>>> were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges of �corruption on >>>>>>> Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states in favour of >>>>>>> Israel�, according to state media.

    Iran�s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency reported on >>>>>>> Wednesday that authorities have arrested more than 700 people across >>>>>>> the country on allegations of spying for Israel.

    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as
    many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    Serves them right for attacking
    America the way they did.

    Back in........?


    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    what does that have to do with the people they're arresting now

    If they are here illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without exception.

    i agree but not beaten , tazered , punched and kick or 9 years old

    Only where physical resistance is used. A 9 year old would
    not be a problem and few of them are single isolated
    illegals. There is usually an adult involved.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Jun 27 04:14:38 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational about Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone
    should tell them that is not how to make friends with us.



    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Fri Jun 27 13:16:57 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:26:29 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:08:17 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:04:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, as it >>>>>>>> cracks down on suspected foreign interference.

    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of people
    have
    also been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now been
    executed on similar charges.

    The three men � Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad Rasoul >>>>>>>> � were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges of
    �corruption
    on Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states in
    favour of Israel�, according to state media.

    Iran�s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency reported >>>>>>>> on Wednesday that authorities have arrested more than 700 people >>>>>>>> across the country on allegations of spying for Israel.

    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as
    many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    Serves them right for attacking
    America the way they did.

    Back in........?


    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    what does that have to do with the people they're arresting now

    If they are here illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without exception.



    Even Trump has backed off that,
    realizing we NEED immigrants to do
    the dirty work Americans won't touch.


    I disagree. Set up a legal system for such workers if
    necessary but meanwhile deport them f they are not here
    legally.



    Reagan set up just such a legal system.

    And it worked.



    "I believe in the idea of amnesty for those
    who have put down roots and lived here, even
    though sometime back they may have entered
    illegally"
    Ronald Reagan, granting amnesty to all illegal
    immigrants, 1986

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Fri Jun 27 13:18:45 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational about Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone
    should tell them that is not how to make friends with us.



    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they�re great letters.
    We fell in love."
    https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Fri Jun 27 11:22:15 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Mitchell Holman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in

    <snip>

    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they're great letters.
    We fell in love."

    https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/

    Apparently Trump thought being called a "dotard" was a good thing.

    --
    Osborn's Law:
    Variables won't; constants aren't.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Jun 27 20:20:09 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 09:40:11 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <LPz7Q.17291$[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/27/2025 1:10 AM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 16:58:29 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:08:17 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:04:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, as it cracks
    down on suspected foreign interference.

    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of people have also
    been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now been executed >>>>>>>>> on similar charges.

    The three men � Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad Rasoul � >>>>>>>>> were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges of �corruption on >>>>>>>>> Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states in favour of >>>>>>>>> Israel�, according to state media.

    Iran�s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency reported on >>>>>>>>> Wednesday that authorities have arrested more than 700 people across >>>>>>>>> the country on allegations of spying for Israel.

    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as
    many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    Serves them right for attacking
    America the way they did.

    Back in........?


    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    what does that have to do with the people they're arresting now

    If they are here illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without exception.

    i agree but not beaten , tazered , punched and kick or 9 years old

    Only where physical resistance is used.

    Trump's immigration Gestapo are doing it to everyone, including citizens.

    If any citizens are involved it is by accident. Every
    citizen should carry identification and proof of
    citizenship. In my state it is a special mark on a driver's
    license.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to TlOdnba9od8FCsP1nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@gi on Fri Jun 27 20:18:01 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 06:07:28 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 16:58:29 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:08:17 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:04:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, as it cracks
    down on suspected foreign interference.

    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of people have also
    been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now been executed >>>>>>>>> on similar charges.

    The three men � Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad Rasoul � >>>>>>>>> were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges of �corruption on >>>>>>>>> Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states in favour of >>>>>>>>> Israel�, according to state media.

    Iran�s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency reported on >>>>>>>>> Wednesday that authorities have arrested more than 700 people across >>>>>>>>> the country on allegations of spying for Israel.

    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as
    many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    Serves them right for attacking
    America the way they did.

    Back in........?


    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    what does that have to do with the people they're arresting now

    If they are here illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without exception.

    i agree but not beaten , tazered , punched and kick or 9 years old

    Only where physical resistance is used. A 9 year old would
    not be a problem and few of them are single isolated
    illegals. There is usually an adult involved.

    and you shouldn't use the gangs from jan 6 and dress them up like cops ,

    When did that happen?

    by the way how does someone resist 30 to 40 cops

    The same way you resist one. Don't.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to TlOdnbG9od-MBcP1nZ2dnZfqn_sAAAAA@gi on Fri Jun 27 20:22:27 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 06:09:28 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:26:29 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:08:17 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:04:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, as it >>>>>>>>> cracks down on suspected foreign interference.

    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of people have >>>>>>>>> also been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now been >>>>>>>>> executed on similar charges.

    The three men � Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad Rasoul >>>>>>>>> � were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges of �corruption >>>>>>>>> on Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states in
    favour of Israel�, according to state media.

    Iran�s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency reported >>>>>>>>> on Wednesday that authorities have arrested more than 700 people >>>>>>>>> across the country on allegations of spying for Israel.

    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as
    many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    Serves them right for attacking
    America the way they did.

    Back in........?


    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    what does that have to do with the people they're arresting now

    If they are here illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without exception.



    Even Trump has backed off that,
    realizing we NEED immigrants to do
    the dirty work Americans won't touch.


    I disagree. Set up a legal system for such workers if
    necessary but meanwhile deport them f they are not here
    legally.

    check your own history you're not from the usa ,
    at least your ancestors aren't they're immigrants

    So what? When they immigrated the followed the laws that
    were in effect at that time.

    If they were immigrating today they would do the same or
    enter illegally and be deported.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Jun 27 20:24:16 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:16:57 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:26:29 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:08:17 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:04:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, as it >>>>>>>>> cracks down on suspected foreign interference.

    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of people
    have
    also been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now been >>>>>>>>> executed on similar charges.

    The three men � Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad Rasoul >>>>>>>>> � were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges of
    �corruption
    on Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states in
    favour of Israel�, according to state media.

    Iran�s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency reported >>>>>>>>> on Wednesday that authorities have arrested more than 700 people >>>>>>>>> across the country on allegations of spying for Israel.

    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as
    many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    Serves them right for attacking
    America the way they did.

    Back in........?


    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    what does that have to do with the people they're arresting now

    If they are here illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without exception.



    Even Trump has backed off that,
    realizing we NEED immigrants to do
    the dirty work Americans won't touch.


    I disagree. Set up a legal system for such workers if
    necessary but meanwhile deport them f they are not here
    legally.



    Reagan set up just such a legal system.

    And it worked.

    If it was still being followed there would be the needed
    workers and those here illegally could be deported.




    "I believe in the idea of amnesty for those
    who have put down roots and lived here, even
    though sometime back they may have entered
    illegally"
    Ronald Reagan, granting amnesty to all illegal
    immigrants, 1986


    I disagree. Illegal activity should never be ignored or
    rewarded.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Jun 27 20:26:17 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 09:41:01 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <xQz7Q.17292$[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/27/2025 1:12 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:26:29 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:08:17 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:04:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, as it >>>>>>>>> cracks down on suspected foreign interference.

    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of people have >>>>>>>>> also been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now been >>>>>>>>> executed on similar charges.

    The three men � Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad Rasoul >>>>>>>>> � were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges of �corruption >>>>>>>>> on Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states in
    favour of Israel�, according to state media.

    Iran�s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency reported >>>>>>>>> on Wednesday that authorities have arrested more than 700 people >>>>>>>>> across the country on allegations of spying for Israel.

    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as
    many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    Serves them right for attacking
    America the way they did.

    Back in........?


    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    what does that have to do with the people they're arresting now

    If they are here illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without exception.



    Even Trump has backed off that,
    realizing we NEED immigrants to do
    the dirty work Americans won't touch.


    I disagree.

    You're wrong. You're wrong because you're stupid and have shit character.

    I am overwhelmed by your carefully researched and
    fact-filled response.

    Except it's Rudy and nobody gives a damn what he does.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Jun 27 20:28:29 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:18:45 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational about Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone
    should tell them that is not how to make friends with us.



    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they�re great letters.
    We fell in love."
    https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/


    He is basically a real estate salesman. He loves everything
    and everybody in the off chance he can sell them something.

    It is what he does and he does it very well.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to Attila on Fri Jun 27 18:01:25 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 6/27/2025 5:20 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 09:40:11 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <LPz7Q.17291$[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/27/2025 1:10 AM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 16:58:29 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:08:17 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:04:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, as it cracks
    down on suspected foreign interference.

    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of people have also
    been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now been executed
    on similar charges.

    The three men – Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad Rasoul –
    were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges of “corruption on >>>>>>>>>> Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states in favour of >>>>>>>>>> Israel”, according to state media.

    Iran’s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency reported on >>>>>>>>>> Wednesday that authorities have arrested more than 700 people across >>>>>>>>>> the country on allegations of spying for Israel.

    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as
    many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    Serves them right for attacking
    America the way they did.

    Back in........?


    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    what does that have to do with the people they're arresting now

    If they are here illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without exception.

    i agree but not beaten , tazered , punched and kick or 9 years old

    Only where physical resistance is used.

    Trump's immigration Gestapo are doing it to everyone, including citizens.

    If any citizens are involved it is by accident.

    No, you stupid blowjob, it isn't. It's because the criminal Nazi filth Trump regime *doesn't care".

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to Attila on Fri Jun 27 18:02:46 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 6/27/2025 5:26 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 09:41:01 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <xQz7Q.17292$[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/27/2025 1:12 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:26:29 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:08:17 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:04:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, as it >>>>>>>>>> cracks down on suspected foreign interference.

    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of people have >>>>>>>>>> also been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now been >>>>>>>>>> executed on similar charges.

    The three men – Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad Rasoul >>>>>>>>>> – were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges of “corruption
    on Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states in >>>>>>>>>> favour of Israel”, according to state media.

    Iran’s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency reported >>>>>>>>>> on Wednesday that authorities have arrested more than 700 people >>>>>>>>>> across the country on allegations of spying for Israel.

    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as
    many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    Serves them right for attacking
    America the way they did.

    Back in........?


    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    what does that have to do with the people they're arresting now

    If they are here illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without exception.



    Even Trump has backed off that,
    realizing we NEED immigrants to do
    the dirty work Americans won't touch.


    I disagree.

    You're wrong. You're wrong because you're stupid and have shit character.

    I am overwhelmed by

    basic logic.

    Yes, we can see.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Sat Jun 28 02:01:59 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:18:45 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational about Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone
    should tell them that is not how to make friends with us.



    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they�re great letters.
    We fell in love."
    https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/


    He is basically a real estate salesman.


    He is a huckster and con artist
    and a convicted felon.


    He loves everything
    and everybody in the off chance he can sell them something.


    He cheated his wives, his investors,
    his suppliers, his lawyers, his supporters
    and his "students". He will promise anything
    to anyone and walk away from any debt or
    obligation. He only cares about himself.


    It is what he does and he does it very well.


    Everyone who trusts Trump gets burned.



    The Trump campaign has over $1 million in
    outstanding bills from American cities
    October 24, 2019
    https://tinyurl.com/u8bazxt8

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Sat Jun 28 01:52:59 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:16:57 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:26:29 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:08:17 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:04:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, as
    it
    cracks down on suspected foreign interference.

    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of people
    have
    also been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now been >>>>>>>>>> executed on similar charges.

    The three men � Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad
    Rasoul
    � were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges of
    �corruption
    on Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states in >>>>>>>>>> favour of Israel�, according to state media.

    Iran�s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency
    reported
    on Wednesday that authorities have arrested more than 700
    people
    across the country on allegations of spying for Israel.

    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as
    many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    Serves them right for attacking
    America the way they did.

    Back in........?


    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    what does that have to do with the people they're arresting now

    If they are here illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without exception.



    Even Trump has backed off that,
    realizing we NEED immigrants to do
    the dirty work Americans won't touch.


    I disagree. Set up a legal system for such workers if
    necessary but meanwhile deport them f they are not here
    legally.



    Reagan set up just such a legal system.

    And it worked.

    If it was still being followed there would be the needed
    workers and those here illegally could be deported.




    "I believe in the idea of amnesty for those
    who have put down roots and lived here, even
    though sometime back they may have entered
    illegally"
    Ronald Reagan, granting amnesty to all illegal
    immigrants, 1986


    I disagree. Illegal activity should never be ignored or
    rewarded.



    This country was founded by people
    who broke the law. Should they have
    all been punished?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to XFOdnarAALBsq8L1nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@gi on Sat Jun 28 04:38:32 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:27:38 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 09:40:11 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <LPz7Q.17291$[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/27/2025 1:10 AM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 16:58:29 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:08:17 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:04:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, as it cracks
    down on suspected foreign interference.

    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of people have also
    been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now been executed
    on similar charges.

    The three men � Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad Rasoul � >>>>>>>>>>> were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges of �corruption on >>>>>>>>>>> Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states in favour of >>>>>>>>>>> Israel�, according to state media.

    Iran�s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency reported on >>>>>>>>>>> Wednesday that authorities have arrested more than 700 people across
    the country on allegations of spying for Israel.

    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as
    many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    Serves them right for attacking
    America the way they did.

    Back in........?


    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    what does that have to do with the people they're arresting now

    If they are here illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without exception.

    i agree but not beaten , tazered , punched and kick or 9 years old

    Only where physical resistance is used.

    Trump's immigration Gestapo are doing it to everyone, including citizens. >>
    If any citizens are involved it is by accident. Every
    citizen should carry identification and proof of
    citizenship. In my state it is a special mark on a driver's
    license.

    gotta watch them 9 year old they can really scrap

    They are the responsibility of their parents or guardian.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Jun 28 04:39:10 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 18:01:25 -0700, J Carlson
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <103net5$e5nc$[email protected]> wrote:

    Trump's immigration Gestapo are doing it to everyone, including citizens. >>
    If any citizens are involved it is by accident.

    No, you stupid blowjob, it isn't. It's because the criminal Nazi filth Trump >regime *doesn't care".

    Rudy again.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to XFOdnavAALAuq8L1nZ2dnZfqn_UAAAAA@gi on Sat Jun 28 04:37:11 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:26:36 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 06:07:28 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 16:58:29 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:08:17 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:04:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, as it cracks
    down on suspected foreign interference.

    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of people have also
    been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now been executed
    on similar charges.

    The three men � Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad Rasoul � >>>>>>>>>>> were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges of �corruption on >>>>>>>>>>> Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states in favour of >>>>>>>>>>> Israel�, according to state media.

    Iran�s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency reported on >>>>>>>>>>> Wednesday that authorities have arrested more than 700 people across
    the country on allegations of spying for Israel.

    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as
    many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    Serves them right for attacking
    America the way they did.

    Back in........?


    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    what does that have to do with the people they're arresting now

    If they are here illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without exception.

    i agree but not beaten , tazered , punched and kick or 9 years old

    Only where physical resistance is used. A 9 year old would
    not be a problem and few of them are single isolated
    illegals. There is usually an adult involved.

    and you shouldn't use the gangs from jan 6 and dress them up like cops ,

    When did that happen?

    by the way how does someone resist 30 to 40 cops

    The same way you resist one. Don't.

    well there aren't any where i live so i can't ,
    but i should think 2 would be enough or maybe 4

    There are no police where you live?

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to XFOdnaXAALC2qsL1nZ2dnZfqn_UAAAAA@gi on Sat Jun 28 04:40:22 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:28:36 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 06:09:28 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:26:29 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:08:17 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:04:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, as it >>>>>>>>>>> cracks down on suspected foreign interference.

    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of people have >>>>>>>>>>> also been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now been >>>>>>>>>>> executed on similar charges.

    The three men � Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad Rasoul >>>>>>>>>>> � were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges of �corruption >>>>>>>>>>> on Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states in >>>>>>>>>>> favour of Israel�, according to state media.

    Iran�s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency reported >>>>>>>>>>> on Wednesday that authorities have arrested more than 700 people >>>>>>>>>>> across the country on allegations of spying for Israel.

    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as
    many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    Serves them right for attacking
    America the way they did.

    Back in........?


    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    what does that have to do with the people they're arresting now

    If they are here illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without exception.



    Even Trump has backed off that,
    realizing we NEED immigrants to do
    the dirty work Americans won't touch.


    I disagree. Set up a legal system for such workers if
    necessary but meanwhile deport them f they are not here
    legally.

    check your own history you're not from the usa ,
    at least your ancestors aren't they're immigrants

    So what? When they immigrated the followed the laws that
    were in effect at that time.

    If they were immigrating today they would do the same or
    enter illegally and be deported.

    you don't know what they did when they came here you weren't there

    True, but you don't know either.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to XFOdnaTAALAYqsL1nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@gi on Sat Jun 28 04:54:05 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:30:05 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:16:57 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:26:29 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:08:17 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:04:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, as it >>>>>>>>>>> cracks down on suspected foreign interference.

    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of people
    have
    also been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now been >>>>>>>>>>> executed on similar charges.

    The three men � Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad Rasoul >>>>>>>>>>> � were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges of
    �corruption
    on Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states in >>>>>>>>>>> favour of Israel�, according to state media.

    Iran�s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency reported >>>>>>>>>>> on Wednesday that authorities have arrested more than 700 people >>>>>>>>>>> across the country on allegations of spying for Israel.

    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as
    many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    Serves them right for attacking
    America the way they did.

    Back in........?


    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    what does that have to do with the people they're arresting now

    If they are here illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without exception.



    Even Trump has backed off that,
    realizing we NEED immigrants to do
    the dirty work Americans won't touch.


    I disagree. Set up a legal system for such workers if
    necessary but meanwhile deport them f they are not here
    legally.



    Reagan set up just such a legal system.

    And it worked.

    If it was still being followed there would be the needed
    workers and those here illegally could be deported.




    "I believe in the idea of amnesty for those
    who have put down roots and lived here, even
    though sometime back they may have entered
    illegally"
    Ronald Reagan, granting amnesty to all illegal
    immigrants, 1986


    I disagree. Illegal activity should never be ignored or
    rewarded.

    jails could hold all the offenders

    The penalty for entering the country illegally is to be
    deported along with other fines and penalties.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Jun 28 04:56:00 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 01:52:59 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:16:57 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:26:29 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:08:17 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:04:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, as
    it
    cracks down on suspected foreign interference.

    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of people >>>have
    also been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now been >>>>>>>>>>> executed on similar charges.

    The three men � Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad
    Rasoul
    � were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges of >>>�corruption
    on Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states in >>>>>>>>>>> favour of Israel�, according to state media.

    Iran�s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency
    reported
    on Wednesday that authorities have arrested more than 700
    people
    across the country on allegations of spying for Israel.

    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as
    many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    Serves them right for attacking
    America the way they did.

    Back in........?


    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    what does that have to do with the people they're arresting now

    If they are here illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without exception.



    Even Trump has backed off that,
    realizing we NEED immigrants to do
    the dirty work Americans won't touch.


    I disagree. Set up a legal system for such workers if
    necessary but meanwhile deport them f they are not here
    legally.



    Reagan set up just such a legal system.

    And it worked.

    If it was still being followed there would be the needed
    workers and those here illegally could be deported.




    "I believe in the idea of amnesty for those
    who have put down roots and lived here, even
    though sometime back they may have entered
    illegally"
    Ronald Reagan, granting amnesty to all illegal
    immigrants, 1986


    I disagree. Illegal activity should never be ignored or
    rewarded.



    This country was founded by people
    who broke the law. Should they have
    all been punished?


    They would have been if they had lost the war that followed.
    Do you advocate illegals should declare war on the US?

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Jun 28 04:58:38 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 02:01:59 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:18:45 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational about Iran? >>>>>>
    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone
    should tell them that is not how to make friends with us.



    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they�re great letters.
    We fell in love."
    https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/


    He is basically a real estate salesman.


    He is a huckster and con artist
    and a convicted felon.

    Under appeal. Or was that dropped? I have lost count.



    He loves everything
    and everybody in the off chance he can sell them something.


    He cheated his wives, his investors,
    his suppliers, his lawyers, his supporters
    and his "students". He will promise anything
    to anyone and walk away from any debt or
    obligation. He only cares about himself.


    It is what he does and he does it very well.


    Everyone who trusts Trump gets burned.



    The Trump campaign has over $1 million in
    outstanding bills from American cities
    October 24, 2019
    https://tinyurl.com/u8bazxt8


    A drop in the bucket.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Sat Jun 28 13:12:51 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 02:01:59 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:18:45 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational about
    Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone
    should tell them that is not how to make friends with us.



    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they�re great letters.
    We fell in love." >>>>https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/


    He is basically a real estate salesman.


    He is a huckster and con artist
    and a convicted felon.

    Under appeal. Or was that dropped? I have lost count.



    Why do you support this crook?





    He loves everything
    and everybody in the off chance he can sell them something.


    He cheated his wives, his investors,
    his suppliers, his lawyers, his supporters
    and his "students". He will promise anything
    to anyone and walk away from any debt or
    obligation. He only cares about himself.


    It is what he does and he does it very well.


    Everyone who trusts Trump gets burned.



    The Trump campaign has over $1 million in
    outstanding bills from American cities
    October 24, 2019
    https://tinyurl.com/u8bazxt8


    A drop in the bucket.



    The billionaire who won't pay his bills.

    And who doesn't pay taxes.

    But want OTHERS to pay their bills.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Sat Jun 28 13:10:12 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 01:52:59 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:16:57 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:26:29 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:08:17 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:04:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, as
    it
    cracks down on suspected foreign interference.

    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of people >>>>have
    also been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now been >>>>>>>>>>>> executed on similar charges.

    The three men � Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad
    Rasoul
    � were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges of >>>>�corruption
    on Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states in >>>>>>>>>>>> favour of Israel�, according to state media.

    Iran�s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency
    reported
    on Wednesday that authorities have arrested more than 700
    people
    across the country on allegations of spying for Israel. >>>>>>>>>>>
    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as >>>>>>>>>>> many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    Serves them right for attacking
    America the way they did.

    Back in........?


    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    what does that have to do with the people they're arresting now

    If they are here illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without exception.



    Even Trump has backed off that,
    realizing we NEED immigrants to do
    the dirty work Americans won't touch.


    I disagree. Set up a legal system for such workers if
    necessary but meanwhile deport them f they are not here
    legally.



    Reagan set up just such a legal system.

    And it worked.

    If it was still being followed there would be the needed
    workers and those here illegally could be deported.




    "I believe in the idea of amnesty for those
    who have put down roots and lived here, even
    though sometime back they may have entered
    illegally"
    Ronald Reagan, granting amnesty to all illegal
    immigrants, 1986


    I disagree. Illegal activity should never be ignored or
    rewarded.



    This country was founded by people
    who broke the law. Should they have
    all been punished?


    They would have been if they had lost the war that followed.


    Well at least you admit this country
    was founded by people breaking the law.


    Do you advocate illegals should declare war on the US?


    Even Trump wants amnesty for them.

    As long as they are working.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sat Jun 28 17:59:18 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 04:12:01 -0400, Attila <[email protected]> wrote:

    I disagree. Set up a legal system for such workers if
    necessary but meanwhile deport them f they are not here
    legally.




    $12,500 per deportation.
    http://tinyurl.com/88u5zvx

    Times 20 million.

    Who is going to pay for THAT?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Sat Jun 28 17:52:33 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:30:05 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:16:57 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:26:29 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:08:17 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:04:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, >>>>>>>>>>>> as it cracks down on suspected foreign interference.

    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of
    people
    have
    also been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now >>>>>>>>>>>> been executed on similar charges.

    The three men � Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad >>>>>>>>>>>> Rasoul � were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges >>>>>>>>>>>> of
    �corruption
    on Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states in >>>>>>>>>>>> favour of Israel�, according to state media.

    Iran�s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency >>>>>>>>>>>> reported on Wednesday that authorities have arrested more >>>>>>>>>>>> than 700 people across the country on allegations of spying >>>>>>>>>>>> for Israel.

    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as >>>>>>>>>>> many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    Serves them right for attacking
    America the way they did.

    Back in........?


    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    what does that have to do with the people they're arresting now >>>>>>>
    If they are here illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without exception.



    Even Trump has backed off that,
    realizing we NEED immigrants to do
    the dirty work Americans won't touch.


    I disagree. Set up a legal system for such workers if
    necessary but meanwhile deport them f they are not here
    legally.



    Reagan set up just such a legal system.

    And it worked.

    If it was still being followed there would be the needed
    workers and those here illegally could be deported.




    "I believe in the idea of amnesty for those
    who have put down roots and lived here, even
    though sometime back they may have entered
    illegally"
    Ronald Reagan, granting amnesty to all illegal
    immigrants, 1986


    I disagree. Illegal activity should never be ignored or
    rewarded.

    jails could hold all the offenders

    The penalty for entering the country illegally is to be
    deported along with other fines and penalties.




    "Catch and release"

    And come harvest time they will right
    back in the US, doing the jobs only they
    are willing to do.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From algorithmic behavior@21:1/5 to Attila on Sat Jun 28 11:49:58 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 6/27/2025 5:28 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:18:45 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational about Iran? >>>>>
    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone
    should tell them that is not how to make friends with us.



    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they’re great letters.
    We fell in love."
    https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/


    He is basically a real estate salesman.

    He is not a real estate salesman, you fucking idiot. He's a real estate investor, and not a particularly astute one.

    He loves everything and everybody

    He loves only himself, you fucking idiot.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sat Jun 28 11:58:31 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 04:12:01 -0400, Attila <[email protected]> wrote:

    I disagree. Set up a legal system for such workers if
    necessary but meanwhile deport them f they are not here
    legally.




    $12,500 per deportation.
    http://tinyurl.com/88u5zvx

    Times 20 million.

    Who is going to pay for THAT?



    Mexico.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    Thank goodness my iron lung is working again! /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to eymdnRcHB-NF1P31nZ2dnZfqn_gAAAAA@gi on Sat Jun 28 18:28:28 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 13:00:24 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:27:38 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 09:40:11 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <LPz7Q.17291$[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/27/2025 1:10 AM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 16:58:29 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:08:17 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:04:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, as it cracks
    down on suspected foreign interference.

    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of people have also
    been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now been executed
    on similar charges.

    The three men � Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad Rasoul �
    were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges of �corruption on
    Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states in favour of
    Israel�, according to state media.

    Iran�s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency reported on
    Wednesday that authorities have arrested more than 700 people across
    the country on allegations of spying for Israel.

    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as >>>>>>>>>>>> many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    Serves them right for attacking
    America the way they did.

    Back in........?


    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    what does that have to do with the people they're arresting now >>>>>>>>
    If they are here illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without exception.

    i agree but not beaten , tazered , punched and kick or 9 years old >>>>>>
    Only where physical resistance is used.

    Trump's immigration Gestapo are doing it to everyone, including citizens. >>>>
    If any citizens are involved it is by accident. Every
    citizen should carry identification and proof of
    citizenship. In my state it is a special mark on a driver's
    license.

    gotta watch them 9 year old they can really scrap

    They are the responsibility of their parents or guardian.

    9 year olds with drivers licenses

    Of course not. Documentation is the responsibility of the
    parents and a DL is not used everywhere.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to eymdnRYHB-Ni1P31nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@gi on Sat Jun 28 18:30:39 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 13:01:04 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:28:36 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 06:09:28 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:26:29 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:08:17 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:04:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, as it >>>>>>>>>>>>> cracks down on suspected foreign interference.

    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of people have >>>>>>>>>>>>> also been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now been >>>>>>>>>>>>> executed on similar charges.

    The three men � Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad Rasoul >>>>>>>>>>>>> � were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges of �corruption >>>>>>>>>>>>> on Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states in >>>>>>>>>>>>> favour of Israel�, according to state media.

    Iran�s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency reported >>>>>>>>>>>>> on Wednesday that authorities have arrested more than 700 people >>>>>>>>>>>>> across the country on allegations of spying for Israel. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as >>>>>>>>>>>> many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    Serves them right for attacking
    America the way they did.

    Back in........?


    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    what does that have to do with the people they're arresting now >>>>>>>>
    If they are here illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without exception.



    Even Trump has backed off that,
    realizing we NEED immigrants to do
    the dirty work Americans won't touch.


    I disagree. Set up a legal system for such workers if
    necessary but meanwhile deport them f they are not here
    legally.

    check your own history you're not from the usa ,
    at least your ancestors aren't they're immigrants

    So what? When they immigrated the followed the laws that
    were in effect at that time.

    If they were immigrating today they would do the same or
    enter illegally and be deported.

    you don't know what they did when they came here you weren't there

    True, but you don't know either.

    i never said i did , you did

    You clearly implied they were the equivalent of the illegals
    today. Otherwise you would not have raised the issue.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Jun 28 18:32:30 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 17:52:33 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:30:05 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:16:57 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:26:29 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:08:17 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:04:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, >>>>>>>>>>>>> as it cracks down on suspected foreign interference. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of >>>>>>>>>>>>> people
    have
    also been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now >>>>>>>>>>>>> been executed on similar charges.

    The three men � Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rasoul � were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges >>>>>>>>>>>>> of
    �corruption
    on Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states in >>>>>>>>>>>>> favour of Israel�, according to state media.

    Iran�s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency >>>>>>>>>>>>> reported on Wednesday that authorities have arrested more >>>>>>>>>>>>> than 700 people across the country on allegations of spying >>>>>>>>>>>>> for Israel.

    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as >>>>>>>>>>>> many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    Serves them right for attacking
    America the way they did.

    Back in........?


    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    what does that have to do with the people they're arresting now >>>>>>>>
    If they are here illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without exception.



    Even Trump has backed off that,
    realizing we NEED immigrants to do
    the dirty work Americans won't touch.


    I disagree. Set up a legal system for such workers if
    necessary but meanwhile deport them f they are not here
    legally.



    Reagan set up just such a legal system.

    And it worked.

    If it was still being followed there would be the needed
    workers and those here illegally could be deported.




    "I believe in the idea of amnesty for those
    who have put down roots and lived here, even
    though sometime back they may have entered
    illegally"
    Ronald Reagan, granting amnesty to all illegal
    immigrants, 1986


    I disagree. Illegal activity should never be ignored or
    rewarded.

    jails could hold all the offenders

    The penalty for entering the country illegally is to be
    deported along with other fines and penalties.




    "Catch and release"

    And come harvest time they will right
    back in the US, doing the jobs only they
    are willing to do.


    That was Biden. Today it is catch, fingerprint, and deport.
    And they are barred from any legal entry.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Jun 28 18:33:57 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 13:10:12 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 01:52:59 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:16:57 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:26:29 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:08:17 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:04:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, as >>>it
    cracks down on suspected foreign interference.

    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of people >>>>>have
    also been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now been >>>>>>>>>>>>> executed on similar charges.

    The three men � Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad >>>Rasoul
    � were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges of >>>>>�corruption
    on Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states in >>>>>>>>>>>>> favour of Israel�, according to state media.

    Iran�s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency >>>reported
    on Wednesday that authorities have arrested more than 700 >>>people
    across the country on allegations of spying for Israel. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as >>>>>>>>>>>> many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    Serves them right for attacking
    America the way they did.

    Back in........?


    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    what does that have to do with the people they're arresting now >>>>>>>>
    If they are here illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without exception.



    Even Trump has backed off that,
    realizing we NEED immigrants to do
    the dirty work Americans won't touch.


    I disagree. Set up a legal system for such workers if
    necessary but meanwhile deport them f they are not here
    legally.



    Reagan set up just such a legal system.

    And it worked.

    If it was still being followed there would be the needed
    workers and those here illegally could be deported.




    "I believe in the idea of amnesty for those
    who have put down roots and lived here, even
    though sometime back they may have entered
    illegally"
    Ronald Reagan, granting amnesty to all illegal
    immigrants, 1986


    I disagree. Illegal activity should never be ignored or
    rewarded.



    This country was founded by people
    who broke the law. Should they have
    all been punished?


    They would have been if they had lost the war that followed.


    Well at least you admit this country
    was founded by people breaking the law.

    It isn't much of a secret.



    Do you advocate illegals should declare war on the US?


    Even Trump wants amnesty for them.

    As long as they are working.


    I am not Trump.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Jun 28 18:34:58 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 17:59:18 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 04:12:01 -0400, Attila <[email protected]> wrote:

    I disagree. Set up a legal system for such workers if
    necessary but meanwhile deport them f they are not here
    legally.




    $12,500 per deportation.
    http://tinyurl.com/88u5zvx

    Times 20 million.

    Who is going to pay for THAT?


    It is cheaper than what they cost now.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to message-id on Sat Jun 28 18:37:44 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 11:49:58 -0700, algorithmic behavior <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with
    message-id <pPW7Q.2120$[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/27/2025 5:28 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:18:45 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational about Iran? >>>>>>
    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone
    should tell them that is not how to make friends with us.



    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they�re great letters.
    We fell in love."
    https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/


    He is basically a real estate salesman.

    He is not a real estate salesman, you fucking idiot. He's a real estate >investor, and not a particularly astute one.

    He is worth more than you are.


    He loves everything and everybody

    He loves only himself, you fucking idiot.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Jun 28 18:36:59 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 13:12:51 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 02:01:59 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:18:45 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational about
    Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone
    should tell them that is not how to make friends with us.



    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they�re great letters.
    We fell in love." >>>>>https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/


    He is basically a real estate salesman.


    He is a huckster and con artist
    and a convicted felon.

    Under appeal. Or was that dropped? I have lost count.



    Why do you support this crook?

    He is not a crook, he does what he says he will do, and I
    agree with most of what he does.






    He loves everything
    and everybody in the off chance he can sell them something.


    He cheated his wives, his investors,
    his suppliers, his lawyers, his supporters
    and his "students". He will promise anything
    to anyone and walk away from any debt or
    obligation. He only cares about himself.


    It is what he does and he does it very well.


    Everyone who trusts Trump gets burned.



    The Trump campaign has over $1 million in
    outstanding bills from American cities
    October 24, 2019
    https://tinyurl.com/u8bazxt8


    A drop in the bucket.



    The billionaire who won't pay his bills.

    And who doesn't pay taxes.

    Tax avoidance is legal.


    But want OTHERS to pay their bills.



    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Sun Jun 29 01:40:00 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 11:49:58 -0700, algorithmic behavior <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with
    message-id <pPW7Q.2120$[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/27/2025 5:28 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:18:45 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational about
    Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone
    should tell them that is not how to make friends with us.



    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they�re great letters.
    We fell in love."
    https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/


    He is basically a real estate salesman.

    He is not a real estate salesman, you fucking idiot. He's a real
    estate investor, and not a particularly astute one.

    He is worth more than you are.


    And he made his first million the
    old fashioned way - as a graduation
    present from Daddykins.

    Are we supposed to be impressed
    by that?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Sun Jun 29 01:45:40 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 17:59:18 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote in >>news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 04:12:01 -0400, Attila <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    I disagree. Set up a legal system for such workers if
    necessary but meanwhile deport them f they are not here
    legally.




    $12,500 per deportation.
    http://tinyurl.com/88u5zvx

    Times 20 million.

    Who is going to pay for THAT?


    It is cheaper than what they cost now.




    Undocumented immigrants contribute more to
    Social Security than they receive in benefits
    MAy 1

    "Immigrants overall actually help bolster
    the finances of Social Security," said
    Jack Smalligan, a senior policy fellow at
    the Urban Institute and co-author of a
    proposal to address Social Security's
    trust fund shortfall in part by increasing
    employment and family-based visas.
    "Immigrants are very important right now,
    especially as we see a very low birth rate
    among Americans. Immigrants tend to be
    younger and contribute to Social Security
    throughout their lifetime."

    Legal immigrants and many undocumented
    workers without employment authorization
    pay Social Security taxes, analyses show.
    Some undocumented immigrants use fake
    Social Security numbers or ones they may
    have had before their work permits lapsed.

    In 2022, for example, undocumented
    immigrants paid nearly $100 billion in
    federal, state and local income taxes,
    including nearly $26 billion in Social
    Security taxes and $6.4 billion in
    Medicare taxes, according to the
    Institute on Taxation and Economic
    Policy, a left-leaning think tank.
    (The report takes into account both
    employer and employee contributions
    to Social Security and Medicare taxes.)

    "The federal government is essentially
    receiving free money from these
    undocumented immigrants," said Marco
    Guzman, senior analyst at the institute.
    "They are contributing to a system they
    will not benefit from. Who is benefiting?
    It's American citizens."

    For instance, the surge of immigrants
    in recent years is expected to boost
    Social Security's revenues by $348
    billion between 2024 and 2034,
    according to a Congressional Budget
    Office analysis released last year.
    Over the same period, these folks
    will collect only about $1 billion,
    the CBO projected.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/01/politics/undocumented-immigrants- social-security

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Sun Jun 29 01:58:43 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 13:12:51 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 02:01:59 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:18:45 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational about
    Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone
    should tell them that is not how to make friends with us.



    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they�re great letters.
    We fell in love." >>>>>>https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/


    He is basically a real estate salesman.


    He is a huckster and con artist
    and a convicted felon.

    Under appeal. Or was that dropped? I have lost count.



    Why do you support this crook?

    He is not a crook, he does what he says he will do, and I
    agree with most of what he does.



    LOL!

    Did Trump lower prices, as he promised?

    Did he lock up Hillary, as he promised?

    Did he "make Mexico pay for it", as he promised?

    Did he release his taxes, as he promised?

    Did he "build the wall", as he promised?

    Did he eliminate the federal debt, as he promised?

    Did he "appoint only the best", as he promised?

    Did he end the Ukraine war, as he promised?

    Did he stay faithful to ANY of his wives, as he promised?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Sun Jun 29 02:12:30 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 17:52:33 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:30:05 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:16:57 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:26:29 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:08:17 -0700, % <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:04:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as it cracks down on suspected foreign interference. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
    have
    also been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now >>>>>>>>>>>>>> been executed on similar charges.

    The three men � Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rasoul � were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
    �corruption
    on Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states
    in
    favour of Israel�, according to state media.

    Iran�s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reported on Wednesday that authorities have arrested more >>>>>>>>>>>>>> than 700 people across the country on allegations of
    spying
    for Israel.

    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as >>>>>>>>>>>>> many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    Serves them right for attacking
    America the way they did.

    Back in........?


    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    what does that have to do with the people they're arresting
    now

    If they are here illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without exception.



    Even Trump has backed off that,
    realizing we NEED immigrants to do
    the dirty work Americans won't touch.


    I disagree. Set up a legal system for such workers if
    necessary but meanwhile deport them f they are not here
    legally.



    Reagan set up just such a legal system.

    And it worked.

    If it was still being followed there would be the needed
    workers and those here illegally could be deported.




    "I believe in the idea of amnesty for those
    who have put down roots and lived here, even
    though sometime back they may have entered
    illegally"
    Ronald Reagan, granting amnesty to all illegal
    immigrants, 1986


    I disagree. Illegal activity should never be ignored or
    rewarded.

    jails could hold all the offenders

    The penalty for entering the country illegally is to be
    deported along with other fines and penalties.




    "Catch and release"

    And come harvest time they will right
    back in the US, doing the jobs only they
    are willing to do.


    That was Biden. Today it is catch, fingerprint, and deport.
    And they are barred from any legal entry.


    Wrong.

    Trump himself has said that illegals
    can STAY IN AMERICA as long as they are
    working in the industries HE has a stake
    in.



    "Let them stay": Deportation changes
    for undocumented farm, hotel and
    restaurant workers
    June 17 2025

    https://www.wflx.com/2025/06/17/let-them-stay-deportation-changes- undocumented-farm-hotel-restaurant-workers/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to kBSdnbj87obw5_31nZ2dnZfqn_gAAAAA@gi on Sun Jun 29 01:03:52 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 16:27:41 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    Every
    citizen should carry identification and proof of
    citizenship. In my state it is a special mark on a driver's

    this is what you said

    Every
    citizen should carry identification and proof of
    citizenship. In my state it is a special mark on a driver's

    OK

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to kBSdnbv87oZF5_31nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@gi on Sun Jun 29 01:05:38 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 16:29:28 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 13:01:04 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:28:36 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 06:09:28 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:26:29 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:08:17 -0700, % <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:04:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, as it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cracks down on suspected foreign interference.

    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of people have
    also been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> executed on similar charges.

    The three men � Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad Rasoul
    � were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges of �corruption
    on Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> favour of Israel�, according to state media.

    Iran�s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency reported >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Wednesday that authorities have arrested more than 700 people
    across the country on allegations of spying for Israel. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as >>>>>>>>>>>>>> many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    Serves them right for attacking
    America the way they did.

    Back in........?


    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    what does that have to do with the people they're arresting now >>>>>>>>>>
    If they are here illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without exception.



    Even Trump has backed off that,
    realizing we NEED immigrants to do
    the dirty work Americans won't touch.


    I disagree. Set up a legal system for such workers if
    necessary but meanwhile deport them f they are not here
    legally.

    check your own history you're not from the usa ,
    at least your ancestors aren't they're immigrants

    So what? When they immigrated the followed the laws that
    were in effect at that time.

    If they were immigrating today they would do the same or
    enter illegally and be deported.

    you don't know what they did when they came here you weren't there

    True, but you don't know either.

    i never said i did , you did

    You clearly implied they were the equivalent of the illegals
    today. Otherwise you would not have raised the issue.

    it's your post you raised the issue ,
    i'm replying to you that's how usenet works ,
    are you new

    "check your own history you're not from the usa, at least
    your ancestors aren't they're immigrants"

    That is not my comment.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Jun 29 01:06:50 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 02:12:30 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 17:52:33 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:30:05 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:16:57 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:26:29 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:08:17 -0700, % <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:04:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 23:05:45 -0400, NefeshBarYochai >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Iran has executed three men accused of spying for Israel, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as it cracks down on suspected foreign interference. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Since Israel started bombing the country, hundreds of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
    have
    also been arrested.

    The hangings on Wednesday mean that six people have now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been executed on similar charges.

    The three men � Idris Aali, Azad Shojaei and Rasoul Ahmad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rasoul � were executed at dawn at Urmia prison on charges >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
    �corruption
    on Earth through cooperation with hostile foreign states
    in
    favour of Israel�, according to state media.

    Iran�s Revolutionary Guard-affiliated Fars news agency >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reported on Wednesday that authorities have arrested more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than 700 people across the country on allegations of
    spying
    for Israel.

    A good start. I support their arresting and executing as >>>>>>>>>>>>>> many as they can. The more the merrier.

    That just cuts the targets down.


    Serves them right for attacking
    America the way they did.

    Back in........?


    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    what does that have to do with the people they're arresting
    now

    If they are here illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without exception.



    Even Trump has backed off that,
    realizing we NEED immigrants to do
    the dirty work Americans won't touch.


    I disagree. Set up a legal system for such workers if
    necessary but meanwhile deport them f they are not here
    legally.



    Reagan set up just such a legal system.

    And it worked.

    If it was still being followed there would be the needed
    workers and those here illegally could be deported.




    "I believe in the idea of amnesty for those
    who have put down roots and lived here, even
    though sometime back they may have entered
    illegally"
    Ronald Reagan, granting amnesty to all illegal
    immigrants, 1986


    I disagree. Illegal activity should never be ignored or
    rewarded.

    jails could hold all the offenders

    The penalty for entering the country illegally is to be
    deported along with other fines and penalties.




    "Catch and release"

    And come harvest time they will right
    back in the US, doing the jobs only they
    are willing to do.


    That was Biden. Today it is catch, fingerprint, and deport.
    And they are barred from any legal entry.


    Wrong.

    Trump himself has said that illegals
    can STAY IN AMERICA as long as they are
    working in the industries HE has a stake
    in.



    "Let them stay": Deportation changes
    for undocumented farm, hotel and
    restaurant workers
    June 17 2025

    https://www.wflx.com/2025/06/17/let-them-stay-deportation-changes- >undocumented-farm-hotel-restaurant-workers/

    That is not the current law and I don't agree with
    everything Trump does.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Jun 29 01:08:26 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 01:45:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 17:59:18 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 04:12:01 -0400, Attila <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    I disagree. Set up a legal system for such workers if
    necessary but meanwhile deport them f they are not here
    legally.




    $12,500 per deportation.
    http://tinyurl.com/88u5zvx

    Times 20 million.

    Who is going to pay for THAT?


    It is cheaper than what they cost now.




    Undocumented immigrants contribute more to
    Social Security than they receive in benefits
    MAy 1

    "Immigrants overall actually help bolster
    the finances of Social Security," said
    Jack Smalligan, a senior policy fellow at
    the Urban Institute and co-author of a
    proposal to address Social Security's
    trust fund shortfall in part by increasing
    employment and family-based visas.
    "Immigrants are very important right now,
    especially as we see a very low birth rate
    among Americans. Immigrants tend to be
    younger and contribute to Social Security
    throughout their lifetime."

    Legal immigrants and many undocumented
    workers without employment authorization
    pay Social Security taxes, analyses show.
    Some undocumented immigrants use fake
    Social Security numbers or ones they may
    have had before their work permits lapsed.

    In 2022, for example, undocumented
    immigrants paid nearly $100 billion in
    federal, state and local income taxes,
    including nearly $26 billion in Social
    Security taxes and $6.4 billion in
    Medicare taxes, according to the
    Institute on Taxation and Economic
    Policy, a left-leaning think tank.
    (The report takes into account both
    employer and employee contributions
    to Social Security and Medicare taxes.)

    "The federal government is essentially
    receiving free money from these
    undocumented immigrants," said Marco
    Guzman, senior analyst at the institute.
    "They are contributing to a system they
    will not benefit from. Who is benefiting?
    It's American citizens."

    For instance, the surge of immigrants
    in recent years is expected to boost
    Social Security's revenues by $348
    billion between 2024 and 2034,
    according to a Congressional Budget
    Office analysis released last year.
    Over the same period, these folks
    will collect only about $1 billion,
    the CBO projected.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/01/politics/undocumented-immigrants- >social-security


    You are saying illegal provide an overall profit for the US?

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Jun 29 01:12:03 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 01:58:43 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 13:12:51 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 02:01:59 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:18:45 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage. >>>>>>>>>>>
    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational about >>>Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone
    should tell them that is not how to make friends with us.



    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they�re great letters.
    We fell in love." >>>>>>>https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/


    He is basically a real estate salesman.


    He is a huckster and con artist
    and a convicted felon.

    Under appeal. Or was that dropped? I have lost count.



    Why do you support this crook?

    He is not a crook, he does what he says he will do, and I
    agree with most of what he does.



    LOL!

    Did Trump lower prices, as he promised?

    Did he lock up Hillary, as he promised?

    Did he "make Mexico pay for it", as he promised?

    Did he release his taxes, as he promised?

    Did he "build the wall", as he promised?

    Did he eliminate the federal debt, as he promised?

    Did he "appoint only the best", as he promised?

    Did he end the Ukraine war, as he promised?

    Did he stay faithful to ANY of his wives, as he promised?


    He makes fewer political promises than most, he frequently
    does exactly what he says he will do, his personal life and
    personal choices have nothing to do with being President,
    and while I don't agree with everything he does I agree with
    more of them than with any other president in my lifetime.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Jun 29 01:13:43 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 01:40:00 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 11:49:58 -0700, algorithmic behavior
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with
    message-id <pPW7Q.2120$[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/27/2025 5:28 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:18:45 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational about >>>>>>>>> Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone
    should tell them that is not how to make friends with us.



    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they�re great letters.
    We fell in love."
    https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/


    He is basically a real estate salesman.

    He is not a real estate salesman, you fucking idiot. He's a real
    estate investor, and not a particularly astute one.

    He is worth more than you are.


    And he made his first million the
    old fashioned way - as a graduation
    present from Daddykins.

    Are we supposed to be impressed
    by that?


    I am sure nothing Trump does will impress you. That's OK. I
    feel the same way about liberals and progressives.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Sun Jun 29 13:30:38 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 01:40:00 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 11:49:58 -0700, algorithmic behavior
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with
    message-id <pPW7Q.2120$[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/27/2025 5:28 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:18:45 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage.

    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational about >>>>>>>>>> Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone
    should tell them that is not how to make friends with us.



    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they�re great letters.
    We fell in love."
    https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/


    He is basically a real estate salesman.

    He is not a real estate salesman, you fucking idiot. He's a real
    estate investor, and not a particularly astute one.

    He is worth more than you are.


    And he made his first million the
    old fashioned way - as a graduation
    present from Daddykins.

    Are we supposed to be impressed
    by that?


    I am sure nothing Trump does will impress you.


    What has he done that is impressive?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Sun Jun 29 13:35:27 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 01:45:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 17:59:18 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 04:12:01 -0400, Attila <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    I disagree. Set up a legal system for such workers if
    necessary but meanwhile deport them f they are not here
    legally.




    $12,500 per deportation.
    http://tinyurl.com/88u5zvx

    Times 20 million.

    Who is going to pay for THAT?


    It is cheaper than what they cost now.




    Undocumented immigrants contribute more to
    Social Security than they receive in benefits
    MAy 1

    "Immigrants overall actually help bolster
    the finances of Social Security," said
    Jack Smalligan, a senior policy fellow at
    the Urban Institute and co-author of a
    proposal to address Social Security's
    trust fund shortfall in part by increasing
    employment and family-based visas.
    "Immigrants are very important right now,
    especially as we see a very low birth rate
    among Americans. Immigrants tend to be
    younger and contribute to Social Security
    throughout their lifetime."

    Legal immigrants and many undocumented
    workers without employment authorization
    pay Social Security taxes, analyses show.
    Some undocumented immigrants use fake
    Social Security numbers or ones they may
    have had before their work permits lapsed.

    In 2022, for example, undocumented
    immigrants paid nearly $100 billion in
    federal, state and local income taxes,
    including nearly $26 billion in Social
    Security taxes and $6.4 billion in
    Medicare taxes, according to the
    Institute on Taxation and Economic
    Policy, a left-leaning think tank.
    (The report takes into account both
    employer and employee contributions
    to Social Security and Medicare taxes.)

    "The federal government is essentially
    receiving free money from these
    undocumented immigrants," said Marco
    Guzman, senior analyst at the institute.
    "They are contributing to a system they
    will not benefit from. Who is benefiting?
    It's American citizens."

    For instance, the surge of immigrants
    in recent years is expected to boost
    Social Security's revenues by $348
    billion between 2024 and 2034,
    according to a Congressional Budget
    Office analysis released last year.
    Over the same period, these folks
    will collect only about $1 billion,
    the CBO projected.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/01/politics/undocumented-immigrants- >>social-security


    You are saying illegal provide an overall profit for the US?



    That's right.




    Economic benefits of illegal immigration
    outweigh the costs
    May 18, 2020

    The economic benefits of illegal immigration
    are greater than the costs of the public
    services utilized, according to an expert at
    Rice University�s Baker Institute for Public
    Policy.

    Indeed, for every dollar the Texas state
    government spends on public services for
    undocumented immigrants, new research
    indicates, the state collects $1.21 in
    revenue.

    "Undocumented residents have a positive
    influence and impact on the economy,
    since they pay taxes and fees and
    constitute an important part of the labor
    market. Even if we consider the costs of
    undocumented immigrants to the state of
    Texas, the benefits outweigh the costs."

    In 2018, the year on which the report
    is based, Texas had "an estimated
    1.6 million undocumented residents,
    representing 5.7% of the total state
    population," according to the paper.
    Those residents support the economy by
    working in industries such as
    construction, agriculture, manufacturing
    and services � with an unemployment rate
    of only 5.7% in the state, according to
    the paper. They pay sales tax and
    consumer taxes, such as on gasoline and
    motor vehicle inspections.

    In fiscal year 2018, Texas collected
    $2.4 billion in state taxes from this
    group.

    "Like any other Texan, undocumented
    immigrants pay sales and excise taxes
    when they buy goods and services," he
    wrote. "They pay property taxes on
    their owned or rented houses. Other
    payments that undocumented immigrants
    make to the state are related to fees
    and fines, tuition and utilities."

    The analysis found that illegal
    immigration cost Texas a total of
    $2 billion in 2018 through education,
    health care and incarceration costs.
    These include costs associated with
    public schools, higher education,
    substance abuse services, immunizations
    and emergency health care.

    Rodr�guez-S�nchez also analyzed the
    potential impact of deporting all such
    residents from Texas. �In this case,
    deportation would represent a shock to
    the Texan economy,� he wrote.

    "If all undocumented workers were
    deported, Texas would lose more than
    $41.9 billion in direct employment
    compensation, defined as pretax salary
    and wage earnings. The total lost would
    be $70.3 billion, which represents a
    reduction of 7.7% in state employment
    compensation,� he wrote. �If even 20%
    of this group were deported, the state
    would lose approximately $8.4 billion
    in direct employee compensation, and
    the total impact would be $14 billion."

    The report estimates that tax revenue
    collected from such residents exceeded
    what the state spent on them, resulting
    in a net benefit of approximately
    $420.9 million in fiscal year 2018.

    "This means that for every dollar spent
    on public services for undocumented
    immigrants, they provide $1.21 in fiscal
    revenue for the state of Texas,"
    Rodriguez-Sanchez wrote.
    https://tinyurl.com/536na78h

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Sun Jun 29 13:47:24 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 01:58:43 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 13:12:51 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 02:01:59 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:18:45 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational about >>>>Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone
    should tell them that is not how to make friends with us. >>>>>>>>>>>


    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they�re great letters.
    We fell in love." >>>>>>>>https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/


    He is basically a real estate salesman.


    He is a huckster and con artist
    and a convicted felon.

    Under appeal. Or was that dropped? I have lost count.



    Why do you support this crook?

    He is not a crook, he does what he says he will do, and I
    agree with most of what he does.



    LOL!

    Did Trump lower prices, as he promised?

    Did he lock up Hillary, as he promised?

    Did he "make Mexico pay for it", as he promised?

    Did he release his taxes, as he promised?

    Did he "build the wall", as he promised?

    Did he eliminate the federal debt, as he promised?

    Did he "appoint only the best", as he promised?

    Did he end the Ukraine war, as he promised?

    Did he stay faithful to ANY of his wives, as he promised?


    He makes fewer political promises than most, he frequently
    does exactly what he says he will do, his personal life and
    personal choices have nothing to do with being President,
    and while I don't agree with everything he does I agree with
    more of them than with any other president in my lifetime.



    TRump is a snake oil salesman, telling
    the public whatever they need to hear to buy
    his product.

    He is for EV's, he is against EV's, he
    is for Tiktok, he is against Tiktok, he is
    for cryptocurrency, he is against cryptocurrency,
    he is for deporting immigrants, he is against
    deporting immigrants, he for importing Chinese
    goods, he is against importing Chinese goods,
    he is for importing workers, he ia against
    importing workers.

    Whatever the gullible public needs to hear
    he will tell them.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sun Jun 29 10:41:34 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Mitchell Holman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    <snip>

    In 2018, the year on which the report
    is based, Texas had "an estimated
    1.6 million undocumented residents,
    representing 5.7% of the total state
    population," according to the paper.

    Texas, a sanctuary state!

    Those residents support the economy by
    working in industries such as
    construction, agriculture, manufacturing
    and services — with an unemployment rate
    of only 5.7% in the state, according to
    the paper. They pay sales tax and
    consumer taxes, such as on gasoline and
    motor vehicle inspections.
    <snip>

    --
    learning curve, n.:
    An astonishing new theory, discovered by management consultants
    in the 1970's, asserting that the more you do something the
    quicker you can do it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to 7vmcnUlp5vzI0Pz1nZ2dnZfqnPEAAAAA@gi on Sun Jun 29 15:17:07 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 07:26:58 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 16:27:41 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    Every
    citizen should carry identification and proof of
    citizenship. In my state it is a special mark on a driver's

    this is what you said

    Every
    citizen should carry identification and proof of
    citizenship. In my state it is a special mark on a driver's

    OK

    well you said it

    It is true. There is such a mark. I needed to provide a
    birth certificate to receive it.

    Those who do not have such certificates would need other
    documentation.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to 7vmcnUtp5vzR0_z1nZ2dnZfqnPEAAAAA@gi on Sun Jun 29 15:21:14 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 07:31:06 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 01:58:43 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 13:12:51 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 02:01:59 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:18:45 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational about >>>>> Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone >>>>>>>>>>>> should tell them that is not how to make friends with us. >>>>>>>>>>>>


    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they�re great letters.
    We fell in love."
    https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/


    He is basically a real estate salesman.


    He is a huckster and con artist
    and a convicted felon.

    Under appeal. Or was that dropped? I have lost count.



    Why do you support this crook?

    He is not a crook, he does what he says he will do, and I
    agree with most of what he does.



    LOL!

    Did Trump lower prices, as he promised?

    Did he lock up Hillary, as he promised?

    Did he "make Mexico pay for it", as he promised?

    Did he release his taxes, as he promised?

    Did he "build the wall", as he promised?

    Did he eliminate the federal debt, as he promised?

    Did he "appoint only the best", as he promised?

    Did he end the Ukraine war, as he promised?

    Did he stay faithful to ANY of his wives, as he promised?


    He makes fewer political promises than most, he frequently
    does exactly what he says he will do, his personal life and
    personal choices have nothing to do with being President,
    and while I don't agree with everything he does I agree with
    more of them than with any other president in my lifetime.

    so you're 8 years old then

    Add a zero and a bit more.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Jun 29 15:19:22 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 13:35:27 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 01:45:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 17:59:18 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 04:12:01 -0400, Attila <[email protected]> >>>wrote:

    I disagree. Set up a legal system for such workers if
    necessary but meanwhile deport them f they are not here
    legally.




    $12,500 per deportation.
    http://tinyurl.com/88u5zvx

    Times 20 million.

    Who is going to pay for THAT?


    It is cheaper than what they cost now.




    Undocumented immigrants contribute more to
    Social Security than they receive in benefits
    MAy 1

    "Immigrants overall actually help bolster
    the finances of Social Security," said
    Jack Smalligan, a senior policy fellow at
    the Urban Institute and co-author of a
    proposal to address Social Security's
    trust fund shortfall in part by increasing
    employment and family-based visas.
    "Immigrants are very important right now,
    especially as we see a very low birth rate
    among Americans. Immigrants tend to be
    younger and contribute to Social Security
    throughout their lifetime."

    Legal immigrants and many undocumented
    workers without employment authorization
    pay Social Security taxes, analyses show.
    Some undocumented immigrants use fake
    Social Security numbers or ones they may
    have had before their work permits lapsed.

    In 2022, for example, undocumented
    immigrants paid nearly $100 billion in
    federal, state and local income taxes,
    including nearly $26 billion in Social
    Security taxes and $6.4 billion in
    Medicare taxes, according to the
    Institute on Taxation and Economic
    Policy, a left-leaning think tank.
    (The report takes into account both
    employer and employee contributions
    to Social Security and Medicare taxes.)

    "The federal government is essentially
    receiving free money from these
    undocumented immigrants," said Marco
    Guzman, senior analyst at the institute.
    "They are contributing to a system they
    will not benefit from. Who is benefiting?
    It's American citizens."

    For instance, the surge of immigrants
    in recent years is expected to boost
    Social Security's revenues by $348
    billion between 2024 and 2034,
    according to a Congressional Budget
    Office analysis released last year.
    Over the same period, these folks
    will collect only about $1 billion,
    the CBO projected.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/01/politics/undocumented-immigrants- >>>social-security


    You are saying illegal provide an overall profit for the US?



    That's right.




    Economic benefits of illegal immigration
    outweigh the costs
    May 18, 2020

    The economic benefits of illegal immigration
    are greater than the costs of the public
    services utilized, according to an expert at
    Rice University�s Baker Institute for Public
    Policy.

    Indeed, for every dollar the Texas state
    government spends on public services for
    undocumented immigrants, new research
    indicates, the state collects $1.21 in
    revenue.

    "Undocumented residents have a positive
    influence and impact on the economy,
    since they pay taxes and fees and
    constitute an important part of the labor
    market. Even if we consider the costs of
    undocumented immigrants to the state of
    Texas, the benefits outweigh the costs."

    In 2018, the year on which the report
    is based, Texas had "an estimated
    1.6 million undocumented residents,
    representing 5.7% of the total state
    population," according to the paper.
    Those residents support the economy by
    working in industries such as
    construction, agriculture, manufacturing
    and services � with an unemployment rate
    of only 5.7% in the state, according to
    the paper. They pay sales tax and
    consumer taxes, such as on gasoline and
    motor vehicle inspections.

    In fiscal year 2018, Texas collected
    $2.4 billion in state taxes from this
    group.

    "Like any other Texan, undocumented
    immigrants pay sales and excise taxes
    when they buy goods and services," he
    wrote. "They pay property taxes on
    their owned or rented houses. Other
    payments that undocumented immigrants
    make to the state are related to fees
    and fines, tuition and utilities."

    The analysis found that illegal
    immigration cost Texas a total of
    $2 billion in 2018 through education,
    health care and incarceration costs.
    These include costs associated with
    public schools, higher education,
    substance abuse services, immunizations
    and emergency health care.

    Rodr�guez-S�nchez also analyzed the
    potential impact of deporting all such
    residents from Texas. �In this case,
    deportation would represent a shock to
    the Texan economy,� he wrote.

    "If all undocumented workers were
    deported, Texas would lose more than
    $41.9 billion in direct employment
    compensation, defined as pretax salary
    and wage earnings. The total lost would
    be $70.3 billion, which represents a
    reduction of 7.7% in state employment
    compensation,� he wrote. �If even 20%
    of this group were deported, the state
    would lose approximately $8.4 billion
    in direct employee compensation, and
    the total impact would be $14 billion."

    The report estimates that tax revenue
    collected from such residents exceeded
    what the state spent on them, resulting
    in a net benefit of approximately
    $420.9 million in fiscal year 2018.

    "This means that for every dollar spent
    on public services for undocumented
    immigrants, they provide $1.21 in fiscal
    revenue for the state of Texas,"
    Rodriguez-Sanchez wrote.
    https://tinyurl.com/536na78h


    There is more to the US than Texas.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Jun 29 15:20:26 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 13:47:24 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 01:58:43 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 13:12:51 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 02:01:59 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:18:45 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational about >>>>>Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone >>>>>>>>>>>> should tell them that is not how to make friends with us. >>>>>>>>>>>>


    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they�re great letters.
    We fell in love." >>>>>>>>>https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/


    He is basically a real estate salesman.


    He is a huckster and con artist
    and a convicted felon.

    Under appeal. Or was that dropped? I have lost count.



    Why do you support this crook?

    He is not a crook, he does what he says he will do, and I
    agree with most of what he does.



    LOL!

    Did Trump lower prices, as he promised?

    Did he lock up Hillary, as he promised?

    Did he "make Mexico pay for it", as he promised?

    Did he release his taxes, as he promised?

    Did he "build the wall", as he promised?

    Did he eliminate the federal debt, as he promised?

    Did he "appoint only the best", as he promised?

    Did he end the Ukraine war, as he promised?

    Did he stay faithful to ANY of his wives, as he promised?


    He makes fewer political promises than most, he frequently
    does exactly what he says he will do, his personal life and
    personal choices have nothing to do with being President,
    and while I don't agree with everything he does I agree with
    more of them than with any other president in my lifetime.



    TRump is a snake oil salesman, telling
    the public whatever they need to hear to buy
    his product.

    He is for EV's, he is against EV's, he
    is for Tiktok, he is against Tiktok, he is
    for cryptocurrency, he is against cryptocurrency,
    he is for deporting immigrants, he is against
    deporting immigrants, he for importing Chinese
    goods, he is against importing Chinese goods,
    he is for importing workers, he ia against
    importing workers.

    Whatever the gullible public needs to hear
    he will tell them.


    TDS in full flight.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Jun 29 15:22:36 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 13:30:38 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 01:40:00 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 11:49:58 -0700, algorithmic behavior
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with
    message-id <pPW7Q.2120$[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/27/2025 5:28 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:18:45 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage. >>>>>>>>>>>
    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational about >>>>>>>>>>> Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone
    should tell them that is not how to make friends with us.



    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they�re great letters.
    We fell in love."
    https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/


    He is basically a real estate salesman.

    He is not a real estate salesman, you fucking idiot. He's a real >>>>>estate investor, and not a particularly astute one.

    He is worth more than you are.


    And he made his first million the
    old fashioned way - as a graduation
    present from Daddykins.

    Are we supposed to be impressed
    by that?


    I am sure nothing Trump does will impress you.


    What has he done that is impressive?

    He was not elected to be impressive but to be effective. I
    like most of what he has done.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to Attila on Sun Jun 29 13:06:10 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 6/29/2025 12:20 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 13:47:24 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 01:58:43 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 13:12:51 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 02:01:59 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:18:45 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>>>>>>>>>>> <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational about >>>>>> Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone >>>>>>>>>>>>> should tell them that is not how to make friends with us. >>>>>>>>>>>>>


    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they’re great letters.
    We fell in love."
    https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/


    He is basically a real estate salesman.


    He is a huckster and con artist
    and a convicted felon.

    Under appeal. Or was that dropped? I have lost count.



    Why do you support this crook?

    He is not a crook, he does what he says he will do, and I
    agree with most of what he does.



    LOL!

    Did Trump lower prices, as he promised?

    Did he lock up Hillary, as he promised?

    Did he "make Mexico pay for it", as he promised?

    Did he release his taxes, as he promised?

    Did he "build the wall", as he promised?

    Did he eliminate the federal debt, as he promised?

    Did he "appoint only the best", as he promised?

    Did he end the Ukraine war, as he promised?

    Did he stay faithful to ANY of his wives, as he promised?


    He makes fewer political promises than most, he frequently
    does exactly what he says he will do, his personal life and
    personal choices have nothing to do with being President,
    and while I don't agree with everything he does I agree with
    more of them than with any other president in my lifetime.



    TRump is a snake oil salesman, telling
    the public whatever they need to hear to buy
    his product.

    He is for EV's, he is against EV's, he
    is for Tiktok, he is against Tiktok, he is
    for cryptocurrency, he is against cryptocurrency,
    he is for deporting immigrants, he is against
    deporting immigrants, he for importing Chinese
    goods, he is against importing Chinese goods,
    he is for importing workers, he ia against
    importing workers.

    Whatever the gullible public needs to hear
    he will tell them.


    TDS in full flight.
    TDS is real, but it isn't what you lie and call it. It is the name of the mental
    affliction that affects pro-Trump people — the Trumpswabs, aka Nazi cultists —
    and leaves them incapable of seeing that Trump is:

    * the most thoroughly corrupt president in history
    * a totally abject failure as a businessman
    * a serial adulterer
    * a rapist
    * a convicted felon
    * an insurrectionist
    * utterly lawless
    * the worst threat to the Constitution in history

    and thus wholly unfit for office. All of those things are true, and that's only the start of a long list. TDS is the mental debility that leaves people either unable to see it, or so thoroughly lacking in character that they just overlook it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Delvin Benet@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 29 13:08:12 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 6/29/2025 12:22 PM, Attila, subhuman Nazi filth, lied:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 13:30:38 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 01:40:00 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 11:49:58 -0700, algorithmic behavior
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with
    message-id <pPW7Q.2120$[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/27/2025 5:28 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:18:45 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational about >>>>>>>>>>>> Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone
    should tell them that is not how to make friends with us. >>>>>>>>>>>


    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they’re great letters.
    We fell in love."
    https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/


    He is basically a real estate salesman.

    He is not a real estate salesman, you fucking idiot. He's a real
    estate investor, and not a particularly astute one.

    He is worth more than you are.


    And he made his first million the
    old fashioned way - as a graduation
    present from Daddykins.

    Are we supposed to be impressed
    by that?


    I am sure nothing Trump does will impress you.


    What has he done that is impressive?

    He was not elected to be impressive but to be effective. I
    like most of what he has done.
    You would, because he has done mostly Nazi police state bullshit, and you are subhuman Nazi filth. He has done nothing good for America and real Americans.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Al Feldhauser@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 29 13:07:13 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 6/29/2025 12:21 PM, Attila, subhuman Nazi filth, lied:
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 07:31:06 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 01:58:43 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 13:12:51 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 02:01:59 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:18:45 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>>>>>>>>>>> <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational about >>>>>> Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone >>>>>>>>>>>>> should tell them that is not how to make friends with us. >>>>>>>>>>>>>


    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they’re great letters.
    We fell in love."
    https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/


    He is basically a real estate salesman.


    He is a huckster and con artist
    and a convicted felon.

    Under appeal. Or was that dropped? I have lost count.



    Why do you support this crook?

    He is not a crook, he does what he says he will do, and I
    agree with most of what he does.



    LOL!

    Did Trump lower prices, as he promised?

    Did he lock up Hillary, as he promised?

    Did he "make Mexico pay for it", as he promised?

    Did he release his taxes, as he promised?

    Did he "build the wall", as he promised?

    Did he eliminate the federal debt, as he promised?

    Did he "appoint only the best", as he promised?

    Did he end the Ukraine war, as he promised?

    Did he stay faithful to ANY of his wives, as he promised?


    He makes fewer political promises than most, he frequently
    does exactly what he says he will do, his personal life and
    personal choices have nothing to do with being President,
    and while I don't agree with everything he does I agree with
    more of them than with any other president in my lifetime.

    so you're 8 years old then

    Add a zero and a bit more.
    Chronologically, but mentally, you're an eight-year-old.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sun Jun 29 18:41:54 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 6/29/2025 6:37 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 13:30:38 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 01:40:00 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 11:49:58 -0700, algorithmic behavior
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with
    message-id <pPW7Q.2120$[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/27/2025 5:28 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:18:45 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational
    about
    Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone >>>>>>>>>>>> should tell them that is not how to make friends with us. >>>>>>>>>>>>


    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they’re great letters.
    We fell in love."
    https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/


    He is basically a real estate salesman.

    He is not a real estate salesman, you fucking idiot. He's a real >>>>>>> estate investor, and not a particularly astute one.

    He is worth more than you are.


    And he made his first million the
    old fashioned way - as a graduation
    present from Daddykins.

    Are we supposed to be impressed
    by that?


    I am sure nothing Trump does will impress you.


    What has he done that is impressive?

    He was not elected to be impressive but to be effective. I
    like most of what he has done.



    Like what?
    Are you kidding? "Attila" is as racist and Nazi as they come. He likes Trump's campaign of utter cruelty against brown skinned residents, *including* citizens.
    That's what he likes. That's *all* he likes.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Mon Jun 30 01:35:25 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 13:35:27 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 01:45:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 17:59:18 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 04:12:01 -0400, Attila <[email protected]> >>>>wrote:

    I disagree. Set up a legal system for such workers if >>>>>>>>necessary but meanwhile deport them f they are not here >>>>>>>>legally.




    $12,500 per deportation.
    http://tinyurl.com/88u5zvx

    Times 20 million.

    Who is going to pay for THAT?


    It is cheaper than what they cost now.




    Undocumented immigrants contribute more to
    Social Security than they receive in benefits
    MAy 1

    "Immigrants overall actually help bolster
    the finances of Social Security," said
    Jack Smalligan, a senior policy fellow at
    the Urban Institute and co-author of a
    proposal to address Social Security's
    trust fund shortfall in part by increasing
    employment and family-based visas.
    "Immigrants are very important right now,
    especially as we see a very low birth rate
    among Americans. Immigrants tend to be
    younger and contribute to Social Security
    throughout their lifetime."

    Legal immigrants and many undocumented
    workers without employment authorization
    pay Social Security taxes, analyses show.
    Some undocumented immigrants use fake
    Social Security numbers or ones they may
    have had before their work permits lapsed.

    In 2022, for example, undocumented
    immigrants paid nearly $100 billion in
    federal, state and local income taxes,
    including nearly $26 billion in Social
    Security taxes and $6.4 billion in
    Medicare taxes, according to the
    Institute on Taxation and Economic
    Policy, a left-leaning think tank.
    (The report takes into account both
    employer and employee contributions
    to Social Security and Medicare taxes.)

    "The federal government is essentially
    receiving free money from these
    undocumented immigrants," said Marco
    Guzman, senior analyst at the institute.
    "They are contributing to a system they
    will not benefit from. Who is benefiting?
    It's American citizens."

    For instance, the surge of immigrants
    in recent years is expected to boost
    Social Security's revenues by $348
    billion between 2024 and 2034,
    according to a Congressional Budget
    Office analysis released last year.
    Over the same period, these folks
    will collect only about $1 billion,
    the CBO projected.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/01/politics/undocumented-immigrants- >>>>social-security


    You are saying illegal provide an overall profit for the US?



    That's right.




    Economic benefits of illegal immigration
    outweigh the costs
    May 18, 2020

    The economic benefits of illegal immigration
    are greater than the costs of the public
    services utilized, according to an expert at
    Rice University�s Baker Institute for Public
    Policy.

    Indeed, for every dollar the Texas state
    government spends on public services for
    undocumented immigrants, new research
    indicates, the state collects $1.21 in
    revenue.

    "Undocumented residents have a positive
    influence and impact on the economy,
    since they pay taxes and fees and
    constitute an important part of the labor
    market. Even if we consider the costs of
    undocumented immigrants to the state of
    Texas, the benefits outweigh the costs."

    In 2018, the year on which the report
    is based, Texas had "an estimated
    1.6 million undocumented residents,
    representing 5.7% of the total state
    population," according to the paper.
    Those residents support the economy by
    working in industries such as
    construction, agriculture, manufacturing
    and services � with an unemployment rate
    of only 5.7% in the state, according to
    the paper. They pay sales tax and
    consumer taxes, such as on gasoline and
    motor vehicle inspections.

    In fiscal year 2018, Texas collected
    $2.4 billion in state taxes from this
    group.

    "Like any other Texan, undocumented
    immigrants pay sales and excise taxes
    when they buy goods and services," he
    wrote. "They pay property taxes on
    their owned or rented houses. Other
    payments that undocumented immigrants
    make to the state are related to fees
    and fines, tuition and utilities."

    The analysis found that illegal
    immigration cost Texas a total of
    $2 billion in 2018 through education,
    health care and incarceration costs.
    These include costs associated with
    public schools, higher education,
    substance abuse services, immunizations
    and emergency health care.

    Rodr�guez-S�nchez also analyzed the
    potential impact of deporting all such
    residents from Texas. �In this case,
    deportation would represent a shock to
    the Texan economy,� he wrote.

    "If all undocumented workers were
    deported, Texas would lose more than
    $41.9 billion in direct employment
    compensation, defined as pretax salary
    and wage earnings. The total lost would
    be $70.3 billion, which represents a
    reduction of 7.7% in state employment
    compensation,� he wrote. �If even 20%
    of this group were deported, the state
    would lose approximately $8.4 billion
    in direct employee compensation, and
    the total impact would be $14 billion."

    The report estimates that tax revenue
    collected from such residents exceeded
    what the state spent on them, resulting
    in a net benefit of approximately
    $420.9 million in fiscal year 2018.

    "This means that for every dollar spent
    on public services for undocumented
    immigrants, they provide $1.21 in fiscal
    revenue for the state of Texas,"
    Rodriguez-Sanchez wrote.
    https://tinyurl.com/536na78h


    There is more to the US than Texas.



    There is more to the immigration issue
    than just "kick them all out".

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Mon Jun 30 01:37:38 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 13:30:38 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 01:40:00 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 11:49:58 -0700, algorithmic behavior
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with
    message-id <pPW7Q.2120$[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/27/2025 5:28 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:18:45 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational
    about
    Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone
    should tell them that is not how to make friends with us. >>>>>>>>>>>


    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they�re great letters.
    We fell in love."
    https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/


    He is basically a real estate salesman.

    He is not a real estate salesman, you fucking idiot. He's a real >>>>>>estate investor, and not a particularly astute one.

    He is worth more than you are.


    And he made his first million the
    old fashioned way - as a graduation
    present from Daddykins.

    Are we supposed to be impressed
    by that?


    I am sure nothing Trump does will impress you.


    What has he done that is impressive?

    He was not elected to be impressive but to be effective. I
    like most of what he has done.



    Like what?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Jun 30 05:36:03 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 01:35:25 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    There is more to the US than Texas.



    There is more to the immigration issue
    than just "kick them all out".

    Of course there is. It is the illegals that should be
    kicked out. Those here legally can stay as long as they
    remain legal.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to cr6cnUbjirKzLvz1nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@gi on Mon Jun 30 05:33:36 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 14:41:49 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 07:26:58 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 16:27:41 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    Every
    citizen should carry identification and proof of
    citizenship. In my state it is a special mark on a driver's

    this is what you said

    Every
    citizen should carry identification and proof of
    citizenship. In my state it is a special mark on a driver's

    OK

    well you said it

    It is true. There is such a mark. I needed to provide a
    birth certificate to receive it.

    Those who do not have such certificates would need other
    documentation.

    no they wouldn't

    Why not?

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Jun 30 05:41:20 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 01:37:38 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 13:30:38 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 01:40:00 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 11:49:58 -0700, algorithmic behavior
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with
    message-id <pPW7Q.2120$[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/27/2025 5:28 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:18:45 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational
    about
    Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone >>>>>>>>>>>> should tell them that is not how to make friends with us. >>>>>>>>>>>>


    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they�re great letters.
    We fell in love."
    https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/


    He is basically a real estate salesman.

    He is not a real estate salesman, you fucking idiot. He's a real >>>>>>>estate investor, and not a particularly astute one.

    He is worth more than you are.


    And he made his first million the
    old fashioned way - as a graduation
    present from Daddykins.

    Are we supposed to be impressed
    by that?


    I am sure nothing Trump does will impress you.


    What has he done that is impressive?

    He was not elected to be impressive but to be effective. I
    like most of what he has done.



    Like what?


    Stopping and deporting illegals. Possibly ending birthright
    citizenship. Restricting the power of local judges,
    Reducing unnecessary spending and waste. Reducing the
    bureaucracy.

    Do you need more?

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Mon Jun 30 12:58:17 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 01:37:38 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 13:30:38 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 01:40:00 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 11:49:58 -0700, algorithmic behavior
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with
    message-id <pPW7Q.2120$[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/27/2025 5:28 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:18:45 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>>>>>>>>>>> <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational
    about
    Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone >>>>>>>>>>>>> should tell them that is not how to make friends with us. >>>>>>>>>>>>>


    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they�re great letters.
    We fell in love."
    https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/


    He is basically a real estate salesman.

    He is not a real estate salesman, you fucking idiot. He's a real >>>>>>>>estate investor, and not a particularly astute one.

    He is worth more than you are.


    And he made his first million the
    old fashioned way - as a graduation
    present from Daddykins.

    Are we supposed to be impressed
    by that?


    I am sure nothing Trump does will impress you.


    What has he done that is impressive?

    He was not elected to be impressive but to be effective. I
    like most of what he has done.



    Like what?


    Stopping and deporting illegals.


    And who will do their jobs?


    Possibly ending birthright
    citizenship.


    Prove you are citizen without it.



    Restricting the power of local judges,


    By doing what?





    Reducing unnecessary spending and waste.


    Like spending a BILLION on
    TRump "flying golden palace"?


    Reducing the bureaucracy.


    Except when you NEED that bureaucracy.




    Modern Conservative: Someone who take time out
    from complaining that government is too big and
    cutbacks are overdue to ask why there is only
    one line open at the DMV and why aren't there
    more people working there.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Mon Jun 30 12:51:37 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 01:35:25 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    There is more to the US than Texas.



    There is more to the immigration issue
    than just "kick them all out".

    Of course there is. It is the illegals that should be
    kicked out.



    OK, have it your way, kick out
    every illegal at huge expense.

    Then what?




    Crops left to rot: A Trump-voting farmer's
    warning - mass deportations would be a disaster
    Wed 22 Jan 2025
    https://tinyurl.com/t8bdyz7t



    Ag labor shortages cost state economy as much as $11.7B
    Nov. 27, 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/nvud928v



    Yuma agriculture labor shortage leading to increased imports
    Feb 15 2025
    https://tinyurl.com/233e6cve



    Kern County immigration sweep halts citrus harvest
    January 16, 2025
    https://tinyurl.com/5espt94m



    Farm Labor Shortage Leaves $13 Million in Food
    to Rot in Fields
    July 35 2017
    https://tinyurl.com/2hbu2ujt



    California Crops Rot as Immigration Crackdown
    Creates Farmworker Shortage
    August 8, 2017

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Attila@21:1/5 to YcidnZ6AUOyNMP_1nZ2dnZfqn_UAAAAA@gi on Mon Jun 30 11:52:32 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 08:28:25 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 14:41:49 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 07:26:58 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 16:27:41 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    Every
    citizen should carry identification and proof of
    citizenship. In my state it is a special mark on a driver's

    this is what you said

    Every
    citizen should carry identification and proof of
    citizenship. In my state it is a special mark on a driver's

    OK

    well you said it

    It is true. There is such a mark. I needed to provide a
    birth certificate to receive it.

    Those who do not have such certificates would need other
    documentation.

    no they wouldn't

    Why not?

    because new borns don't travel with papers

    Such things are the responsibility of their parents or
    guardians. That is why our society requires every minor
    must have an adult responsible for them.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Jun 30 11:53:31 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:51:37 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 01:35:25 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    There is more to the US than Texas.



    There is more to the immigration issue
    than just "kick them all out".

    Of course there is. It is the illegals that should be
    kicked out.



    OK, have it your way, kick out
    every illegal at huge expense.

    Then what?

    Then fix the immigration laws.





    Crops left to rot: A Trump-voting farmer's
    warning - mass deportations would be a disaster
    Wed 22 Jan 2025
    https://tinyurl.com/t8bdyz7t



    Ag labor shortages cost state economy as much as $11.7B
    Nov. 27, 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/nvud928v



    Yuma agriculture labor shortage leading to increased imports
    Feb 15 2025
    https://tinyurl.com/233e6cve



    Kern County immigration sweep halts citrus harvest
    January 16, 2025
    https://tinyurl.com/5espt94m



    Farm Labor Shortage Leaves $13 Million in Food
    to Rot in Fields
    July 35 2017
    https://tinyurl.com/2hbu2ujt



    California Crops Rot as Immigration Crackdown
    Creates Farmworker Shortage
    August 8, 2017

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to MIKcnZkzU5gSLP_1nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@gi on Mon Jun 30 11:54:04 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 08:47:37 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 01:35:25 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    There is more to the US than Texas.



    There is more to the immigration issue
    than just "kick them all out".

    Of course there is. It is the illegals that should be
    kicked out. Those here legally can stay as long as they
    remain legal.

    so when are you leaving

    I am here legally and can prove it.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to MIKcnZgzU5g7LP_1nZ2dnZfqnPcAAAAA@gi on Mon Jun 30 12:03:44 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 08:48:00 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    He was not elected to be impressive but to be effective. I
    like most of what he has done.



    Like what?


    Stopping and deporting illegals. Possibly ending birthright
    citizenship. Restricting the power of local judges,
    Reducing unnecessary spending and waste. Reducing the
    bureaucracy.

    Do you need more?

    yes

    I have listed a sufficient number. I have better things to
    do.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Jun 30 12:01:51 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:58:17 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 01:37:38 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 13:30:38 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 01:40:00 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 11:49:58 -0700, algorithmic behavior
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with
    message-id <pPW7Q.2120$[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/27/2025 5:28 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:18:45 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu"
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational >>>about
    Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone >>>>>>>>>>>>>> should tell them that is not how to make friends with us. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>


    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they�re great letters.
    We fell in love."
    https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/


    He is basically a real estate salesman.

    He is not a real estate salesman, you fucking idiot. He's a real >>>>>>>>>estate investor, and not a particularly astute one.

    He is worth more than you are.


    And he made his first million the
    old fashioned way - as a graduation
    present from Daddykins.

    Are we supposed to be impressed
    by that?


    I am sure nothing Trump does will impress you.


    What has he done that is impressive?

    He was not elected to be impressive but to be effective. I
    like most of what he has done.



    Like what?


    Stopping and deporting illegals.


    And who will do their jobs?

    Someone here legally.



    Possibly ending birthright
    citizenship.


    Prove you are citizen without it.

    It was never intended to be a tourist operation where
    someone would visit for the purpose of making their child a
    citizen.




    Restricting the power of local judges,


    By doing what?

    What the SC just did. One judge cannot issue a ruling that
    covers the entire country.


    Reducing unnecessary spending and waste.


    Like spending a BILLION on
    TRump "flying golden palace"?

    Like elimination stupid giveaway programs and unnecessary
    departments. Ending DEI resulted in huge savings.



    Reducing the bureaucracy.


    Except when you NEED that bureaucracy.

    Most of it is unneeded. It is ft that has grown over the
    years.


    Modern Conservative: Someone who take time out
    from complaining that government is too big and
    cutbacks are overdue to ask why there is only
    one line open at the DMV and why aren't there
    more people working there.

    I am more anti-liberal and anti-progressive than
    conservative. There are a couple of conservative positions
    I find reprehensible.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Don Shepler@21:1/5 to Attila on Mon Jun 30 09:54:42 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 6/30/2025 2:36 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 01:35:25 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    There is more to the US than Texas.



    There is more to the immigration issue
    than just "kick them all out".

    Of course there is. It is the illegals that should be
    kicked out.

    There is no such thing as "illegals."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Mon Jun 30 17:45:25 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:51:37 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 01:35:25 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    There is more to the US than Texas.



    There is more to the immigration issue
    than just "kick them all out".

    Of course there is. It is the illegals that should be
    kicked out.



    OK, have it your way, kick out
    every illegal at huge expense.

    Then what?

    Then fix the immigration laws.


    By doing what?








    Crops left to rot: A Trump-voting farmer's
    warning - mass deportations would be a disaster
    Wed 22 Jan 2025
    https://tinyurl.com/t8bdyz7t



    Ag labor shortages cost state economy as much as $11.7B
    Nov. 27, 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/nvud928v



    Yuma agriculture labor shortage leading to increased imports
    Feb 15 2025
    https://tinyurl.com/233e6cve



    Kern County immigration sweep halts citrus harvest
    January 16, 2025
    https://tinyurl.com/5espt94m



    Farm Labor Shortage Leaves $13 Million in Food
    to Rot in Fields
    July 35 2017
    https://tinyurl.com/2hbu2ujt



    California Crops Rot as Immigration Crackdown
    Creates Farmworker Shortage
    August 8, 2017


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Mon Jun 30 18:05:50 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 08:47:37 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 01:35:25 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    There is more to the US than Texas.



    There is more to the immigration issue
    than just "kick them all out".

    Of course there is. It is the illegals that should be
    kicked out. Those here legally can stay as long as they
    remain legal.

    so when are you leaving

    I am here legally and can prove it.



    Then do so, without referencing birthright citizenship.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Mon Jun 30 18:04:25 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:58:17 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 01:37:38 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 13:30:38 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 01:40:00 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 11:49:58 -0700, algorithmic behavior
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with
    message-id <pPW7Q.2120$[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/27/2025 5:28 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:18:45 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational >>>>about
    Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should tell them that is not how to make friends with us. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love
    Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they�re great letters.
    We fell in love."
    https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/ >>>>>>>>>>>>

    He is basically a real estate salesman.

    He is not a real estate salesman, you fucking idiot. He's a
    real
    estate investor, and not a particularly astute one.

    He is worth more than you are.


    And he made his first million the
    old fashioned way - as a graduation
    present from Daddykins.

    Are we supposed to be impressed
    by that?


    I am sure nothing Trump does will impress you.


    What has he done that is impressive?

    He was not elected to be impressive but to be effective. I
    like most of what he has done.



    Like what?


    Stopping and deporting illegals.


    And who will do their jobs?

    Someone here legally.



    Like who?

    Have YOU ever done field work?







    Possibly ending birthright
    citizenship.


    Prove you are citizen without it.

    It was never intended to be a tourist operation where
    someone would visit for the purpose of making their child a
    citizen.


    Just prove you are an America
    without referencing a birth certificate.






    Restricting the power of local judges,


    By doing what?

    What the SC just did. One judge cannot issue a ruling that
    covers the entire country.


    No local judge has ever done that.




    Reducing unnecessary spending and waste.


    Like spending a BILLION on
    TRump "flying golden palace"?

    Like elimination stupid giveaway programs and unnecessary
    departments. Ending DEI resulted in huge savings.



    Pulling books about the Tuskeegee
    airmen and the Tulsa race riot has
    benefitted America how, again?




    Reducing the bureaucracy.


    Except when you NEED that bureaucracy.

    Most of it is unneeded.


    It is all unnecessary until
    YOUR local hospital closes and
    YOUR Medicare is cancelled and
    YOUR post office is relocated to
    the next county over.


    Funny whenever a disaster
    strikes a conservatives area the
    Trumpists don't call out for Aetna
    or State Farm or Baskin Robbins,
    the locals cry out "Where is the
    governemnt! Government is supposed
    to help up us!"

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to caSdnfQIDZRqI__1nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@gi on Mon Jun 30 16:13:52 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 09:44:38 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:51:37 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 01:35:25 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    There is more to the US than Texas.



    There is more to the immigration issue
    than just "kick them all out".

    Of course there is. It is the illegals that should be
    kicked out.



    OK, have it your way, kick out
    every illegal at huge expense.

    Then what?

    Then fix the immigration laws.





    Crops left to rot: A Trump-voting farmer's
    warning - mass deportations would be a disaster
    Wed 22 Jan 2025
    https://tinyurl.com/t8bdyz7t



    Ag labor shortages cost state economy as much as $11.7B
    Nov. 27, 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/nvud928v



    Yuma agriculture labor shortage leading to increased imports
    Feb 15 2025
    https://tinyurl.com/233e6cve



    Kern County immigration sweep halts citrus harvest
    January 16, 2025
    https://tinyurl.com/5espt94m



    Farm Labor Shortage Leaves $13 Million in Food
    to Rot in Fields
    July 35 2017
    https://tinyurl.com/2hbu2ujt



    California Crops Rot as Immigration Crackdown
    Creates Farmworker Shortage
    August 8, 2017

    then you'll have to leave ,
    you can't prove you're an american

    I can well enough for my state to recognize it. According
    to existing law.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to caSdnfUIDZQhI__1nZ2dnZfqn_QAAAAA@gi on Mon Jun 30 16:12:42 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 09:43:39 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 08:28:25 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 14:41:49 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 07:26:58 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 16:27:41 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    Every
    citizen should carry identification and proof of
    citizenship. In my state it is a special mark on a driver's >>>>>>>>>
    this is what you said

    Every
    citizen should carry identification and proof of
    citizenship. In my state it is a special mark on a driver's

    OK

    well you said it

    It is true. There is such a mark. I needed to provide a
    birth certificate to receive it.

    Those who do not have such certificates would need other
    documentation.

    no they wouldn't

    Why not?

    because new borns don't travel with papers

    Such things are the responsibility of their parents or
    guardians. That is why our society requires every minor
    must have an adult responsible for them.

    no it doesn't

    It does unless that minor goes to court and gets legal
    permission through emancipation.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Jun 30 16:18:08 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 18:05:50 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 08:47:37 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 01:35:25 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    There is more to the US than Texas.



    There is more to the immigration issue
    than just "kick them all out".

    Of course there is. It is the illegals that should be
    kicked out. Those here legally can stay as long as they
    remain legal.

    so when are you leaving

    I am here legally and can prove it.



    Then do so, without referencing birthright citizenship.



    I was born in the US to parents both of whom were in turn
    born in the US.

    Neither of my parents were citizens of some other country.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to message-id on Mon Jun 30 16:18:43 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 09:54:42 -0700, Don Shepler <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with
    message-id <ljz8Q.345421$[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/30/2025 2:36 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 01:35:25 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    There is more to the US than Texas.



    There is more to the immigration issue
    than just "kick them all out".

    Of course there is. It is the illegals that should be
    kicked out.

    There is no such thing as "illegals."

    That is not what the laws says.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Jun 30 16:15:49 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 17:45:25 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:51:37 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 01:35:25 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    There is more to the US than Texas.



    There is more to the immigration issue
    than just "kick them all out".

    Of course there is. It is the illegals that should be
    kicked out.



    OK, have it your way, kick out
    every illegal at huge expense.

    Then what?

    Then fix the immigration laws.


    By doing what?

    I am not getting into that particular cat fight. I have no
    particular interest in any of the details as long as it does
    not include amnesty for anyone here illegally.



    Crops left to rot: A Trump-voting farmer's
    warning - mass deportations would be a disaster
    Wed 22 Jan 2025
    https://tinyurl.com/t8bdyz7t



    Ag labor shortages cost state economy as much as $11.7B
    Nov. 27, 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/nvud928v



    Yuma agriculture labor shortage leading to increased imports
    Feb 15 2025
    https://tinyurl.com/233e6cve



    Kern County immigration sweep halts citrus harvest
    January 16, 2025
    https://tinyurl.com/5espt94m



    Farm Labor Shortage Leaves $13 Million in Food
    to Rot in Fields
    July 35 2017
    https://tinyurl.com/2hbu2ujt



    California Crops Rot as Immigration Crackdown
    Creates Farmworker Shortage
    August 8, 2017


    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to wUWdnT6YO-s9Wv_1nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@gi on Mon Jun 30 16:29:19 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 10:21:15 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 08:48:00 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    He was not elected to be impressive but to be effective. I
    like most of what he has done.



    Like what?


    Stopping and deporting illegals. Possibly ending birthright
    citizenship. Restricting the power of local judges,
    Reducing unnecessary spending and waste. Reducing the
    bureaucracy.

    Do you need more?

    yes

    I have listed a sufficient number. I have better things to
    do.

    why aren't you doing them instead of being here all day like you will

    I am taking a short break and doing something else for a
    while but it is time I get back to what I really enjoy
    doing.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Jun 30 16:27:45 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 18:04:25 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:58:17 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 01:37:38 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 13:30:38 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 01:40:00 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 11:49:58 -0700, algorithmic behavior
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with
    message-id <pPW7Q.2120$[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/27/2025 5:28 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:18:45 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy hostage. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be rational >>>>>about
    Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should tell them that is not how to make friends with us. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they�re great letters.
    We fell in love."
    https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>

    He is basically a real estate salesman.

    He is not a real estate salesman, you fucking idiot. He's a
    real
    estate investor, and not a particularly astute one.

    He is worth more than you are.


    And he made his first million the
    old fashioned way - as a graduation
    present from Daddykins.

    Are we supposed to be impressed
    by that?


    I am sure nothing Trump does will impress you.


    What has he done that is impressive?

    He was not elected to be impressive but to be effective. I
    like most of what he has done.



    Like what?


    Stopping and deporting illegals.


    And who will do their jobs?

    Someone here legally.



    Like who?

    Have YOU ever done field work?

    There are hundreds of occupations I have not had. Including
    illegal field worker.








    Possibly ending birthright
    citizenship.


    Prove you are citizen without it.

    It was never intended to be a tourist operation where
    someone would visit for the purpose of making their child a
    citizen.


    Just prove you are an America
    without referencing a birth certificate.

    Answered elsewhere.







    Restricting the power of local judges,


    By doing what?

    What the SC just did. One judge cannot issue a ruling that
    covers the entire country.


    No local judge has ever done that.

    That was a specific point that was struck down by the SC
    last week. One federal judge can no longer issue an
    injunction covering actions throughout the country.





    Reducing unnecessary spending and waste.


    Like spending a BILLION on
    TRump "flying golden palace"?

    Like elimination stupid giveaway programs and unnecessary
    departments. Ending DEI resulted in huge savings.



    Pulling books about the Tuskeegee
    airmen and the Tulsa race riot has
    benefitted America how, again?

    Nothing but ending DEI has definitely been an improvement
    along with ending idiotic financial support for stupid
    things. Plus too many other details to cover here. Details
    like ending the Green Raw Deal and the electric car tax
    breaks.

    Overall I support the actions of Trump and DOGE.






    Reducing the bureaucracy.


    Except when you NEED that bureaucracy.

    Most of it is unneeded.


    It is all unnecessary until
    YOUR local hospital closes and
    YOUR Medicare is cancelled and
    YOUR post office is relocated to
    the next county over.


    Funny whenever a disaster
    strikes a conservatives area the
    Trumpists don't call out for Aetna
    or State Farm or Baskin Robbins,
    the locals cry out "Where is the
    governemnt! Government is supposed
    to help up us!"

    I am from the government and I am here to help you.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Tue Jul 1 01:47:14 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 18:05:50 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 08:47:37 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 01:35:25 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    There is more to the US than Texas.



    There is more to the immigration issue
    than just "kick them all out".

    Of course there is. It is the illegals that should be
    kicked out. Those here legally can stay as long as they
    remain legal.

    so when are you leaving

    I am here legally and can prove it.



    Then do so, without referencing birthright citizenship.



    I was born in the US to parents both of whom were in turn
    born in the US.



    That is birthright citizenship.



    Neither of my parents were citizens of some other country.


    Barron Trump was born to a citizen
    from another country - should we deport
    him?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Tue Jul 1 01:30:20 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 17:45:25 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:51:37 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 01:35:25 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    There is more to the US than Texas.



    There is more to the immigration issue
    than just "kick them all out".

    Of course there is. It is the illegals that should be
    kicked out.



    OK, have it your way, kick out
    every illegal at huge expense.

    Then what?

    Then fix the immigration laws.


    By doing what?

    I am not getting into that particular cat fight. I have no
    particular interest in any of the details as long as it does
    not include amnesty for anyone here illegally.



    OK, your choice.

    Most people demanding a
    law be fixed have an idea what
    fix they are talking about.






    Crops left to rot: A Trump-voting farmer's
    warning - mass deportations would be a disaster
    Wed 22 Jan 2025
    https://tinyurl.com/t8bdyz7t



    Ag labor shortages cost state economy as much as $11.7B
    Nov. 27, 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/nvud928v



    Yuma agriculture labor shortage leading to increased imports
    Feb 15 2025
    https://tinyurl.com/233e6cve



    Kern County immigration sweep halts citrus harvest
    January 16, 2025
    https://tinyurl.com/5espt94m



    Farm Labor Shortage Leaves $13 Million in Food
    to Rot in Fields
    July 35 2017
    https://tinyurl.com/2hbu2ujt



    California Crops Rot as Immigration Crackdown
    Creates Farmworker Shortage
    August 8, 2017



    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Attila on Tue Jul 1 01:44:05 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 18:04:25 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:58:17 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 01:37:38 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 13:30:38 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 01:40:00 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 11:49:58 -0700, algorithmic behavior >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with
    message-id <pPW7Q.2120$[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/27/2025 5:28 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:18:45 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy
    hostage.

    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be
    rational
    about
    Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should tell them that is not how to make friends with
    us.



    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they�re great letters.
    We fell in love."
    https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    He is basically a real estate salesman.

    He is not a real estate salesman, you fucking idiot. He's a
    real
    estate investor, and not a particularly astute one.

    He is worth more than you are.


    And he made his first million the
    old fashioned way - as a graduation
    present from Daddykins.

    Are we supposed to be impressed
    by that?


    I am sure nothing Trump does will impress you.


    What has he done that is impressive?

    He was not elected to be impressive but to be effective. I
    like most of what he has done.



    Like what?


    Stopping and deporting illegals.


    And who will do their jobs?

    Someone here legally.



    Like who?

    Have YOU ever done field work?

    There are hundreds of occupations I have not had. Including
    illegal field worker.


    When growers call for workers to
    come harvest crops why are "illegals"
    the only ones who show up?


    Possibly ending birthright
    citizenship.


    Prove you are citizen without it.

    It was never intended to be a tourist operation where
    someone would visit for the purpose of making their child a
    citizen.


    Just prove you are an America
    without referencing a birth certificate.

    Answered elsewhere.


    Nope.








    Restricting the power of local judges,


    By doing what?

    What the SC just did. One judge cannot issue a ruling that
    covers the entire country.


    No local judge has ever done that.

    That was a specific point that was struck down by the SC
    last week. One federal judge can no longer issue an
    injunction covering actions throughout the country.


    Federal judges are not "local".
    They are nominated by the president
    and confirmed by the Senate.






    Reducing unnecessary spending and waste.


    Like spending a BILLION on
    TRump "flying golden palace"?

    Like elimination stupid giveaway programs and unnecessary
    departments. Ending DEI resulted in huge savings.



    Pulling books about the Tuskeegee
    airmen and the Tulsa race riot has
    benefitted America how, again?

    Nothing but ending DEI has definitely been an improvement
    along with ending idiotic financial support for stupid
    things. Plus too many other details to cover here. Details
    like ending the Green Raw Deal and the electric car tax
    breaks.


    But the oil depletiona allowance and
    drilling on public land, well, no preferential
    treatment, no sirree.


    Overall I support the actions of Trump and DOGE.


    You realize that it was Trump and
    the Republicans who created the EV tax
    break, no?









    Reducing the bureaucracy.


    Except when you NEED that bureaucracy.

    Most of it is unneeded.


    It is all unnecessary until
    YOUR local hospital closes and
    YOUR Medicare is cancelled and
    YOUR post office is relocated to
    the next county over.


    Funny whenever a disaster
    strikes a conservatives area the
    Trumpists don't call out for Aetna
    or State Farm or Baskin Robbins,
    the locals cry out "Where is the
    governemnt! Government is supposed
    to help up us!"

    I am from the government and I am here to help you.



    If government disaster aid is so wrong
    why to Republicans keep doing it?




    Governor Abbott Announces Federal
    Assistance For Texas Wildfires
    March 5, 2025

    https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/governor-abbott-announces-federal- assistance-for-texas-wildfires

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to ydCdnaFoM-VkbP_1nZ2dnZfqn_UAAAAA@gi on Tue Jul 1 04:24:15 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 13:22:26 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 09:44:38 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:51:37 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 01:35:25 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    There is more to the US than Texas.



    There is more to the immigration issue
    than just "kick them all out".

    Of course there is. It is the illegals that should be
    kicked out.



    OK, have it your way, kick out
    every illegal at huge expense.

    Then what?

    Then fix the immigration laws.





    Crops left to rot: A Trump-voting farmer's
    warning - mass deportations would be a disaster
    Wed 22 Jan 2025
    https://tinyurl.com/t8bdyz7t



    Ag labor shortages cost state economy as much as $11.7B
    Nov. 27, 2023
    https://tinyurl.com/nvud928v



    Yuma agriculture labor shortage leading to increased imports
    Feb 15 2025
    https://tinyurl.com/233e6cve



    Kern County immigration sweep halts citrus harvest
    January 16, 2025
    https://tinyurl.com/5espt94m



    Farm Labor Shortage Leaves $13 Million in Food
    to Rot in Fields
    July 35 2017
    https://tinyurl.com/2hbu2ujt



    California Crops Rot as Immigration Crackdown
    Creates Farmworker Shortage
    August 8, 2017

    then you'll have to leave ,
    you can't prove you're an american

    I can well enough for my state to recognize it. According
    to existing law.

    ok go ahead prove it

    I do - at the proper time, place, and to the proper
    requestor. None of which involves you.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to ydCdnaZoM-VKbP_1nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@gi on Tue Jul 1 04:22:46 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 13:21:52 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 09:43:39 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 08:28:25 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 14:41:49 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 07:26:58 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 16:27:41 -0700, % <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    Every
    citizen should carry identification and proof of
    citizenship. In my state it is a special mark on a driver's >>>>>>>>>>>
    this is what you said

    Every
    citizen should carry identification and proof of
    citizenship. In my state it is a special mark on a driver's >>>>>>>>>>
    OK

    well you said it

    It is true. There is such a mark. I needed to provide a
    birth certificate to receive it.

    Those who do not have such certificates would need other
    documentation.

    no they wouldn't

    Why not?

    because new borns don't travel with papers

    Such things are the responsibility of their parents or
    guardians. That is why our society requires every minor
    must have an adult responsible for them.

    no it doesn't

    It does unless that minor goes to court and gets legal
    permission through emancipation.

    nothing you say is right ,
    you know nothing about immigration law ,
    and you can't prove you're not an immigrant

    I need to prove nothing to you.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Jul 1 04:26:01 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Tue, 01 Jul 2025 01:30:20 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 17:45:25 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:51:37 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 01:35:25 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    There is more to the US than Texas.



    There is more to the immigration issue
    than just "kick them all out".

    Of course there is. It is the illegals that should be
    kicked out.



    OK, have it your way, kick out
    every illegal at huge expense.

    Then what?

    Then fix the immigration laws.


    By doing what?

    I am not getting into that particular cat fight. I have no
    particular interest in any of the details as long as it does
    not include amnesty for anyone here illegally.



    OK, your choice.

    Most people demanding a
    law be fixed have an idea what
    fix they are talking about.

    I am only demanding illegals be identified and deported.
    Beyond that I have little interest.


    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

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  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Jul 1 04:29:17 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Tue, 01 Jul 2025 01:47:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 18:05:50 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 08:47:37 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 01:35:25 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    There is more to the US than Texas.



    There is more to the immigration issue
    than just "kick them all out".

    Of course there is. It is the illegals that should be
    kicked out. Those here legally can stay as long as they
    remain legal.

    so when are you leaving

    I am here legally and can prove it.



    Then do so, without referencing birthright citizenship.



    I was born in the US to parents both of whom were in turn
    born in the US.



    That is birthright citizenship.



    Neither of my parents were citizens of some other country.


    Barron Trump was born to a citizen
    from another country - should we deport
    him?


    His father was a citizen. I suspect his mother was a
    citizen, both of them were US residents, and she did not
    travel here for the express purpose of making her child a
    citizen.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

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  • From Attila@21:1/5 to 6vOcnUVIQqa2af_1nZ2dnZfqn_gAAAAA@gi on Tue Jul 1 04:32:18 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 13:31:39 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 10:21:15 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 08:48:00 -0700, % <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    He was not elected to be impressive but to be effective. I
    like most of what he has done.



    Like what?


    Stopping and deporting illegals. Possibly ending birthright
    citizenship. Restricting the power of local judges,
    Reducing unnecessary spending and waste. Reducing the
    bureaucracy.

    Do you need more?

    yes

    I have listed a sufficient number. I have better things to
    do.

    why aren't you doing them instead of being here all day like you will

    I am taking a short break and doing something else for a
    while but it is time I get back to what I really enjoy
    doing.

    you have done exactly what i said ,
    i said you'd be here all day and you have been

    So what?

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Jul 1 04:31:37 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On Tue, 01 Jul 2025 01:44:05 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 18:04:25 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:58:17 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 01:37:38 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 13:30:38 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 01:40:00 +0000, Mitchell Holman
    <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>news:[email protected]:

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 11:49:58 -0700, algorithmic behavior >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with
    message-id <pPW7Q.2120$[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/27/2025 5:28 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:18:45 +0000, Mitchell Holman >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 01:33:14 +0000, Mitchell Holman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:00:06 -0700, "chine.bleu" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <103kcco$3ltik$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:
    1979 when they took an entire American embassy
    hostage.

    1953 USA overthrows Iran republic
    1979 Embassy attack
    26 years
    2025 La Bamba Shelter
    46 years

    Do we have to wait until 2079 before we can be
    rational
    about
    Iran?

    Not if they stop with the threats.

    When the legislature chants "Death to America" someone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should tell them that is not how to make friends with
    us.



    Destroying Communism has been a steady
    plank of GOP for decades but that didn't
    stop Trump from sending all his jobs to
    China and falling in love with a communist
    dictator.


    Your interpretation.




    President Trump Says He and Kim Jong-Un Fell in Love >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sept 30 2018

    "He wrote me beautiful letters, Trump said
    of Kim Saturday during a rally in Wheeling,
    West Virginia. "And they�re great letters.
    We fell in love."
    https://time.com/5411002/trump-kim-jon-un-fell-in-love/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    He is basically a real estate salesman.

    He is not a real estate salesman, you fucking idiot. He's a >>>real
    estate investor, and not a particularly astute one.

    He is worth more than you are.


    And he made his first million the
    old fashioned way - as a graduation
    present from Daddykins.

    Are we supposed to be impressed
    by that?


    I am sure nothing Trump does will impress you.


    What has he done that is impressive?

    He was not elected to be impressive but to be effective. I
    like most of what he has done.



    Like what?


    Stopping and deporting illegals.


    And who will do their jobs?

    Someone here legally.



    Like who?

    Have YOU ever done field work?

    There are hundreds of occupations I have not had. Including
    illegal field worker.


    When growers call for workers to
    come harvest crops why are "illegals"
    the only ones who show up?

    Irrelevant to the issue of deporting illegals.




    Possibly ending birthright
    citizenship.


    Prove you are citizen without it.

    It was never intended to be a tourist operation where
    someone would visit for the purpose of making their child a
    citizen.


    Just prove you are an America
    without referencing a birth certificate.

    Answered elsewhere.


    Nope.








    Restricting the power of local judges,


    By doing what?

    What the SC just did. One judge cannot issue a ruling that
    covers the entire country.


    No local judge has ever done that.

    That was a specific point that was struck down by the SC
    last week. One federal judge can no longer issue an
    injunction covering actions throughout the country.


    Federal judges are not "local".
    They are nominated by the president
    and confirmed by the Senate.






    Reducing unnecessary spending and waste.


    Like spending a BILLION on
    TRump "flying golden palace"?

    Like elimination stupid giveaway programs and unnecessary
    departments. Ending DEI resulted in huge savings.



    Pulling books about the Tuskeegee
    airmen and the Tulsa race riot has
    benefitted America how, again?

    Nothing but ending DEI has definitely been an improvement
    along with ending idiotic financial support for stupid
    things. Plus too many other details to cover here. Details
    like ending the Green Raw Deal and the electric car tax
    breaks.


    But the oil depletiona allowance and
    drilling on public land, well, no preferential
    treatment, no sirree.


    Overall I support the actions of Trump and DOGE.


    You realize that it was Trump and
    the Republicans who created the EV tax
    break, no?









    Reducing the bureaucracy.


    Except when you NEED that bureaucracy.

    Most of it is unneeded.


    It is all unnecessary until
    YOUR local hospital closes and
    YOUR Medicare is cancelled and
    YOUR post office is relocated to
    the next county over.


    Funny whenever a disaster
    strikes a conservatives area the
    Trumpists don't call out for Aetna
    or State Farm or Baskin Robbins,
    the locals cry out "Where is the
    governemnt! Government is supposed
    to help up us!"

    I am from the government and I am here to help you.



    If government disaster aid is so wrong
    why to Republicans keep doing it?




    Governor Abbott Announces Federal
    Assistance For Texas Wildfires
    March 5, 2025

    https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/governor-abbott-announces-federal- >assistance-for-texas-wildfires

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 1 13:44:00 2025
    XPost: sac.politics, nz.politics, alt.atheism

    % wrote:
    i said you'd be here all day and you have been


    So have you, fat Dave.

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