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ומישיורדמהדרךורוצהלחיותכמוהגויםזהעוד לא אומר שהואגוי,אבלאםעכשיוכשכלהעולם
מתהפךאםהואלאיעשהתשובהלרגע עד האחרון,כנראהשאיןלונשמהיהודית.יהודי
אמיתי להתעלם יכול לאשקורה מה מכלכמו בעולם שכתוב בנביאיםולא לחזור בתשובה.
גםהחרדיםצריכיםלחזורבתשובהוגםהחילונים צריכיםלחזורבתשובה-עםכלהלב,עםכל
המהותשלנו.אנחנו צריכיםלהאמיןבקב"האפילו אםאיןלנומהלאכולח"ו,כסףלאיהיהשווהכלום,
הכליעלההמוןכסף,והכסףלאיהיהשווהכלום.אז מהנאכל?איךנשתה?איךנחיה?ה'לאיתןלנו
למות,הואיחיהאותנו,הואהכליכול,הואברא אותנווהואימשיךלהעלותאותנו–רקאםאנחנו
איתו,רקאםאנחנומוציאיםמהראששלנואתכל השטויותשלהעולםהזה,והולכיםאךורקאיתו.

Google translate (not perfect):

And if someone goes astray and wants to live like the Gentiles, this
does not mean that he is a Gentile, but if, now that the whole world is
turning upside down, if he does not repent until the very last moment,
he probably does not have a Jewish soul. The ultra-Orthodox also need
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
to repent, and the secular also need to repent - with all our hearts,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
with all our essence. We need to believe in the Bible, even if we don't
have anything to eat, money will not be worth anything, which includes a
lot of money, and money will be worth nothing. So what will we eat? How
will we drink? How will we live? If we are with him, only if we put
all the nonsense of this world out of our heads, and go after him.

End quote.

This is something a lot of Jewish people, especially the most religious
of them, do not seem to comprehend, because they believe of themselves
that they are living entirely or close (enough) to the Torah already.
This is however not true, because you have the fraud that is the prosbul
on the books. You later made it a little worse still with the heter
iska. You call the people who did this: "Sages" (Hillel the Elder and
Rambam). You have put these people above the Torah.

That is *me* (undersigned) saying it, not these autists, but it doesn't
matter because everyone knows that the prosbul is a fraud, and if you do
not you must be a brainless fool without shame ? Sorry, but it is true.
Utterly unacceptable. Those who support the prosbul can *therefore* not
be regarded as Sages of the Torah. It doesn't matter how much money they
had or how rich the people where who sponsored them, or how prestigious
you think they are, or whatever other great things they may have done.
The prosbul is so reprehensible and shameful, I do not even have to
explain it to you (again for the Nth time).

The secular people also have to repent, because it doesn't matter if you believe in real Science and Scholarship, real research and logic, or the
Torah, because it is both the same. Is Debt slavery moral ? Obviously it
is not. Is stealing from the poor moral ? No. You don't need a Torah to
tell you that, you already know it. Is having markets in land acceptable ? Shouldn't everyone have their equal value share of the land for free and
for forever ? If you actually cared about Science and Scholarship, if
you actually tried to do a good job, you could be *above* the Torah
observance, because you wouldn't merely _believe_ that the answer is
that everyone needs their share of land for free as the Torah commands,
but you will _know that is true and why it is true._

Both sides exist in a state of treason. The religious have broken their
Torah, and the secular have broken their Science and Scholarship.
Neither side is precise, neither side has courage, and both sides
worship and serve the super rich - among whom are the psychos of power,
the wicked who rule and destroy the world.

The Ultra Orthodox have to repent, Rabbinical Judaism as a whole has to
repent. You can even switch over, to go from Rabbinical Judaism to
Science and back if you want, and from Secularism to the Torah, and it
all comes out as the same. Is it wisdom, is it Science, to say that the
Sun is a god and that sacrificing and worshiping an object in this world
(the Sun) is the smart and Scientific thing to do, because in return the
Sun will keep shining or whatever ? I don't think so, the Sun is just
the Sun, it sits there shining light on everyone without regard for what
they are doing. It is the same for the blackness of night, which absorbs
the rays of the Sun so that we can live and not get roasted.

In this logic of worshiping the Sun, you might as well worship the night,
or worship whatever. What does that even mean, this cursed word "worship".
Be a man, destroy crime, keep to wise laws and be happy to be alive,
and that's it. Live together and make reasonable agreements with each
other, listen to each other, and also listen to those who are hurt. Keep
doing that and see how far you will get. If you are still unhappy,
it is probably something else. If you bump your foot and it hurts, is
that reason to burn your house down, will that make you feel better ? No.

This is regarding the Sun disk idol, which the Rabbis have remade in Yerushalayim, and are planning to put on a possible 3rd Temple (!!!).
It is called the Lamp of Helena. I have no information on if they
finished it yet, but they said they are working on it. Where is the
objection from the Rabbis about this ?! An idol for Yerushalayim, in
gold like the golden calf, and who objects ?! Nobody ????? After all
that has happened ?!

So now you can really see that your Rabbis are not conforming to the
entire Torah. To some: definitely yes. To everything: it seems not.
You can see it because they are following and after false gods (!!!).
Yes it is that insane, can you believe it ?! It is incredible.

Then this other Rabbi said something like God wants to send Moshiach,
but the forces of evil stop God because they point to "free will". This
is dividing God in two, as if God is not knowing what he is doing all
the way through, like God is a fool really, a human that is ! We are the humans, we are the fools, remember ? The Creator is not so afflicted.
I still liked what this particular Rabbi said though, so I understand
how you are confused between this greatness of Judaism even today, and
then these mistakes. It is easy to swallow the mistakes with the rest of
the pie, because it tastes good. But think: you are in exile, why is
that ? There is something wrong with you. The Rabbis are also in exile,
we are all in exile (from a true life). I tell you that you have to
quit your prosbul fraud, and distribute the land to all (especially
that). Many other things may also need improvement, but especially
something like the prosbul is an easy fix. If you cannot even fix that,
what can you fix ? You are stubborn and want to hang on to the past
Rabbis, but you are not stubborn enough, you should hang on to the past
even much more, because then you would come all the way back to Moshe
Rabbeinu and strip away the later corruptions.

You know the prosbul is a lie, and yet you lack the courage to break
with it. This is a severe problem you have. It doesn't matter even if
you think the prosbul is a small thing. Look at these people with their
dual kitchens, as if this is such an important law. They extend that law
into the ultimate, that's how important they apparently think the law of
milk and meat mixing is. Precision and sometimes over the top precision (perhaps) with some laws, and then the prosbul like a wrecking ball
tossed right unto the Yeshiva and you are supposed to act like it's
nothing ? Imagine being the poor bloke, can barely feed the baby, you
grab the hand with the money from the rich hoping that you get help from
your brothers. Hastely you sign some contract, counting on the loving
kindness of your people. They won't try to hurt you, will they ? Ah but
back in the day you heard something about the Torah as well, and doesn't
this rich man also sponsor the local shul ? He must be trustworthy, be
God fearing. You'll be ok, quick to the store and get some new clothes
for the baby and some baby food. A few years later you get thrown out of
your house because the rich man is asking the loan back, even though the Shmittah has happened and you couldn't pay him back on the eve of it
either.

Sigh. Just stop with the sharade already, you are fooling nobody Israel.
These fake games of yours, your fake reasons, just cut it out. It
convinces nobody, it only increases your guilt. I told you this decades
ago, well maybe 1.5 decades then: repent or die. That is where we are in
this silly world. The bombs are that bad, aren't they ? We have to be
full out good to handle this kind of power as a species.

*

By the way, it is curious to see this linked to page also seemingly
being in fear that "moshiach" would be assassinated. It is true that by
the rules of this world, short of a miracle, a political assassination
would be nothing new, on the contrary. I think it would be expected that
there would be assassination ideas or logic at least, from the side of organized crime (the ruling class of the world). If Hashem will allow it
to happen, I don't know. It seems it should not happen, according to the Prophets.

Me from my end: I structured everything in such a way, that if they kill
me, it doesn't matter anymore. I already said everything I had to say,
the whole thing is prepared in detail. If I die, it only makes the
entire system more perfect, because a dangerous position of extreme
power would be taken out (which would happen anyway if I die naturally).
I hope you realize though, that should they kill me or make it look
like an accident, that doesn't mean that what I wrote to you is
therefore not true. Just because someone isn't "moshiach", or some high
end top notch Prophet of Israel like Isaiah, doesn't mean that what they propose is not true and worthless. Everything I wrote for you is logic,
and all you need is use your brain if you have one, and you will do much
better than "I believe" because you should get to "I KNOW".

I don't buy anything for "I believe", I want "I know!".

*

Speaking of which, when reading about how the Snake deceived Adam &
Eve, and that the Creator wanted to test his Creation (Adam & Eve in the Garden, and everything else around it), that the goal of HKB'H may have
been that he was not entirely satisfied with "I believe and I obay" the Creator. He may have wanted something greater, which is not some servant
who always does as told like blindly, but rather a friend who know what
is right and does the right thing because he wants to, because he knows
that this is where his own happiness is at in the long term. Not a slave,
but a real creature. Not someone who constantly needs direction, but a
living creature within the world, who is living there his life by his
own direction - and this direction would always be choices of an adult
real creature who isn't stupid but who knows that the greater good is
also his own good in the end.

This does sound a little like "the tree of good *and evil"* but that's
not what I mean. I only mean the knowledge of good is relevant. To know
that by respecting that tree in the middle, he is also respecting his
own tree and cares for his own future. By stealing it, theft comes into
the world, and this theft becomes murder and war, and will hit him too.
If he respects what belongs to another, they can respect what belongs to
him, and this mode of being is far superior to killing each other in a
world which has enough for everyone anyway already. Even dying together
while sharing what's left is better than killing each other over some
scraps. War is hell.

I guess this was perhaps like a test to see if humans are merely
obedient and mindless, or if they knew why they where doing what they
where doing, and that they knew the greater good is also their own
personal good. This is also the case with this so called concealment of
the moshiach, being a leper, someone people are not likely to listen to.
It is a test to see if they merely worship the rich greedy for their
power and being impressed by them (mindless slaves), or if they are also
able to listen to someone less impressive or not impressive at all or
even repulsive. If they can over this mindlessness of the worship, the idolatry, it would mean they are real creatures, they know what they are
doing. They can be taken serious.

If they know the good for all is the good for them, if they know the
good in the infinite term is worth it in the short term, if they can
respect what belongs to someone else (the good for all), if they can
resist listening to the rich and greedy who might be impressing to them
but care to listen to the hurt, the poor and the wretched, the sick and
go on their behalf against the powerful if need be ... then they can
live forever. They would be an amazing people, truly a treasure. This
should be the Jewish people, and an example to the world, so that also
the rest of the world can move in the right direction - all who are
willing, so that they too can live.

Well, it's a theory ;-). Ending the prosbul is not a theory, and
distributing the land is neither. These are essential requirenments of a
stable and just Nation. Fail to distribute the land, and you are pretty
much ensured of being destroyed by a Plutocracy of greed. Notice how
similar it is to fail to distribute the land and taking fruit from a
forbidden tree.

Farming ... humans still don't know how it works, the ownership and
social aspect of it. Their minds are still in the Stone Age. There is an
ocean of time which is called the Stone Age, and we in the era of
farming are not a long time compared to all that. Humanity is basically
a Stone Age creature, who found a new trick, but fails still to adapt to
it. You have to adapt to it, or you will eventually loose it. Think it
over, if it isn't clear. Sorry for rating like a mad man ;-) lol. "But
you are a madman !" Ah ok I guess so XD. Don't mind me then, but don't
come back later complaining about not getting a clue either. Have a
great day.

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