• A correct prediction

    From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 25 16:12:22 2024
    a) I said - X will happen. And then X happened
    b) I said - X will happen. And then Y happened. But
    I can explain! Y is incorrect!! And improper!!! and
    nonstandard!!!! And it doesn't count!!!!!!!!!! what
    should happen is definitely X!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I can PROVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Which of the above is describing the situation of
    "I predicted X correctly" - a or b? What do you think,
    poor brainwashed halfbrains?

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Tue Jun 25 16:28:11 2024
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    a) I said - X will happen. And then X happened
    b) I said - X will happen. And then Y happened. But
    I can explain! Y is incorrect!! And improper!!! and
    nonstandard!!!! And it doesn't count!!!!!!!!!! what
    should happen is definitely X!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I can PROVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Which of the above is describing the situation of
    "I predicted X correctly" - a or b? What do you think,
    poor brainwashed halfbrains?


    Poor eighth-brain Wozzie proves his stupidity. He
    doesn't define what either x or y mean. Maybe X = Y,
    in which case it's not an either/or situation: BOTH
    a AND b are true. Wotta dimwit!

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  • From Athel Cornish-Bowden@21:1/5 to gharnagel on Tue Jun 25 19:15:09 2024
    On 2024-06-25 16:28:11 +0000, gharnagel said:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    a) I said - X will happen. And then X happened
    b) I said - X will happen. And then Y happened. But
    I can explain! Y is incorrect!! And improper!!! and
    nonstandard!!!! And it doesn't count!!!!!!!!!! what
    should happen is definitely X!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I can PROVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Which of the above is describing the situation of
    "I predicted X correctly" - a or b? What do you think,
    poor brainwashed halfbrains?


    Poor eighth-brain Wozzie proves his stupidity. He
    doesn't define what either x or y mean. Maybe X = Y,
    in which case it's not an either/or situation: BOTH
    a AND b are true. Wotta dimwit!

    Let's try to put it in terms that Wozzie can understand:

    a) Wozzie said - Wozzie will be elected President of Poland. And then
    Wozzie was elected President of Poland

    b) (X ≠ Y) Wozzie said - Wozzie will be elected President of Poland.
    And then Andrzej Duda was elected President of Poland

    b') (X = Y) Wozzie said - Wozzie will be elected President of Poland.
    And then Wozzie was elected President of Poland


    --
    athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

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  • From Python@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 25 18:08:15 2024
    Le 25/06/2024 à 19:15, Athel Cornish-Bowden a écrit :
    On 2024-06-25 16:28:11 +0000, gharnagel said:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    a) I said - X will happen. And then X happened
    b) I said - X will happen. And then Y happened. But
    I can explain! Y is incorrect!! And improper!!! and
    nonstandard!!!! And it doesn't count!!!!!!!!!! what
    should happen is definitely X!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I can PROVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Which of the above is describing the situation of
    "I predicted X correctly" - a or b? What do you think,
    poor brainwashed halfbrains?


    Poor eighth-brain Wozzie proves his stupidity. He
    doesn't define what either x or y mean. Maybe X = Y,
    in which case it's not an either/or situation: BOTH
    a AND b are true. Wotta dimwit!

    Let's try to put it in terms that Wozzie can understand:

    :-) Good luck with that!

    a) Wozzie said - Wozzie will be elected President of Poland. And then
    Wozzie was elected President of Poland

    b) (X ≠ Y) Wozzie said - Wozzie will be elected President of Poland.
    And then Andrzej Duda was elected President of Poland

    b') (X = Y) Wozzie said - Wozzie will be elected President of Poland.
    And then Wozzie was elected President of Poland

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 25 19:50:08 2024
    W dniu 25.06.2024 o 19:15, Athel Cornish-Bowden pisze:
    On 2024-06-25 16:28:11 +0000, gharnagel said:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    a) I said - X will happen. And then X happened
    b) I said - X will happen. And then Y happened. But
    I can explain! Y is incorrect!! And improper!!! and
    nonstandard!!!! And it doesn't count!!!!!!!!!! what
    should happen is definitely X!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I can PROVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Which of the above is describing the situation of
    "I predicted X correctly" - a or b? What do you think,
    poor brainwashed halfbrains?


    Poor eighth-brain Wozzie proves his stupidity.  He
    doesn't define what either x or y mean.  Maybe X = Y,
    in which case it's not an either/or situation:  BOTH
    a AND b are true.  Wotta dimwit!

    Let's try to put it in terms that Wozzie can understand:

    Great, Corrie-Bowie, but how about answerring -
    Which of the above is describing the situation of
    "I predicted X correctly" - a or b?

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 25 20:21:51 2024
    W dniu 25.06.2024 o 20:08, Python pisze:
    Le 25/06/2024 à 19:15, Athel Cornish-Bowden a écrit :
    On 2024-06-25 16:28:11 +0000, gharnagel said:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    a) I said - X will happen. And then X happened
    b) I said - X will happen. And then Y happened. But
    I can explain! Y is incorrect!! And improper!!! and
    nonstandard!!!! And it doesn't count!!!!!!!!!! what
    should happen is definitely X!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I can PROVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Which of the above is describing the situation of
    "I predicted X correctly" - a or b? What do you think,
    poor brainwashed halfbrains?


    Poor eighth-brain Wozzie proves his stupidity.  He
    doesn't define what either x or y mean.  Maybe X = Y,
    in which case it's not an either/or situation:  BOTH
    a AND b are true.  Wotta dimwit!

    Let's try to put it in terms that Wozzie can understand:

    :-) Good luck with that!

    Oh, stinker Python is opening its muzzle again,
    and trying again to pretend he knows something.

    And again he can't answer a simplw question.
    Of course.

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  • From Python@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 25 19:34:40 2024
    Le 25/06/2024 à 20:21, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 25.06.2024 o 20:08, Python pisze:
    Le 25/06/2024 à 19:15, Athel Cornish-Bowden a écrit :
    On 2024-06-25 16:28:11 +0000, gharnagel said:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    a) I said - X will happen. And then X happened
    b) I said - X will happen. And then Y happened. But
    I can explain! Y is incorrect!! And improper!!! and
    nonstandard!!!! And it doesn't count!!!!!!!!!! what
    should happen is definitely X!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I can PROVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Which of the above is describing the situation of
    "I predicted X correctly" - a or b? What do you think,
    poor brainwashed halfbrains?


    Poor eighth-brain Wozzie proves his stupidity.  He
    doesn't define what either x or y mean.  Maybe X = Y,
    in which case it's not an either/or situation:  BOTH
    a AND b are true.  Wotta dimwit!

    Let's try to put it in terms that Wozzie can understand:

    :-) Good luck with that!

    Oh, stinker Python is opening its muzzle again,
    and trying again to pretend he knows something.

    And again he can't answer a simplw question.
    Of course.

    Or coursw.

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Wed Jun 26 13:08:25 2024
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 25.06.2024 o 20:08, Python pisze:

    Le 25/06/2024 à 19:15, Athel Cornish-Bowden a écrit :

    Let's try to put it in terms that Wozzie can understand:

    :-) Good luck with that!

    Oh, stinker Python is opening its muzzle again,
    and trying again to pretend he knows something.

    He knows much more than Wozzie, the nano-dynamite brain.

    And again he can't answer a simplw question.
    Of course.

    Wozzie's simpleton mind can't fathom that X and Y need
    not have any relation to each other since he didn't
    specify what X and Y were.

    After all, he didn't specify that b was Y and not X, etc.

    X might be "A bird flew in the window" and Y might be "A
    cockroach ate my cheese." Both may be true, both may be
    false, or X may be true while B false or B may be true
    while A false. Or they may be indeterminate because the
    events were neither observed nor recorded.

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  • From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 26 14:11:17 2024
    Le 26/06/2024 à 15:08, [email protected] (gharnagel) a écrit :

    Wozzie's simpleton mind can't fathom that X and Y need
    not have any relation to each other since he didn't
    specify what X and Y were.

    After all, he didn't specify that b was Y and not X, etc.

    X might be "A bird flew in the window" and Y might be "A
    cockroach ate my cheese." Both may be true, both may be
    false, or X may be true while B false or B may be true
    while A false. Or they may be indeterminate because the
    events were neither observed nor recorded.

    How?
    Python is one of the top posters on science forums?
    And I didn't know it?
    I thought he was a buffoon, a puppet.
    But he is unable to understand what an apparent speed is in physics, and
    why such a speed can take on all values ​​from zero to infinity as it approaches.
    He's a puppet, a buffoon.
    You must probably be wrong.

    R.H.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 26 16:41:28 2024
    W dniu 26.06.2024 o 16:11, Richard Hachel pisze:
    Le 26/06/2024 à 15:08, [email protected] (gharnagel) a écrit :

    Wozzie's simpleton mind can't fathom that X and Y need
    not have any relation to each other since he didn't
    specify what X and Y were.

    After all, he didn't specify that b was Y and not X, etc.

    X might be "A bird flew in the window" and Y might be "A
    cockroach ate my cheese."  Both may be true, both may be
    false, or X may be true while B false or B may be true
    while A false.  Or they may be indeterminate because the
    events were neither observed nor recorded.

    How?
    Python is one of the top posters on science forums?

    Harrie is an idiot; he can claim that
    Nature Herself is speaking to him and
    his idiot gurus, or that GPS clocks
    are not real, or that poor stinker
    Python is one of the top posters.
    Who cares.

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Wed Jun 26 16:27:57 2024
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 26.06.2024 o 16:11, Richard Hachel pisze:

    Le 26/06/2024 à 15:08, [email protected] (gharnagel) a écrit :

    Wozzie's simpleton mind can't fathom that X and Y need
    not have any relation to each other since he didn't
    specify what X and Y were.

    After all, he didn't specify that b was Y and not X, etc.

    X might be "A bird flew in the window" and Y might be "A
    cockroach ate my cheese."  Both may be true, both may be
    false, or X may be true while B false or B may be true
    while A false.  Or they may be indeterminate because the
    events were neither observed nor recorded.

    How?

    How not observed? Do YOU observe a bird flying in the bedroom
    window when everyone is in the parlor?

    Python is one of the top posters on science forums?
    And I didn't know it?
    I thought he was a buffoon, a puppet.

    You thought wrong. You were projecting again.

    But he is unable to understand what an apparent speed is
    in physics, and why such a speed can take on all values ​​from
    zero to infinity as it approaches.

    "Apparent speed" is not real speed. It's an artifact of the
    fact that the speed of light is not infinite and has little
    use in physics except to explain why the speed of light isn't
    exceeded in certain cases of observation. Making it a central
    topic in a relativity discussion seems lame to me.

    He's a puppet, a buffoon.

    The Good Doctor is hallucinating again.

    Harrie is an idiot;

    And now Wozzie-fool is projecting again.

    he can claim that Nature Herself is speaking to him and
    his idiot gurus,

    Of course nature speaks to us. If we put our hand in a fire,
    nature speaks to us in the language of pain. When we do
    something good to someone, nature speaks to us in the language
    of joy.

    “Joy is what we all seek. It is an energy more powerful than food.
    But without love we can not feel true joy.” -- Akiane Kramarik

    Perhaps Wozzie is too busy disrespecting everyone to hear such
    messages from nature.

    or that GPS clocks are not real,

    Dishonest Wozzie-fool intentionally "misunderstands in an attempt
    to confuse issues. Good human beings don't do that.

    or that poor stinker Python is one of the top posters.
    Who cares.

    And no one cares about Wozzie's deranged opinions.

    “All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others.”
    -- Douglas Adams

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 26 19:55:42 2024
    W dniu 26.06.2024 o 18:27, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 26.06.2024 o 16:11, Richard Hachel pisze:

    Le 26/06/2024 à 15:08, [email protected] (gharnagel) a écrit :

    Wozzie's simpleton mind can't fathom that X and Y need
    not have any relation to each other since he didn't
    specify what X and Y were.

    After all, he didn't specify that b was Y and not X, etc.

    X might be "A bird flew in the window" and Y might be "A
    cockroach ate my cheese."  Both may be true, both may be
    false, or X may be true while B false or B may be true
    while A false.  Or they may be indeterminate because the
    events were neither observed nor recorded.

    How?

    How not observed?  Do YOU observe a bird flying in the bedroom
    window when everyone is in the parlor?

    Python is one of the top posters on science forums?
    And I didn't know it?
    I thought he was a buffoon, a puppet.

    You thought wrong.  You were projecting again.

    But he is unable to understand what an apparent speed is
    in physics, and why such a speed can take on all values ​​from
    zero to infinity as it approaches.

    "Apparent speed" is not real speed.  It's an artifact of the
    fact that the speed of light is not infinite and has little
    use in physics except to explain why the speed of light isn't
    exceeded in certain cases of observation.  Making it a central
    topic in a relativity discussion seems lame to me.

    He's a puppet, a buffoon.

    The Good Doctor is hallucinating again.

    Harrie is an idiot;

    And now Wozzie-fool is projecting again.

    he can claim that Nature Herself is speaking to him and
    his idiot gurus,

    Of course nature speaks to us.

    Of course it doesn't. As an idiot
    mystician you hear voices.



    Dishonest Wozzie-fool intentionally "misunderstands in an attempt
    to confuse issues.  Good human beings don't do that.

    See, trash - I've proven the
    moronic mumble of your idiot guru to be
    not even consistent and you can do nothing
    about it apart of barking, insulting and
    slandering. But you will do what you can
    for the glory of your moronic church - that's
    what it's training its doggies for, after all.

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 26 18:31:09 2024
    Maciej Wozniak lied:

    See, trash - I've proven the
    moronic mumble of your idiot guru to be
    not even consistent and you can do nothing
    about it apart of barking, insulting and
    slandering. But you will do what you can
    for the glory of your moronic church - that's
    what it's training its doggies for, after all.

    Says the barking, insulting, slandering liar.

    See, Trash-talker, your insane baloney has been
    soundly refuted, but you're too stupid to
    realize it.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 26 21:00:53 2024
    W dniu 26.06.2024 o 20:31, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak lied:

    See, trash - I've proven the
    moronic mumble of your idiot guru to be
    not even consistent and you can do nothing
    about it apart of barking, insulting and
    slandering. But you  will do what you can
    for the glory of your moronic church - that's
    what it's training  its doggies for, after all.

    Says the barking, insulting, slandering liar.

    See, Trash-talker, your insane baloney has been
    soundly refuted, but you're too stupid to
    realize it.


    See, trash - I've proven the
    moronic mumble of your idiot guru to be
    not even consistent and you can do nothing
    about it apart of barking, insulting and
    slandering. But you will do what you can
    for the glory of your moronic church - that's
    what it's training its doggies for, after all.

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 26 19:11:07 2024
    Maciej Wozniak Lied:

    See, trash - I've proven the
    moronic mumble of your idiot guru to be
    not even consistent and you can do nothing
    about it apart of barking, insulting and
    slandering. But you will do what you can
    for the glory of your moronic church - that's
    what it's training its doggies for, after all.

    Says the barking, insulting, slandering liar.

    See, Trash-talker, your insane baloney has been
    soundly refuted, but you're too stupid to
    realize it.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 26 22:27:13 2024
    W dniu 26.06.2024 o 21:11, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak Lied:

    See, trash - I've proven the
    moronic mumble of your idiot guru to be
    not even consistent and you can do nothing
    about it apart of barking, insulting and
    slandering. But you  will do what you can
    for the glory of your moronic church - that's
    what it's training  its doggies for, after all.

    Says the barking, insulting, slandering liar.

    See, Trash-talker, your insane baloney has been
    soundly refuted

    Nature Herself has told you that, sure.
    See, trash - I've proven the
    moronic mumble of your idiot guru to be
    not even consistent and you can do nothing
    about it apart of barking, insulting and
    slandering. But you will do what you can
    for the glory of your moronic church - that's
    what it's training its doggies for, after all.

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Wed Jun 26 23:04:21 2024
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 26.06.2024 o 21:11, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak Lied:

    See, trash - I've proven the
    moronic mumble of your idiot guru to be
    not even consistent and you can do nothing
    about it apart of barking, insulting and
    slandering. But you  will do what you can
    for the glory of your moronic church - that's
    what it's training  its doggies for, after all.

    Says the barking, insulting, slandering liar.

    See, Trash-talker, your insane baloney has been
    soundly refuted

    Nature Herself has told you that, sure.

    Wozzie is jealous because he can't hear truth.

    "They are creatures who can’t hear the music of the spheres."
    -- Albert Einstein

    [Lying baloney deleted]

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 27 06:16:44 2024
    W dniu 27.06.2024 o 01:04, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 26.06.2024 o 21:11, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak Lied:

    See, trash - I've proven the
    moronic mumble of your idiot guru to be
    not even consistent and you can do nothing
    about it apart of barking, insulting and
    slandering. But you  will do what you can
    for the glory of your moronic church - that's
    what it's training  its doggies for, after all.

    Says the barking, insulting, slandering liar.

    See, Trash-talker, your insane baloney has been
    soundly refuted

    Nature Herself has told you that, sure.

    Wozzie is jealous because he can't hear truth.

    "They are creatures who can’t hear the music of the spheres."
    -- Albert Einstein

    "Music of the spheres"? Yet another bullshit
    to mark the inconsistent mumble of your idiot
    guru as dictated by some Heavenly Force.
    Only idiots like you can buy it, Harrie.

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