• Re: Starliner back at pad

    From The Running Man@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu May 30 19:29:39 2024
    On 30/05/2024 11:17 Snidely <[email protected]> wrote:
    Starliner is again at SLC-41 ahead of crewed launch, L0 currently June
    1st 12:25 pm EDT.

    /dps

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    went apopleptic when he learned a lousy rodent had peed away all his
    precious heavy water.
    _The Disappearing Spoon_, Sam Kean

    AFAIK the Crew Dragon docked at the ISS isn't suitable for a rescue mission since it's not modified to perform an EVA. Only the Crew Dragon capsule being used for the Polaris Dawn mission is fitted (or being fitted) for EVA.

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  • From The Running Man@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri May 31 23:43:04 2024
    On 30/05/2024 18:35 Snidely <[email protected]> wrote:
    The Running Man scribbled something on Thursday the 5/30/2024:
    On 30/05/2024 11:17 Snidely <[email protected]> wrote:
    Starliner is again at SLC-41 ahead of crewed launch, L0 currently June
    1st 12:25 pm EDT.

    /dps

    --
    Killing a mouse was hardly a Nobel Prize-worthy exercise, and Lawrence
    went apopleptic when he learned a lousy rodent had peed away all his
    precious heavy water.
    _The Disappearing Spoon_, Sam Kean

    AFAIK the Crew Dragon docked at the ISS isn't suitable for a rescue mission >> since it's not modified to perform an EVA. Only the Crew Dragon capsule being
    used for the Polaris Dawn mission is fitted (or being fitted) for EVA.

    Why are you talking about rescue missions? Starliner's heat shield is intact.

    /dps

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    potstickers, Japanese gyoza, Chinese dumplings, let's do it

    Because they said there's about a 0.75% chance that the helium leak could result in a failure to initiate the retro-burn.

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  • From Alain Fournier@21:1/5 to Snidely on Sat Jun 1 13:26:15 2024
    On 2024-06-01 10:57 a.m., Snidely wrote:
    Thursday, Snidely quipped:

    Starliner is again at SLC-41 ahead of crewed launch, L0 currently June
    1st 12:25 pm EDT.

    Working around GSE issues with LOX topping.  L-01:29:01, and still
    within the built-in hold.


    Scrubbed. Darn.


    Alain Fournier

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  • From The Running Man@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Jun 2 11:33:26 2024
    On 01/06/2024 13:26 Alain Fournier <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2024-06-01 10:57 a.m., Snidely wrote:
    Thursday, Snidely quipped:

    Starliner is again at SLC-41 ahead of crewed launch, L0 currently June
    1st 12:25 pm EDT.

    Working around GSE issues with LOX topping.? L-01:29:01, and still
    within the built-in hold.


    Scrubbed. Darn.


    Alain Fournier


    One of the three redundant computers failed to start up properly (took too long to start up). They want to investigate before giving the go.

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  • From The Running Man@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Jun 3 13:19:49 2024
    On 02/06/2024 14:20 Snidely <[email protected]> wrote:
    After serious thinking Alain Fournier wrote :
    On 2024-06-01 10:57 a.m., Snidely wrote:
    Thursday, Snidely quipped:

    Starliner is again at SLC-41 ahead of crewed launch, L0 currently June 1st >>>> 12:25 pm EDT.

    Working around GSE issues with LOX topping. L-01:29:01, and still within >>> the built-in hold.


    Scrubbed. Darn.


    Alain Fournier

    Ground-based sequencer computer didn't sequence?

    /dps


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    In case of fire, exit the building before tweeting about it.
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    <https://www.theregister.com/2024/06/03/boeing_starliner_launch_scrubbed/>

    Turned out to be a redundant power supply of the ground sequencer computer that needs to be replaced. Not anything major. They should be back on the pad within a few days.

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  • From The Running Man@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Jun 4 11:20:05 2024
    On 02/06/2024 14:22 Snidely <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Friday or thereabouts, The Running Man declared ...
    On 30/05/2024 18:35 Snidely <[email protected]> wrote:
    The Running Man scribbled something on Thursday the 5/30/2024:
    On 30/05/2024 11:17 Snidely <[email protected]> wrote:
    Starliner is again at SLC-41 ahead of crewed launch, L0 currently June >>>>> 1st 12:25 pm EDT.

    /dps

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    Killing a mouse was hardly a Nobel Prize-worthy exercise, and Lawrence >>>>> went apopleptic when he learned a lousy rodent had peed away all his >>>>> precious heavy water.
    _The Disappearing Spoon_, Sam Kean

    AFAIK the Crew Dragon docked at the ISS isn't suitable for a rescue mission
    since it's not modified to perform an EVA. Only the Crew Dragon capsule >>>> being used for the Polaris Dawn mission is fitted (or being fitted) for >>>> EVA.

    Why are you talking about rescue missions? Starliner's heat shield is
    intact.

    /dps

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    potstickers, Japanese gyoza, Chinese dumplings, let's do it

    Because they said there's about a 0.75% chance that the helium leak could
    result in a failure to initiate the retro-burn.

    Was that 0.75% before or after the new backup backup procedure was implemented (using 4 RCS thrusters twice)?

    /dps

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    Who, me? And what lacuna?

    Here's your answer:

    "As it turned out, there was something to be concerned about. The review turned up what he called a ?design vulnerability? with Starliner?s propulsion system that had not been recognized. Starliner?s service module has four areas called ?doghouses?
    spaced 90 degrees apart that host both larger Orbital Maneuvering and Attitude Control (OMAC) thrusters and smaller reaction control system (RCS) thrusters. If two adjacent doghouses failed for some reason, though, it would prevent the spacecraft from
    doing a deorbit burn even though the spacecraft is designed with multiple ways to carry out the deorbit burn using combinations of OMAC and RCS thrusters."

    <https://www.thespacereview.com/article/4805/1>

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