JTEM wrote:
On 5/13/25 7:38 PM, David Dalton wrote:
As I state on the "Waning Clamshell/another reset to pre-judging�
thread on alt.religion.druid, there are now 283 DNA-based aliens
in my region, which is basically the Earth Moon system but not
including deep inside the Earth and the Moon (see that thread
for an exact description).
I don't believe that there's any aliens here.
Oh, aliens have sent tech here, for certain.
When we search for life on distant worlds what we're actually
doing is analyzing light.
Different elements absorb different wavelengths...
This is how we can be all but certain of life on a world more
than 100 light years away!
But, think of this:� We've only been searching for maybe 30 years,
or a little more.
That's it.
In a little more than 30 years we went from finding our very first
exoplanet to a very STRONG candidate for a life bearing world...
When did the earth become detectable this way to other worlds?
BILLIONS of years ago!
BILLIONS!
So if once AND ONLY ONCE every million years or so some aliens
detect the earth, notice that we're life bearing and sent a probe
to give us a look, there's been 2,0000 alien probes sent toards
us just since The Great Oxidation Event, the planet's first great
extinction event.
If it's just ONCE every million years, there's been over 60 since
the dinosaurs went extinct...
There's been two to three since the genus Homo arose -- Humans!
Again, that's if other civilizations go looking, spot us and send
a probe ONCE every million years...
million years is too long, no civilization has cohered for more
than... 1500 years?? plus technology, an alien society and its
culture is not going to remain stagnant for a million years, that
is just absurd!!
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1003rh6$2v9s5$[email protected]:
We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!
Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by
government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their funding
and reputations.
Why would government cover up a scientific
discovery of an exoplanet?
Is everything a conspiracy for you?
On Sat, 17 May 2025 09:25:55 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message >>news:[email protected]...
Malte Runz <[email protected]> wrote in >>>news:[email protected]:
On Fri, 16 May 2025 12:16:47 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message >>>>>news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>news:1005t7r$3cnf6$[email protected]:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Andrew W" <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>>>>news:1003rh6$2v9s5$[email protected]:
We didn't find our first exoplanet until the 1990s!
Um, only according to mainstream scientists who are funded by >>>>>>>>> government grants. They have to keep quiet or they lose their >>>>>>>>> funding and reputations.
Why would government cover up a scientific
discovery of an exoplanet?
Simple. Because then the world would find out the earth's and
humanity's true history, and that would lead to them losing power >>>>>>> and profits.
Has that happened since the discovery
of hundreds of exoplanets?
Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not >>>>>telling the people the important details like the earth's true history >>>>>and who/what else is in this galaxy.
I take it that you know many of the details. You know Earth's true
history and a lot of other facts about what goes on in this galaxy.
But instead of sharing that information, and your sources, with us,
you'll spend post after post coming up with excuses for not doing it.
'You're too lazy to do your own research.' 'I can't list all the
information I've spent decades finding.' 'The deep state has destroyed >>>> the evidence.' 'You only believe MSM.' 'You're mind controlled by the
elites.' 'Why do you even need evidence?'
On and on it goes. We been through this many times before, so unless
you have some new material, I'll suggest you go fuck yourself. Cool?
It is depressing there are so many
conspiracy-behind-everything kooks like
him. Their lives re so unremarkable and
enpty they invent a "special knowledge"
they think elevates them above everyone
else.
But scientists never invent new theories to become prominent and get >>government grants?
Was that Einstein's scheme, in your view?
Every ten years or so they throw out most of their theories and make up
new
ones. But you still trust them that only they have the 'facts'.
An analogy might be useful here: a tree changes its leaves every year,
but it remains a tree.
On Mon, 19 May 2025 22:06:04 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Malte Runz" wrote in message[...]
news:[email protected]...
On Mon, 19 May 2025 12:52:41 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
I think you follow your emotions and authorities more than actual
evidence.
There is no "actual evidence".
Yes there is but you've never looked for any. You just listen to the public >> jerks offs and CIA and believe everything they say.
How do you know your alternative news sources aren't lying to you?
On Mon, 19 May 2025 22:06:04 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Malte Runz" wrote in message >>news:[email protected]...[...]
On Mon, 19 May 2025 12:52:41 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
I think you follow your emotions and authorities more than actual >>>>evidence.
There is no "actual evidence".
Yes there is but you've never looked for any. You just listen to the
public
jerks offs and CIA and believe everything they say.
How do you know your alternative news sources aren't lying to you?
Vincent Maycock wrote:
On Mon, 19 May 2025 22:06:04 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Malte Runz" wrote in message[...]
news:[email protected]...
On Mon, 19 May 2025 12:52:41 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
I think you follow your emotions and authorities more than actual
evidence.
There is no "actual evidence".
Yes there is but you've never looked for any. You just listen to the
public
jerks offs and CIA and believe everything they say.
How do you know your alternative news sources aren't lying to you?
i have seen only debunks so far of all the videos and images, nothing other >than that pentagon video, which seems to prove nothing at all.
On 5/19/25 3:35 PM, jojo wrote:
i have seen only debunks so far of all the videos and images, nothing
other than that pentagon video, which seems to prove nothing at all.
Actually they prove quite a lot!
For one thing, they're coming FROM the pentagon!
The Pentagon created the Tic Tac "UFO" talk... the
recent alien tech stuff, all came from the pentagon.
The chief witness in congress had their every word
screened & approved by the pentagon BEFORE testifying!
Roswell? The story and photos were released by the
military!
Kenneth Arnold was lured to Mt Rainer with the promise
of a reward. Who lured him? THE MILITARY!
On Tue, 20 May 2025 09:15:21 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Vincent Maycock" wrote in message >>news:[email protected]...
On Mon, 19 May 2025 22:06:04 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Malte Runz" wrote in message >>>>news:[email protected]...
On Mon, 19 May 2025 12:52:41 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]> >>>[...]
I think you follow your emotions and authorities more than actual >>>>>>evidence.
There is no "actual evidence".
Yes there is but you've never looked for any. You just listen to the >>>>public
jerks offs and CIA and believe everything they say.
How do you know your alternative news sources aren't lying to you?
I and millions of others have researched this for decades.
What's your top evidence that you discovered while doing this
research?
How much research have you and others here done to know that >>governments(politicians), grant paid scientists and bought off media have >>been telling the truth?
It's become quite obvious our governments and media have been lying to us.
How, specifically, has it become obvious? And why would mainstream
society be interested in lying to us?
On Mon, 19 May 2025 17:26:52 -0700, Vincent Maycock
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2025 09:15:21 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Vincent Maycock" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On Mon, 19 May 2025 22:06:04 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Malte Runz" wrote in message[...]
news:[email protected]...
On Mon, 19 May 2025 12:52:41 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
I think you follow your emotions and authorities more than actual >>>>>>> evidence.
There is no "actual evidence".
Yes there is but you've never looked for any. You just listen to the >>>>> public
jerks offs and CIA and believe everything they say.
How do you know your alternative news sources aren't lying to you?
I and millions of others have researched this for decades.
What's your top evidence that you discovered while doing this
research?
Hold it...
[pop pop popop popopop popop pop pop...]
Please, continue.
How much research have you and others here done to know thatHow, specifically, has it become obvious? And why would mainstream
governments(politicians), grant paid scientists and bought off media have >>> been telling the truth?
It's become quite obvious our governments and media have been lying to us. >>
society be interested in lying to us?
Flat Earthers claim the that the very same people are lying to us
about the shape of the Earth. Now, that's a kook fight I'd like to
watch.
'In the blue corner, the contester, with barely a decade in the spot
light, the enemy of all things spherical, the denier of gravity, the
buster of the Globe, Mr. 'You don't understand Perspective' himself,
the one and only, Flerrrrrrrrrrf!
And in the red corner, with decades of research into negative space
aliens from Orion, abductions, and sightings of cigar-shaped objects, representing the Lightworkers of the Milkyway, Andreeeeeeeeew Dubba
Uuuuuu!
Alright guys, I want a clean fight. No facts, no coherent arguments,
no physical evidence. Got it? I wanna see strawmen, un-named sources,
appeals to authorities, and, of course, always use ancient wisdom over
modern science. 'Kay?
Ladies and Gentlemen. Let's get ready to
stumblllllllllllllllllllllle!!!'
On Tue, 20 May 2025 10:11:35 +0200, Malte Runz <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Mon, 19 May 2025 17:26:52 -0700, Vincent Maycock
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2025 09:15:21 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Vincent Maycock" wrote in message >>>>news:[email protected]...
On Mon, 19 May 2025 22:06:04 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]> >>>>>wrote:
"Malte Runz" wrote in message >>>>>>news:[email protected]...
On Mon, 19 May 2025 12:52:41 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]> >>>>>[...]
I think you follow your emotions and authorities more than actual >>>>>>>>evidence.
There is no "actual evidence".
Yes there is but you've never looked for any. You just listen to the >>>>>>public
jerks offs and CIA and believe everything they say.
How do you know your alternative news sources aren't lying to you?
I and millions of others have researched this for decades.
What's your top evidence that you discovered while doing this
research?
Hold it...
[pop pop popop popopop popop pop pop...]
Please, continue.
How much research have you and others here done to know that >>>>governments(politicians), grant paid scientists and bought off media have >>>>been telling the truth?How, specifically, has it become obvious? And why would mainstream >>>society be interested in lying to us?
It's become quite obvious our governments and media have been lying to us. >>>
Flat Earthers claim the that the very same people are lying to us
about the shape of the Earth. Now, that's a kook fight I'd like to
watch.
'In the blue corner, the contester, with barely a decade in the spot
light, the enemy of all things spherical, the denier of gravity, the
buster of the Globe, Mr. 'You don't understand Perspective' himself,
the one and only, Flerrrrrrrrrrf!
And in the red corner, with decades of research into negative space
aliens from Orion, abductions, and sightings of cigar-shaped objects, >>representing the Lightworkers of the Milkyway, Andreeeeeeeeew Dubba
Uuuuuu!
Alright guys, I want a clean fight. No facts, no coherent arguments,
no physical evidence. Got it? I wanna see strawmen, un-named sources, >>appeals to authorities, and, of course, always use ancient wisdom over >>modern science. 'Kay?
Ladies and Gentlemen. Let's get ready to
stumblllllllllllllllllllllle!!!'
Interesting, but I am not a flat-earther.
On 5/19/25 7:15 PM, Andrew W wrote:
I and millions of others have researched this for decades.
How much research have you and others here done to know that
governments(politicians), grant paid scientists and bought off media have
been telling the truth?
It's become quite obvious our governments and media have been lying to
us.
Kenneth Arnold was lured to Mt Rainier by the government.
The Roswell "UFO Crash" was announced by the government.
The "Tic Tac" and all that nonsense was announced by the
government.
And, hold on to your hat but, the "Congress" holding those
congressional hearings on UFOs is our government.
The government literally invented UFOs and has actively
disseminated the message ever since.
And you researched this stuff? And never noticed?
Hmm.
On 5/20/25 6:17 PM, Andrew W wrote:
Accusing the messenger (gov) fallacy.
You don't understand the fallacy.
The government isn't relaying the news, it's the originator.
There is a difference.
Yes the gov is guilty - of covering up ufos
The opposite is true. It really is the U.S. government behind
all the "Tic Tac" and other releases, the U.S. government
behind the U.S. government hearings, the U.S. government that
broke the Roswell story, the U.S. government that lured Arnold
to Mt Rainier... on & on & on.
On Tue, 20 May 2025 10:30:08 -0700, Vincent Maycock
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2025 10:11:35 +0200, Malte Runz <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Mon, 19 May 2025 17:26:52 -0700, Vincent Maycock
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2025 09:15:21 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Vincent Maycock" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On Mon, 19 May 2025 22:06:04 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote:
"Malte Runz" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On Mon, 19 May 2025 12:52:41 +1000, "Andrew W" <[email protected]> >>>>>> [...]
I think you follow your emotions and authorities more than actual >>>>>>>>> evidence.
There is no "actual evidence".
Yes there is but you've never looked for any. You just listen to the >>>>>>> public
jerks offs and CIA and believe everything they say.
How do you know your alternative news sources aren't lying to you? >>>>>>
I and millions of others have researched this for decades.
What's your top evidence that you discovered while doing this
research?
Hold it...
[pop pop popop popopop popop pop pop...]
Please, continue.
How much research have you and others here done to know that
governments(politicians), grant paid scientists and bought off media have >>>>> been telling the truth?
It's become quite obvious our governments and media have been lying to us.
How, specifically, has it become obvious? And why would mainstream
society be interested in lying to us?
Flat Earthers claim the that the very same people are lying to us
about the shape of the Earth. Now, that's a kook fight I'd like to
watch.
'In the blue corner, the contester, with barely a decade in the spot
light, the enemy of all things spherical, the denier of gravity, the
buster of the Globe, Mr. 'You don't understand Perspective' himself,
the one and only, Flerrrrrrrrrrf!
And in the red corner, with decades of research into negative space
aliens from Orion, abductions, and sightings of cigar-shaped objects,
representing the Lightworkers of the Milkyway, Andreeeeeeeeew Dubba
Uuuuuu!
Alright guys, I want a clean fight. No facts, no coherent arguments,
no physical evidence. Got it? I wanna see strawmen, un-named sources,
appeals to authorities, and, of course, always use ancient wisdom over
modern science. 'Kay?
Ladies and Gentlemen. Let's get ready to
stumblllllllllllllllllllllle!!!'
Interesting, but I am not a flat-earther.
I know... I wish we could lure one in to join the conversation. In a
'new pet toy' kind of way.
On 5/19/25 7:46 PM, Andrew W wrote:
Who said the military 'lured' Arnold?
*Sigh*
For a "Researcher" you sure never bothered to research!
Try Wiki. Scroll down after you read it, look up the cites.
On 5/21/25 1:49 AM, Andrew W wrote:
Are you saying the governments are making up stories? Why?
Cover.
The Kenneth Arnold thing was definitely a test. The famous Tic Tac
thing was also a test. Clearly. They sent an unarmed jet to
intercept a unknown object? Why?
There was a weapons officer onboard. No weapons.
The thing is, you have to perform your test on your own people,
and they can't know they're being tested. Because you're not
going to tell your enemies what you're doing and when you're
doing it.
In some instances it was the recovery of tech, either our own
or someone else's. We didn't want the Russians to know if we
recovered their tech, of course, and if it was a classified
project you need a cover story... "Oh well, it crashed!" blows
your cover.
Terms like "UFO" and "UAP" and whatever; they weren't invented
to describe alien craft. All it ever meant was that they hadn't
identified it yet! That's all.
Remember the Chinese balloon? That was repeatedly referred to
as a UFO/UAP/UAV and whatever.
Actually, it can all be summed up in two words: It works.
There. That's why they do it.
The opposite is true. It really is the U.S. government behind
all the "Tic Tac" and other releases, the U.S. government
behind the U.S. government hearings, the U.S. government that
broke the Roswell story, the U.S. government that lured Arnold
to Mt Rainier... on & on & on.
No the mainstream media put out the stories.
No. The military put out everything. The media ran the stories
but the government originating them all.
The military is never supposed to tell you anything if it can
avoid it. Information is power. Release an image of a Tic Tac
from a Navy jet and you just told China and Russia what the
Navy Jets can see.
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