title: Jacob’s Prophecy: When Will Mashiach Arrive?
source: Yaakov Meyer
link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G3sCVR4kCQ

Reply ...

I have some questions. 1. Why do you think Shabbat does not come at
midnight ? Rabbis have disagreed with each other on when the new day
starts, and have somehow decided it is when you see 3 stars. However,
everyone in the world knows that "the next day" is after the night
sleep. A day goes from night sleep to night sleep. There is also a
Prophet who said you may not exchange living by day with living by night
(I don't recall which one now), implying that it is good behavior to
sleep at night. Do you say after dinner at 18:00, if you want to meet some friend at 20:00 two hours later, "see you tomorrow" ? Of course not. Also
it seems to be the case, that in the night the body recouperates and
repairs itself. What is left of a rest day, if you make the moment of
the new day somewhere during the waking hours ? Then the supposed rest
day can become (and this is now allowed by the Rabbis) a day where you
have simply moved the working hours around within that day, but you are
still working. You work Friday during the day, and then on Saturday (7th
day) you work on that following evening (which is re-labeled 1st day,
but it isn't of course, it is that same day). Where is it defined that
the new day starts in the early evening ? I never found a source for this.

I once heard it is based on Bereshieth, but this never made any sense
to me whatsoever. I hence seem myself forced to conclude for now, that
it is an error. (There is something quite weird with this error though,
if youtube doesn't delete my comment I'll get to it below). If you have
a good argument, that would be great. It is noteworthy perhaps also,
that it seems to be said (I don't know why) that if Israel observes the
Shabbat once or twice, the Redemption will start. Perhaps this is the
problem, pretending the day is not a day, to break the Shabbat. How real
this is: I have learned that in Tel Aviv, the streets roar to life with
people working in the evening of the 7th day (like restaurants and the
like) ? (Breaking the Shabbat is a death penalty in the Torah. Teaching
how to break the Shabbat, which would then be what the Rabbis do, is of
course also a death penalty then, or even worse if that is possible. If
all this is true, you can get a sense of how decayed Israel is at this
point, and how lost Rabbinical Judaism is, and that's just the Shabbat)

Okay anyway, how about this point also: the Rabbis claim that Hashem kept Israel for 210 years in Egypt, and not the 430 which the Torah explicitly
says twice (IIRC). They think this, because of a genealogical problem,
where it is mentioned "who went down to Egypt". Supposedly both cannot
be true. However, even if they think that, it is still not allowed
to just change the Torah to 210 years, because it says explicitly
430 years. Nevertheless, they did so, and of course this is just not
allowed. Some quite good arguments where made that this list of who went
down to Egypt _included_ people who where later to be born in Egypt. The
issue should then have to be solved the other way around: not the year is wrong, but the genealogy given needs to be read in a different way. The
kicker in all this: if you put in the 430 years in Egypt, you find (if
I did that correctly) that Corona lockdown year of the entire world,
is the year 6 000 (!).

The issue that I personally noticed with the 400/430 years (but of course
I may be wrong, so please correct if you can with real arguments and not Rabbinical sources but _written Tanach_ sources), is that when Moshe
Rabbeinu killed the Egyptian guard, that could have been the start of
the rebellion and N amount of years later they could have left Egypt
perfectly on time for the 400 years. It was however not Hashem who
was late and who was rebelling and doing all the tarrying, even though
the Jewish people may have been blaming heaven as usual for their own
crimes, it was Israel again who let Moshe Rabbeinu down. Moshe Rabbeinu
had to flee, and everything was delayed by many years. Right ? Moshe
Rabbeinu killed that guard, but that's an act of war against Egypt and
the Pharao. That is already the beginning of leaving Egypt. Israel only
had to be with Moshe Rabbeinu and side with Justice and courage, and it
could have led to leaving Egypt eventually. The story would then have
been different. Hence I would claim: everything Hashem did was perfect,
it was only Israel who messed it up. Just as the Rabbis messed up the
Shabbos and the year count. Not heaven did, Israel did. Heaven is good,
Israel is wrong. We see that all over the Tanach.

Now for the funny part about the year count: if you plug in this whole
thing where Shabbos starts on Friday evening, and you do the year count
as the Rabbis did, then you come more or less again to the same years
compared to if you did those math problems differently: 430 years in Egypt
(so it is now the year 6 005 already, and Israel has _again_ refused to
listen to heaven just as they refused to listen to Moshe Rabbeinu who
came there on time perfectly with the attack on the Egyptian guards),
and the Shabbos starts on the 7th day and not on the 6.75th day (or
somesuch). I thought at least it was funny how both math versions point
to a similar time again.

At 3:40 you make a claim, saying either 'moshiach' is coming any minute
now soon because Shabbat started but 'moshiach didn't reveal himself yet',
or it is coming any minute now. This is not correct, because there is a
third option: 'moshiach' did reveal himself, but Israel didn't want to
notice it and refused to do Teshuvah. What do we see with the Sjemot
? Same thing: Moshe Rabbeinu was there starting the Sjemot already,
but Israel didn't notice it, they didn't want to have the courage, they
didn't have the moral fibre to stand with Moshe Rabbeinu against the
evil of Egypt. They thought that God may have abandoned them ? But no,
they abandoned the work they had needed to do, which was to be a shield
around Moshe Rabbeinu who did a righteous thing, against the Tyranny of
Egypt, and that was perhaps what your God wanted you to do. To show that courage, the care for the truth, the peace, Justice, for what's right,
and just go for it just like Moshe Rabbeinu went for it when he saw the
evil. Moshe acted like the hero he was, Israel cowered and sided with
Egypt (!), the abusers. Then they thought, their God had forgotten them
? It was not so, and this may be the same thing right now also, that
Israel _pretends_ not to notice what they need to do, they pretend it
is late, but in fact they themselves are late, they themselves are the
let down again. Heaven is perfect, and Israel has a hard neck. This is
all over the Tanach, you know that also.

Anyway, I think you should also do Teshuavh over this: Rambam Shemita
10:8, prozbul, heter iska, Shabbos breaking as mentioned, Sun disk
idolatry at the late 2nd Temple (Lamp of Helena); and maybe some other
things, but you'll notice that this is the economy. Money, land and
rest. Nations tend to die under Plutocracy, all the money, land and
then power goes to the few rich. This is wrong. Rambam 10:8 is obviously
wrong. Prozbul is obviously wrong. Yet you keep it on the books, hence
you cannot be Redeemed because you would mess the whole thing up, and
it is also a matter of dishonesty isn't it ? Have a great continuation
of your Shabbos. You could perhaps start the Redemption in some sort of
way today, but it is all up to you. I guess heaven can wait another 30
years if Israel is obstinate again, just like in Egypt.

By the way, if it is the year 6 000, then by this reading of the Torah
(a day is a thousand years, etc), 'moshiach' has had to already have
come, and Israel apparently has had to reject it already (please do
not confuse me with a western idolator, i hate that system, thanks for noticing). Regarding this, it is amazing to see that we have now so much technology, that we can speak of the end of work already. Humanity does
not have to do hard labor anymore almost, and soon maybe no labor at
all anymore, thanks to the technology. The world of Shabbat has already started. Yet, humans mess it up. The consequences will be horrific,
and are probably already inevitable (war & tyranny).

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On 2025-03-01, Jos Boersema <[email protected]> wrote:

title: Jacob’s Prophecy: When Will Mashiach Arrive?
source: Yaakov Meyer
link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G3sCVR4kCQ

Reply ...

[...]

all anymore, thanks to the technology. The world of Shabbat has already started. Yet, humans mess it up. The consequences will be horrific,
and are probably already inevitable (war & tyranny).

* End reply.

I don't have time for tarrying Jews or lazy dishonest Rabbis, so I
thought I jump back in after as long a time I could wait and call this
person to account ...

Reply 2x ...

See ? Already another day wasted in the exile, why ? Do you not care about
the obvious truth, or are you still studying the problem or didn't have
time yet, or are you doing your job (as being a Jew) and taking down
the Rabbis wherever you can and you started the Redemption already -
all the liars will be gone !

Do you see it ? You don't even want the truth, peace and Justice
because you are against the Torah, right ? Maybe you will get to the
issue soon, but I already try to get through to these dishonest people
since 2008 (!) and I've almost never seen anyone even daring to reply
to these arguments, let alone do anything useful with it. So, what is
the Redemption for you ? You are all under a death penalty more or less
(and that is potentially more _more_ than less), meaning that if the Torah where executed on Israel now, then all the Rabbis, all their following,
and everyone else also who likely cares even less, all are under the
death penalty. That is how serious it is, what you have done.

If the Redemption where to break out now, and the Torah would be made law
all of a sudden, then I doubt there would be 1000 persons who survive
it. Should people who do rest on the 7th day be allowed to live ? What
about the problem that they didn't stand up against the Rabbis, allowing children all over to be taught wrong, how can they accept this illusion
that Rabbis are allowed to make Torah breaking law (on an issue which
is the death penalty even), how can they stand by and let it happen ? If
it isn't a death penalty, then at least banishment ?

You see the point ? The Redemption for people like you and your Rabbis, it
is nothing but a disaster because you cannot be part of a Redemption. You
will all be thrown out, if the Torah is made law. Besides the death
penalty for the Shabbat, the death penalty for Rambam Shemita 10:8 is
(in my opinion) worse. To put it differently: i think Rambam Shemita
10:8 is a worse crime than Rabbinical Shabbat law, which is already a
death sentence (breaking the Shabbat in the evening, pretending that is
law). Rambam Shemita 10:8 is also worse in that it is more clear that it
is fraud, because that is not what the Torah says there obviously. You may still argue about when it is a new day (I don't think so, but technically
maybe you can argue it). The law of Jubilee however, how what Rambam
writes is a fraud, is completely obvious. Prozbul is probably on the
same level of fraud as Rambam Shemita 10:8, but I think less damaging.

All these people who think they are frum ? Death penalty. All these
Rabbis who pretend "I call upon the Jewish people to do the will of
Hashem !" and who think it is the people who are at fault, it is the
people and not them ? Death penalty. This is how lost the Nation of
Israel is at this point. It is all one big fraud.

It is not so ? We didn't mean it, it wasn't us ? Now we see the Zionist
Rebel State, and we see that you _actually_ did not grant people their
right to land, you _actually_ have overthrown the Jubilee on land even
though you have control over an amount of land in Eretz Yisroel. You
cannot hide from that anymore, because it is a fact, and who protested
it ? A few hundred, years ago ? Several dozen people still have a form
of Kibbutz where they have land ? Then maybe _they_ will survive, but
millions would then still be under the death penalty, if the Torah where enacted as law and carried out to the fullest of its letter, right now
and no excuses. Rebbes and chief Rabbis ? Death penalty, under the laws
they pretend to uphold (the _written_ Torah).

In all this mess, you then turn around and say: where is 'moshiach',
why is he 'tarrying'. You see how bad this is ? You are delaying the
Redemption right now yourself. It doesn't matter who is 'moshiach' but
it _has_ to be the truth. If you don't care about the truth I write here,
then you will also not be with this 'moshiach' (whomever). _Rather_ than
that you will get mercy for the exile, I think you will be _punished_
even more soon, for the crime of having created the exile. You Israel
created the exile, and that was in itself also a crime. You think that
this is punishment, and while you can look at it that way, it is also
the natural consequences of your lawlessness, your dishonesty, your lack
of care. It is a consequence, like if a burglar cuts his own hand on the
glass he breaks to get in the house to steal. Is that cut a punishment
? If it is bad, the judge might even deduct some punishment later, on
account of this cut, but it is also the natural consequence, something
he created for himself.

The next round of punishment will be 7 times worse, or to put it like so:
the next round of the consequences of breaking the Torah which you have
created for yourself, is going to be 7 times worse. it is both at the same time, an act of heaven and the consequences of the lawlessness of Israel.

Maybe the whole Redemption should go to the Kairites, and not one
Rabbinical Jew is going to be able to make it, due to their betrayal
and how long they went on with it. You think it won't happen ? Then the
Torah with its punishment section will not be true. You are not waiting on
what the Torah says, you just want another human King, to rage under and
build Empire. Right ? Because that is what's left, after you deducted
the truth off of what is supposed to be the Redemption. You already
have that, called the ZIonist Rebel State, rebels against the Torah,
at war with Justice and Peace.

Not so, the people are nice, you don't even know them ? Why did the army
not show up in any amount of reasonable time on October 7th ? They are
merely Vassals for USA, the world Empire of greed and lying. The whole
thing is a mess, at the root of it, it doesn't work. It seems to work
? For a time things may seem to work, but when they are not set up
correctly, it doesn't last.

* End reply.

What a dishonest people, what a liars. Then they think they will be
Redeemed, what a fools. I don't see any hope left for this people at
this point, or humanity at large neither, at least not in the current
state before World War 3. They apparently need to see it, feel it, how
truly evil they are, that they have created all this monstrous death and
hell on Earth all over again, for no reason.

Yuk, what a people. What an intellectual dishonesty, what an immorality
to not reply or care for an obvious argument about the Torah. They
certainly do not deserve to be talked to, and so it was completely
correct that there are no more Prophets for Israel, and eventually most
of them will just be punished into non-existing, and that will be the
end for many of them (or so it seems). They think they can sit there,
play all sides, and then they will be saved. It would show they have no
heart, not even a mind either, that they are unreliable and are unfit to
live in the Redemption.

More and more it seems that the worst scenarios are going to come out.
Only a quite small amount of people are going to have the courage,
honesty and good will to break with the long established lying Rabbis
and their fake holiness, to make the Redemption happen. Apparently there
are even sources who make the number very small, like hundreds ?

I still hope it will at least be 600 000, who can make it. If they
refuse after the next round of punishment however, it seems to be over
for now for Israel as a Nation, and may have to restart from individuals.
All in all, this is for now where things are going. They will even fail
after the next round of punishment, and then another round of punishment
will end Israel as a people, and only selected families, mere hundreds
will survive, or who knows.

The reason to think that, is if in all this time of effort these people
cannot work up the basic absolutely basic honesty of admitting the
prozbul is a lie and they will do something against it, and all the
other big Rabbinical crimes they are into (overthrown the Torah economy, creating the exile), and not even ONE of them wants to be honest (or at
least not one I managed to make the argument with), then what reason
whatsoever is there to think that they will change after the next round
of punishment (7 times worse than the Nazis, hence a 95%-99% death rate) ? There is no ground to see any hope, no concrete reason to think they
will stop with their blatant lies about the Torah, even though they
themselves are the victims of their own crimes (with the exception of
Rabbis potentially, if they get grants and money from the criminals like
the Rothshild crime family and all their blood money, to keep the scam
going).

Perhaps it is all for the best if Israel almost entirely is wiped out,
in a round of punishment after the next one, and what HKB'H wanted to do
in the first place to make Moshe Rabbeinu the new grand father of the
whole of Israel can then somehow be enacted, preventing future criminal behavior by the people of Israel who might try to mess up and destroy
the Redemption also all over again. That is not supposed to happen and
would undermine the Prophets and the whole system, leading to potential catastrophic demoralization, hence the system is in a bind that way.
Either they make it quite soon and forever, or they need to be
neutralized by heaven (which probably means killed).

I have a feeling that they are behaving as if it is not possible for
them to change their opinions on anything. That it is somehow not their responsibility to stop lying about the Torah, or force their Rabbi to
change his lies, etc. As if someone might have to do that for them, but
so long as that doesn't happen, they just sit there as a rock and it
doesn't even occur to them that what they are doing is their own fault.
It sounds to me like a people who cannot make it into the Redemption
then, if you cannot change your mind from lies to the truth. That then
means you are out. That becomes the choice, the proof that you are
incapable and unworthy to live in a state of true justice, peace and prosperity, forever.

The reason is simple enough: once a bad thing happens, but you first
believed otherwise, if you cannot change your mind on it, then you will
allow this injustice to persist, and eventually that Nation will
potentially break down over many of such instances big and small. You
are not able to withstand the evil, from either within (your own mind,
the error you where misled into perhaps beyond your fault due to
ignorance perhaps) or without (criminals and the like, external forces).
You just don't tow the line, you just don't do your duty. You do not use
your God given powers, so to say. Then fine, you don't deserve others
making things right for you either, just as you refuse to do the same
for them (others). This is how this is justice.

They tell themselves they suffered enough in the exile, as if the exile
is something mean God did to them (that is how the Torah more or less
literally reads though, so it makes some sense). I think they created
the exile, and that is just another cime they commit, and another crime
for which they technically deserve punishment. They would be punished
for having created the exile, for refusing to stop with the exile, etc. Punishment then begets punishment, so to say. A bad choice leading to
pain, results in even more bad choices and more pain. This is
potentially a never ending cycle until extinction.

That's the train they apparently are on, like a group of sacks of
potatoes who are stuffed into a rollar coaster which just ends off of a
cliff. They just sit there, the brakes are right in front of them called
"The Torah" (or the truth, justice), and they just refuse to even look
at it, let alone pull on that brake. Someone *else* must pull the brakes
for them, so they think. Everyone else who sees it starts yelling "pull
the brakes pull the brakes", but they just sit there, mute & deaf, their
only thought is to keep their necks as hard as they have always been,
while they jolt back and forth or the rollar coaster, to the end where
they just come off and fall to their deaths, never even thinking of
doing anything about it.

They think someone will pull the brake on them.

Everyone who sees it thinks: if they don't pull the brakes themselves,
then they made their choice, this is what they wanted, and even if we
pulled the brakes for them these are not creatures in which there is any
life, these are sacks of potatoees or even just rocks. Rocks for which
there is no real use anymore, so they can just go over the cliff, it has
no real consequences.

If they read this ? They think "our King will come" ! They never seem to understand anything, how their lust for a King is the opposite of the
Torah. "But it will be the good King, don't you understand ?" Same as
the western idolators then, have you heard them talk already ? Exactly
the same thing. You cannot listen to the prophet who speaks truth and
Justice, but a King with an Army will make you listen ? Listen to what ?
If you don't already want to listen to the truth because you murdered
the prophet, then you will listen to the King and the King will be good ?

Why will the King be good ? Didn't heaven give you a prophet ? If you
wanted to do what the prophet said, wouldn't you be an army to that
Prophet, and it would be the same as a King, except the prophet is a
good guy and not an evil greedy person who must have harems and armies
and endless wealth and people bowing to him and a palace ? It is like
you first want to have a bad guy who needs all this greed, and then
somehow that will be the good guy, while you had the good guy who didn't
need all that (the prophet), thus proving he was good ! You want someone
bad (or not as good as a prophet), and then that will be good. Does that
make sense ?

I guess not, and that is how you chased away your good guys and your God
even, and eventually you (the Rabbis I guess) even re-dedicated the 2nd
Temple to the Sun idol (!!!), something you still haven't admitted or
cared to overturn.

So ... you think some King will force you to do good, but you don't want
to listen to that which is good or to your prophets, who proof to be
good by not being Kings (armies on command, endless wealth, palaces,
harems, etc), but the end result is supposed to be good again.

Good what, what do you call good ? That becomes the question. Is the
answer: an Empire like Egypt ? Is that what this Zionist Rebel State is
about ? It seems to be so.

You want someone else to force you to be good, even though you can do
that yourself. Even if that where possible, it wouldn't be you anymore.
It wouldn't be your achievement, your life, your soul as it where. You
would be like a spectator to your own life, rather than be a part of it.
I guess this is why it is not happening. You can do it yourself, and
then live the enjoyment of the achievement. It would really be you, you
did that, you wanted that. That's your life, your future, you chose
that. If someone else forces that on you, then that other is perhaps
living, but not you. You are just a sack of potatoes, a sack of rocks in
a rollar coaster.

(Youtube or the channel owner seems to have deleted the 2nd comment I
made. What a lost and dishonorable people. They are soooo proud of
themselves, soooo above any sort of challenge, sooo far above the
argument here presented. Sooo unapproachable, soo much like a King I
would almost say. It feels like talking to an arrogant King to do all
this, and never getting a reply because Kings don't talk to peasants.
They are too good for that, too civilized, too ... just simply too
amazing in every way, to deal with any of these arguments in person.
Meanwhile, I try to save them from their own ignorance by getting them
to wise up, so they don't have to die soon in large numbers, etc. I do
it for them and the world, it literally hurts my neck, and they just sit
there looking at their bruised egos. Sacks of potatoes on a rollar
coaster to nowhere. They're so "emotional about it" (sigh), using their
heads, out of the question ! How dare anyone suggest they should use
their head, that's rude !)

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