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  • Re: Lighthouse of Alexandria really quite heavy

    From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Jul 17 07:20:48 2025
    XPost: alt.paranormal, alt.atheism

    On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 01:24:09 -0400, JTEM <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <105a1dp$17529$[email protected]> wrote:

    Attila wrote:

    On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 17:40:14 -0400, JTEM <[email protected]>
    Really? How often? Give us four or five examples, or is that
    "Too Often" for 5,000 years of written history?

    Research it for yourself. Troy is only the best known
    example.

    If Troy is real then so isn't the bible.

    You can find places with the same names as are in the bible,
    so the bible is real...

    You can find many places and people mentioned in the bible
    but that only goes toward validating the existence of those
    particular places and people and nothing else.

    Gone With the Wind has many real places and people mentioned
    but it is hardly a valid account of the Civil War or much of
    anything else.


    The problem is that I see no such examples here.

    Especially not Troy, obviously.

    You need to cherry pick your rules, apply them in way that
    allows you to pretend you're rational. But you're not.

    You believe in fairtales!

    --


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    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

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  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Jul 17 17:26:17 2025
    XPost: alt.paranormal, alt.atheism

    On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 14:26:13 -0400, JTEM <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <105bf85$1ggaa$[email protected]> wrote:

    On 7/17/25 7:16 AM, Attila wrote:

    There seems to be enough to convince the experts and the UN.

    If you took a vote, more people are convinced that the bible
    is real.

    But that belief is based upon a belief, not actual evidence.


    But it's a World Heritage Site. You think it wouldn't be if
    an accomplished fraud hadn't called it Troy?

    You're citing your priests as authorities, btw.

    I am relying upon the expertise of the people who examined
    and evaluated the evidence. I have that to be a lot more
    reliable than something based on "I believe".


    Calling Troy "Real" is saying that the bible is real, because
    you can find places with the same names...

    Of course you disagree because

    Either you agree with your own alleged logic -- making the
    bible real -- or you are a bigger idiot than I gave you
    credit for.

    Exactly what do you mean by saying the bible is "real"? A
    general statement such as that would also make Gone With the
    Wind real.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

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  • From Attila@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Jul 17 17:29:25 2025
    XPost: alt.paranormal, alt.atheism

    On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 14:27:18 -0400, JTEM <[email protected]>
    in alt.atheism with message-id
    <105bfa6$1ggaa$[email protected]> wrote:

    On 7/17/25 7:20 AM, Attila wrote:

    You can find many places and people mentioned in the bible
    but that only goes toward validating the existence of those
    particular places and people and nothing else.

    There is zero continuity in your mythological "Troy."

    There's only a single source.

    I will rely on the peer review which would have covered the
    evidence. If it turns out to be wrong it will not exactly
    be an unmitigated disaster. The record will be corrected, a
    number of people will appear to be idiots, and everyone else
    will just move on.

    --


    Every person in the US is here either
    legally or illegally. If they are here
    illegally they should be identified and
    deported as soon as possible without
    exception.

    Deport them all.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    The Dims have an appropriate party
    symbol: A jackass.

    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
    and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

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  • From Edward McGuire@21:1/5 to Attila on Fri Jul 18 18:01:22 2025
    XPost: alt.paranormal, alt.atheism

    On 2025-07-17, Attila <[email protected]> wrote:
    Exactly what do you mean by saying the bible is "real"? A
    general statement such as that would also make Gone With the
    Wind real.

    I believe the Bible is real. Hell, I've seen one!

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