• "In reality there is almost nothing to understand in the theory of rela

    From LaurenceClarkCrossen@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 9 19:43:37 2025
    "'When the theories of relativity were experimentally confirmed, the red
    carpet was rolled out despite (or perhaps because of) the fact that
    almost no one understood them.'"

    - "On the empirical evidence of Special Relativity" by Antonio Leon free
    pdf= https://www.academia.edu/91707309/On_the_empirical_evidence_of_Special_Relativity?email_work_card=view-paper

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  • From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 9 21:21:15 2025
    Le 09/01/2025 à 20:43, [email protected] (LaurenceClarkCrossen) a écrit
    :
    "'When the theories of relativity were experimentally confirmed, the red carpet was rolled out despite (or perhaps because of) the fact that
    almost no one understood them.'"


    It's a bit true, and it's also a bit normal.
    We give a calculation, an equation, a bit randomly (simply proposing the invariance of the speed of light as a basis is good, but it doesn't
    explain WHY) and we see that in some cases it works, so we're happy. We
    have something fantastic and new.
    All this is very normal.
    Where it's no longer normal is when someone says: "Everything is
    ultimately very simple, and I understood how it worked; neither Poincaré
    nor Einstein could find the right explanation, and I'm going to give it to
    you using a much simpler and more experimentally obvious basic
    mathematical concept" and then, a real universal miracle occurs: "We spit
    in his face".
    Don't laugh, friends, it's not funny.
    Once the principle is understood, everything is very simple.
    And no more need to bother with hyperbolic geometry, ridiculous
    considerations (the disk contracts at the periphery but not at the
    radius), flagrant contradictions even at the base (in apparent speed the measurements are no longer reciprocal), incomprehension of the notion of causality, of the concreted and stupid Minkowskian block (as if space-time
    were geometrically a concrete block).
    No, no, the relativistic problem is not so much a scientific problem as a human, moral, pathological problem. We have here thousands of men who see clearly (if they look) that something is wrong, like small pebbles in an immense grinder, but are very happy with their mathematical grinder. It
    does not occur to them to change the nature of the olives (the basic
    concepts), or to see if there are not pebbles in them. Pebbles made
    lovable by psychological acceptance: "We do not want Doctor Hachel to give
    us his opinion". We prefer to throw stones in the grinder rather than
    admit that he is stronger than us on these very specific problems.

    R.H.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 9 22:51:41 2025
    W dniu 09.01.2025 o 20:43, LaurenceClarkCrossen pisze:
    "'When the theories of relativity were experimentally confirmed

    They were not. Relativistic fanatics have just
    invented some new meaning for the word "confirmed",
    as well as for some other words involved.

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  • From LaurenceClarkCrossen@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Thu Jan 9 22:17:57 2025
    On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 21:51:41 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 09.01.2025 o 20:43, LaurenceClarkCrossen pisze:
    "'When the theories of relativity were experimentally confirmed

    They were not. Relativistic fanatics have just
    invented some new meaning for the word "confirmed",
    as well as for some other words involved.
    Of course, they could not be confirmed because no one understood them.
    The theories are not coherent or logical and make no rational
    predictions. If they understood them, they would know they were pure
    nonsense. The point is that they were accepted by proclamation by
    charlatans pretending to understand nonsense.

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  • From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 9 22:20:16 2025
    Le 09/01/2025 à 22:51, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :

    They were not. Relativistic fanatics have just
    invented some new meaning for the word "confirmed",
    as well as for some other words involved.

    Yes, the theory of relativity has been confirmed many times, but not in
    the sense that they think.
    They think "we have confirmed the theory" when it should be said: "We have confirmed that things are happening in the relationships between space and time".

    It is completely different.

    And very often, the theory was introduced AFTER the observed facts and as
    if to explain them. It is therefore only half valid, because it smells of patching.

    It would have been useful to predict the facts BEFORE (as I do for
    rotating frames of reference, accelerated frames of reference, and the
    spatial zoom effect) that cannot be predicted without a complete mastery
    of the theory while using the mathematics of an average 18-year-old
    student.

    At this point, it goes without saying that the theory takes on incredible strength, because it is logical and totally predictive. This is not yet
    the case today, where in scientific circles these predictions cited above
    do not exist and where the theory is riddled with falsehoods and
    inexplicable paradoxes.

    R.H.

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  • From LaurenceClarkCrossen@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Thu Jan 9 22:48:25 2025
    On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 21:51:41 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 09.01.2025 o 20:43, LaurenceClarkCrossen pisze:
    "'When the theories of relativity were experimentally confirmed

    They were not. Relativistic fanatics have just
    invented some new meaning for the word "confirmed",
    as well as for some other words involved.
    Leon quotes Weyll as saying Einstein banished the dogma of simultaneity,
    so we rank him with Copernicus. Leon says it's not a dogma and is
    essential to the second law of logic.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to LaurenceClarkCrossen on Thu Jan 9 14:37:15 2025
    LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

    "'When the theories of relativity were experimentally confirmed, the red carpet was rolled out despite (or perhaps because of) the fact that
    almost no one understood them.'"

    - "On the empirical evidence of Special Relativity" by Antonio Leon free
    pdf= https://www.academia.edu/91707309/On_the_empirical_evidence_of_Special_Relativity?email_work_card=view-paper


    dats true, i don't undersatand nuthin in the theory of relativity.



    nutin at'all

    nutin.


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    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From LaurenceClarkCrossen@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Fri Jan 10 00:00:39 2025
    On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 22:37:15 +0000, The Starmaker wrote:

    LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

    "'When the theories of relativity were experimentally confirmed, the red
    carpet was rolled out despite (or perhaps because of) the fact that
    almost no one understood them.'"

    - "On the empirical evidence of Special Relativity" by Antonio Leon free
    pdf=
    https://www.academia.edu/91707309/On_the_empirical_evidence_of_Special_Relativity?email_work_card=view-paper


    dats true, i don't undersatand nuthin in the theory of relativity.



    nutin at'all

    nutin.

    But you still believe, and that's what counts!

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  • From LaurenceClarkCrossen@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Fri Jan 10 01:39:02 2025
    On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 22:37:15 +0000, The Starmaker wrote:

    LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

    "'When the theories of relativity were experimentally confirmed, the red
    carpet was rolled out despite (or perhaps because of) the fact that
    almost no one understood them.'"

    - "On the empirical evidence of Special Relativity" by Antonio Leon free
    pdf=
    https://www.academia.edu/91707309/On_the_empirical_evidence_of_Special_Relativity?email_work_card=view-paper


    dats true, i don't undersatand nuthin in the theory of relativity.



    nutin at'all

    nutin.

    Leon has an interesting section in his free pdf book "Apparent
    Relativity" on the laws of logic and relativity.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 10 08:01:38 2025
    W dniu 09.01.2025 o 23:20, Richard Hachel pisze:
    Le 09/01/2025 à 22:51, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :

    They were not. Relativistic fanatics have just
    invented some new meaning for the word "confirmed",
    as well as for some  other words involved.

    Yes, the theory of relativity has been confirmed many times

    It was not. It was only "confirmed in the
    meaning of a relativistic idiot".


    , but not in
    the sense that they think.
    They think "we have confirmed the theory" when it should be said: "We
    have confirmed that things are happening in the relationships between
    space and time".

    Or maybe the relationships between "time
    in the meaning of a relativistic idiot"
    amd "space in the meaning of a relativistic
    idiot".
    Poincare was right and self-appointed
    "realists" are mistaken, physics is an
    outcome of a word game, experiments
    can only affect it indirect way.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to LaurenceClarkCrossen on Thu Jan 9 23:20:26 2025
    LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

    On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 22:37:15 +0000, The Starmaker wrote:

    LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

    "'When the theories of relativity were experimentally confirmed, the red >> carpet was rolled out despite (or perhaps because of) the fact that
    almost no one understood them.'"

    - "On the empirical evidence of Special Relativity" by Antonio Leon free >> pdf=
    https://www.academia.edu/91707309/On_the_empirical_evidence_of_Special_Relativity?email_work_card=view-paper


    dats true, i don't undersatand nuthin in the theory of relativity.



    nutin at'all

    nutin.

    But you still believe, and that's what counts!


    Ding-an-Sich


    --
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    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 10 23:42:20 2025
    W dniu 10.01.2025 o 21:08, Ross Finlayson pisze:


    Leon has an interesting section in his free pdf book "Apparent
    Relativity" on the laws of logic and relativity.

    In reality the principle of Relativity is merely
    a negative assertion "motion is relative not absolute"


    Right, The Shit is merely an assertion.
    Later on, of course, the term "confirm"
    was redefined to make it "confirmed".

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 11 08:19:43 2025
    W dniu 11.01.2025 o 06:39, Ross Finlayson pisze:
    On 01/10/2025 02:42 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
    W dniu 10.01.2025 o 21:08, Ross Finlayson pisze:


    Leon has an interesting section in his free pdf book "Apparent
    Relativity" on the laws of logic and relativity.

    In reality the principle of Relativity is merely
    a negative assertion "motion is relative not absolute"


    Right, The Shit is merely an assertion.
    Later on, of course, the term "confirm"
    was redefined to make it "confirmed".


    There _is_ space contraction and what's involved
    is "Zero-eth laws of motion" and _classical mechanics_
    and under-definition in _classical mechanics_, then
    that as with regards to Equivalence Principle and
    gravity and G-forces, those being different, and,
    the aether _not_ existing, makes way for why
    the relativistic effects of _charged_ particles
    are as observed, while, GR is in _front_ of SR,
    with regards to mechanics.

    As said - merely an assertion.

    And in the meantime in the real world,
    forbidden by your bunch of idiots
    improper clocks keep measurig improper
    t'=t in improper seconds.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 11 16:46:26 2025
    W dniu 11.01.2025 o 15:05, Ross Finlayson pisze:
    On 01/10/2025 11:19 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
    W dniu 11.01.2025 o 06:39, Ross Finlayson pisze:
    On 01/10/2025 02:42 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
    W dniu 10.01.2025 o 21:08, Ross Finlayson pisze:


    Leon has an interesting section in his free pdf book "Apparent
    Relativity" on the laws of logic and relativity.

    In reality the principle of Relativity is merely
    a negative assertion "motion is relative not absolute"


    Right, The Shit is merely an assertion.
    Later on, of course, the term "confirm"
    was redefined to make it "confirmed".


    There _is_ space contraction and what's involved
    is "Zero-eth laws of motion" and _classical mechanics_
    and under-definition in _classical mechanics_, then
    that as with regards to Equivalence Principle and
    gravity and G-forces, those being different, and,
    the aether _not_ existing, makes way for why
    the relativistic effects of _charged_ particles
    are as observed, while, GR is in _front_ of SR,
    with regards to mechanics.

    As said - merely an assertion.

    And in the meantime in the real world,
    forbidden by your bunch of idiots
    improper clocks keep measurig improper
    t'=t in improper seconds.


    So, all you need to do is explain
    everything all together.

    Wanna explaination? You won't like
    it, but it's simple: sane people
    (which control clocks in the reality)
    don't give a damn to your beloved
    "let's explain" game.

    Physics is more than "Newton's System
    of the World"

    Well, fuck the physics. Clocks will
    keep indicating t'=t and ignoring your
    mad visions of what they should do,
    common sense has been warning.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sat Jan 11 12:43:45 2025
    The Starmaker wrote:

    LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

    On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 22:37:15 +0000, The Starmaker wrote:

    LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

    "'When the theories of relativity were experimentally confirmed, the red >> carpet was rolled out despite (or perhaps because of) the fact that
    almost no one understood them.'"

    - "On the empirical evidence of Special Relativity" by Antonio Leon free >> pdf=
    https://www.academia.edu/91707309/On_the_empirical_evidence_of_Special_Relativity?email_work_card=view-paper


    dats true, i don't undersatand nuthin in the theory of relativity.



    nutin at'all

    nutin.

    But you still believe, and that's what counts!

    Ding-an-Sich


    Einstein was inspired by Kant theory of relativity.


    Relativity is philosophy...and Einstein twisted Kant theory of
    relativity.


    Kants's is more true than' Einstien's.


    Ding-an-Sich

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+ding-an-sich





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    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sat Jan 11 13:51:16 2025
    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

    On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 22:37:15 +0000, The Starmaker wrote:

    LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

    "'When the theories of relativity were experimentally confirmed, the red
    carpet was rolled out despite (or perhaps because of) the fact that >> almost no one understood them.'"

    - "On the empirical evidence of Special Relativity" by Antonio Leon free
    pdf=
    https://www.academia.edu/91707309/On_the_empirical_evidence_of_Special_Relativity?email_work_card=view-paper


    dats true, i don't undersatand nuthin in the theory of relativity.



    nutin at'all

    nutin.

    But you still believe, and that's what counts!

    Ding-an-Sich


    Einstein was inspired by Kant theory of relativity.

    Relativity is philosophy...and Einstein twisted Kant theory of
    relativity.

    Kants's is more true than' Einstien's.

    Ding-an-Sich

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+ding-an-sich

    The fact is, in Einstein's day...physics and philosophy are the same
    thing.

    But everybody seems to have a different philosophy on things..

    whose philosophy is better? His or Hers?

    His:things look different depending your point of reference

    Hers:things look the same whatever your point of reference
    (Ding-an-Sich)




    In fact, if you look at Einstein's Desk on the day he died...

    you can see a Philosophy book...


    https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/1668464757861683200/photo/1


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyeTzX3agAEoeJU?format=jpg&name=4096x4096


    Einstein studied philosophy in school all the way till he died...


    he wanted to know The Mind Of God...



    the rest are details.



    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sat Jan 11 13:22:46 2025
    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

    On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 22:37:15 +0000, The Starmaker wrote:

    LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

    "'When the theories of relativity were experimentally confirmed, the red
    carpet was rolled out despite (or perhaps because of) the fact that
    almost no one understood them.'"

    - "On the empirical evidence of Special Relativity" by Antonio Leon free
    pdf=
    https://www.academia.edu/91707309/On_the_empirical_evidence_of_Special_Relativity?email_work_card=view-paper


    dats true, i don't undersatand nuthin in the theory of relativity.



    nutin at'all

    nutin.

    But you still believe, and that's what counts!

    Ding-an-Sich


    Einstein was inspired by Kant theory of relativity.

    Relativity is philosophy...and Einstein twisted Kant theory of
    relativity.

    Kants's is more true than' Einstien's.

    Ding-an-Sich

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+ding-an-sich


    The fact is, in Einstein's day...physics and philosophy are the same
    thing.


    But everybody seems to have a different philosophy on things..


    who's philosophy is better? His or Hers?



    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sat Jan 11 14:40:09 2025
    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

    On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 22:37:15 +0000, The Starmaker wrote:

    LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

    "'When the theories of relativity were experimentally confirmed, the red
    carpet was rolled out despite (or perhaps because of) the fact that
    almost no one understood them.'"

    - "On the empirical evidence of Special Relativity" by Antonio Leon free
    pdf=
    https://www.academia.edu/91707309/On_the_empirical_evidence_of_Special_Relativity?email_work_card=view-paper


    dats true, i don't undersatand nuthin in the theory of relativity.



    nutin at'all

    nutin.

    But you still believe, and that's what counts!

    Ding-an-Sich


    Einstein was inspired by Kant theory of relativity.

    Relativity is philosophy...and Einstein twisted Kant theory of relativity.

    Kants's is more true than' Einstien's.

    Ding-an-Sich

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+ding-an-sich

    The fact is, in Einstein's day...physics and philosophy are the same
    thing.

    But everybody seems to have a different philosophy on things..

    whose philosophy is better? His or Hers?

    His:things look different depending your point of reference

    Hers:things look the same whatever your point of reference
    (Ding-an-Sich)

    In fact, if you look at Einstein's Desk on the day he died...

    you can see a Philosophy book...

    https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/1668464757861683200/photo/1

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyeTzX3agAEoeJU?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

    Einstein studied philosophy in school all the way till he died...

    he wanted to know The Mind Of God...

    the rest are details.



    (Ding-an-Sich)

    You want to know what time it is now?

    it don't matter what your frame of reference is, everybody
    will ask you what time it is now...

    the time is..the present time now..

    the time is now...everywhere!

    don't matter if your watch
    is fast or slow..or you are there
    or here...

    it's now.

    The time now is...

    what time did you say it is now???

    okay, i was just wondering what time it is now.

    Now?
    Yeah, now..wat da fuck do you
    think i'm talking about...NOW!

    Now?


    You know wat i'm going to do you to you now?

    Now?






    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sat Jan 11 18:08:19 2025
    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

    On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 22:37:15 +0000, The Starmaker wrote:

    LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

    "'When the theories of relativity were experimentally confirmed, the red
    carpet was rolled out despite (or perhaps because of) the fact that
    almost no one understood them.'"

    - "On the empirical evidence of Special Relativity" by Antonio Leon free
    pdf=
    https://www.academia.edu/91707309/On_the_empirical_evidence_of_Special_Relativity?email_work_card=view-paper


    dats true, i don't undersatand nuthin in the theory of relativity.



    nutin at'all

    nutin.

    But you still believe, and that's what counts!

    Ding-an-Sich


    Einstein was inspired by Kant theory of relativity.

    Relativity is philosophy...and Einstein twisted Kant theory of relativity.

    Kants's is more true than' Einstien's.

    Ding-an-Sich

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+ding-an-sich

    The fact is, in Einstein's day...physics and philosophy are the same thing.

    But everybody seems to have a different philosophy on things..

    whose philosophy is better? His or Hers?

    His:things look different depending your point of reference

    Hers:things look the same whatever your point of reference
    (Ding-an-Sich)

    In fact, if you look at Einstein's Desk on the day he died...

    you can see a Philosophy book...

    https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/1668464757861683200/photo/1

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyeTzX3agAEoeJU?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

    Einstein studied philosophy in school all the way till he died...

    he wanted to know The Mind Of God...

    the rest are details.


    (Ding-an-Sich)

    You want to know what time it is now?

    it don't matter what your frame of reference is, everybody
    will ask you what time it is now...

    the time is..the present time now..

    the time is now...everywhere!

    don't matter if your watch
    is fast or slow..or you are there
    or here...

    it's now.

    The time now is...

    what time did you say it is now???

    okay, i was just wondering what time it is now.

    Now?
    Yeah, now..wat da fuck do you
    think i'm talking about...NOW!

    Now?

    You know wat i'm going to do you to you now?

    Now?

    The Fact is...when Albert Einstein uses the term..."present time", he is
    not
    refering to what time it is on the face of a clock now, he is refering
    to
    the missing Now time on the face of a clock.

    Einstein does not think of "present time" having minutes, hours or even
    days!

    Einstein's "present time" is in fact...a universal Now.


    No minutes, no hours, no days, just...NOW.


    Could be yesterday in Einstein't Now time...you cannot get him to narrow
    it down..cause
    he is slippery as a snake.

    And if you try to narrow him down he'll say something like..."I didn't
    say absolutly NOW!"

    "I didn't say this very minute!"


    he is slippery as a snake....








    --
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    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 12 18:40:23 2025
    W dniu 12.01.2025 o 17:14, Ross Finlayson pisze:
    On 01/11/2025 07:46 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
    W dniu 11.01.2025 o 15:05, Ross Finlayson pisze:
    On 01/10/2025 11:19 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
    W dniu 11.01.2025 o 06:39, Ross Finlayson pisze:
    On 01/10/2025 02:42 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
    W dniu 10.01.2025 o 21:08, Ross Finlayson pisze:


    Leon has an interesting section in his free pdf book "Apparent >>>>>>>> Relativity" on the laws of logic and relativity.

    In reality the principle of Relativity is merely
    a negative assertion "motion is relative not absolute"


    Right, The Shit is merely an assertion.
    Later on, of course, the term "confirm"
    was redefined to make it "confirmed".


    There _is_ space contraction and what's involved
    is "Zero-eth laws of motion" and _classical mechanics_
    and under-definition in _classical mechanics_, then
    that as with regards to Equivalence Principle and
    gravity and G-forces, those being different, and,
    the aether _not_ existing, makes way for why
    the relativistic effects of _charged_ particles
    are as observed, while, GR is in _front_ of SR,
    with regards to mechanics.

    As said - merely an assertion.

    And in the meantime in the real world,
    forbidden by your bunch of idiots
    improper clocks keep measurig improper
    t'=t in improper seconds.


    So, all you need to do is explain
    everything all together.

    Wanna explaination? You won't like
    it, but it's simple: sane people
    (which control clocks in the reality)
    don't give a damn to your beloved
    "let's explain" game.

    Physics is more than "Newton's System
    of the World"

    Well, fuck the physics. Clocks will
    keep indicating t'=t and ignoring your
    mad visions of what they should do,
    common sense has been  warning.




    No,

    Oh yes.
    because that's not explaining everything

    Too bad - for you and for your pretty little
    formula puzzles. Clocks are not toy gadgets
    invented for your fun, they're serious tools
    crucial for the organization of human society.
    Face it.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Mon Jan 13 19:48:01 2025
    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

    On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 22:37:15 +0000, The Starmaker wrote:

    LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

    "'When the theories of relativity were experimentally confirmed, the red
    carpet was rolled out despite (or perhaps because of) the fact that
    almost no one understood them.'"

    - "On the empirical evidence of Special Relativity" by Antonio Leon free
    pdf=
    https://www.academia.edu/91707309/On_the_empirical_evidence_of_Special_Relativity?email_work_card=view-paper


    dats true, i don't undersatand nuthin in the theory of relativity.



    nutin at'all

    nutin.

    But you still believe, and that's what counts!

    Ding-an-Sich


    Einstein was inspired by Kant theory of relativity.

    Relativity is philosophy...and Einstein twisted Kant theory of relativity.

    Kants's is more true than' Einstien's.

    Ding-an-Sich

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+ding-an-sich

    The fact is, in Einstein's day...physics and philosophy are the same thing.

    But everybody seems to have a different philosophy on things..

    whose philosophy is better? His or Hers?

    His:things look different depending your point of reference

    Hers:things look the same whatever your point of reference (Ding-an-Sich)

    In fact, if you look at Einstein's Desk on the day he died...

    you can see a Philosophy book...

    https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/1668464757861683200/photo/1

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyeTzX3agAEoeJU?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

    Einstein studied philosophy in school all the way till he died...

    he wanted to know The Mind Of God...

    the rest are details.


    (Ding-an-Sich)

    You want to know what time it is now?

    it don't matter what your frame of reference is, everybody
    will ask you what time it is now...

    the time is..the present time now..

    the time is now...everywhere!

    don't matter if your watch
    is fast or slow..or you are there
    or here...

    it's now.

    The time now is...

    what time did you say it is now???

    okay, i was just wondering what time it is now.

    Now?
    Yeah, now..wat da fuck do you
    think i'm talking about...NOW!

    Now?

    You know wat i'm going to do you to you now?

    Now?

    The Fact is...when Albert Einstein uses the term..."present time", he is
    not
    refering to what time it is on the face of a clock now, he is refering
    to
    the missing Now time on the face of a clock.

    Einstein does not think of "present time" having minutes, hours or even
    days!

    Einstein's "present time" is in fact...a universal Now.

    No minutes, no hours, no days, just...NOW.

    Could be yesterday in Einstein't Now time...you cannot get him to narrow
    it down..cause
    he is slippery as a snake.

    And if you try to narrow him down he'll say something like..."I didn't
    say absolutly NOW!"

    "I didn't say this very minute!"

    he is slippery as a snake....


    Hell, in Einstein's mind "present time" could also mean...this century.


    (which is still...now)


    If you study the definition of the word..."present"

    you will see 'hidden' within it's meaning...'the structure of
    relativity'.


    pres�ent
    /'preznt/
    adjective

    in a particular place.
    "a doctor must be present at the ringside"
    synonyms: in attendance, attending, here, there, near, nearby, at
    hand, close/near at hand, adjacent, available, ready, accounted for
    existing or occurring now.
    "she did not expect to find herself in her present situation"
    synonyms: current, present-day, existing, contemporary, immediate,
    instant


    noun
    the period of time now occurring.
    "they are happy and at peace, refusing to think beyond the present"
    synonyms: now, today, the present time, the here and now, this day and
    age, the present moment, the time being

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+present




    What is "the here and now"????



    What is the Here?




















    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Wed Jan 15 11:16:59 2025
    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

    On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 22:37:15 +0000, The Starmaker wrote:

    LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

    "'When the theories of relativity were experimentally confirmed, the red
    carpet was rolled out despite (or perhaps because of) the fact that
    almost no one understood them.'"

    - "On the empirical evidence of Special Relativity" by Antonio Leon free
    pdf=
    https://www.academia.edu/91707309/On_the_empirical_evidence_of_Special_Relativity?email_work_card=view-paper


    dats true, i don't undersatand nuthin in the theory of relativity.



    nutin at'all

    nutin.

    But you still believe, and that's what counts!

    Ding-an-Sich


    Einstein was inspired by Kant theory of relativity.

    Relativity is philosophy...and Einstein twisted Kant theory of relativity.

    Kants's is more true than' Einstien's.

    Ding-an-Sich

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+ding-an-sich

    The fact is, in Einstein's day...physics and philosophy are the same thing.

    But everybody seems to have a different philosophy on things..

    whose philosophy is better? His or Hers?

    His:things look different depending your point of reference

    Hers:things look the same whatever your point of reference (Ding-an-Sich)

    In fact, if you look at Einstein's Desk on the day he died...

    you can see a Philosophy book...

    https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/1668464757861683200/photo/1

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyeTzX3agAEoeJU?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

    Einstein studied philosophy in school all the way till he died...

    he wanted to know The Mind Of God...

    the rest are details.


    (Ding-an-Sich)

    You want to know what time it is now?

    it don't matter what your frame of reference is, everybody
    will ask you what time it is now...

    the time is..the present time now..

    the time is now...everywhere!

    don't matter if your watch
    is fast or slow..or you are there
    or here...

    it's now.

    The time now is...

    what time did you say it is now???

    okay, i was just wondering what time it is now.

    Now?
    Yeah, now..wat da fuck do you
    think i'm talking about...NOW!

    Now?

    You know wat i'm going to do you to you now?

    Now?

    The Fact is...when Albert Einstein uses the term..."present time", he is not
    refering to what time it is on the face of a clock now, he is refering
    to
    the missing Now time on the face of a clock.

    Einstein does not think of "present time" having minutes, hours or even days!

    Einstein's "present time" is in fact...a universal Now.

    No minutes, no hours, no days, just...NOW.

    Could be yesterday in Einstein't Now time...you cannot get him to narrow
    it down..cause
    he is slippery as a snake.

    And if you try to narrow him down he'll say something like..."I didn't
    say absolutly NOW!"

    "I didn't say this very minute!"

    he is slippery as a snake....


    Hell, in Einstein's mind "present time" could also mean...this century.

    (which is still...now)

    If you study the definition of the word..."present"

    you will see 'hidden' within it's meaning...'the structure of
    relativity'.

    pres�ent
    /'preznt/
    adjective

    in a particular place.
    "a doctor must be present at the ringside"
    synonyms: in attendance, attending, here, there, near, nearby, at
    hand, close/near at hand, adjacent, available, ready, accounted for
    existing or occurring now.
    "she did not expect to find herself in her present situation"
    synonyms: current, present-day, existing, contemporary, immediate, instant

    noun
    the period of time now occurring.
    "they are happy and at peace, refusing to think beyond the present"
    synonyms: now, today, the present time, the here and now, this day and
    age, the present moment, the time being

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+present

    What is "the here and now"????

    What is the Here?


    Where is Here? Is it over there??

    No, it's here.

    dats what I said, over there!

    No, it's over here.

    dat is what i said, over there!!!!

    Okay, where is Here?

    Here?

    Yes, Here!

    It's over here!

    Where, there?

    No, over here!

    Over there!

    No, right here!!!

    No, here IS here!

    Where?

    Over here!!


    No, it's over here!!!

    Come on, you cannot have two here's..







    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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