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  • Scientific American, Sept2023, "Dinosaur Giants" "How the biggest anima

    From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 23 01:27:23 2023
    AP's American Scientific "Gross Logic Dufuses" "How scientists never learn logic and such a simple principle as Occam's Razor of Science"

    I am critiquing SA, Sept2023 article by Michael D. D'Emic.

    Beautiful pictures of dinosaurs. If only SA can get a writer with a logical brain.

    The Occam's principle is easy to learn, easy to understand. And frighteningly, the requirements in science are such that professors never need to take Logic to think straight nor think clearly. And the effect of this lousy education, are articles like
    this.

    So Occam's razor is that water animals can grow enormous size because water bouys their weight.

    The whale in fact is the largest animal to ever live.

    So Occam's Razor Principle is that -- the Easiest Explanation is likely the true explanation.

    These huge dinosaurs lived on the edge of the oceans, rarely ever walked on land, and probably could not walk on land but had to stay submerged in water to balance the weight.

    They had such long necks because their lower torso was walking on sea floor near the coastline of continents.

    It is wrong to call them land animals. These huge dinosaurs were aquatic.

    AP, wishing that Universities require all scientists to be-- take at least a year of formal Logic to think straight and think clearly.

    AP

    Scientific American, Sept2023, "Dinosaur Giants" "How the biggest animals ever to walk Earth got so huge"

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 23 01:51:30 2023
    Now my memory is fading here on whale evolution. Some recall as to whether a "deer like animal" or was it a pig like animal that went to the oceans to live and evolve into a whale.

    But perhaps, better yet, perhaps some of these huge dinosaurs that were already aquatic evolved into the Whale.

    Of course the Cretaceous meteor killed many of the dinosaurs, but perhaps some of the smaller dinosaurs that lived in the ocean shoreline with land, for much of Earth in Cretaceous was shallow seas, that these smaller dinosaurs evolved into the whale.
    They certainly would have a head start over a deer or pig that lived solely on land.

    And we must not forget that the alligator and crocodile survived the Meteor bolide, so it is easy to think one of these dinosaurs to become the whale survived.

    Looking at the fossil record of early whales goes back to 50 million years and the bolide goes back to 66 million years ago. So it is rather easy to see that whales more than likely evolved directly from these aquatic dinosaurs rather than have deer like
    or pig like land animals going to the ocean.

    AP

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 23 09:53:27 2023
    The neck length alone on these huge dinosaurs should have informed the silly author of "Dinosaur Giants" that these were aquatic animals, not land animals.

    Besides, there were no trees or vegetation on land for such a neck to struggle to reach. Like saying the giraffe evolved in pure grassland where why on Earth would you even need such a enormous neck if all the food is grass high.

    So, really, so many of these science magazines, especially New Scientists, what they need is to send back to school all their authors and pick up on 1st year logic then 2nd year logic at University level.

    AP

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 24 00:17:27 2023
    --- quoting New Scientist ---
    Why ancient deer returned to the sea and became whales

    19 March 2018
    New Scientist
    Ambulocetus, an early whale
    Christian Darkin / Science Photo Library
    Animals first evolved to live exclusively on land about 370 million years ago – but on dozens of occasions since then land animals have gone back to exploiting the seas. That might be because the shallow seas around continents are so full of food that
    they proved an irresistible lure.

    Some of the most spectacular species now living in the sea have land-living ancestors. Whales are descended from animals similar to deer, while walruses and seals evolved from animals a bit like modern otters.
    --- end quoting ---

    Checking into their toes or hooves. And the whales elimination of that.

    AP

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to Archimedes Plutonium on Thu Aug 24 07:07:55 2023
    On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 2:17:31 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    --- quoting New Scientist ---
    Why ancient deer returned to the sea and became whales

    19 March 2018
    New Scientist
    Ambulocetus, an early whale

    Animals first evolved to live exclusively on land about 370 million years ago – but on dozens of occasions since then land animals have gone back to exploiting the seas. That might be because the shallow seas around continents are so full of food
    that they proved an irresistible lure.

    Some of the most spectacular species now living in the sea have land-living ancestors. Whales are descended from animals similar to deer, while walruses and seals evolved from animals a bit like modern otters.
    --- end quoting ---

    Checking into their toes or hooves. And the whales elimination of that.


    Now the Whales are split into two groups, the filter feeders and the non filter feeders. And I bet the sauropods are split into at least two groups, so that whales directly evolved from sauropods, and not the stupendous silly idea of looking for forest
    animals of deer like creatures to be the ancestor of whales.

    Now the otters, walruses, and seals, also, most likely evolved from sauropods, although a meat eating sauropod, not as huge as the plant eating sauropods. A creature that likely was a small sauropod that hugged the coastline.

    So it looks as though I am going to rewrite the evolutionary history of whale and other animals story.

    AP

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