• Proud Israel is an idolatrous Nation, but ...

    From Jos Boersema@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 7 11:17:38 2025
    Israel is a proud and idolatrous Nation¹, but arrogance comes before the
    fall.

    title: What World Event Will Trigger The Coming of The Messiah?
    source: The Torah Channel
    link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsUcUWaf_pk

    Reply ...

    Then why don't _you_ do Teshuvah ? I am wondering now if the Rabbis
    will not merely oppose the Torah as they have done since they overthrew
    the Jubilee and now much of the Torah economy, but if they will become
    _active_ in fighting the Redemption as well, when it starts to happen. If
    you - the Rabbis - are going to launch campaigns and propaganda when the Redemption is happening, to try to stop it, because it may be undermining
    your status, expose your lying about the Torah and the guilt the Rabbis
    have for causing and perpetuating the exile. If you had the courage
    and honesty to do Teshuvah over Rabbinical Judaism (which probably is a
    death penalty under the Torah, to follow Rabbinical Judaism), you would
    already have done it. Therefore I now wonder, to what extend will the
    Rabbis become active, and not merely passive by ignoring the Torah,
    when the Redemption is perhaps starting to finally happen.

    Will you lower yourselves to such an extend ? Will you add to the
    guilt of having caused all these holocausts and also the next holocaust (indirectly), and then also actively _fight_ against the Redemption,
    perhaps even with weapons and anger in the streets ? It's not that this
    worries me a lot, but I am merely wondering about it. I don't think
    you have much of a military chance to do much, and if the God of Israel
    is going to do what the prophets seem to have promised, the Rabbis are
    going to be defeated one way or the other. Perhaps it is a good thing
    if you went into an open fight against the Redemption and the house of
    David, because then all of Israel can truly see the extend of Rabbinical treason to the Torah. It will make it so much more obvious that you are
    the enemies, and then you can be expelled with a unity of the people
    who _did_ return to the truth.

    I know I didn't substantiate the claim that the Rabbis are against the
    Torah, but that is also because you already should know, and if you
    do not, then you are basically already guilty. You should know why the
    Rabbis are enemies of the Torah, and where exactly they have overthrown
    Hashem. You should even know why they did it, and how to overturn it, and
    then you should try to do just that. This is minimum civilized behavior
    for a Jew, in my opinion, if I read the Torah. You really don't have a
    clue, don't you.

    Rambam Shemita 10:8, prozbul, heter iska, fake day ending to break
    the Torah by your own fake laws, Sun idolatry at the late 2nd Temple
    'lamp of helena'. The worst one of these is probably the first one I
    mentioned. You will _never_ be able to be Redeemed, if you don't afford
    people their right to land (one way or the other). That is not how an
    economy works, and you are guilty of not showing the Nations how things
    work. The consequences eventually will be (we can now see) a nuclear war,
    and hopefully that will be this trigger for the Redemption, but if not
    that then something worse may happen and that may trigger it. Trigger
    it in the sense of Israel finally breaking with their criminals called
    Rabbis, that is. It is not about 'moshiach' waking up one day and finally
    going out the door. That is the delusion Israel is in, who always tries
    to blame heaven for her own crimes.

    Not listening to these statements, within the logic of the Torah, is
    basically already the death penalty. Do you understand that. You are all
    under a death penalty for ruining the Shabbos with your fake laws alone,
    but ruining the Jubilee is (in my opinion) even worse. It is a miracle
    this mess that is Israel is still around at all. I think at this point
    it is probably best to give the Redemption to the Kairites, and all the
    rest will be removed. At least they had the guts to stand up against the
    lying Rabbis and their money making scams. Abraham had courage, Moshe
    Rabbeinu was courageous, and they did it for the sake of the truth. So
    much unlike the Rabbis and their following, certainly since they became
    what they are now. I guess heaven will have to "sort them out", since
    you don't want to listen to some obvious problems, problems even a child
    can solve. The next round of punishment will have to be 7 times worse
    than the Nazi holocaust, after which you _also_ did _not_ do Teshuvah
    for following this criminal system of yours, called Rabbinical Judaism,
    with your main liars: Hillel and Rambam.

    Not the Redemption is coming for the lying Rabbis and their following
    and much of the rest of Israel, but 7 Nazi holocausts. Not peace,
    but war. Not Redemption, but exile, even worse exile. The light that
    you worship, it will become so powerful on Earth, that it will destroy
    (nuclear bombs). Maybe then you will know that physical light is just
    another natural phenomanon or creation if you will, part of the balance
    of this system. There is dark, and there is light. Worshiping light is
    like worshiping high temperatures versus low. It's crazy. If there was
    no darkness, then there would only be something like an all consuming
    fire like on the Sun. You are pagan idolators, who worship the Sun and
    you think you can do whatever with the Torah that you please, because you usurped that authority despite this not being allowed within the system
    of the Torah. When Hillel made up the prozbul, that was your declaration
    of war against Justice, the truth, and - if you will - heaven, your God.

    It is a funny thought, that all you may have to do is listen to this
    one message, or just the paragraph or even one line where it lists
    your complaints, and the Redemption could become an unstoppable force
    already. All you have to do, is almost like lift a finger, and it could
    already start. Yet, you don't do it. When you think later about why you
    where this obstinate, then I think the answer is your idolatry. This is
    the price you pay and are likely going to pay, for your idolatry. You
    are waiting on your idol, and therefore you think you don't have to
    act. Think about this when you see your Nation annihilated, or when you
    are next. It is because of idolatry. Time & again the Torah said to you,
    stop being an idolator, stop worshiping idols. It was to save you from
    this sickness, and then perhaps soon you are going to truly see the consequences of it. It causes the apathy which destroys everything. Was
    Abraham an apathetic person, was Moshe Rabbeinu ? Absolutely not, the
    opposite. They where _not_ idolators. So different from the average Jewish person, who is still an idolator like this. Still they sit around waiting
    for their idol to come save them, when they can just basically walk into
    a potentially eternal paradise with relatively little effort. You all
    did it to yourselves.

    Notes
    1. This is not in relation to the gentiles, who typically are 10 times
    worse in every way, i'm sorry to say. This is about Jewish people
    versus the Torah, not Jewish people versus other people. It is all
    between Israel and the truth, or Israel and her God as they would put
    it. They are proud of themselves, of the polished wood in their
    Yeshivas (well I have to admit, it is typically an outstanding job
    how Israel makes things) ... but it's not the Torah, it is not enough
    Torah to get out of exile, sorry. If anyone is upset with me for
    calling Israel out for their lies, or not groveling for your fake
    Rabbis and phony Sages, just think about how bad it would be if there
    was another liar on Earth who fawned for these crazy people and their
    lies, who would bow to the lies like you are bowing to them. Would
    that be helpful, would that "make the world beautiful" if there was
    yet another little slave to the lies you have created ?

    Such children these people are. They think they are awesome because
    they can cut wood nicely. Certainly I also think they are awesome for
    it, and how they can bind books and write so much. It doesn't matter
    if it is not ultimately enough peace & justice to stabilize this mess
    on Earth or even this one Nation. It doesn't matter what I think, it
    doesn't matter if most Jewish people can bake bread better than me
    and do everything better than me. It doesn't matter if Rabbis know
    more about the Torah then me.

    What matters is doing enough Torah to make humanity survive at least.
    For the absolute minimum you need to honor the right to land, which
    in the case of Israel is the system of the Jubilee (50th year). What
    matters is what Israel is doing relative to the truth, and a child
    can see the lies of the Rabbis, such as the prozbul or on purpose
    misreading the Torah about the Jubilee. The scam level is so bad,
    it's such a joke of a scam, anyone can see through it. A criminal can
    say, a horrible person can say: Israel is a fool, only a fool on
    purpose misreads the Torah like that, and even a fool would know that
    they are fooling around.

    Regardless though, they are a hard necked and proud people
    unfortunately, not so much compared to other Nations, but compared to
    where they need to be to admit they have been lying, and doing
    something about it. They lack that courage and honesty, and that is
    not relative to anyone else including me. That is relative to the job
    that needs to be done, so then question becomes why they are not
    doing it. The answers which seem to be the most likely true are:
    pride and idolatry. They are proud, hard necked, mindless and
    idolatrous, to such an extend they are capable of going on with their
    obvious lies about the Torah. Somewhere in this list is a stack of
    vices, so large that it blocks them from doing a minimum of the Torah
    (of the truth, peace & justice, which in Israel is called 'Torah').

    You'll notice that I didn't add criminal intentions to this list. I
    don't think Israel is criminal in intention, at least not for the
    most part. What they are doing is criminal under the Torah, but I
    don't think Israel has overthrown the Torah for the will to be evil
    and being a looter and predator against other innocent people. While
    there is obvious crime in Israel as within every Nation, I doubt that
    it is the will to be criminal which causes them to overthrow the
    Torah. It is probably more a combination of these: stupidity
    (mindlessness), pride (angry when challenged, upset when being told a
    truth and not wanting to listen to the complaint), hard necked
    (obstinate, ultra-conservative to 'what their fathers did'). This is
    also what the Prophets seem to have said: a hard necked people, who
    lack understanding. I guess I would add pride to that list, as a
    driving force behind these two. Too proud to change, too proud to see
    their fathers where wrong, too proud to listen to a complaint that is
    true, too proud of all their other accomplishments. Pride makes
    people mindless. They no longer take any advice, they think they know
    it all (that reminds me of me, but anyway haha). Pride makes people
    obstinate, they think they are already great and therefore any change
    is going to make it less. Pride drives mindlessness and obstinacy,
    lack of understanding and a hard neck.

    The 'autists' on dani18 com said to Israel: "Lower your pride." I
    don't think that was an accident that they said that, or at random.
    That was precisely what is the problem. Proud Rebbes with their
    special robe. Proud Rabbis with their certificates. Proud Yeshivah
    students, pretending to follow the will of heaven. Then lower cast
    Jews, who just sit there and take it in the face I guess, and not
    having the time to seriously study the Torah. Perhaps a bit of a
    victim caste here, like in so many Nation: upper class rich and
    lawless, lower cast which is more or less unruly, poor and confused.

    I guess the goal is to both not be proud, yet have courage, which to
    an extend bite each other. If you are proud, it feeds your courage.
    If you are humble, it may make you too cowardly, too scared to say or
    do anything. Moshe Rabbeinu was said to be extremely humble, yet we
    can read in the story that he was also incredibly brave to the point
    of fearlessness (in a good way I mean). Complete sacrifice for the
    good, acting in a most brave manner against evil activities. Humble
    and brave at the same time, for the sake of the truth. Such a man,
    Moshe Rabbeinu, hero of heroes on Earth. This is the model for the
    Jew I suppose, whose idolatry feeds their apathy which may feed their
    fears and their lack of bravery.

    Truly caring for the truth does a lot for being both humble and brave.
    If you really care about the truth, about what is justice, you can
    suddenly act bravely against all odds. If you care for the truth, you
    also know your own faults, and this makes you humble. This may then
    be a medicine for the Jew: the truth, to learn to seriously care
    about the truth. It undermines pride or at least combats the worst of
    it (but we are humans, how great can any human really be, and in
    everything?), it undermines idolatry (because idolatry is typically
    if not always lies and deception, a fraud), it undermines a hard neck
    if you want to _know_ where your forefathers and yourself had been
    wrong, and obviously it combats stupidity and mindlessness.

    Incidentally, the 'autists' also constantly stressed that it was
    going to be about the truth, the Emet. Speaking about 'the truth' I
    had this thought: there are a lot of Jewish sources talking about the
    'knowledge of God' would increase, and they interpret that as that we
    humans would understand God better somehow. Like how God feels ?
    Whatever of this may also be, I just had the thought that 'the
    knowledge of God' is that which God knows, and what is it that God
    knows ? God knows the truth, he is after all the Creator and
    sustainer of everything, down to the last subatomic particle and the
    great expanses of galaxies in the Universe. 'The knowledge of God' is
    the overarching truth, within which all the different viewpoints are
    also accounted for as views of this or the other person(s) and also
    as sides of this overarching truth (or sometimes, being identified as
    lies, merely empty talk, or a set of errors, etc). The idea being
    that these 'religions' who stress God as a unity God of everything,
    have this principle as a bit of a weapon or truth against the crazy
    idolatry, which has done so much harm to people in the past, such as
    causing delusions and even wars. The unity element: 'Love God above
    all' meaning, love that element which cares about everyone and
    everything, so that you do the same and you can be fair and just to
    all, and even against yourself if you did wrong. From these a bit
    philosophical ideas, you get to this reading that 'the knowledge of
    God' is not knowledge about God itself on its own or as an entity,
    but knowing the truth about this reality, because that is what this
    God knows (about it). Right ?

    Funny how these things converge, but I guess I am simply copying and
    rearranging the existing ideas.

    Why does this ranting matters ? I guess it doesn't, but the point is:
    focus back on the world, we live here and our problems are here. When
    you say 'the knowledge of God' and then you shoot off into some
    bizarre system of Kabbalah, come back here to Earth and first deal
    with the lies of the Rabbis, because the knowledge that the prozbul
    is a fraud is one of these things that God will know, and now you
    should know it as well. You see it from the God perspective, as it
    where. You don't merely see the lazy Judges at the 2nd Temple having
    fewer court cases and more bribes, which they may call "beautiful",
    but you also see how it undermines Israel as a Nation and how later
    they all go down together. The Rabbis may have find it grandiose that
    they now usurped the power to break the Torah and make up their own
    phony laws, but if you look at it from the 'all' perspective, you see
    that they are poisening and destroying their entire Nation, including
    perhaps even themselves.

    Then do something about the things that matter, such as land
    ownership and loans. That is the point. Once all that is done, once
    the world is at peace, we can sit around and play go (Weichi, Baduk),
    or try to understand how heaven works. First dealing with the
    problems, first the work, and then the rest, then the party. Not the
    other way around. Not first the party, and then having such a hang
    over you can't do the work anymore.

    (At this point, I figure even heaven is fed up with my endless rantings, sorry.)
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