• Re: "DH" dark holes instead of "BH" black holes. A return from mathemat

    From Enes Richard@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 22 05:00:42 2023
    środa, 12 lipca 2023 o 12:57:04 UTC+2 Enes Richard napisał(a):
    Black holes are a useless mathematical abstraction in terms of occurring singularities (infinite density and gravity), where physics breaks down and it is impossible to describe phenomena in singularities.

    Dark holes are a modification of black holes by removing the singularity and introducing a maximum natural density (currently electron density).

    Following observations, dark holes can occur in complex structures where, under the right circumstances, they can produce a simple mass from the constituents of an electron.

    NEW FORMULA
    for electron dark hole radius (spherical):

    Redh = Re x (Mdh/Me)^(1/3) where:

    Redh - the radius of an electron-dense spherical dark hole,
    Re - electron radius (<10^-22 m),
    Mdh - dark hole mass,
    Me - mass of the electron.

    For the Sun compressed to electron density:
    Redh = 1.3x10^-2 [m] = 1.3 cm (max.)

    The Schwarzschild radius for the Sun is about 3km...

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to Enes Richard on Tue Aug 22 13:59:28 2023
    Imp waffling on, when he/it cannot even admit slant cut of cone is Oval not ellipse, and far too stupid to ask is muon or 0.5MeV particle the true electron of atoms. Stupidity seeks to surround itself in more stupidity.

    On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 5:57:04 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    Black holes are a useless mathematical abstraction in terms of occurring singularities (infinite density and gravity), where physics breaks down and it is impossible to describe phenomena in singularities.

    Dark holes are a modification of black holes by removing the singularity and introducing a maximum natural density (currently electron density).

    Following observations, dark holes can occur in complex structures where, under the right circumstances, they can produce a simple mass from the constituents of an electron.


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  • From Enes Richard@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 23 00:15:39 2023
    wtorek, 22 sierpnia 2023 o 22:59:32 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    Imp waffling on, when he/it cannot even admit slant cut of cone is Oval not ellipse, and far too stupid to ask is muon or 0.5MeV particle the true electron of atoms. Stupidity seeks to surround itself in more stupidity.
    On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 5:57:04 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    Black holes are a useless mathematical abstraction in terms of occurring singularities (infinite density and gravity), where physics breaks down and it is impossible to describe phenomena in singularities.

    Dark holes are a modification of black holes by removing the singularity and introducing a maximum natural density (currently electron density).

    Following observations, dark holes can occur in complex structures where, under the right circumstances, they can produce a simple mass from the constituents of an electron.


    This is a thread about dark holes (DH) in the physics forum, try to comment substantively.

    Undermine the radius formula for DH. Note that if we substitute the mass of the electron
    for the mass of the dark hole, the radius DH will be equal to the radius of the electron ( <10^-22 m).

    Calculate the Schwarzschild radius of the electron and compare the different results
    of experiments determining the size of the electron...

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to Enes Richard on Wed Aug 23 00:25:31 2023
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 2:15:44 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    wtorek, 22 sierpnia 2023 o 22:59:32 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    Imp waffling on, when he/it cannot even admit slant cut of cone is Oval not ellipse, and far too stupid to ask is muon or 0.5MeV particle the true electron of atoms. Stupidity seeks to surround itself in more stupidity.
    On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 5:57:04 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    Black holes are a useless mathematical abstraction in terms of occurring singularities (infinite density and gravity), where physics breaks down and it is impossible to describe phenomena in singularities.

    Dark holes are a modification of black holes by removing the singularity and introducing a maximum natural density (currently electron density).

    Following observations, dark holes can occur in complex structures where, under the right circumstances, they can produce a simple mass from the constituents of an electron.

    This is a thread about dark holes (DH) in the physics forum, try to comment substantively.

    This is a thread about whether Loch Ness monster has green eyes or pink eyes.

    Undermine the radius formula for DH. Note that if we substitute the mass of the electron
    for the mass of the dark hole, the radius DH will be equal to the radius of the electron ( <10^-22 m).


    When a fool cannot tell the true electron of Atoms is the muon inside a proton torus of 840MeV, yet that fool waxes on about bullshit of holes in space where even the Pauli Exclusion Principle deny. A fool never fixes foundations but jumps onto the
    extreme outer fringe limbs.


    Calculate the Schwarzschild radius of the electron and compare the different results
    of experiments determining the size of the electron...

    Calculate if their is any intelligence in your cranium...

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  • From Enes Richard@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 23 00:48:27 2023
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 09:25:36 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 2:15:44 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    wtorek, 22 sierpnia 2023 o 22:59:32 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    Imp waffling on, when he/it cannot even admit slant cut of cone is Oval not ellipse, and far too stupid to ask is muon or 0.5MeV particle the true electron of atoms. Stupidity seeks to surround itself in more stupidity.
    On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 5:57:04 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    Black holes are a useless mathematical abstraction in terms of occurring singularities (infinite density and gravity), where physics breaks down and it is impossible to describe phenomena in singularities.

    Dark holes are a modification of black holes by removing the singularity and introducing a maximum natural density (currently electron density).

    Following observations, dark holes can occur in complex structures where, under the right circumstances, they can produce a simple mass from the constituents of an electron.

    This is a thread about dark holes (DH) in the physics forum, try to comment substantively.

    This is a thread about whether Loch Ness monster has green eyes or pink eyes.
    Undermine the radius formula for DH. Note that if we substitute the mass of the electron
    for the mass of the dark hole, the radius DH will be equal to the radius of the electron ( <10^-22 m).

    When a fool cannot tell the true electron of Atoms is the muon inside a proton torus of 840MeV, yet that fool waxes on about bullshit of holes in space where even the Pauli Exclusion Principle deny. A fool never fixes foundations but jumps onto the
    extreme outer fringe limbs.
    Calculate the Schwarzschild radius of the electron and compare the different results
    of experiments determining the size of the electron...
    Calculate if their is any intelligence in your cranium...

    Try again (third time)...or s_u.

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to Enes Richard on Wed Aug 23 00:52:11 2023
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 2:48:31 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 09:25:36 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 2:15:44 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    wtorek, 22 sierpnia 2023 o 22:59:32 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    Imp waffling on, when he/it cannot even admit slant cut of cone is Oval not ellipse, and far too stupid to ask is muon or 0.5MeV particle the true electron of atoms. Stupidity seeks to surround itself in more stupidity.
    On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 5:57:04 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    Black holes are a useless mathematical abstraction in terms of occurring singularities (infinite density and gravity), where physics breaks down and it is impossible to describe phenomena in singularities.

    Dark holes are a modification of black holes by removing the singularity and introducing a maximum natural density (currently electron density).

    Following observations, dark holes can occur in complex structures where, under the right circumstances, they can produce a simple mass from the constituents of an electron.

    This is a thread about dark holes (DH) in the physics forum, try to comment substantively.

    This is a thread about whether Loch Ness monster has green eyes or pink eyes.
    Undermine the radius formula for DH. Note that if we substitute the mass of the electron
    for the mass of the dark hole, the radius DH will be equal to the radius of the electron ( <10^-22 m).

    When a fool cannot tell the true electron of Atoms is the muon inside a proton torus of 840MeV, yet that fool waxes on about bullshit of holes in space where even the Pauli Exclusion Principle deny. A fool never fixes foundations but jumps onto the
    extreme outer fringe limbs.
    Calculate the Schwarzschild radius of the electron and compare the different results
    of experiments determining the size of the electron...
    Calculate if their is any intelligence in your cranium...
    Try again (third time)...or s_u.

    So you want to fill sci.physics with clutterbox computers talking airhead nonsense, spam.

    It is hard enough to get rid of cranks and crackpots, now we have to get rid of airhead computers...

    Leave sci.physics and sci.math to only human research. A simple request.

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  • From Enes Richard@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 23 01:26:58 2023
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 09:52:15 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 2:48:31 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 09:25:36 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 2:15:44 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    wtorek, 22 sierpnia 2023 o 22:59:32 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    Imp waffling on, when he/it cannot even admit slant cut of cone is Oval not ellipse, and far too stupid to ask is muon or 0.5MeV particle the true electron of atoms. Stupidity seeks to surround itself in more stupidity.
    On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 5:57:04 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    Black holes are a useless mathematical abstraction in terms of occurring singularities (infinite density and gravity), where physics breaks down and it is impossible to describe phenomena in singularities.

    Dark holes are a modification of black holes by removing the singularity and introducing a maximum natural density (currently electron density).

    Following observations, dark holes can occur in complex structures where, under the right circumstances, they can produce a simple mass from the constituents of an electron.

    This is a thread about dark holes (DH) in the physics forum, try to comment substantively.

    This is a thread about whether Loch Ness monster has green eyes or pink eyes.
    Undermine the radius formula for DH. Note that if we substitute the mass of the electron
    for the mass of the dark hole, the radius DH will be equal to the radius of the electron ( <10^-22 m).

    When a fool cannot tell the true electron of Atoms is the muon inside a proton torus of 840MeV, yet that fool waxes on about bullshit of holes in space where even the Pauli Exclusion Principle deny. A fool never fixes foundations but jumps onto the
    extreme outer fringe limbs.
    Calculate the Schwarzschild radius of the electron and compare the different results
    of experiments determining the size of the electron...
    Calculate if their is any intelligence in your cranium...
    Try again (third time)...or s_u.
    So you want to fill sci.physics with clutterbox computers talking airhead nonsense, spam.

    It is hard enough to get rid of cranks and crackpots, now we have to get rid of airhead computers...

    Leave sci.physics and sci.math to only human research. A simple request.

    Have you already forgotten who explained to you in engineering the third part (with the design of the experience)?

    Did you forget who explained to you the reflection of alpha particles from the nuclei
    (spin 2/3 of the middle part) of gold (with experiment design)?

    You're acting like England towards Poland, which helped her win the battle against Germany (insolently) ...
    Come to your senses!

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to Enes Richard on Wed Aug 23 01:32:52 2023
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 3:27:02 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 09:52:15 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 2:48:31 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 09:25:36 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 2:15:44 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    wtorek, 22 sierpnia 2023 o 22:59:32 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    Imp waffling on, when he/it cannot even admit slant cut of cone is Oval not ellipse, and far too stupid to ask is muon or 0.5MeV particle the true electron of atoms. Stupidity seeks to surround itself in more stupidity.
    On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 5:57:04 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    Black holes are a useless mathematical abstraction in terms of occurring singularities (infinite density and gravity), where physics breaks down and it is impossible to describe phenomena in singularities.

    Dark holes are a modification of black holes by removing the singularity and introducing a maximum natural density (currently electron density).

    Following observations, dark holes can occur in complex structures where, under the right circumstances, they can produce a simple mass from the constituents of an electron.

    This is a thread about dark holes (DH) in the physics forum, try to comment substantively.

    This is a thread about whether Loch Ness monster has green eyes or pink eyes.
    Undermine the radius formula for DH. Note that if we substitute the mass of the electron
    for the mass of the dark hole, the radius DH will be equal to the radius of the electron ( <10^-22 m).

    When a fool cannot tell the true electron of Atoms is the muon inside a proton torus of 840MeV, yet that fool waxes on about bullshit of holes in space where even the Pauli Exclusion Principle deny. A fool never fixes foundations but jumps onto
    the extreme outer fringe limbs.
    Calculate the Schwarzschild radius of the electron and compare the different results
    of experiments determining the size of the electron...
    Calculate if their is any intelligence in your cranium...
    Try again (third time)...or s_u.
    So you want to fill sci.physics with clutterbox computers talking airhead nonsense, spam.

    It is hard enough to get rid of cranks and crackpots, now we have to get rid of airhead computers...

    Leave sci.physics and sci.math to only human research. A simple request.
    Have you already forgotten who explained to you in engineering the third part
    (with the design of the experience)?

    Did you forget who explained to you the reflection of alpha particles from the nuclei
    (spin 2/3 of the middle part) of gold (with experiment design)?

    You're acting like England towards Poland, which helped her win the battle against Germany (insolently) ...
    Come to your senses!

    You explained nothing you ignorant fool. In fact, you had the stupid idea that the Rutherford gold leaf experiment with increased velocity of alpha particles was due to the spin of the gold fake nuclei contributing that spin to making faster velocity
    exits.

    I pegged you as a airhead computer, but I may have to pegg you as a up and coming new crank-crackpot human.

    Now, that is a choice-- whether tis better to battle a crank-crackpot or to suffer the slings and arrows of a clutterbox computer.

    AP

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  • From Enes Richard@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 23 03:14:31 2023
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 10:32:57 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 3:27:02 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 09:52:15 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 2:48:31 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 09:25:36 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 2:15:44 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    wtorek, 22 sierpnia 2023 o 22:59:32 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    Imp waffling on, when he/it cannot even admit slant cut of cone is Oval not ellipse, and far too stupid to ask is muon or 0.5MeV particle the true electron of atoms. Stupidity seeks to surround itself in more stupidity.
    On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 5:57:04 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    Black holes are a useless mathematical abstraction in terms of occurring singularities (infinite density and gravity), where physics breaks down and it is impossible to describe phenomena in singularities.

    Dark holes are a modification of black holes by removing the singularity and introducing a maximum natural density (currently electron density).

    Following observations, dark holes can occur in complex structures where, under the right circumstances, they can produce a simple mass from the constituents of an electron.

    This is a thread about dark holes (DH) in the physics forum, try to comment substantively.

    This is a thread about whether Loch Ness monster has green eyes or pink eyes.
    Undermine the radius formula for DH. Note that if we substitute the mass of the electron
    for the mass of the dark hole, the radius DH will be equal to the radius of the electron ( <10^-22 m).

    When a fool cannot tell the true electron of Atoms is the muon inside a proton torus of 840MeV, yet that fool waxes on about bullshit of holes in space where even the Pauli Exclusion Principle deny. A fool never fixes foundations but jumps onto
    the extreme outer fringe limbs.
    Calculate the Schwarzschild radius of the electron and compare the different results
    of experiments determining the size of the electron...
    Calculate if their is any intelligence in your cranium...
    Try again (third time)...or s_u.
    So you want to fill sci.physics with clutterbox computers talking airhead nonsense, spam.

    It is hard enough to get rid of cranks and crackpots, now we have to get rid of airhead computers...

    Leave sci.physics and sci.math to only human research. A simple request.
    Have you already forgotten who explained to you in engineering the third part
    (with the design of the experience)?

    Did you forget who explained to you the reflection of alpha particles from the nuclei
    (spin 2/3 of the middle part) of gold (with experiment design)?

    You're acting like England towards Poland, which helped her win the battle against Germany (insolently) ...
    Come to your senses!
    You explained nothing you ignorant fool. In fact, you had the stupid idea that the Rutherford gold leaf experiment with increased velocity of alpha particles was due to the spin of the gold fake nuclei contributing that spin to making faster velocity
    exits.

    I pegged you as a airhead computer, but I may have to pegg you as a up and coming new crank-crackpot human.

    Now, that is a choice-- whether tis better to battle a crank-crackpot or to suffer the slings and arrows of a clutterbox computer.

    AP

    There has to be a third choice... and there is.
    Fighting the person in the mirror...

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  • From Volney@21:1/5 to Archimedes Plutonium on Wed Aug 23 14:33:58 2023
    On 8/23/2023 4:32 AM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 3:27:02 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 09:52:15 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a): >>> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 2:48:31 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote: >>>> środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 09:25:36 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 2:15:44 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote: >>>>>> wtorek, 22 sierpnia 2023 o 22:59:32 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    Imp waffling on, when he/it cannot even admit slant cut of cone is Oval not ellipse, and far too stupid to ask is muon or 0.5MeV particle the true electron of atoms. Stupidity seeks to surround itself in more stupidity.
    On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 5:57:04 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:

    Kookfight!!!!

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  • From Enes Richard@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 23 13:09:32 2023
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 20:34:03 UTC+2 Volney napisał(a):
    On 8/23/2023 4:32 AM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 3:27:02 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 09:52:15 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 2:48:31 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote: >>>> środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 09:25:36 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 2:15:44 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    wtorek, 22 sierpnia 2023 o 22:59:32 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    Imp waffling on, when he/it cannot even admit slant cut of cone is Oval not ellipse, and far too stupid to ask is muon or 0.5MeV particle the true electron of atoms. Stupidity seeks to surround itself in more stupidity.
    On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 5:57:04 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    Kookfight!!!!

    The third to fight?
    ... or maybe you will try to write something substantive
    on the main subject (on measure of your competences)?

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to Enes Richard on Wed Aug 23 13:16:43 2023
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:09:36 PM UTC-7, Enes Richard wrote:
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 20:34:03 UTC+2 Volney napisał(a):
    On 8/23/2023 4:32 AM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 3:27:02 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 09:52:15 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 2:48:31 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 09:25:36 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 2:15:44 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    wtorek, 22 sierpnia 2023 o 22:59:32 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    Imp waffling on, when he/it cannot even admit slant cut of cone is Oval not ellipse, and far too stupid to ask is muon or 0.5MeV particle the true electron of atoms. Stupidity seeks to surround itself in more stupidity.
    On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 5:57:04 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    Kookfight!!!!
    The third to fight?
    ... or maybe you will try to write something substantive
    on the main subject (on measure of your competences)?

    If c does not slow down under gravity escape velocity has
    never applied to light allowing it to leave all gravity strengths.


    Mitchell Raemsch

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  • From Enes Richard@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 25 05:43:58 2023
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 22:16:47 UTC+2 [email protected] napisał(a):
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:09:36 PM UTC-7, Enes Richard wrote:
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 20:34:03 UTC+2 Volney napisał(a):
    On 8/23/2023 4:32 AM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 3:27:02 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 09:52:15 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 2:48:31 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 09:25:36 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 2:15:44 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    wtorek, 22 sierpnia 2023 o 22:59:32 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    Imp waffling on, when he/it cannot even admit slant cut of cone is Oval not ellipse, and far too stupid to ask is muon or 0.5MeV particle the true electron of atoms. Stupidity seeks to surround itself in more stupidity.
    On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 5:57:04 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    Kookfight!!!!
    The third to fight?
    ... or maybe you will try to write something substantive
    on the main subject (on measure of your competences)?
    If c does not slow down under gravity escape velocity has
    never applied to light allowing it to leave all gravity strengths.


    Mitchell Raemsch

    Gravity can bend the path of light.
    Theoretically, it could be a bend even to the line of a circle...

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  • From Enes Richard@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 25 13:23:38 2023
    piątek, 25 sierpnia 2023 o 14:44:02 UTC+2 Enes Richard napisał(a):
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 22:16:47 UTC+2 [email protected] napisał(a):
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:09:36 PM UTC-7, Enes Richard wrote:
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 20:34:03 UTC+2 Volney napisał(a):
    On 8/23/2023 4:32 AM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 3:27:02 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 09:52:15 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 2:48:31 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 09:25:36 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 2:15:44 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    wtorek, 22 sierpnia 2023 o 22:59:32 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    Imp waffling on, when he/it cannot even admit slant cut of cone is Oval not ellipse, and far too stupid to ask is muon or 0.5MeV particle the true electron of atoms. Stupidity seeks to surround itself in more stupidity.
    On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 5:57:04 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    Kookfight!!!!
    The third to fight?
    ... or maybe you will try to write something substantive
    on the main subject (on measure of your competences)?
    If c does not slow down under gravity escape velocity has
    never applied to light allowing it to leave all gravity strengths.


    Mitchell Raemsch

    Gravity can bend the path of light.
    Theoretically, it could be a bend even to the line of a circle...

    When the object causing the light to move in a circle is a rotating dark hole,
    the radius of the circle is equal to half the Schwarzschild radius,
    which results from simple formula comparisons and calculations.

    Similar to black holes: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promie%C5%84_Schwarzschilda

    """"""The Schwarzschild radius is also sometimes called the gravitational radius,
    although most often the gravitational radius is twice as small, applicable to the description of rotating (without spherical symmetry) black holes described by the Kerr metric..."""""""

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  • From Enes Richard@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 19 03:25:33 2023
    piątek, 25 sierpnia 2023 o 22:23:42 UTC+2 Enes Richard napisał(a):
    piątek, 25 sierpnia 2023 o 14:44:02 UTC+2 Enes Richard napisał(a):
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 22:16:47 UTC+2 [email protected] napisał(a):
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:09:36 PM UTC-7, Enes Richard wrote:
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 20:34:03 UTC+2 Volney napisał(a):
    On 8/23/2023 4:32 AM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 3:27:02 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 09:52:15 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 2:48:31 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 09:25:36 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 2:15:44 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    wtorek, 22 sierpnia 2023 o 22:59:32 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    Imp waffling on, when he/it cannot even admit slant cut of cone is Oval not ellipse, and far too stupid to ask is muon or 0.5MeV particle the true electron of atoms. Stupidity seeks to surround itself in more stupidity.
    On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 5:57:04 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    Kookfight!!!!
    The third to fight?
    ... or maybe you will try to write something substantive
    on the main subject (on measure of your competences)?
    If c does not slow down under gravity escape velocity has
    never applied to light allowing it to leave all gravity strengths.


    Mitchell Raemsch

    Gravity can bend the path of light.
    Theoretically, it could be a bend even to the line of a circle...

    When the object causing the light to move in a circle is a rotating dark hole,
    the radius of the circle is equal to half the Schwarzschild radius,
    which results from simple formula comparisons and calculations.

    Similar to black holes: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promie%C5%84_Schwarzschilda

    """"""The Schwarzschild radius is also sometimes called the gravitational radius,
    although most often the gravitational radius is twice as small, applicable to
    the description of rotating (without spherical symmetry) black holes described by the Kerr metric..."""""""

    Indeed, the gravitational radius of a physical dark hole (or a rotating mathematical black hole)
    is half the Schwarzschild radius.

    Light moves in a circle, so there is a centrifugal force balanced by the centripetal force of gravity.

    m*c^2/R = G*Mdh*m/R^2
    so:
    R = G*Mdh/c^2

    (btw: Rsh = 2*G*Mdh/c^2 )

    Where:
    m - mass equivalent of light energy,
    c - speed of light,
    R - gravitational radius of the dark hole,
    G - gravity constant,
    Mdh - mass of the dark hole,
    Rsh - Schwarzschild radius.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to Enes Richard on Sun Nov 19 15:36:55 2023
    On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 5:44:02 AM UTC-7, Enes Richard wrote:
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 22:16:47 UTC+2 [email protected] napisał(a):
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:09:36 PM UTC-7, Enes Richard wrote:
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 20:34:03 UTC+2 Volney napisał(a):
    On 8/23/2023 4:32 AM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 3:27:02 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 09:52:15 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 2:48:31 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 09:25:36 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 2:15:44 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    wtorek, 22 sierpnia 2023 o 22:59:32 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    Imp waffling on, when he/it cannot even admit slant cut of cone is Oval not ellipse, and far too stupid to ask is muon or 0.5MeV particle the true electron of atoms. Stupidity seeks to surround itself in more stupidity.
    On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 5:57:04 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    Kookfight!!!!
    The third to fight?
    ... or maybe you will try to write something substantive
    on the main subject (on measure of your competences)?
    If c does not slow down under gravity escape velocity has
    never applied to light allowing it to leave all gravity strengths.


    Mitchell Raemsch

    Gravity can bend the path of light.

    Light moves through a gravity parabola path.
    Look at Sobral and Shapiro...
    God creates those path's. He creates His gravity order.

    Theoretically, it could be a bend even to the line of a circle...

    No. Gravity does not curve quantum motion paths.

    Mitchell Raemsch

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  • From Enes Richard@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 20 04:24:29 2023
    poniedziałek, 20 listopada 2023 o 00:36:58 UTC+1 [email protected] napisał(a):
    On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 5:44:02 AM UTC-7, Enes Richard wrote:
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 22:16:47 UTC+2 [email protected] napisał(a):
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:09:36 PM UTC-7, Enes Richard wrote:
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 20:34:03 UTC+2 Volney napisał(a):
    On 8/23/2023 4:32 AM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 3:27:02 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 09:52:15 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 2:48:31 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 09:25:36 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 2:15:44 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    wtorek, 22 sierpnia 2023 o 22:59:32 UTC+2 Archimedes Plutonium napisał(a):
    Imp waffling on, when he/it cannot even admit slant cut of cone is Oval not ellipse, and far too stupid to ask is muon or 0.5MeV particle the true electron of atoms. Stupidity seeks to surround itself in more stupidity.
    On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 5:57:04 AM UTC-5, Enes Richard wrote:
    Kookfight!!!!
    The third to fight?
    ... or maybe you will try to write something substantive
    on the main subject (on measure of your competences)?
    If c does not slow down under gravity escape velocity has
    never applied to light allowing it to leave all gravity strengths.


    Mitchell Raemsch

    Gravity can bend the path of light.
    Light moves through a gravity parabola path.
    Look at Sobral and Shapiro...
    God creates those path's. He creates His gravity order.
    Theoretically, it could be a bend even to the line of a circle...
    No. Gravity does not curve quantum motion paths.

    Mitchell Raemsch

    Give an example (proof, calculation) that light moving past a physical dark hole (or mathematical black hole)
    can move closer than the gravitational radius... and escape in a parabola from a region of such a radius.

    This would be against the state of knowledge/science in this field... but who knows?

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  • From Enes Richard@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 27 03:42:38 2023
    piątek, 14 lipca 2023 o 11:56:04 UTC+2 Enes Richard napisał(a):
    środa, 12 lipca 2023 o 12:57:04 UTC+2 Enes Richard napisał(a):
    Black holes are a useless mathematical abstraction in terms of occurring singularities (infinite density and gravity), where physics breaks down and it is impossible to describe phenomena in singularities.

    Dark holes are a modification of black holes by removing the singularity and introducing a maximum natural density (currently electron density).

    Following observations, dark holes can occur in complex structures where, under the right circumstances, they can produce a simple mass from the constituents of an electron.

    A star of sufficient mass can become a dark hole (DH) through gravitational collapse. Electrons are squeezed into the nuclei of atoms,
    and the nuclei are compressed to the electron density (max.).

    DH takes the star's angular momentum (spin), through the flattened disk it can turn into a rotating torus
    (around the axis of symmetry and right or left-handed around the circle of rotation).


    "DH takes over the angular momentum (spin) of the star, and through the flattened disk it can turn into a spinning torus
    (around the axis of symmetry and clockwise or counterclockwise around the circle of rotation)."

    Of course, such a compact torus cannot simultaneously rotate around the axis of symmetry
    and perpendicular to the circle of rotation.

    Therefore, there must be segmentation, i.e. division into smaller disks or toruses...
    with axes of rotation in a plane perpendicular to the main axis of rotation BH.

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