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  • So Donald Duck, erm Trump wants to go to the moon, best place for him..

    From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 12 08:25:38 2017
    He will not like the bill if America wants to do it alone. There has been a long term plan to set up a station in orbit around the Moon for some time kicking around in Europe in collaboration with Russia and Japan and
    hopefully the Americans, but with a the current fortress America lunacy, who knows, but if they want to go, it would be quite nice to send Mr Trump there permanently I feel.
    :-)
    Brian

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  • From Jeff Findley@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 12 06:19:45 2017
    In article <p0o3q9$hrp$[email protected]>, [email protected]
    says...

    He will not like the bill if America wants to do it alone. There has been a long term plan to set up a station in orbit around the Moon for some time kicking around in Europe in collaboration with Russia and Japan and
    hopefully the Americans, but with a the current fortress America lunacy, who knows, but if they want to go, it would be quite nice to send Mr Trump there permanently I feel.
    :-)
    Brian

    TinyURL to the actual text of the memorandum on the White House website:

    https://tinyurl.com/y87fengk

    Toothless. No plan, no funding, so NASA is still as "rudderless" as
    they have been during every Administration following the cancellation of Apollo/Saturn (which was an artifact of the Cold War).

    Jeff
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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 12 18:31:14 2017
    Yes well maybe they by now should have evolved their own rudder.

    I think the problem really is that every few years they are asked to do
    other stuff and so its bait like they need a long term plan. You cannot do this stuff in one political term. You need a consensus across the political divide and a commitment to spend the right money on it.
    Brian

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    In article <p0o3q9$hrp$[email protected]>, [email protected]
    says...

    He will not like the bill if America wants to do it alone. There has been
    a
    long term plan to set up a station in orbit around the Moon for some time
    kicking around in Europe in collaboration with Russia and Japan and
    hopefully the Americans, but with a the current fortress America lunacy,
    who
    knows, but if they want to go, it would be quite nice to send Mr Trump
    there
    permanently I feel.
    :-)
    Brian

    TinyURL to the actual text of the memorandum on the White House website:

    https://tinyurl.com/y87fengk

    Toothless. No plan, no funding, so NASA is still as "rudderless" as
    they have been during every Administration following the cancellation of Apollo/Saturn (which was an artifact of the Cold War).

    Jeff
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  • From Jeff Findley@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 12 18:45:41 2017
    In article <p0p79p$s32$[email protected]>, [email protected]
    says...

    Yes well maybe they by now should have evolved their own rudder.

    I think the problem really is that every few years they are asked to do other stuff and so its bait like they need a long term plan. You cannot do this stuff in one political term. You need a consensus across the political divide and a commitment to spend the right money on it.

    True, but when Congress writes into law that NASA must spend money
    developing SLS/Orion, they're stuck spending that money every year on SLS/Orion. They can't simply decide to spend it elsewhere.

    To free up enough money to go to the moon, SLS must end. Orion possibly
    as well. There are hints in the language chosen for this memorandum
    that "commercial" contracts may yet displace SLS. That is, if Congress
    goes along. Which they might not.

    Jeff
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