• Israel is an unredeemable mess. Teshuva ? Torah economy ? Nope.

    From Jos Boersema@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 11 18:06:18 2024
    title: The Final Cry of Yom Kippur
    link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iBrtojemug
    source: Rabbi Isser Z Weisberg

    Reply:

    I don't think it is "ok" anymore, the way it used to be "ok" for Jewish
    people to not be what they are supposed to be, because history continues
    and technologies get developed. While heaven can wait forever, humanity
    cannot and will not. The bombs are too big already, soon we will have
    robotic warfare of autonomous systems and so many other extraordinary technologies above all the amazing things which already exist. All this
    power is in the hands of criminals, because humanity is not good enough,
    and also because Israel has failed her duty to give the example. The consequence at some point is going to be high technological Dystopian
    Tyranny. It will be Hitler and Stalin, with everything from nukes
    (giga weapons) to bio weapons (nano weapons) to robotic weapons of all
    shapes and sizes, plus a weaponized infrastructure and an all consuming surveilance system, and that is only what we know for sure because it
    already exists. Time is up. It also happens to be the year 6.005, from
    tomorrow (430 years in Egypt).

    I thought I take the opportunity to give my verdict on Israel. No
    Redemption, and the main reason is lying about the Torah. I imagine
    someone reading this getting upset: _oh, we don't even read the text when someone accuses our Rabbis of saying they are lying, because it is rude._
    Fine with me, you do not belong in the Redemption then, either. I say it
    how it is, but i don't lift a finger against a Jew - on the contrary. Was
    Moshe Rabbeinu always "nice and smiley", how did HKB'H deal with the
    traitors during the escape from Egypt. Answer: they where killed. Okay
    ? Remember how the Levite (if I recall) drilled a spear through a man and
    woman at the same time, for their fornication and their disloyalty ? So,
    don't be upset when I call lies what they are: lies, and Jewish people
    and their Rabbis if I call you liars, for being liars about the Torah,
    because lies are lies, and you have lied. I do not see how a lying people
    can be Redeemed, in any way (I mean, under any system of righteous law).

    Rambam Shemita 10:8. Repentance ? Nope, nothing. Israel keeps lying. This
    is the overthrow of the Yovel year. Yes ,they just ruined that, and they
    don't even think twice about it. Shocking, reprehensible. Why am I even
    still writing to these people ?! I don't know, I keep hope against hope
    that they will do Teshuvah. With _they_ I mean especially the Rabbis,
    all of them.

    Prozbul. Repentance ? Nope, nothing. This is the overthrow of the 7th
    year debt cancellation for the Jewish poor.

    Heter iska. Repentance ? Nope, nothing. This is the overthrow of the prohibition on rent seeking on loans to another Jew.

    Fake day ending to facilitate Shabbat breaking for everyone in the
    evening. A day goes from night sleep to night sleep. Repentance ? Nope, nothing.

    You should notice a common thread in all these Rabbinical lies: it is
    the economy. It is about money. It is in the interest of the _rich and
    greedy_ to overthrow specifically this part of the Torah, so they can
    keep their money for themselves. It is neither a mistake that all these
    laws have been overthrown by the Rabbis and Israel, and also that I
    complain about it as a group of laws, because I care about poverty and
    war the most. Those forms of suffering need to be stopped, at least for
    the most part.

    Go cry at the 'Western wall', go say 'brachas' (blessings) every other
    breath, give your charity freely, wear whatever you want or put down laws
    that nobody can choose anymore what they can wear: the _rich and greedy_
    don't care too much about all this. Go build yourself two kitchens to
    impress the neighbors, leave a part of your house wall unfinished, it
    doesn't matter to the rich. Better yet, go do that and do it double,
    do it is much as you can, and other things too ... just _don't touch
    their money._ Go wear a box on your head and call yourself holy, that's wonderful as far as the _rich & greedy_ are concerned. What is it to
    them ? They aren't paying for it, and even if they must, it's just one
    minor trinket on a lifetime.

    Being forced to make loans to the poor, loans which will unlikely be paid
    back ... not being allowed to run gambling games with loans against other
    Jews .... not working your servants or cattle for a whole day ... or the
    worst of the worst of it all: not being allowed to buy and own all the
    land that there is ... those are issues close at heart to the _rich &
    greedy,_ that is touching on their wealth, their power. That is a balance
    and safety in the economy they don't need.

    This is how it came to be, that the Rabbis serve the rich, and they
    hold all kinds of beautiful stories about the Torah or its laws, but
    at the end of the day, the _rich & greedy_ get a pass to do what they
    want. The poor go without the help they are entitled to, the _rich &
    greedy_ come to own everything, and then we have "Rebbes" who even dare
    say that the Redemption won't change much of anything for these _rich &
    greedy_ people, but we will see "the godliness in everything". Yeah,
    you think so, nothing much is supposed to change ? Fine, then you have
    what you want already, and you can fantasize whatever fake god you see
    in everything, because you are not listening to what HKB'H told Moshe
    Rabbeinu to tell you. That God, is not the God you are listening to.

    You are a traitorous and hard necked people, who think you can just
    make up law as you see fit. If only you where honest about that, but
    you are not. No repentance, only hard neck, the weapon of silence, not listening to arguments. Therefore: no Redemption. I think no Redemption
    is possible with this mess that is Israel. Since time is up, heaven is
    going to likely have to force the issue, just as "the autists" have said.

    So, there will be an end to the patience, in a sense at least, because
    time is up. The other option is to destroy the whole world, andh start
    from scratch somewhere in the stone age. To basically reset time to, say,
    the year 500 (Jewish count), and do the whole thing all over again. You
    may want to realize that to do that, _also_ requires the death of almost everyone on Earth.

    Hence the way I see it: the plan to destroy humanity entirely until
    the last two or few persons (a few thousands is probably enough to
    end almost all technology beyond the Stone Age) is already essentially
    on. That is the deeper direction, because the alternative to that is high technological hell Dystopia forever, which (incidentally) will _also_
    kill the vast majority of mankind (the criminals already let that be
    known, that this is their plan). What you then get is: while humanity
    is slowly but surely destroyed step by step, it becomes a plan within
    that broader plan to try to force Israel to return to the Torah and -
    basically - safe humanity from being put back in the Stone Age with
    a total world population of (say) 1 million scattered in small bands
    (purely hypothetical number). If Israel does Teshuvah within this broader destruction of humanity, then from that time on it becomes a possibility
    that humanity can stabilize itself with its own technology, and make a
    good success out of that (meaning: Peace & Justice, forever). If Israel
    decides to continue to lie to the bitter end (as they do now), the whole
    thing goes back to the Stone Age, Israel included, or worse (or high technological Tyranny forever, but I hope that will be blocked by heaven).

    Also this high technological Dystopian hell world may come about to
    a degree, to show humanity that there is no future for war and evil,
    and then still hope humans will decide to be good, and then if they
    choose that after all, they can still succeed. If they refuse to learn,
    then eventually it all goes down the toilet and back to the Stone Age
    (if we are lucky). Needless to say, all this death and destruction easily encompasses the second holocaust for Israel, 7 times worse than the Nazis,
    as the punishment section of the Torah already warned.

    After such a punishment, there may be time for another period of some stability, so that Israel can think things over, when 95% to 99% of
    their population has died. Perhaps they will become honest after that,
    and after a time of crying, just as they had after World War 2, which was apparently not enough suffering to make Israel and her Rabbis stop lying
    about the Torah. The lies just keep going, as if nothing is wrong. Then
    when this time period has been wasted, as Israel has done for the most
    part and essentially after World War 2, then the round of punishment
    after that would be 49 Nazi holocausts in one event, and that is so much
    death that you are probably back in the Stone Agen when it is over.

    This is how I see it. I don't say that it has to happen, but this is
    the logic of the situation as far as I can see. I also see an Israel who pretends to have no clue about that they are lying and how dishonorable
    and deceptive they are, and what a liars these Rabbis are with their
    fake Rambam. If someone cannot work up the necessary anger when they
    see these lies by the Rabbis, I question that as a sign that you do not
    belong in a righteous Nation and that you cannot live in Redeemed Israel,
    at all. You would be a liability, because you just don't care. That's
    fine, you do your thing, and leave those who want to be honest to do
    their thing. Go back to Egypt, and finish those 400 - 210 years which
    you are saying have not yet been fulfilled. Sounds fair ?

    "Wie niet horen wil, moet voelen." I am sorry for you Israel, that you
    let it come to this, with your pride & your hard neck, your greed and
    your dishonesty, your little games around the law, and your pretence
    that you are too silly & dumb to understand what is going on. If you
    don't understand it, then work on it, start immideately. Ohhh now I get
    it ... you thought the prophets would never come true, right ? Sorry but,
    I think it will all come true, down to the last letter (God willing). You realize how far you fell, that you no longer have prophets. Rabbis are
    not prophets. You are too dishonest to have prophets, because _you kill
    them_ and you ignore them. There is a power structure in place, which
    kills prophets. Think about that. That is why you have no prophets,
    I guess they saw it coming and they closed the book on you. This is in
    what kind of chaos and mess you are, Israel. Deal with it.

    * End reply. (Had to be shortened for youtube.)

    [Continuing on Usenet.]

    The risks for the coming period are high. The Fascist Trump is probably
    going to win the USA elections, and then there is this "Project 2025" to
    be implemented, which is a purge of the US Government in general from
    more ordinary elements (citizens) toward far right loyalists and the
    like.

    The war in Ukraine continues on a path of longer term escalation, as the Russians move closer to Kiev and the USA with its Vassals (EU, NATO) are probably going to want a broader war out of it. Having the front move
    west is perfect for the USA (the wolrd top criminals I should say),
    because that can be used for escalation when the time comes.

    THe escalation of the Middle East is obvious: Iran ballistic missile
    attack, Zionist army attacking up north into Lebanon. I know that there
    are people there with rockets shooting into Israel, the point is not to
    pick sides here, the point is the escalation itself.

    The hate against the Jewish people is escalating rapidly in the mass
    media, which might lead to another holocaust in time.

    The USA debt is escalating rapidly. Financial destabilization is
    developing step by step.

    The USA is also continuing with the entrenchment of its Imperial States
    over their Vassals: the non stop power grabbing "European Union" (set up
    by Nazis after the 2nd world war), NATO carreer jockeys and surrounding industries have their long hoped for war with Russia and therefore they
    also can pretend to still be relevant and needing more money, etc.

    The only thing which seems to de-escalate to an extend, is the
    repression of drugs such as weed / marihuana, although on the other hand
    the target is now tabacco, to such an extend it is already creating a
    black market all over again (Netherlands). It is good though that a lot
    of people stopped smoking. On balance, nothing is happening though. The criminals still gain huge amounts of profits from the drugs trade having
    been made illegal.

    The anti-USA + Vassals block is also coming together more and more, so
    that the USA has the anvil they need to come down with the hammer of war
    on Planet Earth. It's hard to have a big war, a city destroying war, if
    there is no potent enemy to attack (sorry, I meant "defend against").

    Fascist parties slowly but surely take over in the western world. They
    get their votes because of the real or perceived problem with refugees
    (told you so, those refugees are here to cause that shift, and then to
    create trouble and Divide & Conquer, besides keep wages low & exploit
    them).

    The big question is: why doesn't humanity want to do better, and
    especially Israel. Why don't they want to do better, now that they can
    still think, read, organize, often in a peaceful and secure way. There
    is food, there is stability in the street for the most part still, etc.
    Perhaps a good guess is laziness. They think a madman like Trump or some
    other miracle will save them, and then they would have tired themselves
    trying to do good when it wasn't really needed in the end. Is it that ?
    Is it just a complete lack of creativity, not going what to do ? Is the condition of humanity so bad, that what we now have should already be celebrated over people murdering each other left & right while non stop
    picking fights with each other over nothing and everything ? Take your
    pick i guess. We can all pick our excuse, and then we can all suffer or
    even die together from the things we left undone.

    Is it the job of the ordinary man in the street to stop wars and hold a Government making bad decisions to account ? Is the ordinary man in the
    street to create Peace & Justice wherever he goes, to save the poor & to
    punish the criminals, to call the injust and immoral to account ?

    YES

    Aren't there enough caring people doing enough already ?

    NO

    People usually behave however, as if it is the job of the man in the
    street to look out for themselves, get richer, live a life as easy as
    possible, try to lie to and defraud others as little as possible, The ENd.
    If that is good enough, then I don't know how this humanity has much of
    a future, especially on the relatively short term (decades), which is a
    time frame where very bad things are possible.

    *

    Have a good year, and be inscribed for life. All the best, be happy.
    Return to the Torah or at least stop lying about it already. It says
    what it says. You cannot just make up what it says.

    (I think Israel will be destroyed. Not necessarily this year, but
    probably in the coming years to maximum 2 decades, probably within 10
    years already even. I mean 95% to 99% death rate of Israel, with luck
    maybe somewhere below 90%. How to prevent it: be honest, stop lying
    about the Torah, do as much real Torah as you can (you know, you can
    read that book yourself?), be nice & help your people where you can, be
    a posiive honest good man or woman, be an honest child, and leave the
    rest to heaven. Dig a shelter, store food & water, make friends not
    enemies, but don't make friends with bad people. Make sure that when you
    die, you can look back on a life lived trying to help other people, so
    that you can die in peace and with dignity. Be a "Mensch", is how they
    used to say it. Don't imagine that you can talk reason to Fascists or hysterical gentiles. You just got to be good and if you can, do your
    Torah. IF you did it seriously, the gentiles will probably honor you
    for it, and your God may be there to save you.)

    Oy oy oy ... why does it all have to take so long, why can they not just
    be honest and listen to the truth for the sake of the truth. How can
    they be so confused, how did they confuse themselves this badly. How is
    this even possible.

    Sigh. ;-) lol
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  • From Jos Boersema@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 13 10:15:54 2024
    title: The Final Cry of Yom Kippur
    link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iBrtojemug
    source: Rabbi Isser Z Weisberg

    Someone thanks the Rabbi, and says they hope "we all merit to see the
    arrival of Mashiach this coming year, or as soon as possible....".

    Meanwhile right below it (previous comment), obvious complaints about
    lying Rabbis and how to return to the Torah are written. It is all a
    big joke at this point, I guess. The Rabbis may think I'm the joke,
    and in the end, it will be them because they lied, but there probably
    won't be much laughing anymore, when the consequences have arrived.

    Reply ...

    It was what they wanted to hear.

    Israel does not merrit the Redemption, because the Rabbis are lying about
    the Torah, and when being rebuked on it, they flat out ignore it. The
    next round of punishment will be 7 times worse than the Nazis (Torah
    punishment section). I think 95% to 99% of Israel will be dead within 10 maximum 20 years, but with luck maybe less than 90% (we can always hope)
    unless they change their mind in time. I don't see the realistic chance
    on that anymore, and as has been mentioned: once the fear gets to be a
    panic, it is not possible anymore to do Teshuvah. The people of Israel
    will be consumed by fear, and their own imminent death. It is hard to
    focus on legal issues in such a time of being massacred, thus Teshuvah
    is basically impossible.

    *Now, today, they make the choice for death.* After the punishment is
    over, and perhaps between half to a million Jews may have survived it,
    then eventually if the danger goes away they may begin to rethink
    their lying about the Torah, and some may return to the truth and
    overthroww the Rabbis who are lying to them. This could then become the Redemption. Incidentally, the "autists" have already said it will go this
    way, and it completely looks like they are getting it right, once again.

    The Rabbis promised them the 'moshiach' and Redemption, but it became
    a massive disaster instead. Again, the Rabbis failed. This may finally
    dislogde some honest Jews from the control of the lying Rabbis, so that
    they can see the truth again. If they admit the lies of their own Nation, return to the truth, they can make the Redemption happen (God willing).

    This is what Israel and the world is facing. I told you all many times,
    long before most people had a clue about how wrong this world is, but now
    they finally start to get a sense of where this is all going. It is going toward global nuclear war, economic collapse, attempts at Tyranny all
    over the world probably, and so on. Some sources (also native American)
    predict even much worse than this. So bad a day that you cannot survive
    it on the surface of the Earth.

    These are the consequences of playing dumb and loving evil. The humans
    think they are going to conquer the Cosmos, and to enslave it to their
    evil. I guess what is to come, is their answer. People should grow a
    brain already, and be alert to religious bosses telling them what they
    want to hear, although also on the other hand, putting them down at every
    turn is also bad (western idolatry ignorance is doing both, by the way,
    but that's another story).

    * End quote.

    [Continuing on Usenet.]

    It is easy to be upset and make harsh statements against the lying
    Rabbis; which is already quite harsh, but on the other hand, it's not
    just lying what they do, it is crime, Rabbinial Judaism is criminal
    under the Torah: prozbul and heter iska break the law and equal theft,
    while Rambam SHemita 10:8 is even worse, which is the theft of land, and
    this doesn't just damage a Nation or a group within (such as the poor),
    or causes a shift toward greed. This theft of land, this destruction of
    the right to land, it ends a Nation, as indeed it has in the case of
    Israel. They still linger on in the exile, but they are refugees now, a minority within another Nation. I guess they are still a Nation somehow,
    but without that essential part which they started stealing from each
    other: the land itself, which is basically everything. Thus, they lost everything, because they started stealing "everything" (the land) from
    each other.

    It has also been proven without a doubt, I hope, that heaven does no
    longer talk to these fools already for some 21 centuries or so, or
    whenever the last 'Prophet' happened. They don't listen, they don't care
    for the truth, one way (by Torah, or even by "prophecy" for that
    matter), or the other (by logic, by secular analyses of the topics at
    hand). It is easy to be angry with the Rabbis, but it is still possible
    that some of them will do Teshuvah from having followed the liars Hillel
    and Rambam, especially when they see their Nation (or what's left of it) largely destroyed. Largely destroyed here doesn't mean a few bombs on
    some cities or like a big disaster, but rather like the Nazis. An
    organized campaign by the State and Armies to destroy the Jewish people,
    with possible mass hysteria to back it up. 7 times worse than the Nazis,
    since the Torah says that. The reason to fear it so much, to believe it
    is possible, is also because already so many pogroms happened, and still
    the Nazis did what they did. It was still possible in more or less
    modern times.

    Heaven was right to no longher talk directly to the Jewish people for so
    many centuries, because they don't listen and don't seem to care. They
    think they know better, without putting any effort into that knowing.

    I was thinking if I should increase the pressure, by making in-your-face postings to Internet places people actually might be reading, or even
    sending a letter which needs to be received by signature, or even going
    face to face with a Rabbi and alerting them to their own lies. Perhaps I
    should do that, but the reason would be more about trying to avoid
    Israel from blaming me later for not having tried hard enough, than to
    expect any result from it.

    Isn't this a readable letter ? After all this time, they couldn't
    conduct a search on the Internet ? They don't read their e-mail either,
    because I send various e-mails to people over the years as well ? I even
    once offered my book at a Shul (it was denied), and at another shul as
    well (never heard back from it). These where first versions of the book
    though, and not so much targeted at Rabbinical lying about the Torah.
    Recently I aven gave my second version of the book to a Jewesse. Never
    heard back from it yet, either; this is months ago. There are
    practically no Jews living here. Even all the Shulls are under the
    control now of western idolators. The Nazis destroyed almost all the
    Jews here - which is of course incredibly sad. Once a Jewish couple
    lived above me, but I didn't dare talk to them, sorry. I have no clue if
    they would have cared, or if it would merely have meant to make trouble
    with your own neighbors.

    Well, I guess I can try to say goodbye again, and hope it will in the
    end all work out for the best, for the minority of survivors who choose
    to stop lying about the Torah, and start caring about the truth, with
    the few who probably have always cared and perhaps even always known.

    You should go to these 'autists' and especially Bejamin Golden (was his
    name?), and ask for help there. I think he is very smart and precise and
    loyal, very accurate and without any frills, without any regard around
    it other than the pure truth. However, if you continue to play fools,
    you probably won't even understand what he is talking about, right ?
    Because you messed up your Torah, even though it was in your hand, you
    could read it yourself, it was clear and obvious, and it was within your ability to do it. Then when you mess it up and its gets pointed out to
    you, you pretend not to notice.

    What is heaven to do with a people like this, on the brink where
    humanity is going to create wars and Tyrannies which are likely going to
    be much more destructive and dangerous than ever before, or if you want
    to put it in another way; what is heaven to do with this species which
    is set to get into space between the stars, probably at least within the
    coming 1.000 years (unless these fools first destroy themselves). How
    are you going to fight high technological Tyranny, or even the self
    destruction of mankind with its abuse of its ever more owerful technologies?

    Look, they are talking about 'Basic income' all the time (I just saw a
    document from Dutch National Ministers mentioning it seriously, from
    last year). Basic income means all the power goes to one point. It is a
    crazy dictatorial plan, to grab even more power for the top cliques.
    Left with population thinks it is their plan, yet of the two signing
    Ministers, one is center Right, and the other is of a more hardened
    western idolatry kind. You see why this happens ? Because you do not
    live the example. You have denied each other the right to land, you
    stole each others land. This is why these gentiles are flaundering
    about. You need to give the example.

    On the topic of how to fight this Tyranny: see signature. That is how
    you can do it, and I think you probably should, or at least familiarize yourself with it already, while you can do so.

    Instead of the worst happening to you, Israel, being some study and then
    some meetings, while you walk in peace and with a smile into the
    Redemption without even almost realizing that it is happening ... it
    will be a knife in the night, it will be heart stopping fear to live
    through, or die. You don't take it serious now, it seems. When you
    realize it finally, it will probably be too late for many of you.

    If you do not want the truth and the peace, nothing can or even should
    save you. Don't you understand that ? Well, I guess, of course you
    don't. You stopped caring for the truth a long long time ago, didn't
    you. You absolutely gruesome punishment is probably up next over the
    coming decade or two (or who knows, it's just a wild guess), and over
    this time you are probably going to put up a bigger cry for 'moshiach' ?
    Are you going to blame your God again, for what you think is Him not
    sending you 'moshiach' ? You think you can have your Redemption, without
    caring for the truth, by continuing the lies of Hillel and Rambam, to
    live in a Nation with a messed up and wrongheaded economy ? It cannot
    work. You *already* live that kind of a Redemption. What you have *now*
    is the Redemption of your Hillel and your Rambam, the Redemption of
    lies. You want that solidified and approved by heaven, and you think
    this 'moshiach' will do that for you, and then you will be militarily
    safe and that' sit ? This mess is to be the example Nation, without the
    right to land even, which is so critical ? With the overthrow of the
    rights of the poor, and the rich just getting more and more out of
    control because of it ? No real rest day either, damaged the Shabbat
    seriously ? You have that already, with all the Tyranny, bloodshed and
    wars that come with it, with the holocausts and annihilations that it
    comes with. You have what you want, you have what fits your choices, so
    stop asking for something better without doing the work for it.

    You want Redemption & 'moshaich' ? Then start caring for the truth, for
    the peace. You did that already ? No, you did not. If you think you do
    that's just another lie. Use your head, use your mind, give it a little
    effort instead of just sitting there like a bird watching the clouds.

    There is nothing more to say. The ball is in your court. You have to
    act. You have to think and act - to listen (understand) and do. If you
    want to investigate and start liking my proposal (see signature), it
    will be similar to the Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu, which apparently also
    first was studied and then agreed to, and then it was done. You should
    not worry too much about it being a difficult project, or very difficult
    to make practical. It is a system which naturally grows up from small
    seeds all over the place at the same time, individuals, small groups.

    The right to land, which is a big problem right now, you can already
    start on this as an individual. Perhaps more importantly, the setting up
    of its Government structure naturally integrates with itself from the
    bottom up. First you have two persons, than five, and maybe it will
    stagnate for you at 8 persons only for years. That's fine if that's all
    it is. Maybe later it grows and it becomes several thousand, and it all stitches itself together more or less naturally; socially that is,
    according to its rules and how you make use of those rules. Then we have
    anti Tyranny activity, which is also modularized and can be done in a
    small way, while also integrating with each other step by step. It is in
    that sense quite different from leaving Egypt, where things started from
    the top, and then came down. This is the precise opposite: it starts
    from you, at the bottom or I should say, at the foundation, and then it
    just grows and integrates with itself naturally. To do fair trade is an individual activity, and to set up democratic co-operative businesses or businesses which will become that later is also an activity of
    individuals and smaller groups. Political parties also comes in a swarm pattern, not one big party with a boss, but many.

    Oh then this one big boss of yours, which you always want. A human King,
    so that you can depose your God, dethrone HKB'H. This element of the
    Government structure is not so easy to start or integrate from street
    level. You cannot just start up with many King claimants I guess,
    although if you are peaceful enough you can actually do that as well.
    If you have multiple regions which already elected a King for
    themselves, then the integration of those regions and this particular
    element happens by having new elections for the 'Electoral Committee',
    and then probably quite a few of these Kings will be part of that, and
    one is the oldest and he is then the 'King Elect' (who has basically no
    power in this system). Some of the others then get their chance later,
    perhaps. Obvioussly there is a risk that some 'Kings' will be upset
    about loosing some power, but it should be noted that this is very much
    unlike what normally was called a King. This is getting a bit detailed.
    I don't think you should worry about it too much, but you can think
    about this topic as well if you want. To already achieve Sovereignty for
    the National Council in this election model, would be a major
    achievement, and the more important part of the Government (by far). You
    can just wait with this King you want, until you have at least the vast majority of Israel in it.

    How all this would work out in practice exactly, remains to be seen, of
    course, but you can see how it is necessary to not be liars. Can you get
    a sense of that already ? You cannot be a Natino of Fools, who pretends
    that 'declare the Jubilee to all the inhabitants of the land' means 'all
    the Jewish people should live in Eretz Yisroel and that National
    Sovereignty for there to be a Jubilee'. This rape of language really,
    how can you have any conversation even with a people like this, let
    alone make decisions together.

    Person A: I want a new bridge at such and so location.
    Persnon B reacts with: But why do you want another bride, arent' two
    wives enough for you ?!

    Huh ? Oh, he chose to read 'bridge' instead 'bride' and made up his own meaning. Why ? Because that's the Jewish thing to do, see Rambam ?!
    Insane, bizarre and stupid.

    If you are a people who read 'You shall nullify the loan in the 7th
    year for the poor' as meaning 'You do not have to nullify the loan in
    the 7th year if you have a stamp from the court', then it's lost. This
    kind of idiocy makes Governing as such impossible. Let's say the
    Government makes a law; on the big streets the maximum speed is 50 km/h
    for all motorized vehicles. Then the masses of Israel react with: but we
    put a sticker behind our windshield saying that we are not a motorized
    VEHICLE but a motorized CONTRAPTION, and then actually the police and
    courts agree with this, and the next step is that the Government itself
    agrees with it as well. Bizarre, it's a clown world, a world of bad
    jokes.

    If you cannot be honest and use words correctly, how can you rule by conversation, which is essentially what a democracy is about. Do you
    *want* to live in a Tyranny ? Then don't complain and accept what you
    already have. I don't think it is going to be good enough, though.
    Humanity in this state is not going well: the wars, the Tyrannies, and
    that with modern technology. I do not see how it can work out well, but
    that might just be me. See you later perhaps, if you change your mind in
    the future.

    You see how it is all up to you, at least in the view presented here ?
    You thought you could just be a cog in a big mass, and all you had to do
    was idolize your new King, right ? Just rant and rave with the rest
    around you, it would be your hero against the heroes of the Nations, and
    you basically would have to do little more than follow a bunch of laws
    put down upon you from above. You would then do that partially, just as
    you always have done, and that would be it. That's what you think ? If
    you read the above, you see that it is a more involved for you, it is
    more about you and what you do and what you cause to happen. How you
    live, how active you are in this public and economic life, and what you
    are doing with it for yourself and others exactly. It is a system of
    life, so to say, it is alive, it is a lively system of economics and the
    State. It is from below, from you, to yourself, to those around you, and
    to the Nation and then from there even to the all of humanity. Not so
    much from above to below, except perhaps that the truth is the truth.
    The truth is the unifying element, but even that doesn't come from
    above, but from below. You read that right now or at least I hope so. It
    comes from below, without credibility. You have to care for the truth
    for truth sake, to care about it. You need to be a carrier of the truth
    for truth sake, for jUstice & Peace sake, and then that would activate
    this greater unity and activity, this life.

    Perhaps there is a beauty in this, that when Moshe Rabbeinu came it was
    from above, and now this comes from below, like our answer, saying: yes
    we want peace, we shall do and we shall hear, we shall live the truth.
    This is our answer: we choose peace, a peace and life for everyone. Yes
    God of Moshe Rabbinu and of Abraham, you have been right all along, what
    you said was peace, the truth and Justice for all, and this is our
    answer from the people: to be a good people, a people of Justice &
    Happiness for all, for us and for all mankind, forever.

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