Hello 'Welcome Committee Moshiah',

Today I found your website. I feel obligated to write you, not because it
will likely serve any use at the moment, but I do not want to be blamed
by you or your people later for not giving you a chance to reject what
I am proposing and arguing (below and elsewhere), so that the guilt
of delaying the possible Redemption will be on you, and not on me. I
am sorry if this sounds strange and self serving, or you are already
tired of another "moshiach claimant". That is fine, you can put this
message in the spam immediately. I expect nothing, but I need to have
tried, that is all (for given reason). Just delete this message and save ourselves the trouble. You don't care anyway, right ? It's all just a
shell game. You have been programmed to wait for "moshiach', and that's
just one of the hollow and meaningless rituals left over from the past,
and that's all. Have a great day, good bye. ;-)

It means nothing to me if you think what I propose is not true. Save
yourself the trouble and do not even bother a reply if you don't agree.

First things first: Hillel the Elder legislated the prosbul, which
pretends to cancel the 7th year debt cancellation in the Torah. This
is treason. Hillel may have tipped the scales with it, and caused the
exile. If you worship Hillel as Rabbis worship Rambam, just delete this
e-mail now. You can just call me an anti-semite in your mind if you like,
all good.

IF you lack the courage and determination to overthrow the prosbul and overthrow a similar device created by Rambam/Maimonides called the "heter iska", I don't see how you can be Redeemed. Rather, the curses section in
the Torah must come true again. 7 times worse than the Nazis. I speculate
95% of all of you will die. There may still be a number of years before
this happens, so perhaps you can still do somethnig about it. Repent
from the prosbul and the heter iska, repent from having listened to
traitors such as Hillel the Elder (a mirror image of Jeebus the Bastard,
the western idol), and repent from the heter iska and Rambam / Maimonides.

Other treasons are: the Lamp of Helena, this is Sun disk idolatry. It
is quite possible that not the prosbul, but the Sun disk idol, was the
breaking point which destroyed the 2nd Temple. I don't know, you'd have
to ask Hashem. How Serious this is, you can see in the so-called Temple Institute, who remade the idol and wishes to put it on a 3rd Temple. They
want to dedicate the 3rd Temple to the Sun. Nobody in their right mind
needs to hear the babble around it, as why it wasn't idolatry. The
device reflected the sun, right from the inner building its gate. Case
closed. I suspect the Jewish people at the time where angry with HKB'H
for causing a famine, and when this Queen Helena brought some fruits to
relief the suffering, they decided to break with HKB'H and irritate him
with an idol on the 2nd Temple. Not long after, the current exile began.

So, in my view, now you know why you are in exile. If you lack the
courage to overthrow these treasons because you "want to fit in" or
whatever else such as a will to serve the rich and greedy above HKB'H,
the truth, the peace and justice, then now you know that you belong in
the exile. You create the exile around you. If you where to be put in
a Redeemed Israel, you would recreate the exile around you, by way of
stupidity (idolatry is stupidity, in my view), and greed (Hillel the
Elder and Rambam teach greed and law breaking). I think this is why
the Jewish people have been cursed by the Jeebus the Bastard religion
from the west, because this Jeebus is a mirror for Hillel the ELder
(the traitor). "Oh he is so friendly", but he was also lawless and law breaking, law overthrowing. Just like Jeebus, crazy like Jeebus. HKB'H
helped you in this way, so that you would learn a hatred for this idol
and his lies, and perhaps you would understand that it is really Hillel
the Elder and later Rambam / Maimonides, who are the same.

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If you still read this, and agree with me: please accept my apologies
for writing a strange and seemingly rude e-mail. I have been going at
these topics since about 2008 or so. It gets frustrating, to deal with
the fraudulent aspects of Rabbinical Judaism, the failure to respond
by this people, and their refusal to correct themselves no matter how
obvious it is made to them.

I also propose this, which is my website: http://market.socialism.nl
Even if you don't agree with this right now, I appreciate it if you
downloaded it. It is all free. You never know, this might be it ? I also
do not know for a certainty, but I doubt things like this: why would
HKB'H hurt someone like I have been hurt, and how many people really
need to write down a program like this in the world ? You only need one
to do it. There is a lot more than just that thought, but there is a
problem. I don't agree with the 'moshiach' game. I feel it is cheating.

You need to want to be good and true on your own. Use your head, it is
not that difficult. How should an economy function (my topic of interest
is economics and war, because I feel poverty and war are the main causes
of unnecessary suffering in the world). If you think about things, or
even go to a decent University, it shouldn't take you long to realize
the land cannot be sold in perpetuity, but must be a right to all. Hence:
the Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu is TRUE. The Torah is science. the Torah is
great. This is how you should operate. This is how we move forward, and
deserve to have the power of this ever improving technology all around
us. Throwing stones became spears became intercontinental missiles with
dozens of nuclear bombs on them. This is a very serious issue. Humanity
needs to start behaving, or destroy themselves. Part of behaving as a
decent species: figure it out. Figure out how an economy should work,
and do it.

Instead what we see: idolatry to Hillel the Elder, Rambam and just
mindless activities which serve an ever smaller clique of psychos with
all the money in the world. If you do not want to use your heads on the
topics themselves, that's fine. Just suffer the coming periods of wars
and Tyrannies, hello on Earth, and hope that at the end of it there will
still be a few humans left to dig around for roots and able to make a
basic fire, before we all die out. It's not that serious ? I think it
could be a lot worse: the psychos of power want an ever lasting Tyranny,
in which they control the slaves with great technological powers. It
looks like they can actually do it, thanks to the stupidity of mankind. At
that point, total annihilation might be what the people ask for.

By figuring it out with your head, you proof that you care.

By not figuring it out with your head, you proof that you do not care.

See the point ? This is why I have problems with this 'moshiach' game. It
is like cheating. It is like giving solutions to people who fail to
focus on the problems, and deal with them head on. You want tricks,
you want miracles, and then someone will figure it all out for you,
and that should somehow be good enough.

Then again: who am I to make decisions on this Earth, and who am I to
argue the Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu, a book that is so great. If this is
what heaven wants with the Jewish people, then so be it. Run the game, run
the cheat sheet as it where, and see how it goes. You should know though,
that I propose my program purely rationally. You should think about
the program, and try to understand it. That which you both understand
and agree to, only that you should do. Anything else, you should not
do. First think and study. I suggest to be careful, if not very very,
very careful. I don't know how much time there still is to do careful
thinking, but well, since 2012 (when I basically finalized my program),
already another 12 years had passed, another 12 years wasted. You could
have used those years to think about a few things.

Perhaps this will be the fix to the fix: if the Prophets point to this proposal, which you could then do without thinking and thus avoiding to
meet the challenge of this world, but it is part of the proposal to very carefully think about it and only do what you comprehend / agree with,
then maybe it can all still work out in the end.

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This brings us to the issue of 'moshiach', and I found it funny how
many things you wrote which match me as a person. Now you probably think
"here we go again, anoher nutcase thinks he is moshiach", but I hope you
can also appreciate how things look from the other side. I also think:
"here we go again, mindless Jews who are lost in their idolatry to their
fake Sages, who don't even care one way or the other, not for the Torah,
not for what is a reasonable political/economic proposal". Sorry if you
sense some of my frustration over the years.

To dispel the obvious charge: in the system is given a system of State,
which includes a King Elect. You can elect your House of David there,
and give this individual a palace to live in, etc. I am not electable
to that position, thanks. I do not need your palace, and I do not need
your money either, and I also don't need your subservience either. I
look for honest people who want to live, who don't bow their heads to
anyone and certainly also not to me. I don't need it, I don't want it,
in fact I despise it. I'm just another guy, who happens to have had a lot
of time, perhaps a little too much, to do some thinking, and that's all.

I can list reasons why I seem to match the story in the Tanach about 'moshiach', because I read it and I thought: they describe my life here,
and what I want to do also. I was working on the project (see website,
the Constitution and all that), and I decided to check up on what the
enemies are doing, who want Tyranny and hell on Earth, the criminals
basically, hence I bought a Jesus bible book and a Quaran, because I
feared they where going to interfere with the program and bring out
their Tyrant and start killing everyone. Best be prepared, right ?

Well, after I sipped through those books a bit to get an idea, I bought
a Tanach. I was very impressed by it, and I knew it had a true and good
economy (my project is essentially about the economy). I was very happy to
have found such a great people: Israel. I even thought of converting. I
wanted to buy a Talmud, but I was scammed and the books never came. I
bought a Shulchan Aruch, and then I was shocked, because I discovered
your lies: prosbul, heter iska. Now I knew that you had betrayed the
Torah. Since then I try to get you - Israel - to stop lying about the
Torah, and do Teshuvah, return to your Torah. You simply don't care. In
any case, while reading I noticed that it was more or less describing
my life, when talking about this thing which is supposed to happen,
although it is quite cryptic.

I found it funny that I am born on 14th April 1974, 1:05 in the night
(AM), Netherlands, and that this is also "moshiach day" the 8th day of
Pesach 22 Nissan (but correct me if I'm wrong), and it is also Easter or something in the Eastern church, and it is also Easter in the western
church. I couldn't say anything before, mind you, but now the program
is ready, and so I can say whatever I want.

I see how dumb the Nations are, and it is Israel who already did a correct economic model at least on land distribution, and also on finance. While idolatry is high in Israel, the Torah is still against Kingship (quite
to the contrary to what I sometimes hear). I have tried a lot with
some other Nations to argue with them, but it seems to me that Israel
will be the best if not only candidate to get serious with things, and
then lead by example. The Torah you can do, you can also do my program,
or you can even do both.

I will try to run through what you are writing, quote your text and
comment on it.

Moshiah

This platform compares the prophecies about the ‘Messy-anic’ times
and the concept of the person who is referred to as the Moshiach or
Mashiakh (Hebrew: משיח‎), Messiah (Greek: μεσσίας), Mahdi (Arabic: ٱلْـمَـهْـدِي‎) aka Emam Zāman (Farsi: امام زمان), Maitreya (Sanskrit: मैत्रेय), Saoshyant (Avestan: 𐬯𐬀𐬊𐬳𐬌𐬌𐬀𐬧𐬝), Ram or Rama (Sanskrit: राम), Kalki (Sanskrit: कल्कि), Babiyye (Farsi: بابیه‎; English: Bábism), and Li Hong (Chinese: 李洪), and so on.

The main theme of the messianic times is widely acknowledged to be
the triumph of “light over darkness” and the “establishment of justice.” Here are some other insights from Judeo-Chrislamic sources:

I think the Jeebus the Bastard religion is a total and complete

fraud. See "Ceasar's Messiah" on youtube. I think it is a curse upon
the Jewish people, who are guilty of having followed Hillel the Elder,
who overthrew the Torah. I hope we can end this fake religion forever. I
also hate it for personal reasons, since I was brought up in it, by the
way. The Islam is at least its own thing. There seems to be good in it
and truth, but it isn't working for us Dutch people. It is not meant
for us. Islam as well as the Jeebus the Bastard religion, both accuse
the Jewish people correctly for being greedy, and also the Jewish people
accuse themselves this way, which is also correct (the exile is caused
by greed and baseless hatred). I don't know much or anything about
Islam really, sorry. There is some kind of hidden Imam or something,
I have not much clue about it.

[...]

Sources Final Redeemer, Smell and Judgment

The Judeo-Chrislamic sources also agree on another fundamental principle:
The final redeemer associates scent with the concepts of judgment and
justice. The Jewish authorities, which define smell as the sense of
Moshiah, indicate: “… he will judge by smell.” Various Islamic
sources state: “The Mahdi .. will have a broad, clear (of hair) forehead
and a sharp nose and will fill the Earth with fairness and justice …
.” People often confuse the quality of his nose for its shape, using
terms like narrow, pointed, straight, aquiline, snub, or prominent.

I do have a bit of a sharpy nose (I'm sorry to say), and a bit of

a clear forehead I suppose (not sure what that means though). I once
read somewhere that the hand is bigger than the head, and this is kind
of true or roughly similar (I'm not a tailor). I hope you realize this
is all kind of awkward and weird. I propose logic about economics,
I prefer to talk about arguments and what we should do.

Sources The unWanted

It is crucial to note that Judeo-Chrislamic sources prophesied that the entire world would be baffled and have a tough time believing that this person should be their redeemer. Rabbi Shneur Zalman of Liadi, one of the greatest Jewish mystics and founder of Chabad, was asked: When will the redeemer finally come? The Alter Rebbe lowered his eyes to the ground
and said softly: “But how can he come? The redeemer that everyone
wants isn’t coming, and the redeemer that is coming, nobody wants.”

This already became true. You don't want to be rebuked, you don't

want to hear that your Hillel and Rambam are deceivers and liars. You
don't want to stop serving the rich. You just go back to your Rabbis,
fit in with the community, and await the next round of curses, 7 times
worse than the last, and after it, you plan on doing it all over again,
to the bitter end. Right ? Since 2008 or so, I already try to talk sense
to you (you, Israel) about the prosbul. Almost never a reply, the less
than a hand full of replies I ever received, all lead to nothing. You
don't want to hear what I say.

You want a 'moshiach, who tells you how good you are. You reject someone
who tells you what you need to do better.

At this point you have rejected my proposal for many years, something like
15 years or so. Incidentally during the time I of course also did other
things, and I often try to compute (as I call it) what the evil ruling
class will do. I said many times it will become World War 3 with Russia,
and now many people may have forgotten, but back then they thought nothing special about Russia and certainly didn't expect war. I said already: it
will be war with Russia, because there is nobody else to have a war with,
and they need a war because they are destroying the economy with their
debt games and money printing. They will also likely add China to Russia, because otherwise Russia wouldn't be strong enough and not enough people
will die. I have said, on the record this is, impossible to delete on
Usenet, that I think World War 3 will start between 2018-2023. I had a
bet with my brother (but this was never published so you can ignore it),
that World War 3 will start before 2022 / 2 / 2, 22:22:22 (2nd Februari
2022, 22:22:22 hours), and this was long before the Obama Nazi coup in
Kiev. Russia attacked roughly in those days. This is a counter-offensive,
mind you, against the American conquest of Ukraine in 2014 by way of a
bloody coup, but that's another story.

You see that what I said came true. I also said things about what is still
the future, and you can check them later if you want. I think they will
likely crash the economy under Biden, bring Trump in as a Fascist, run
World War 3 a nuclear global war, and then possibly bring Obama out as
a UN boss to unite the world in peace & love, but all fake of course. I
don't say it has to go like that, but this is how the enemy is probably planning their operations for a fixed and established global Tyranny. You should read United Nations Declaration of Human Rights article 29 section
3, by the way. If you do not understand that this article implies total Tyranny, I guess there is no more hope.

Source The unAppreciated

Based on various Biblical examples, Rabbi Mendel Kessin, who also holds
a Ph.D. in psychology, suggested in his 2016 lecture that “A messianic figure is always despised.” Rabbi Kessin pointed out Joseph, who was imprisoned; Moses, who had to run away from Egypt; and King David, who was despised many times in his lifetime. “Many Messianic figures, they come
out of nowhere!” Rabbi further claimed everyone expects the Messiah to
be this incredible, scholarly, righteous and great personality. “Yeah, eventually he will be, but he’s the guy that you don’t even look at twice. That’s who the Moshiah is.”

I have been the one put down, it was very painful. In class I was

always the hated one, for 12 years. Then when I broke, they lied about
me in hospital and blamed me, [...]

The unEarthly Various prophecies claim that

the final redeemer is “arriving on the cloud.” This misunderstood
term led to belief in a supernatural event. Yet, Maimonides (Rambam),
in Mishneh Torah, Kings and Wars 12:1, writes that the messianic era
will not contain any paranormal phenomena. However, another messianic prediction suggests that ‘adults will learn from the youth’ in
that era. Indeed, nowadays, any teenager could clarify that “the
cloud” refers to resources such as information or services from a
website over the internet available to remote users worldwide. The term “cloud” also clarifies another prophecy: Redeemer’s words will be communicated “from one end of the world to the other.” Nonetheless,
other prophecies count that the Moshiah “will be poor” and “will
ride upon a donkey,” which informs on his financial situation and the
speed of his progress, namely, slow.

I am basically at the economic minimum in the Netherlands, but I think

this is actually quite good still. I don't think of myself as poor. I
have no job because I am hurting too much, so I am on welfare. While
I am recovering from incredible mental stress / pain (indescribable),
this recovery is unbelievably slow, like a few percent or less per
year. Very steady and crazy slow.

I don't have a donkey, sorry. I do ride my racing bike though, a lot. I
am trying to join the races, and did a few already. I am talking about
a sport of which the highest level is the Tour de France. I do not ride
my bike out of some delusion about moshiach. I don't care, that's your
game. I saw the world will go to garbage, and I started to train for
war. During the corona fake pandemic I couldn't do my walk training, and
I saw my 20 year old bicycle in the shed again. [...]

According to Isaiah 60:22, God, however, promises “to hasten”

(Akhishena; אחישנה) suddenly Moshiah’s progress “at its
time” (Beita; בעתה), meaning at a ‘specific time’. We might speculate this ‘specified time’ based on the name of ADaM (אדם),
which stands for Adam – David – Moshiah according to the Jewish tradition. As David was at the midpoint, we can double the respective
dates: David’s birthday in the Hebrew calendar, 2854 X 2 = 5708
(1948 Gregorian calendar), represents the rebirth of Israel (see also
Ets HaShalom). At the same time, II Samuel 5:4-5 tells us that David
started his reign over the entire Israel at the age of 37.5; therefore,
(2854 + 37.5) X 2 = 5783. However, based on DVYD’s calculation, the
cosmic conception starts on 2023-07-26 (Tisha B’Av 5873), and the
“Birth Pangs of the Messianic Era” will hopefully end after the last
day of Passover, by 2024-05-01, which is Global Labor Day.

I have tried to work on everything as fast as humanly possible. Always

with this "fast fast fast" and "now now now" in mind. Rambam / Maimonides,
the traitor, also lied to you about this, claiming that 'moshiach' will be 'tarrying'. You need to stop with this liar Rambam. Stop your idolatry,
thanks. Yes, it is idolatry. What is the source for 'moshiach tarrying'
? You have the Torah. If Moshe Rabbeinu wanted to give you "thirteen
principles of faith", he would have had no problem writing it down.

Rambam goes into the garbage.

Hillel the Elder goes into the garbage.

The Lamp of Helena goes into the garbage.

This is what you should do right away, if you have any sense, knowledge
of the Torah, and fear of heaven.

I don't discuss the prosbul or heter iska now in depth, because of how
deeply offensive and what a joke it all really is, but also because this insanely long post would get 10 more pages. I have discussed the prosbul probably hundreds of times elsewhere.

The unOrthodox

Rabbi Shneur Zalman of Liadi stated that the redeemer is one of the
Misnagdim (Opponents of the ‘religious’ people). The “anointed
one” will probably be an ‘annoying one’ to most religious
leaders. Many corrupt clerics will probably fight him for fear of
losing their power or the interest group they serve. The Creator’s
ultimate desire is our harmony, and olfactory-based gauging enables transparent, personalized achievement of this goal, as per the mystical teachings. Faith leaders must align their teachings with the Creator’s ultimate will. Instead of placing blind trust, individuals can analyze
the leader’s guidance.

Yes, that is me. I oppose religions usually and by nature. The

idolatry, the craziness, and their lack of support and action when we need
to do something for exploited people or a war, etc. However, keep in mind
I was brought up in the Jeebus the Bastard fake religion. I do respect
the Torah a lot, now that I understand economics better, and I can see
how good it is. I used to curse at 'god' a lot, but I changed that, out
of respect for the work of Moshe Rabbeinu and all the great prophets, etc.

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Also check out, by the way: dani18.com. They also warn you to get out
of the USA asap.

Have a great day.

Jos

I am sorry for writing this email. I hope you can forgive me. ;-)

[Added on Usenet. I'm sorry to say, but the amount of times the things
said about 'moshiach' match me, is extensive and it just keeps on
coming. There is also the issue that nobody else does anything, and the
time to have had it done is already over, because we seem to be past the
year 6 000. I apologize that you, Israel, may have to deal with me in
this case. On the other hand, you don't know me, and maybe I'm not so
bad as you thought I am. I also note, you don't have to deal we me,
because everything is about logic first, and everything else doesn't
matter. You don't have to care or deal with me at all. It is like the
Torah I guess: a written law, you can read it yourself, and understand
it. It is not that difficult, at all. An honest child can probably
understand most and the most important parts of it without much trouble.

I find it funny that this Usenet group is such a 'shit hole' (excuse my
bad words), but this is precisely the reason I can post here. If Rabbis
ruled this place, I would have been banned ages ago, as they did throw
me out of the 'moderated' group also "to protect their children", yet
those children will likely soon die violently in the 2nd holocaust, also
thanks to these people who refused to listen and do. When it has all
happened, you will eventually understand. You caused your own deaths.
Nobody is tarrying, except you. Nobody is being a fool here on teh side
of the good, but you are a fool, Israel. I think you will understand too
late, when most of you are dead. I tried to warn you, and showed you a
way out, but you thought without thinking that you knew better. I guess,
you thought too highly of yourselve, and this pride made you look down
on others including me, and also you look down on Moshe Rabbeinu,
raising a traitor in Egypt like Maimonides to his stature and great accomplishments. You don't want to hear this, because of your pride. As
the "autistst" said: try to be humble. You need to humble yourselves, to
your God that is (obviously), because only when humble enough are you in
a state to accept a correction, a rebuke. You have to non-stop practice
being humble, and look for cues and ideas which correct your behavior.
Then you may find this Redemption of yours, and your 'moshiach', whoever
it is. You think it is all about this 'redeemer', but this is false. It
is all about the truth. The redeemer is one who cares about the truth, and
if you did that, you would be the redeemer yourself already.

I don't understand why you are in love with lies like the prosbul,
but you know full well that you have become a liar because of it. You
can't worm yourself out of that one. It is too blatant, it is an open rebellion, and to say it isn't, you only add lies to your lies, and make
it even worse. Such a great people, following such a pathetic lie. Why
do you lower yourself this way. Do you want to be housepets in the world
to come, untrustworthy to make your own decisions ? Are you that lost,
like a cat reading the Torah, clearly seeing little else but some weird smelling object, which has little other use than to sharpen your nails
on ? Does it upset you to read this ? If so, you have sided with the
wrong people, and your pride makes you unable to say something like
"yes, it is horrible how THEY have been lying." If this angers you, that
is probably a sign that you are not worthy to be redeemed right now.
Whom did it anger to talk bad about Stalin in his day, the ones who
where with the Tyrant, or the ones who where against. Who would feel
insulted. You see ? You have sided with the enemies of Moshe Rabbeinu.
You have and will pay the price, until you do Teshuvah. If not, humanity probably just entirely fails, and the price of that will likely be worse
for everyone, including you. Your God is helping you, by punishing you, basically giving you the only chance of life you have.]

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Good day Shemim,

Thank you for your kind (and speedy) answer. I read on your website that:

By relying on transdisciplinary research, SHEMIM® aims to create
educational and advocacy programs that promote the harmonization of
various systems, thereby building and enhancing economic, cultural,
and social capital.

The program I am suggesting on my website, is a (corrected) economy,
with which I mean that the power in it remains spread out, mainly by the
right to an equal value share of free land for all, but also by other mechanisms (company ownership is free for all, but transfers to the
employees once a owner leaves that company and the company is larger
than a set amount of employees, and rules which curtail the power of
finance primarely in the area of financing dictatorial businesses).

I realize it is not easy to distribute the land to all, as Jehoshua
ben Nun did with Israel, following the law of Moshe Rabbeinu. However,
it is a 'law' of economics, and in Academia they even know that the land
does not work correctly in a market. All value in a market is supposed to
be and naturally derived from the work people have put in. Work equals
value, roughly. The world, the land, is not made by humans. Land is
the starting point of all work. This topic alone is worth whole books,
so I'll cut it here.

The other possibly interesting part in the program I propose to you, is
the State. We all see how Parliament is not working well enough, and when
I read up on history, I read that generations ago people already knew and
acted to no avail to correct the situation. I have also tried to develop
a system of State, which is a more closely knit form of democracy. This
model is based on the failed Revolutions of 1917 (Germany, Russia),
which aimed to set up a Council Government. I think it failed because
it was not worked out well enough, and other problems such as getting
the economy wrong, and also just doing things too quickly. People need
time to learn & adjust.

See:
https://www.socialism.nl/book4/gratis/Distribute_power-combibook_2.8.pdf
page 429 has some drawings. It can basically forms from 5 Minyans
together. The Minyans also can remain important, called 'sub councils'
in the system, but are somewhat informal. The 50 people together elect a
person to keep that group together, and a delegate and reserve delegate
(three different people). The delegates then find each other and form a Government local Government, by a minimum of 50 persons. The so formed
Council may grow to any size, but can and should elect in segments a
smaller council if they become unwieldy. So they form Governments over all necessary sizes, such as areas, villages, cities and the entire Nation.

Then there is the system for a King. I believed it to be necessary,
although I find it a little bit regrettable that people seem to need
it. When I read the Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu, I see a similar regret
about Kingship in Israel from the prophets. I am very impressed with the
Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu, it is a great work. All stops have been pulled
out in order to correct Israel. Unfortunately, it has not achieved
the ultimate at this point. I hope it will still work out. Notice my
proposal is basically about economics, with the State thrown in for good measure. The Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu is about so much more. I have no
intention to overthrow it, although there are some places of potential
conflict of opinion. For example, I don't agree with the homosexual agenda
and all that, but I also oppose the death penalty (because I am afraid
of human justice being imperfect, but once you have executed someone,
you cannot rectify a mistake anymore, therefore all punishments revert
to forms of punishment which can be undone or at least undone better,
such as imprisonment, fines; needless to say, I find torture abhorrent,
but so does the Torah ...). The program of right to land in the Torah is
also different from mine, but my entire Constitution is merely an example
of how you could potentially implement the 4 goals of power distribution
(land, company ownership, finance and State). You can also do the Torah
system. I suggest to just think things over carefully, but it will be
some time before this can be done truely anyway.

About when and how to implement all this, for this I have proposed a
model of 9 modes of implementation. It is not possible to just slap a
new Constitution over an existing society, and expect that to work. To implement it all, I have proposed modes of action systematized from
easy and casual to the ultimate if necessary (warfare against Tyranny,
not warfare for conquest). These ways of action are: propaganda and
talking (which we do now); buying fair trade (which in a Jewish sense is 'kosher' goods and services, I guess); setting up and financing democratic businesses; setting up 'regular' political parties to participate in Parliament, or whatever makes sense in the pre-existing culture. These
are the easy and casual methods, in increasing strength. Then there is
the setting up of the State (see above), but this just starts as a good
cause organization. Organize on the State system, but only do some good,
like resque stray cats, etc. The rest of the methods are forms of warfare
more or less, to deal with repression on various levels.

I guess that's the main points. I also wrote some democracy voting
software, by the way. It works and was internationally published
about. This adds another level of public control over a potentially
corrupt ruling class.

As you can see, all these systems are basically decision making
systems. Once set up, they make decisions, and that will then be that. You
can live it and hopefully it will all work out well. Sorry to go on
about it (again).

I hope the other Nations will eventually see how well Israel is doing,
and then they also want that. They start to copy Israel, and then
the whole world might end up functioning well, and we can avoid more
(world) wars and Tyranny (etc). Things like building 'the Temple' and
all that, can be decided by these decision making organizations (such
as the State). Since the 3rd Temple is God's thing, I prefer to leave it
open, and think that in the end when it can be done, it will be with the concent if not demand of the Muslems also. This would be beautiful for
a 'Temple of Peace'. I'm not much of a Temple person, but if it is to
be a seat of the Supreme Court or have other such functions, it could
be. It is even possible that people make sacrifices to a 3rd Temple,
since it is a form of paying a fine on the one hand, and shows to the
people an amount of support for that system, so that they are impressed
and the whole system is strengthened that way (if you know what I mean).

The systems of decision making are hence set up, on various levels
(personal, company, local and national). Therefore I personally will
probably revert to saying nothing, because if I propose the system and
it gets done, the risk is that too many people will mindlessly do what I
say, and that is against the whole purpose and operation of the system. I personally am the last risk to the system, in some sort of way, although
the King itself is also a form of risk, and other positions also pose
risks, as history has shown (Stalin for example, being supposedly merely
the Chair person of the Government, while in fact being a bloody absolute Tyrant). The history of Israel shows the same: corrupt Kings, corrupt
(high) Priests, corrupt Sanhedrin chiefs like Hillel the Elder, etc.

Sorry to go on about it. Yes, please just take your good time if you
wish to review this proposal. Do what you want. If you have any counter arguments or are confused about my unclear writing, perhaps I could help
with it.

It is not likely any group whatsoever will even respond to me writing
them. I have already tried so many times. If you don't do something,
it seems likely nothing will be done. It may be that after the second
holocaust eventually some people start realizing how I have warned them
and everything could have been prevented, how they should have done
Teshuvah for the prosbul and heter iska by then years and years ago,
and who knows how many people could have been saved. It also still is
quite possible that you also will do nothing of course. Which is fine,
you should do what you think is best. If Israel wants to experience
things this way, than that seems like a possibility. It would be similar
to Wold War 2, but likely (going by the Torah) 7 times more intense. The Teshuvah after the war might also be more intense, and hopefully enough
to cause the Redemption, with likely much fewer Jewish people in the
world than are now alive.

You see the anti-semitism and Fascism rising already everywhere. These
things are not by accident. Criminals are in control in this world,
and they do not want something like the Torah to exist. This means
they have a strategic goal of wiping Israel out, especially those who
are good. I hope you realize that it was the Americans who have helped
finance Hitler, and how Hitler was inspired by America its racist and
slavery laws. USA is not what it claims to be for now. You can see
that in all their other wars. They claim World War 2 was a "good war",
but really it was probably the most vicious and evil wars America has
created for their own benefit. They won, so they control the propaganda
about it. We even learned this in school: the Nazis where financed also
from America, including weapon shipments, through the Dutch 'Bank van
Handel en Scheepvaart'. Thanks to these weapons, the early Nazis could
not be repressed so easily by the German Government. America did the same
again in Ukraine in 2014, and started the process of World War 3. This
is the real world we live in. It cannot go on like this. The bombs are
too big. Time is running out.... but there might with luck still be some
years left before the worst starts to happen.

have a great day,
Jos Boersema
The Netherlands.

[Added on Usenet: there was a short but friendly reply to earlier
message, saying they needed time to verify what I was writing, and that
I could try my luck at some of their 'platforms'.]

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This is the loop they are in, the contract they have with their God, the Creator of everything. They are thinking too highly of themselves, I am
sorry to say. The Rabbis are too impressed with themselves, with their
books, with their mysticism, with their Yeshiva buildings, with their
stature, their income, the classes they can teach, the amazing things
they have discovered. A simple thing though, like reading the Torah law
on debt nullification, somehow they cannot do it. They cannot admit the
lie of the prosbul.

The arrogance becomes punishment, the punishment becomes disappointment,
self doubt, etc. It is a correction cycle. It disrupts their corrupt establishments, might even (almost) entirely wipe it out, as the Romans
almost did for example, and also the Germans basically wiped out all
Jewish people in large parts of Europe. To no avail to themselves, their culture has improved nothing because of it, likely it even went down.
Do *they* learn anything ? Not really. Aren't *they* lying with their
culture, their fake religion ? Of course they are, worse than Israel.
This isn't a comparison between Israel and the Nations. It isn't good
enough to be the most humble Nation, if you cannot keep to good enough
laws to stabilize your society under the rule of Justice. Israel is
measured against 'infinite' against 'true Justice and peace', but proves
to be failing. Other Nations, ... sigh.

It isn't good enough to be the least failing Nation. We need an
objective success, we need a Redeemed Israel, forever. You must show the example, because you are the best, just don't let that get to your heads
like you do now. You may have the best raft of the fleet, but if the
rafts all go down in the storm and yours just went to the bottom the
latest, what's the difference between dead and dead ? It isn't a race to
be the best. It is a race to be good enough to live, and help everyone
else to accomplish the same, so that this sad world can become a happy
world.

You chose death Israel. I hope you fully and completely realize that.
You are in a state of death. What you are doing, is death. It doesn't
matter how much you pray to your God, while breaking his laws. Others
did that before you, and likewise died. Maybe it does matter somewhat,
because you make it easier to stop not being good enough, but unless you actually do, it might not help you survive now. Does it matter if your
house burns down, because of a small fire, or a big fire ? Does it
matter if your house was clean or dirty, when it burns down ? To a
degree, it matters because it is about your character and your further
future, however for now, the house just burned in both cases, you died
in both cases.

You think you can just pontificate, like the Pope, to make fake laws
like the prosbul. If you fully comprehend that and don't tear your
clothes in guilt, you may have a bigger problem than you know. If you
did though, truly care ... I hope you will live to see the Redemption,
speedily in our days.

Tear your clothes and cry, if not for yourself than for your brothers,
and for all mankind. For you, it means something, it can do something
for you. If I did that, people would just think I am even more crazy
than they thought. ;-)

Return and stop being obstinate. You accomplish nothing. Have you
noticed how Iran is restless, how rage is boiling up in the world
against you ? Iran might not be powerful per person, but they have a lot
of them. How will they fare against you, if your God (who is clearly
also the God of Islam, by the way) sides with them, simply to punish
you, so that you can be helped by this punishment ? How can you survive
that ? Why do you want to hide away again in great fear, why is that preferrable to just admitting you have followed lies and confusion for
so many generations. Are you afraid of something ? What is it. Are you
even afraid to become your own selves ? Does the truth scare you somehow ?
I don't understand. Is your mind nothing but shallow gossip and
emotions, hatred and misplaced love, standing in the community, nothing
more than 'loshon hara' all day long, and since I undersigned don't
belong, don't listen to him, don't do what he says, we enjoy hating him
it makes us feel connected ? You roll that way ? This is you ? I guess
if so, you don't have a future in the Redemption. Is it your idolatry,
you must worship at the shrine of some big Yeshivah, in awe for how it
looks, and to hell with the law if that's the price to pay ?

You read the Torah, and you sympathize with the good guys. Yet here we
are, but on what side are you now ? You thought you had the courage of
heroes, but on what side are you now ? You could not believe the
betrayal of the bad guys, how could they ! Yet here we are, and on what
side are you now ? Now that the action takes place, the decisions get
made: Redemption or Tyranny, peace or war, truth or lies, character or criminality, wisdom or truth, tranquility or chaos, happiness or pain.
You may have to do something to earn the prize, this is how it is on
Earth. You work, you get something for it. I ask you for a small work,
and the prize could be the final and complete Redemption, forever. The Israelites also had to walk out of Egypt, face fears and dangers. Do you
always want to be the one in the back of the pack ? You feel safer there ?
You might end up not leaving Egypt at all, or Edom now, or how you want
to put it.

Oh look, they (whomever) just finished polishing one of their nukes.
You think this will end well ?

Also, it is already the year 6 004. The Rabbis got it wrong, again.
Apparently, there is nobody else doing it, because how could they have
missed the right time ? How could someone who really cared, miss the
moment before the Greatest War, choose the moment to call for Justice
and Peace when it could still actually be achieved. If he himself didn't
know or could time it this well, isn't HKB'H supposed to be the one
ultimately holding the pen, dictating the words, in your beliefs ?
Doesn't HKB'H when to engage in the correct timing ? HKB'H is beyond
timing obviously. He would not have to say: this work will be done
before the war starts, I hope it works out. He will say: hurry up, get
the work done before the war starts ! Then, when it takes a little
longer, He has all the power he needs to have to delay the war a decade,
a generation, however long he wants. HKB'H is beyond timing, but there
we are, and time is running out. What do you want to do now: ask Hillel
the Elder for guidance, Rambam will save you ? I suggest to you: stop
lying, and save yourselves. If you started your Teshuvah with the
prosbul, it may be the step which is the first to the complete and final Redemption. Even if at first you are too prideful to even believe you
could go that far, as you make the step and then another ... you keep
walking you keep going ... all the way to the promised land.

As the Chinese saying says: a big jearney starts with a single step.
You can inspect the ground of where you will place this first step
carefully. You can put your jackets on and put your backpack together.
One step cannot be so dangerous, can it ? You know what you do, it is
the obvious truth: Teshuvah for the prosbul. Why not ? It's not really a debate, it a matter of choosing good over stupidity and evil. It
couldn't be more obvious. Only the mindless are still in doubt, but
who are they ? You make the step, and like a shimmering birds feather,
the color of your soul has changed. You started to shine a little more.
The next step, it already seems easier, and more rewarding. Repent from
the heter iska also, repent from Rambam / Maimonides. Returning to the
Torah, it starts to feel good. What's next ! You want more, more truth,
more Justice, more obvious wisdom.

Before you know it, your children live happily in a safe land, and life
just seems to suddeny have become so fullfilling, so ....

You think I deceive you ? I argue against your deceivers. You have a
mind, use it. You will ultimately have to save yourselves. It is your
life, you will have to live it. It is your adventure, your choices, your
story, it is about you, it is you, it will be who you become.

Do not wait until HKB'H has to "point out the moshiach" for you, because
that is a demotion, at least in my view. You should be able to care for
the truth so much, you only need half a word and you can see, a call for
action is no longer needed in your case, because you act out of your own
need for truth, justice and peace, to do what is right. That is a man,
or a good woman if you want. A good human. If you wait for a sign of
your God, then at least follow his law as he asked you to. Only then
does it make sense, because you are in a system which is also good: the
Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu, and you have reason to follow it closely. Isn't
that just what I'm asking you to do, to follow it closely, to stop with
the prosbul ? It is idolatrous to put Rebbes and Sages above HKB'H and
the law he gave through Moshe Rabbeinu. Your God already punished you,
yet you want even more punishment without learning much let alone
enough. Why, why do you force heaven to punish you even more ... ?

The read is clear, (lol, I meant, the road is clear), you know what to
do. You don't have to ask someone else for advice, but you can ask
someone to walk together with you. Go together, and hopefully we can all
live in the end. If however, none is willing to go, will you also keep
dancing on the deck of the Titanic, as it disappears into the endless
sea, and the lifeboats disappear one by one ? If need be, you will go
alone, like Abraham left his family, like Moshe Rabbeune fled into the
desert, for Justice sake. They placed Justice and Peace above their
immediate comfort and their social surrounding, peer pressure I suppose,
even from all sides. This became Israel, the holy Nation, the apple of
God's eye, the first among all the Nations, first to choose peace. Be
that Nation, take courage in the truth, because without peace, there is
nothing to live for. To the death we live for peace, and to the death we destroy evil, forever.

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