JTEM wrote:
P.S.
I'm certain to a comfortable degree that alien tech has reached
us. It's simply a matter of odds. I do not believe anyone today
has ever witnessed it much less recovered any of it but I do
believe aliens had to have sent technology -- probes -- our way.
Again, simply a matter of odds...
Do the Google on biosignatures, the search thereof. Humans can
already detect biosignatures out beyond 100 light years away, and
we've only started this journey with the discovery of our first
exoplanet roughly 30 years ago!
NOTE:� "Biosignatures" is not Latin for "Found aliens!"� CO2 is
expelled by living things, for example (we breath it out), but
it also comes from volcanic activity. Both put CO2 into the
atmosphere. These biosignatures really just identify "Candidate"
planets in our search for life, to varying degree of probabilities.
Some biosignatures have no known origins apart from life, and the combination of signatures is always useful...
The earth has been broadcasting biosignatures for billions of
years. Turn back the clock some 2 billion years and any aliens
even out our humble level of technological achievement would
know that we're here, if they were within 100 light years or
more. They wouldn't know what kind of life, only that the earth
was a life bearing world. But that would be enough to mark us
for exploration. So if there are civilization out there, and
just one of them sent one probe every million years, it happened
no more often than that, we can estimate 2,000 probes sent at
us since The Great Oxidation Event. Some or all of them may
have reached the surface of the earth.
Want to say it happens only once ever 10 million years? Okay
there's been 200 alienspacecraft sent towards the earth... every
100 million year then there's been 20 alien probes sent at us
since The Great Oxidation Event.
Playing the same odds game here; the chances of finding a piece
of one lie somewhere between zero & nil. The planet is
geologically active.
if your belief makes you happy , believe it
In article <xiadnebCv-
[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
JTEM wrote:
P.S.
I'm certain to a comfortable degree that alien tech has reached
us. It's simply a matter of odds. I do not believe anyone today
has ever witnessed it much less recovered any of it but I do
believe aliens had to have sent technology -- probes -- our way.
Again, simply a matter of odds...
Do the Google on biosignatures, the search thereof. Humans can
already detect biosignatures out beyond 100 light years away, and
we've only started this journey with the discovery of our first
exoplanet roughly 30 years ago!
NOTE: "Biosignatures" is not Latin for "Found aliens!" CO2 is
expelled by living things, for example (we breath it out), but
it also comes from volcanic activity. Both put CO2 into the
atmosphere. These biosignatures really just identify "Candidate"
planets in our search for life, to varying degree of probabilities.
Some biosignatures have no known origins apart from life, and the combination of signatures is always useful...
The earth has been broadcasting biosignatures for billions of
years. Turn back the clock some 2 billion years and any aliens
even out our humble level of technological achievement would
know that we're here, if they were within 100 light years or
more. They wouldn't know what kind of life, only that the earth
was a life bearing world. But that would be enough to mark us
for exploration. So if there are civilization out there, and
just one of them sent one probe every million years, it happened
no more often than that, we can estimate 2,000 probes sent at
us since The Great Oxidation Event. Some or all of them may
have reached the surface of the earth.
Want to say it happens only once ever 10 million years? Okay
there's been 200 alienspacecraft sent towards the earth... every
100 million year then there's been 20 alien probes sent at us
since The Great Oxidation Event.
Playing the same odds game here; the chances of finding a pieceif your belief makes you happy , believe it
of one lie somewhere between zero & nil. The planet is
geologically active.
wats a jtem
Skeeter OG wrote:
In article <xiadnebCv-it's french for i love you
[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
JTEM wrote:
if your belief makes you happy , believe it
P.S.
I'm certain to a comfortable degree that alien tech has reached
us. It's simply a matter of odds. I do not believe anyone today
has ever witnessed it much less recovered any of it but I do
believe aliens had to have sent technology -- probes -- our way.
Again, simply a matter of odds...
Do the Google on biosignatures, the search thereof. Humans can
already detect biosignatures out beyond 100 light years away, and
we've only started this journey with the discovery of our first
exoplanet roughly 30 years ago!
NOTE:� "Biosignatures" is not Latin for "Found aliens!"� CO2 is
expelled by living things, for example (we breath it out), but
it also comes from volcanic activity. Both put CO2 into the
atmosphere. These biosignatures really just identify "Candidate"
planets in our search for life, to varying degree of probabilities.
Some biosignatures have no known origins apart from life, and the
combination of signatures is always useful...
The earth has been broadcasting biosignatures for billions of
years. Turn back the clock some 2 billion years and any aliens
even out our humble level of technological achievement would
know that we're here, if they were within 100 light years or
more. They wouldn't know what kind of life, only that the earth
was a life bearing world. But that would be enough to mark us
for exploration. So if there are civilization out there, and
just one of them sent one probe every million years, it happened
no more often than that, we can estimate 2,000 probes sent at
us since The Great Oxidation Event. Some or all of them may
have reached the surface of the earth.
Want to say it happens only once ever 10 million years? Okay
there's been 200 alienspacecraft sent towards the earth... every
100 million year then there's been 20 alien probes sent at us
since The Great Oxidation Event.
Playing the same odds game here; the chances of finding a piece
of one lie somewhere between zero & nil. The planet is
geologically active.
wats a jtem
don't you remember the song--
JTEM wrote:
i could prove their existence ,
I have to reiterate:� I do not subscribe to ancient aliens.
I do not believe there is any RECOVERABLE alien tech, much
less any that is lurking in museums or private collections
misidentified as terrestrial materials. But...
I do not claim to be omnipotent. To me, what I think I know,
what I believe is not relevant. The measure here is if
something is testable. And the ancient aliens idea is testable
with a little off-the-shelf tech and a sound inference drawn
from the Gospels of UFOlogy.
I do not agree with the ancient aliens folks, but I respect
any legitimate test of a hypothesis.
Quite frankly, I hope you prove me wrong. This would could
use a little magic in it -- and aliens and Bigfoots. Don't
mistaken my convictions for desires. i would love all you
folks to prove me wrong, I just don't think there's the
slightest chance of that ever happening.
but you would only deny it all
On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 12:31:17 -0700, the following appeared<Crickets>
in sci.skeptic, posted by % <[email protected]>:
JTEM wrote:Why not give it a try? If you refuse, that's what's called a
i could prove their existence ,
I have to reiterate:� I do not subscribe to ancient aliens.
I do not believe there is any RECOVERABLE alien tech, much
less any that is lurking in museums or private collections
misidentified as terrestrial materials. But...
I do not claim to be omnipotent. To me, what I think I know,
what I believe is not relevant. The measure here is if
something is testable. And the ancient aliens idea is testable
with a little off-the-shelf tech and a sound inference drawn
from the Gospels of UFOlogy.
I do not agree with the ancient aliens folks, but I respect
any legitimate test of a hypothesis.
Quite frankly, I hope you prove me wrong. This would could
use a little magic in it -- and aliens and Bigfoots. Don't
mistaken my convictions for desires. i would love all you
folks to prove me wrong, I just don't think there's the
slightest chance of that ever happening.
but you would only deny it all
"cop out".
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