• Gentiles are already hysterical, forgetting how bad Hamas is

    From Jos Boersema@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 9 20:13:11 2024
    title: 'Hamas Fighters Are Invisible': Israeli Troops Secretly Confess
    Gaza Is A 'Disaster' | Watch
    link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFmy40pJk7o
    source: Hindustan Times

    Comment:

    Even if you disagree with the IDF, Hamas is still worse. IDF at least has
    a reason to destroy Hamas terrorists, who attacked civilians on purpose, completely by choice, completely oblivious civilians, unarmed. Shooting
    rockets in cities, with the goal of hurting children, families, woman,
    elderly, and by chance a military aged man. Hamas stated goal is
    "Palestine is free, from the river to the sea", which combined with
    this strategy equals a _policy_ of (at least) expulsion of the Jewish
    people. In practice that will probably mean a war of annihilation,
    or something close to it.

    Then there is the issue of waste, Hamas wasting money on war which
    could have been put to good use for people in Gaza. My guess is that
    within Gaza, Hamas are also terrorists and criminals against their own
    people, like a Tyranny. If you agree with them, they will be ok with you,
    but if not, I doubt they will accept that, given their brutality. IDF
    does, unfortunately, have a reason to attack a site in a city, if Hamas
    is launching missiles from it. There is also the moral issue of the Palestinians having allowed Hamas to exist within their Nation, knowing
    that they attack civilians by preference. There is a level of guilt in it.

    Hence, if you call IDF bad, then Hamas is still worse, if not a
    lot worse. I'm so sorry to talk logic in a world of anti-logic, anti-principles, bias, extremism emotional overload and hysteria
    (lol). Reverse the situation: if Israel was underfunded and Hamas had all
    the rockets, and if Israel was on the run. What would Hamas do ? They
    would kill anyone they can see, because that's how they started this
    war, and to _'ethnic cleanse'_ that area is their strategic goal and
    slogan. What is Hamas plan for all the Jewish people there ? "Back to
    Europe" ? They are not from here, and what if they don't want to leave
    ? Their language is nothing like our languages, and their religion is
    the mother of Islam. Everything suggests they are from the Middle East.

    I kindly suggest for Israel to return to the Torah, distribute the
    land as Jehoshua ben Nun did, following the law given through Moshe
    Rabbeinu. Admit the _prosbul_ and _heter iska_ have been lies, and
    probably played a part in creating the exile. Stop with the Torah from
    Egypt (Rambam), return to the Torah from Yerushalayim (Moshe Rabbeinu).

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    (Added on Usenet.) The Jewish people are quite interested lately in the
    final Redemption. From what I could gather, their expectations are
    exceedingly low about what it will be, compared to what I think it will
    be (if it includes or is even better than program proposed in
    signature).

    This is what Rabbis expect: Just another run of Israel in the old days.
    Pretty much that's it. Under a King as good as King David, no war, and
    everyone will like the Jewish Nation. While this sounds amazing, and it
    would be amazing I have to admit ... I think it will be a so much more
    profound ... result (say). It will be so much deeper than they think,
    the victory of the truth will be so much greater. It isn't like a
    religion as we know it today. They think Israel will be popular, people
    believe in Hashem like Jews believe in Hashem. Like the best days under
    King Shlomo.

    What I think will happen instead, is that the Nations will eventually
    realize that this program "is it". Their science and their understanding
    will grab it, and they will start to understand it all. Those who are
    incapable of understanding (because of their personal lack of
    intelligence, I'm sorry to say), will at least give their full emotional support, and not to some person, not to some King David in Israel, no.
    To the bare bones truth about so many things. The whole thing is like a
    new science is being discovered. This is how I propose exactly
    my economic system, as the correct science of economics, and not correct
    in any braindead religious way or cult way or such crazy ways of human behavior: correct as in real good logical thinking, arguments,
    experiments even, everything.

    It is a bit like discovering the wheel, and once it is discovered,
    it rolls on by itself. Other people take it and go on with it. Nobody
    needs to worship the cult of the first wheel maker. Nobody has to care
    about any person. You merely need to understand: axel, round outside
    shape. It has a logic of its own, and it works. Wheels fill the world,
    not by domination, simply because it works. People like things that
    work. They see their neighbor doing something that works, they copy it.
    They see their competitor in business doing something that works, they
    copy it. They refine it, and on it goes, forever. No dynasty needed. No
    holy book needed. It becomes part of life itself, it is everywhere to
    the point you don't think about it anymore. Who spends their days
    thinking about the wheel ? Well, I do it a little bit, being a cyclist
    of sorts, but you know what I mean.

    When this is all established and entrenched, and political attention
    already long since moved on other topics because economics is solved,
    the Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu will have a special place in this greater
    truth, just like the first culture who invented the wheel has a special
    place. I don't even know which culture that is, but okay. There are
    other cultures also, besides the Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu, who have done
    good, and they also get credit accordingly. Now we are basically talking
    about history books, museums, and the like, which doesn't mean the Torah
    can still be the way of the Jewish people, even forever. That's fine, it probably adds cultural diversity. Other Nations might use different
    methods, but amounting to the same principles (thinking of land
    distribution now).

    Finally Science and true Scholarship can come out, and all the
    corruption which occured since will hopefully be cleaned out over time.
    It should help that the truth on economics destroys a massive amount of
    power of evil people, thus reducing their capacity to do damage to
    Science and academic life, studies, everything. A great clean up of
    Science, which has become quite corrupt, and never was clean either.

    It isn't a religion to say 1 + 1 = 2, it is an obvious fact except to
    a few lost people in Academia who have lost their minds on this simple
    issue (with their crazy axioms, quite shameful in my opinion). Grab the
    nearest object and one like it, there you did 1 + 1 = 2. It's not a
    religion, it's facts of life in your hand. It's not a ritual, it is the
    most basic facts around you, it's staring you in the face. It is self
    evident.

    This is what I think is the Redemption. It is quite different than what
    I hear the Rabbis talk about. Everyhing changes, and everything becomes
    human scale. Everything will become you and people around you, at the
    same time free and dynamic, but with a minimum structure (right to land,
    the vote, business and State, Nations of a reasonable size).

    It will be just the opposite of what people think. They think it will be
    the gods come down from the Olympus (I know those are idolatry stories,
    just an example), and it will all be about the big King. The biggest
    spectacle, the biggest show ever. I think it will be precisely the
    opposite. Not about the big spectacle, but the big spectacle melts away
    into nothingness, and all of a sudden you see a small thing, and that's
    you. The world becomes this movement of people with and around each other, their little choices and their little life adventures, and everything
    about the basics of society which at this moment do not make sense
    whatsoever on the fundamentals, everything on the fundamentals makes
    complete sense. Soon it will be forgotten how lost and absurd the world
    has been in the past, and the people who want the good and the truth,
    the peace and Justice to win, the victory will be at the same time feel
    like an overwhelming success, and like the void of an invitation to make
    your life something worth living for you.

    The power of "the truth" will be very great, because everyone will
    respect the truth greatly, and the big liars have lost their power to
    confuse and deceive, plus the damage the people who have lied have done
    is so great, that another grave and terrible trauma will exist in the collective memory of mankind, and it will again be ... "never again",
    but stronger. Truth, peace and justice will mix together with a feeling
    of love and joy, a cry of happiness in thanks that we may exist.

    Thus for those who are good, and who therefore enjoy the good, and the
    truth. Those who enjoy the crime and the lies, I imagine they will not
    feel so good, as their ability to use their talents will be extremely diminished.

    The only thing which is a brake on all this, is the ability of N amount
    of people to even understand anything. The extreme fool simply does not understand a thing. If their hearts are good however, they will be
    extremely happy to see others happy. If their hearts are not so good, it
    is possible that they start feeling alienated. What will happen with
    evil and perhaps extremely incompetent people in the end, I don't know.
    It is possible that they eventually cannot exist in this world of truth, Justice, peace and happiness. It is also possible that they can still
    catch up somehow.

    I don't know how long it will take to get to the level above described.
    It could take centuries, or perhaps it will go quite quick like several decades. I should remind myself of one of my personal rules ... "Never underestimate the stupidity of the people". Hence the above might be a
    little bit too optimistic, concerning the short term.

    The point is ... it's not going to be about some dynasty of Kings,
    Israel. It is going to be about truth, in the moral sense of the truth.
    Not truth about some silly family names or religious dogmas. Truth about
    how to live, how to organize a society, how to become happy people.
    Point blank truth about life. Within that bedding, the Torah of Moshe
    Rabbeinu will become understood, and no doubt gain the credit it
    deserves. You see how much greater this is than what some of you seem
    to think ? I guess not, but later you may start to understand it,
    because you probably don't have a clue about what I am even talking
    (sigh).

    Why now ? Game Over, get it ? Monkeys with nukes now, and worse ? Do ro
    die. That is the reverse of this medal. Extinction of high technological Dystopian hell forever, are your other choices. I suggest you choose
    wisely, while you still can. The paradise of the morally brave and
    honorable, or the self induced slavery of misbehaving street scum. You
    know what the middle ground is ? A massive near extinction event and back
    to simpler times. I don't think there are any other options, quite to
    the contrary to what most people think (because they don't think), which
    is: "tomorrow is the same as today", not even noticing how much has
    already changed ...

    Embrace your destiny. Become happy. Side with the truth & morality, it
    is worth it. Perhaps this describes something referred to as "the world
    to come" ? (I don't know.) It should be an historical process to go from
    here to there, which has a less great start, and a better end.

    P.S.

    But "you want to know 'why everything' first ?". Does the pupil learn the
    last and most difficult tricks of the trade on the first day in school
    ? Give it time, and first save yourself, save your soul, be good. Once
    you are good, you might as if by your own nature, understand the answers
    to the questions who where bothered by, or indeed realize that you
    should stop worrying so much about something which doesn't even really
    matter. Does it make sense to destroy your soul and future, because you
    don't understand why reality exists ? You think ruining your own life and
    soul will help you get closer to an answer, and what is that answer going
    to mean for you ? Will the answer come in the form of a sentence, which
    is a string of words ? I guess this is getting too obscurantist, but I'm referring to people who have become demoralized because how do you explain "existence". I don't know how to explain existence, but the traditional
    answer is; we exist because we want to be happy, and happiness is its own reason. Once you are happy, you stop worrying about why or how you exist,
    you just want to continue to exist. You create our own reason, I guess,
    and when you are unhappy, you don't see the reason for existence and it
    bothers you to find an explanation for existence, which you won't find
    because you lost the reason to exist, which is your own happiness. Become
    happy again, and you have the answer. Refuse to become happy and good, and
    the answer will continue to escape you. You're in a sort of a depression
    loop, and you have to just get out of that negativity, that's all. There
    is probably a purely social reason you became unhappy, nothing to do
    with all this over the top metaphysical nonsense thinking.

    Another good answer is: we don't know, but we know it is good and we
    know we didn't make all this reality, so we simply put our trust in it.
    We trust God if you will, and if we don't know something for now, then
    he knows and if we need to know, perhaps we will eventually know. For
    now we have to live, save ourselves, our species, society, the future.

    Some people are like that, so I thought to address it. I'm sorry if it
    is not making any sense, forget it. ;-)

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