• Israel caused the delay in Egypt herself ?

    From Jos Boersema@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 13 19:08:40 2024
    link: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/x4Ib14mVeqE
    source: @RabbiHeschelGreenberg
    title: 🔥 Prepare to be Mind-Blown! The Powerful Revelation of Moshiach
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    Reply ...

    Just a thought about the _when_ ... because we are already in the year
    6 005 now (430 in Egypt, it's in the Torah in case you wonder, and there
    may not be any geneology problem after all). Global Corona lockdown was
    the year 6 000, isn't that amazing ? So we are now 5 years late. 

    How about the issue being, the age of the person supposed to do it,
    which in Egypt was Moshe Rabbeinu. Even though the Jewish people did
    not deserve to be taken out of Egypt because of their bad behavior, it
    may have been necessary to do it eventually, because Moshe Rabbeinu was
    just getting too old ? In any case, it came 30 years after the 400 years,
    30 later than expected. 

    We now see the same (I know that this is not accepted by Israel right now,
    it doesn't matter what you accept or not, it matters what is the truth
    and that's all): a delay, we passed the last year already. What's up
    ? I know for a fact that Israel and the Rabbis have rejected the Torah
    and possibly the Redemption for the last 15 years or so. The Rabbis are
    against the Torah, it is a rebellion: Rambam Shemita 10:8 (a complete catastrophy), prozbul (Hillel the Elder), heter iska (Rambam again),
    and Shabbos candle lighting (a death penalty in the Torah, i leave it
    to you to see why; hint: a _day_ of rest ... get it ? a _day_ ). You
    rejected the Torah, you rejected the Redemption already. It was on time,
    you didn't want it. You don't want peace. You don't want justice. 

    So in similarity to Egypt ... now you look back and I suddenly realize:
    Moshe Rabbeinu started the revolt against the Pharao already, when he
    was 40 ! He killed that guard (somehow I thought it was two?), he killed
    a guard, and his own people where angry about it to him. This was their rejection of Moshe Rabbeinu and what he was going to do, their rejection
    of the Torah. Moshe Rabbeinu showed them the Torah in action, and they
    rejected it. Killing that Egyptian abuser, was the Torah. I think of
    it as the essence of the Torah, because this act sets  Moshe Rabbeinu
    apart from just about everyone. Complete sacrifice of his court position,
    doing the ultimate to defend someone against an abuse, complete disregard
    for his own safety and future.

    I think ... this was the moment that Israel would get out, exactly on
    the year 400, but they themselves refused it. This could have been the
    start of the great Israelite rebellion against the Pharao, and - say -
    10 years later, they march out. But no, the stiff necked people had other plans. They didn't have the courage of Moshe Rabbeinu, or his will for
    justice, because wasn't it a justice that he had done ? He sacrificed
    it all for them. They sacrifited nothing for him, they did not do the
    same back to him, saying: if you touch our man here, we are going to go
    all out on you to the death, even if we will all die.

    Anyway (sorry to get prozaic lol), I thought that this could all be a similarity. Heaven did keep its promise, it was all set to go. 400 years
    in Egypt, done. The way out: set. The man put in place: ready. The Revolt
    is going to happen and ... yawn yawn yawn ... Israel let down.  Some
    guys still decide to leave on their own, but there is no Moshe there to
    teach them peace, so that becomes worthless, as they themselves are not
    willing to set up such a peace.

    Then eventually it happens much later, or 40 years later from that event,
    which would still have needed a certain time to grow into a full leaving
    of Egypt, be that a few months or even the complete 10 years to make the
    400 full. Heaven does indeed keep its promise. It is always and usual,
    always the same, the hard necked stiff necked people who never want
    to listen, who think they know everything better without understanding
    often what they are talking about, and this is now happening again.

    Anyway, if this delay is also limited by the age limit of Moshe Rabbeinu
    in Egypt and 'moshiach' for the final Redemption (now), then there
    isn't a whole lot of time left. Maybe again something in the order of 40
    years or indeed (wow) come to think of it, the Redemption again already
    started some 10 years before the final date, in 5990 (if I am correct,
    but you probably don't know this). 

    I already told you since 2008 or so, that you needed to stop your lying
    about the Torah. 2008 is about the year 5989, isn't it. In 2012 I still finalized the last bits of my program by the way, which would then be
    5992 I guess. It is  all a similar timing, and also a similar result.

    It is basically happening starting 10 years before the final date or
    the set date (400 years Egypt, or the year 6000 from Adam), and then the
    Jewish people are the big let down, the big anti-climax. They refuse. A
    delay then kicks in, which may be limited by the age of the agent in
    charge - so to say. Moshe Rabbeinu was 80 at the leaving of Egypt, but I
    guess 70 or 90 could also have worked ? I don't know, the precision might
    not be to the last year or even 10 years, but more or less a generation
    time at the maximum I suppose.

    This could then mean that, with the Redemption and the Torah rejected by
    Israel at the time they should have accepted it (the year 6000), we now
    enter the delay and punishment phase again, which is limited by the age
    of the agent in question. Since he needed to be ready at the year 6000,
    he cannot be a child then. If we go by the precedent in Egypt, then the Redemption (through hell) should happen in 25 years from now.

    By the way, what is this man talking about ? People's minds being
    shattered because it will be like Sinaii ? I rather hope not ! No,
    I think it is just precisely the opposite. The question is going to be
    so small, you will just overlook it. Only if you care, you will care,
    and by this you will make it. It might come as seemingly worthless as a
    youtube comment, among a great flood of nonsense. The truth, in a small package, only for those who care.

    All the idolators, everyone who wants a big show, who wants to be mindless
    and impressed ... what is it worth ? Is that justice ? Is that peace
    ? Is that the will to listen to your neighbor ? Did Moshe Rabbeinu look
    for a big show, or was he there with his ear to the people, listening to
    those who suffered in silence. Who was a greater show than the Pharao,
    with his temples and his pyramids ? It was not from them that the Torah
    came. The Torah came from an outcast, a refugee in the desert. It came
    from the one who could listen, who cared for that muted message.

    * End reply.

    Continuing on Usenet. Who would have guessed, the Rabbis are wrong
    again. Didn't they say that somehow the Redemption was delayed for an unexplained reason ? Somehow heaven had a slip of mind ? I at least
    never heard the theory proposed above. It just occured to me thinking
    about these delays, and what has happened.

    There you are, you took out an Egyptian abuser. Isn't that the start of
    a riot, and isn't a riot the start of a Revolution ? It can be. I guess
    you can counter this argument by saying 'God' hadn't shown up yet the
    way that happened later. Perhaps that shouldn't have been necessary, if
    the Jewish people had been a better people. Moshe just leads the
    Revolution, understands Justice and the people understand it as well
    after thinking about it carefully. Job done, humanity saved, because
    over the coming thousands of years, slowly but surely the gentiles see
    and start to copy the Jewish people.

    It didn't happen that way, but perhaps it should have, and could have.
    In any case, it was a rebellion of one person: Moshe Rabbeinu, and he
    actually left Egypt, even before the 400 years. He was the one who was
    Redeemed from that already, I guess you could say. Maybe he was too good
    to stay in Egypt one way or the other.

    Who would have guessed, the Rabbis never wanted to figure out that it
    was the Jewish people doing wrong as usual, and not heaven. Heaven
    doesn't fail, heaven keeps all its promises. It knows what it is doing,
    both when keeping them, and when making them. You Israel, are always the problem, and the only problem. The exact same thing now: you blame
    'moshiach' for tarrying, which you completely made up from nothing, but
    it is *you* who are tarrying and messing things up.

    Heaven didn't take Israel out of Egypt after 400 years ?
    Wrong, they did. You Israel, you just refused to go. Later you get
    forced out basically, through all the miracles and the plagues.

    The time of Redemption is now, but 'moshiach' doesn't show up ?
    Wrong, it has all been done already. You Israel, you just refuse to
    listen even to your own Torah (!). Will you be forced ? It seems that
    this is now going to happen, through the next round of punisment, 7
    times worse than the Nazis (the 'autists' also said this, on dani18
    com; over and over and over they said it, just another never ending the
    same message from them, just as with me, over and over the same lol).

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