• The Debt must be nullified, slow or sudden, it must be nullified

    From Jos Boersema@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 9 08:25:05 2024
    XPost: alt.politics.socialism

    title: LIVE! Another $95 BILLION To Fund Both Ukraine
    and Israel Wars... YOU HAVENT SEEN ANYTHING YET!
    link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVGnW0ilMI8
    source: Gregory Mannarino

    Comment:

    The National Debt pyramid scam (a taxation evasion scam isn't it?), is so infuriating, I at least sometimes thing: sudden and complete refusal to
    pay it back, both interest and principle. Everyone who bought the scam,
    is guilty of the scam. It is a good lesson for them, to stop being able
    bodied parasites. The more banks and "institutions" go bankrupt, the
    better. Let them feel the pain, the consequences of trying to subvert
    their society for their own petty gains. This leaves the worst psychos
    however, who knew it was coming and sold it off. We have to get them in
    another way. Next stop: pass a Constitutional law that a Government cannot borrow money, etc. etc. While this sounds like the policies of a mad man,
    and it kind of literally is, and it will probably cause a lot of damage,
    it is interesting to keep in mind that a radical program like this,
    the damage is may do, is incomparable to the damage which will occur by
    doing nothing. Even this mad man policy, it probably doesn't do 1 ten thousandth of the damage of doing nothing.

    The difference between harsh but serious policies is: a bunch of banks
    boarded up, some demonstrations of angry people (obviously you should
    use money wisely to cushion pain for ordinary people), bigger line at
    the soup kitchen, more homeless people, etc. You can do a lot however,
    with generous and competent help programs. Take that picture ... situate
    it in New York City or any other city, and now compare what will happen
    by doing nothing: the city is bombed out of existence, while starvation
    and chaos hits everywhere else. Is this not real, over the top ? I don't
    think so, because _we_ are not in a war and we have never seen war really,
    and therefore we have a tendency to underestimate how bad it is.

    Take a look at Ukraine, and that is still a low intensity conflict (no
    nukes used yet), but the front line goes like a forest fire through
    every house. It almost seems every single house will get a bomb on
    it. Everything gets destroyed, and those are out of the way small
    villages. They are nothing, but *everything gets destroyed.* We need
    serious politics, now. Away with the child politicians, and real people
    with real programs need to take over, and the ignorance of ... (oh kay
    will never happen I guess ...) the common man has to end. What I see
    from this little review: we are back at city bombing, the people will
    not get it together.

    They are too easily fooled, not serious enough about politics, not willing
    to think things through. I just don't see it, because just like always the masses are going for their new Tyrant, their new Lenin, Stalin, Hitler,
    Ceasar, whatever madmen who tells them how great they are, they will
    push the real mad men to power, and that's the end. They don't want to do things themselves, they want some psycho Fascist to take control over and
    for them, chasing their delusion that they can find a hero to save them,
    rather than saving themselves by the hard work and thinking it will take.

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    [SCJ] Do you see, Jewish people, that this is all about your Torah ? It
    is all a message to you: you must stop with your prosbul, the debt must
    be nullified. You must stop with your heter iska, which is allowing the
    profit motive the motivation to create all this debt (rent seeking,
    taking increase). The entire world is repeating your scams, and that is
    not because you taught them, it is because you fell in the same traps
    they keep falling into. You failed to give the example, you followed the
    'light of the Nations' rather than being the Lamp to the Nations.

    You did not do your job. If you had kept to your Torah, many Revolutions
    in history would have included systems of land distribution and debt nullifications, to stabilize their post Revolutionary economies.
    Revolutions look at history, to find something that has worked. This is
    how you saw the Roman Republic come back. You failed to do your Jubilee
    and debt forgiveness, and even though you still have the Torah and it is
    true that people could do land distribution any day of the week they
    would want to start it, in that sense you did do your job, it would
    have made so much more of an impression if you where there living your
    happy lives, keeping to the Jubilee.

    It is not just possible, but possibly even likely, that the entire world
    would have looked different now, with not most Nations having a
    Capitalist Parliament mixed economy system with limitless wealth
    accumulation and markets in land, that they would have the same but plus
    land distribution. It should have stabilized all the economies greatly.
    It would be a different world.

    You also failed to set up any sort of meaningful State system. Monarchy
    is not a State system, that's a failure, or at best an emergency measure
    to deal with a people who are unruly, fractured and confused. It's not a
    good thing how you keep harping on wanting a Monarchy. We are humans,
    why should we live like dogs ?

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    But, fine, since your God (the God of everything) said he will give you
    a King anyway, have your King, but if possible more like a relaxed
    almost ceremonial President kind of thing, not a Presidential system
    either, and have that man (or woman) as a form of an element of unity.
    If done right, it can add something to the political process, perhaps.
    In theory a King with little or no power, can be quite close to just
    another well chosen advisor to the whole Nation.

    Even if the world might not want to learn and listen, you could at least
    have saved yourself, but you had to keep going with your old betrayals
    no matter what. Now that you are back in the land, it should be clear to
    all how corrupt you have become. You control the land, but there is no
    Jubilee on land. You are yourselves not really Jewish, that seems to be
    the problem, "Jewish" meaning "following the Torah". Of course you are
    Jewish, but then again you are not. Complaints about this have been
    raised before by your own Prophets (IIRC).

    It seems to me that people do not have a logical mind. They can hear
    words, but they merely hear "someone is talking", they do not think
    about arguments. Everything is point blank perception, it never goes
    beyond that. Opinion here opinion there, and they leave it standing next
    to each other, like looking at goods behind a window pane of a shop. Hey
    this, hey that, what's next. Zero thought into the content, no analyses,
    no problem solving, no puzzling, no care for the truth.

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