• Re: What clocks indicate

    From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to J. J. Lodder on Thu May 9 13:07:30 2024
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    J. J. Lodder wrote:

    The Starmaker <[email protected]> wrote:

    J. J. Lodder wrote:

    gharnagel <[email protected]> wrote:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    is a matter of ergonomy. Not a mater
    of some delusional "Law of Nature" invented
    by an insane crazie.
    You can gedanke/imagine "perfect", "proper",
    "correct" clocks perfectly obedient to you.
    But you can't enforce your madness on real
    clocks. Anyone can check GPS, sorry, poor
    halfbrains, you're - simply - not important
    enough.

    The first satellite went up with an accurate clock.
    It didn't work right. A switch was thrown to change
    the timebase to agree with the "insane crazy" -- and
    lo and behold, it worked.

    "If it's stupid but it works, it isn't stupid."
    -- Naval Ops Manual

    Wozzie keeps repeating the same misinformation, hoping
    for emotional support for his derangement.

    "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and
    expecting different results." -- Albert Einstein

    Do you have a real source for Einstein ever having said
    anything like this?
    Beyond the internet forever repeating itself?

    Jan
    (doubting it)


    He concludes his letter, ironically: "I am now completely ripe for the insane
    asylum‰
    https://einsteinpapers.press.princeton.edu/vol13-doc/38

    Certainly, but this is not the phrase wanted.
    I Had the opportunity to look it up in the meantime.
    It is in the 'ultimate quotable Einstein',
    in the 'attributed to' part.
    This is an error, it should be in the 'not by Einstein' section.

    ======
    *Insanity is doing the same thing over and over
    again and expecting different results.
    By Rita Mae Brown, in Sudden Death (New York: Bantam,
    1983), 68. Thanks to Barbara Wolff for the source.
    =====
    So an invention from well after Einstein's death,
    by someone without any connection to either physics or Einstein. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rita_Mae_Brown>

    And looking that up, in that book,
    I find that there isn't any real Einstein in the book.
    The phrase is there, in the dialogue,
    but it is said by a character in the book who is nicknamed 'Einstein', presumably because she is supposed to have brains.

    So it is all bunk, and it has nothing to do with the real Einstein,

    Jan


    But it is not what you wrote. You wrote:

    "Do you have a real source for Einstein ever having said
    anything like this?
    Beyond the internet forever repeating itself?"


    ever having said
    anything like this?

    anything like this?


    "anything"

    in any degree; to any extent; in any way; at all:
    any thing whatever; something, no matter what: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/anything



    You didn't say "exactly that", you said..."anything".



    I posted anything.


    I don't know what the 'year 1983' has to do with Einstein.


    Didn't he died before the year 1983???

    Why are yous people looking for quotes AFTER he died??? dats dumb.














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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to J. J. Lodder on Fri May 10 10:34:02 2024
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    J. J. Lodder wrote:

    The Starmaker <[email protected]> wrote:
    [recovered from the Bozo Bin, for once]
    If you want me to reply you shouldn't crosspost.

    J. J. Lodder wrote:

    The Starmaker <[email protected]> wrote:

    J. J. Lodder wrote:

    gharnagel <[email protected]> wrote:
    [-]
    "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and
    expecting different results." -- Albert Einstein

    Do you have a real source for Einstein ever having said
    anything like this?
    Beyond the internet forever repeating itself?

    Jan
    (doubting it)


    He concludes his letter, ironically: "I am now completely ripe for the ins
    ane
    asylumâ•°
    https://einsteinpapers.press.princeton.edu/vol13-doc/38

    Certainly, but this is not the phrase wanted.
    I Had the opportunity to look it up in the meantime.
    It is in the 'ultimate quotable Einstein',
    in the 'attributed to' part.
    This is an error, it should be in the 'not by Einstein' section.

    ======
    *Insanity is doing the same thing over and over
    again and expecting different results.
    By Rita Mae Brown, in Sudden Death (New York: Bantam,
    1983), 68. Thanks to Barbara Wolff for the source.
    =====
    So an invention from well after Einstein's death,
    by someone without any connection to either physics or Einstein. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rita_Mae_Brown>

    And looking that up, in that book,
    I find that there isn't any real Einstein in the book.
    The phrase is there, in the dialogue,
    but it is said by a character in the book who is nicknamed 'Einstein', presumably because she is supposed to have brains.

    So it is all bunk, and it has nothing to do with the real Einstein,

    Jan


    But it is not what you wrote. You wrote:

    "Do you have a real source for Einstein ever having said
    anything like this?
    Beyond the internet forever repeating itself?"


    ever having said
    anything like this?

    anything like this?


    "anything"

    in any degree; to any extent; in any way; at all:
    any thing whatever; something, no matter what: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/anything



    You didn't say "exactly that", you said..."anything".



    I posted anything.


    I don't know what the 'year 1983' has to do with Einstein.


    Didn't he died before the year 1983???

    Why are yous people looking for quotes AFTER he died??? dats dumb.

    Pfft. Do read.
    The quotation is correct, the source I found for it is correct,
    and has nothing at all to do with Albert Einstein.

    It is a mis-attribution,

    Jan


    "mis-attribution"????


    You sure it is not a 1983..plagaraism?







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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Fri May 10 15:49:05 2024
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    The Starmaker wrote:

    J. J. Lodder wrote:

    The Starmaker <[email protected]> wrote:
    [recovered from the Bozo Bin, for once]
    If you want me to reply you shouldn't crosspost.

    J. J. Lodder wrote:

    The Starmaker <[email protected]> wrote:

    J. J. Lodder wrote:

    gharnagel <[email protected]> wrote:
    [-]
    "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and
    expecting different results." -- Albert Einstein

    Do you have a real source for Einstein ever having said
    anything like this?
    Beyond the internet forever repeating itself?

    Jan
    (doubting it)


    He concludes his letter, ironically: "I am now completely ripe for the ins
    ane
    asylumâ•°
    https://einsteinpapers.press.princeton.edu/vol13-doc/38

    Certainly, but this is not the phrase wanted.
    I Had the opportunity to look it up in the meantime.
    It is in the 'ultimate quotable Einstein',
    in the 'attributed to' part.
    This is an error, it should be in the 'not by Einstein' section.

    ======
    *Insanity is doing the same thing over and over
    again and expecting different results.
    By Rita Mae Brown, in Sudden Death (New York: Bantam,
    1983), 68. Thanks to Barbara Wolff for the source.
    =====
    So an invention from well after Einstein's death,
    by someone without any connection to either physics or Einstein. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rita_Mae_Brown>

    And looking that up, in that book,
    I find that there isn't any real Einstein in the book.
    The phrase is there, in the dialogue,
    but it is said by a character in the book who is nicknamed 'Einstein', presumably because she is supposed to have brains.

    So it is all bunk, and it has nothing to do with the real Einstein,

    Jan


    But it is not what you wrote. You wrote:

    "Do you have a real source for Einstein ever having said
    anything like this?
    Beyond the internet forever repeating itself?"


    ever having said
    anything like this?

    anything like this?


    "anything"

    in any degree; to any extent; in any way; at all:
    any thing whatever; something, no matter what: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/anything



    You didn't say "exactly that", you said..."anything".



    I posted anything.


    I don't know what the 'year 1983' has to do with Einstein.


    Didn't he died before the year 1983???

    Why are yous people looking for quotes AFTER he died??? dats dumb.

    Pfft. Do read.
    The quotation is correct, the source I found for it is correct,
    and has nothing at all to do with Albert Einstein.

    It is a mis-attribution,

    Jan

    "mis-attribution"????

    You sure it is not a 1983..plagaraism?


    J. J. Lodder lives in a world where everytime Albert Einstein utters a word someone behind him is writing it down!






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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Fri May 10 19:43:17 2024
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    J. J. Lodder wrote:

    The Starmaker <[email protected]> wrote:
    [recovered from the Bozo Bin, for once]
    If you want me to reply you shouldn't crosspost.

    J. J. Lodder wrote:

    The Starmaker <[email protected]> wrote:

    J. J. Lodder wrote:

    gharnagel <[email protected]> wrote:
    [-]
    "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." -- Albert Einstein

    Do you have a real source for Einstein ever having said
    anything like this?
    Beyond the internet forever repeating itself?

    Jan
    (doubting it)


    He concludes his letter, ironically: "I am now completely ripe for the ins
    ane
    asylumâ•°
    https://einsteinpapers.press.princeton.edu/vol13-doc/38

    Certainly, but this is not the phrase wanted.
    I Had the opportunity to look it up in the meantime.
    It is in the 'ultimate quotable Einstein',
    in the 'attributed to' part.
    This is an error, it should be in the 'not by Einstein' section.

    ======
    *Insanity is doing the same thing over and over
    again and expecting different results.
    By Rita Mae Brown, in Sudden Death (New York: Bantam,
    1983), 68. Thanks to Barbara Wolff for the source.
    =====
    So an invention from well after Einstein's death,
    by someone without any connection to either physics or Einstein. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rita_Mae_Brown>

    And looking that up, in that book,
    I find that there isn't any real Einstein in the book.
    The phrase is there, in the dialogue,
    but it is said by a character in the book who is nicknamed 'Einstein',
    presumably because she is supposed to have brains.

    So it is all bunk, and it has nothing to do with the real Einstein,

    Jan


    But it is not what you wrote. You wrote:

    "Do you have a real source for Einstein ever having said
    anything like this?
    Beyond the internet forever repeating itself?"


    ever having said
    anything like this?

    anything like this?


    "anything"

    in any degree; to any extent; in any way; at all:
    any thing whatever; something, no matter what: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/anything



    You didn't say "exactly that", you said..."anything".



    I posted anything.


    I don't know what the 'year 1983' has to do with Einstein.


    Didn't he died before the year 1983???

    Why are yous people looking for quotes AFTER he died??? dats dumb.

    Pfft. Do read.
    The quotation is correct, the source I found for it is correct,
    and has nothing at all to do with Albert Einstein.

    It is a mis-attribution,

    Jan

    "mis-attribution"????

    You sure it is not a 1983..plagaraism?

    J. J. Lodder lives in a world where everytime Albert Einstein utters a word someone behind him is writing it down!

    Insanity is expecting someone is always behind Albert Einstein
    writing and recording every word he utters.

    And if it is not written or recorded, then thinking Albert Einstein
    didn't utter anything else. That's insane asylum!






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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to J. J. Lodder on Sat May 11 13:13:57 2024
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    J. J. Lodder wrote:

    gharnagel <[email protected]> wrote:

    J. J. Lodder wrote:

    The Starmaker <[email protected]> wrote:

    But it is not what you wrote. You wrote:

    "Do you have a real source for Einstein ever having said
    anything like this?
    Beyond the internet forever repeating itself?"

    Pfft. Do read.
    The quotation is correct, the source I found for it is correct,
    and has nothing at all to do with Albert Einstein.

    It is a mis-attribution,

    Jan

    Well, apparently it does have something to do with Einstein, a
    character in a book referred to as Einstein. But thanks for the correction. I'll put quotes around "Einstein" when I use that
    quote in the future :-)

    It seems that in some circles 'Einstein' is used
    jocularly as a nickname for a supposedly smart person.
    I have also seen 'Sheldon' used in a similar way.
    (after the hero of the 'Big Bang Theory')

    Ascribing anything said by such a person to the real historical Einstein
    is not the right way of going about it.
    Even 'ascribed to Einstein' is just plain wrong,

    Jan


    Ascribing??? Even 'ascribed to Einstein' is just plain wrong,????


    Ascribing *means* to attribute to, which is exactly how it is refered to in

    The Ultimate Quotable Einstein
    By Albert Einstein https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+ultimate+quotable+einstein&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiOvsDtsYaGAxVuRjABHXJEAoIQ6AF6BAgIEAE#v=onepage&q=the%20ultimate%20quotable%20einstein&f=false

    and I like to add you comment "...is just plain wrong,"


    is strange since...

    it is Published and Copyrighted by Prinston University Press and also copyrighted by
    The Hebrew University of Jerusalem.

    Are you saying The Hebrew University of Jerusalem is just plain wrong????


    The Ultimate Quotable Einstein
    *By* Albert Einstein



    What if you are just plain wrong?


    You are saying a bunch of Kikes in Jerusalem are wrong!


    https://books.google.com/books?id=A32-DwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+ultimate+quotable+einstein&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiOvsDtsYaGAxVuRjABHXJEAoIQ6AF6BAgIEAE#v=onepage&q=the%20ultimate%20quotable%20einstein&f=false



    Oh..but excuse, i forgot...you're from France...they don't like kikes there.

    either..

    anywhere really.


    drave them to the river as God intended them to be..






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