• More than 1,600 scientists, including two Nobel laureates, declare clim

    From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 31 21:05:01 2023
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    A coalition of 1,609 scientists from around the world have signed a
    declaration stating �there is no climate emergency� and that they
    �strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2 policy� being
    pushed across the globe. The declaration itself does not demonize
    carbon monoxide and does not discuss any harmful effect of other
    pollutants. The thrust of the declaration challenges the hysteria
    brought about by the narrative of imminent doom.

    The declaration, put together by the Global Climate Intelligence Group (CLINTEL), was made public this month and urges that �Climate science
    should be less political, while climate policies should be more
    scientific.�

    CLINTEL is an independent foundation that operates in the fields of
    climate change and climate policy. CLINTEL was founded in 2019 by
    emeritus professor of geophysics Guus Berkhout and science journalist
    Marcel Crok.

    �Scientists should openly address uncertainties and exaggerations in
    their predictions of global warming, while politicians should
    dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined benefits
    of their policy measures,� the declaration says.

    Of the 1,609 scientists who have signed the declaration, two
    signatories are Nobel Prize laureates. The most recent to sign is Nobel
    Prize winner Dr. John F. Clauser, winner of the 2022 Nobel Prize in
    Physics. In an announcement from CLINTEL, Clauser is quoted as saying "Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive shock-
    journalistic pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a
    scapegoat for a wide variety of other unrelated ills. It has been
    promoted and extended by similarly misguided business marketing agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and environmentalists."

    The underlying report that engendered the declaration lays out a series
    of statements challenging many of the common climate claims. For
    example, one of the most common claims � and repeated without question
    by many � is that the earth will soon pass "tipping points that will
    lead to catastrophic environmental damage, including dangerous sea
    level rise, entire species going extinct, and even greater suffering in
    many nations, especially the poorest."

    The sense of immediate crisis has been repeated constantly by
    mainstream media, including The New York Times, which said flatly,
    "Earth is likely to cross a critical threshold for global warming
    within the next decade."

    In 2009, former vice president Al Gore famously predicted that "the
    Arctic would be ice-free by 2013." He later backtracked, according to
    Reuters, who said Gore was merely quoting other scientific reports.
    Gore had three years earlier published "An Inconvenient Truth" the
    subtitle of which was "The Planetary Emergency of Global Warming and
    What We Can Do About It." A documentary film based on the book earned $24,146,161 in gross receipts that year.

    Celebrity activist Greta Thunberg tweeted in 2018 � five years after
    Gore's doomsday prediction � that "climate change will wipe out all of
    humanity unless we stop using fossil fuels over the next five years."
    The Highland County Press reported that she deleted the tweet.

    Last week, John Kerry, President Biden's "Special Presidential Envoy
    for Climate" spoke at a conference in Edinburgh, Scotland, saying that "scientists who have spent a lifetime tracking this human-made crisis
    described themselves as 'alarmed' and 'terrified.' As one said
    unequivocally, �we are now in uncharted territory.�

    "So now, humanity is inexorably threatened by humanity itself�by those
    seducing people into buying into a completely fictitious alternative
    reality where we don�t need to act and we don�t even need to care,"
    Kerry added.

    The signatories to the CLINTEL declaration say that global warming is
    �far slower than predicted,� and that �inadequate models� often guide
    climate policy.

    The CLINTEL declaration comes at a time when recent claims abound that
    natural disasters such as the wildfires in Maui and Canada, the
    heatwaves across the globe and other events are driven by climate
    change. The declaration goes on to challenge the ever-ready blame on
    climate change, stating �There is no statistical evidence that global
    warming is intensifying hurricanes, floods, droughts and suchlike
    natural disasters, or making them more frequent.�

    As President Biden and countless world leaders push heavily for net-
    zero carbon emissions by 2050 the scientists assert that this is not
    only �unrealistic,� but harmful to world economies.

    �There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for panic
    and alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2
    policy proposed for 2050,� the paper reads, proposing �adaptation
    instead of mitigation.�

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 5 10:10:28 2023
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    On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 21:05:01 -0400, Ubiquitous <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    A coalition of 1,609 scientists from around the world have signed a >declaration stating �there is no climate emergency� and that they
    �strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2 policy� being >pushed across the globe. The declaration itself does not demonize
    carbon monoxide and does not discuss any harmful effect of other
    pollutants. The thrust of the declaration challenges the hysteria
    brought about by the narrative of imminent doom.

    The declaration, put together by the Global Climate Intelligence Group >(CLINTEL), was made public this month and urges that �Climate science
    should be less political, while climate policies should be more
    scientific.�

    CLINTEL is an independent foundation that operates in the fields of
    climate change and climate policy. CLINTEL was founded in 2019 by
    emeritus professor of geophysics Guus Berkhout and science journalist
    Marcel Crok.

    �Scientists should openly address uncertainties and exaggerations in
    their predictions of global warming, while politicians should
    dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined benefits
    of their policy measures,� the declaration says.


    But I thought the debate was over and there was universal acceptance
    of man-made climate change?

    <eyeroll>

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  • From Robert Gowan@21:1/5 to NoBody on Tue Sep 5 07:17:48 2023
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    On 9/5/2023 7:10 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 21:05:01 -0400, Ubiquitous <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    A coalition of 1,609 scientists from around the world have signed a
    declaration stating “there is no climate emergency” and that they
    “strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2 policy” being >> pushed across the globe. The declaration itself does not demonize
    carbon monoxide and does not discuss any harmful effect of other
    pollutants. The thrust of the declaration challenges the hysteria
    brought about by the narrative of imminent doom.

    The declaration, put together by the Global Climate Intelligence Group
    (CLINTEL), was made public this month and urges that “Climate science
    should be less political, while climate policies should be more
    scientific.”

    CLINTEL is an independent foundation that operates in the fields of
    climate change and climate policy. CLINTEL was founded in 2019 by
    emeritus professor of geophysics Guus Berkhout and science journalist
    Marcel Crok.

    “Scientists should openly address uncertainties and exaggerations in
    their predictions of global warming, while politicians should
    dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined benefits
    of their policy measures,” the declaration says.


    But I thought the debate was over and there was universal acceptance
    of man-made climate change?

    There is. These 1600 "scientists" are not climate scientists — not a single one
    of them.

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  • From Otto J. Makela@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 6 11:45:36 2023
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    Berkhout founded the Netherlands-based organization Climate
    Intelligence Foundation (CLINTEL). Mid 2019 plans of CLINTEL and
    Berkhout were leaked showing that they were organizing a
    campaign against political commitments to net zero carbon
    emissions being made into law. The campaign features a number of
    academics and industry figures with ties to climate change
    sceptics groups, as well as members from oil and gas companies.
    Berkhout claimed the ideal of the organization was to provide an
    alternative to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
    In late September 2019 the group produced an open letter which
    presented a European Climate Declaration, stating that there was
    no climate emergency and repeating a number of claims that were
    inconsistent with the scientific evidence on climate. A fact
    check performed by climate scientists for Climate Feedback gave
    the letter an overall scientific credibility of "very low", and
    tagged it as "Biased, Cherry-picking, Inaccurate, Misleading".
    The analysis also added that, out of the roughly 500
    signatories, only 10 self-identified as climate scientists. The
    document was later rebranded as the World Climate Declaration.
    -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guus_Berkhout
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  • From Still Bud@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 6 02:16:40 2023
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    On Tue, 5 Sep 2023 07:17:48 -0700, Robert Gowan <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Global Climate Intelligence Group

    https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.32HG6HR

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  • From TruthBarker@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Wed Sep 6 08:54:38 2023
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    More than 99.9% of studies agree: Humans caused climate change

    More than 99.9% of peer-reviewed scientific papers agree that climate
    change is mainly caused by humans, according to a new survey of 88,125 climate-related studies.

    The research updates a similar 2013 paper revealing that 97% of studies published between 1991 and 2012 supported the idea that human activities
    are altering Earth’s climate. The current survey examines the literature published from 2012 to November 2020 to explore whether the consensus
    has changed.

    “We are virtually certain that the consensus is well over 99% now and
    that it’s pretty much case closed for any meaningful public conversation about the reality of human-caused climate change,” said Mark Lynas, a visiting fellow at the Alliance for Science and the paper’s first author.

    https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2021/10/more-999-studies-agree-humans-caused-climate-change

    In recent years we have seen a huge increase in climate change related disasters around the world with destruction of property damage and loss
    of life.

    Only a blind fool will say everything is alright and minimize the
    effects of climate change. It is obvious, mega companies in the
    hydrocarbon business are very worried, they will hire Scientists
    (whores) to give us lip service. Only a fool will fall for that.

    Trump during his presidency put his finger up in the air and wished for
    more global warming because it was a cold day. This is how stupid Trump
    is. At this point I should mention that Greta Thunberg is a lot smarter
    than Trump.

    It is unfortunate Trump wasted four years in the fight against climate
    change. If Trump is elected again, America will burn down to the ground.
    He has no sense of responsibility for the American people. In the near
    future, we can be glad he will be busy fighting jail time.

    Environmental Research: https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ac2966/pdf


    Please ignore the following bullshit, if you value your children's life

    On 8/31/23 10:05 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    A coalition of 1,609 scientists from around the world have signed a declaration stating “there is no climate emergency” and that they “strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2 policy” being pushed across the globe. The declaration itself does not demonize
    carbon monoxide and does not discuss any harmful effect of other
    pollutants. The thrust of the declaration challenges the hysteria
    brought about by the narrative of imminent doom.

    The declaration, put together by the Global Climate Intelligence Group (CLINTEL), was made public this month and urges that “Climate science should be less political, while climate policies should be more scientific.”

    CLINTEL is an independent foundation that operates in the fields of
    climate change and climate policy. CLINTEL was founded in 2019 by
    emeritus professor of geophysics Guus Berkhout and science journalist
    Marcel Crok.

    “Scientists should openly address uncertainties and exaggerations in
    their predictions of global warming, while politicians should
    dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined benefits
    of their policy measures,” the declaration says.

    Of the 1,609 scientists who have signed the declaration, two
    signatories are Nobel Prize laureates. The most recent to sign is Nobel
    Prize winner Dr. John F. Clauser, winner of the 2022 Nobel Prize in
    Physics. In an announcement from CLINTEL, Clauser is quoted as saying "Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive shock-
    journalistic pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a
    scapegoat for a wide variety of other unrelated ills. It has been
    promoted and extended by similarly misguided business marketing agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and environmentalists."

    The underlying report that engendered the declaration lays out a series
    of statements challenging many of the common climate claims. For
    example, one of the most common claims – and repeated without question
    by many – is that the earth will soon pass "tipping points that will
    lead to catastrophic environmental damage, including dangerous sea
    level rise, entire species going extinct, and even greater suffering in
    many nations, especially the poorest."

    The sense of immediate crisis has been repeated constantly by
    mainstream media, including The New York Times, which said flatly,
    "Earth is likely to cross a critical threshold for global warming
    within the next decade."

    In 2009, former vice president Al Gore famously predicted that "the
    Arctic would be ice-free by 2013." He later backtracked, according to Reuters, who said Gore was merely quoting other scientific reports.
    Gore had three years earlier published "An Inconvenient Truth" the
    subtitle of which was "The Planetary Emergency of Global Warming and
    What We Can Do About It." A documentary film based on the book earned $24,146,161 in gross receipts that year.

    Celebrity activist Greta Thunberg tweeted in 2018 – five years after
    Gore's doomsday prediction – that "climate change will wipe out all of humanity unless we stop using fossil fuels over the next five years."
    The Highland County Press reported that she deleted the tweet.

    Last week, John Kerry, President Biden's "Special Presidential Envoy
    for Climate" spoke at a conference in Edinburgh, Scotland, saying that "scientists who have spent a lifetime tracking this human-made crisis described themselves as 'alarmed' and 'terrified.' As one said
    unequivocally, “we are now in uncharted territory.”

    "So now, humanity is inexorably threatened by humanity itself—by those seducing people into buying into a completely fictitious alternative
    reality where we don’t need to act and we don’t even need to care,"
    Kerry added.

    The signatories to the CLINTEL declaration say that global warming is
    “far slower than predicted,” and that “inadequate models” often guide climate policy.

    The CLINTEL declaration comes at a time when recent claims abound that natural disasters such as the wildfires in Maui and Canada, the
    heatwaves across the globe and other events are driven by climate
    change. The declaration goes on to challenge the ever-ready blame on
    climate change, stating “There is no statistical evidence that global warming is intensifying hurricanes, floods, droughts and suchlike
    natural disasters, or making them more frequent.”

    As President Biden and countless world leaders push heavily for net-
    zero carbon emissions by 2050 the scientists assert that this is not
    only “unrealistic,” but harmful to world economies.

    “There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for panic
    and alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2
    policy proposed for 2050,” the paper reads, proposing “adaptation
    instead of mitigation.”

    --
    Let's go Brandon!


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