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    From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 25 16:19:51 2023
    Can_Dr.Philip Anderson,Dr.Christopher Eisgruber,Dr.Michael Aizenman -please--step into the Princeton Univ physics or chemistry lab and weigh the mass of Electrolysis Water, proving Water is H4O not H2O. AP's homegrown lab cannot do the fine tuning
    experiment of weighing a test tube of electrolyzed hydrogen and oxygen from water. If AP is correct Water is really H4O, not H2O. I am sure Princeton has a better weighing scale than 0.00001 gram.

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    Spam mill echo chamber, that is WM along with his spamletts a decades long spammer of sci.math, yet he fails math. Is it that Gottingen cannot understand the slant cut in single cone is an Oval, never the ellipse, or is it the foolish Boole logic
    they teach of 2 OR 1 = 3 with AND as subtraction? Or is it that neither WM or Gottingen can do a geometry proof Fundamental Theorem of Calculus? Which is it W. Mueckenheim?? You spammer crank.

    The endless and worthless Spam Mill Echo Chamber of Wolfgang Mueckenheim

    Could WM loudmouth step into the Gottingen Univ physics or chemistry lab and weigh the mass of Electrolysis Water, or is he only good for loudmouth nonsense of airhead complaints of calculus, along with his nonsense that slant cut of cone is
    ellipse, when in truth that is a oval.

    +Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within




    +Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within

    3m views Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium


    Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within the accuracy I need for weighing a test tube of oxygen then a test tube of hydrogen from water electrolysis.


    Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium

    In Old Chemistry and Old Physics, their subatomic particles were do nothing and no function and no job particles that sit around as balls or whiz around the outside of balls doing nothing but pointless circling.

    In New Physics and New Chemistry-- All is Atom and Atoms are nothing but electricity and magnetism. Every subatomic particle has a job a function a purpose as to the Laws of Electromagnetism--- Faraday law, Coulomb law, Ampere law, Capacitor law.

    A proton is a torus of 840MeV with 840 windings, while the muon is the true electron of Atoms and is encased inside the proton torus thrusting through and producing electricity-- magnetic monopoles.

    The neutron of Atoms is a parallel plate capacitor storing the electricity of proton+muon and is skin cover on the outside of the proton torus in the form of parallel plates.

    Can hydrogen be a Atom if it is just a proton+muon? No, all atoms require to have a capacitor such as at least one neutron. Thus the Hydrogen Atom is H2 where you have 2 proton+muon where 1 of the 2 proton+muon acts like a neutron to the other
    proton+muon. Thus, water molecule is not H2O but rather is H4O.

    AP is waiting for experimental chemists and physicists to prove him correct that Water is H4O.

    In the meantime we have Hydroxyl which in Old Chemistry, especially Biology is OH, while AP says that is wrong and that is really H2O.

    Now glycerine is a hydroxyl with formula C3H8O3. And what I am thinking at this moment, is that hydroxyls will be an easier proof that Water is truly H4O, rather than wait for experimentalists to actually "weigh the electrolysis test tubes of
    oxygen and hydrogen".

    You see, with H4O as water, glycerine is C3(2 waters)O with an extra oxygen. If Water is H2O then glycerine is C3(4 waters) deficit O. It is missing an oxygen if water is H2O.

    The reason glycerine is so effective as a skin ointment is because it has glycerine, the extra O oxygen. If water were H2O, then glycerine would be a missing oxygen and not a skin lotion that works, but makes skin even more dry.

    Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium

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    --- quoting in part from source-- Study.com ---
    Perhaps there is only two Faraday laws on Electrolysis. I am looking at the one that states: Faraday's first law of electrolysis relates the mass of a substance liberated (or deposited) at an electrode to the electric charge used (Q). A
    proportionality constant Z can be used:

    m = ZQ = (E/96485)(Q)

    m = mass, Q = total charge rewritten as Q = I*t amperes x time in seconds.

    This website gives an example: 5amps passed through molten Sodium Chloride for 3 hours. Calculate the mass of Sodium. E=23/1.

    m = (23/96485) (5) (3*60*60) approx 12.87 grams.

    --- end quoting in part from source-- Study.com ---

    Now has such a experiment been performed on Water to see how much atomic mass of hydrogen and of oxygen results??? If AP is correct, the formula of water is H4O, if Old Physics, Old Chemistry is correct the formula is H2O. So which is it???

    AP


    No, sorry no, Faraday's Law of Electrolysis is not going to tell the correct mass of hydrogen.

    Reading Wikipedia on Faraday's Electrolysis law.

    --- quoting Wikipedia ---
    A monovalent ion requires 1 electron for discharge, a divalent ion requires 2 electrons for discharge and so on. Thus, if x electrons flow,
    x/v atoms are discharged.

    So the mass m discharged is

    m= (xM)/vN_A) = (QM)/(eN_A *v) = (QM) / (vF)
    where
    N_A is the Avogadro constant;
    Q = xe is the total charge, equal to the number of electrons (x) times the elementary charge e;
    F is the Faraday constant.
    --- end quoting Wikipedia ---

    No, the Faraday law of Electrolysis will not work on water with a correct answer, because H is not an atom but H2 is an Atom. And where one of the proton+muon converts to being a neutron to the other proton+muon.

    So if Faraday's law of Electrolysis was applied to water, thinking it would deliver a true answer is mistaken because the one H converts to neutron.

    So it appears that we need to directly measure the test tube of oxygen and the test tube of hydrogen by a direct mass measurement.
    AP
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    I doubt we can measure a test tube of hydrogen or test tube of oxygen, too small to determine the mass on some sort of weight scale.

    But here is a possible lucrative idea. We should be able to get pure deuterium water. Then run the electrolysis. Collect the test tubes.

    Now have some sort of balancing beam weight scale. Place the regular water of hydrogen test tube on one side, and place the deuterium water hydrogen test tube on other side. If they stay balanced, then AP is correct and Water is really H4O.
    AP
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    Cosmic Rays from Sun

    90% of Sun's cosmic rays are 840MeV proton+muon inside = H. The hydrogen Atom is H2 where one of the H proton+muon converts to being a neutron.

    When these proton+muon hit Earth atmosphere, they can turn into pions and muons.

    I commented that H alone is a subatomic particle and that makes sense in the idea that Sun's cosmic rays are 90% these proton+muon.

    Now is interstellar hydrogen H2 and intergalactic hydrogen H2 formed when one H cosmic ray joins up with another H cosmic ray to form H2 atom?

    Is this how we get H2 in outer space? From the splitting apart of H2 into H cosmic rays?

    So how much of the Sun's hydrogen is H2 and how much is H ready to join with another H and reform back into H2. Probably little of the Sun's H is H alone, and the vast majority of the Sun's hydrogen is H2.

    How much deuterium in the Sun? And it is a higher percentage than the deuterium in water on Earth?
    AP
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    Water is the only known non-metallic substance that expands when if freezes; its density decreases and it expands approximately 9% by volume. (Source: web Lunar and Planetary Institute)

    I have to wait for experimental chemists and physicists to weigh the mass of test tubes from electrolysis, as to the verdict-- water is H4O.

    But until that news comes in, I will look for other means of proof.

    So AP says that the H2 is not a molecule but is the hydrogen Atom itself, where one proton+muon converts to a neutron and capacitates the other proton+muon which undergo the Faraday law.

    There are subatomic particles of H in the form of Cosmic Rays from the Sun, but most of the Sun's hydrogen is H2, and flips back and forth from H to rejoining to form H2. Some gets away from the Sun and is cosmic rays.

    But H2 is an Atom and H is a fleeting subatomic particle.

    So can I prove Water is H4O from the data of Spectral lines of H2 is the same as deuterium, only slight difference is that the deuterium is a full fledged neutron not a makeshift proton+muon of H.

    I suspect that special trait of water freezing is a proof that Water is H4O. Because the 840MeV proton torus with muon inside doing the Faraday law acting as a makeshift neutron capacitor for the other 840MeV proton torus with muon inside, is where
    H2 gets that expansion characteristic.

    A neutron is a parallel plate capacitor and those plates can expand when frozen temperature occurs. As the temperature gets colder, those plates move further apart.

    Now does deuterium which truly has a full neutron, does it expand also when frozen?? If so, does it expand as much as H2 which is 2 protons with 2 muons inside?

    So comparing the freezing and expansion of the parallel plates of a neutron in deuterium with the freezing and expansion of one of the proton+muon that is acting as a makeshift neutron in H2.

    If I can numbers correlate the H2 expansion with the Deuterium expansion would be a alternative proof that Water is really H4O and not H2O.

    AP
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    So now on Blankenship's book "Molecular Mechanisms of Photosynthesis", 2014, page 134, shows The structure of ATP, ADP, AMP. And within that structure are OH hydroxyls.

    In New Chemistry, water is truly H4O, and where hydroxyls are now H2O. And we have first proof of this in the Figure 8.1 of Blankenship's "Chemical structure of ATP".

    For in the lower left corner of the diagram, Blankenship has a H+ all alone, (really a mindless error) and has P surrounded by O-, O-, O and OH. The OH is really H2O for hydroxyls are H2O and water itself is H4O, and that would leave that mindless
    H+ as being hydrogen Atom of H2.

    The world of physics and chemistry should drop what they are doing and weigh the electrolysis test tube of hydrogen and oxygen to discover the correct true formula of water is H4O.

    AP is total confident, becuase an Atom cannot exist if it has no capacitor structure such as a neutron, or one of the H in H2 acting as a neutron. I am totally confident that Water formula is truly H4O. And I need look only to methane of H4C, to
    realize that there is no HC, no H2C, no H3C, but starts with H4C, and that tells me water starts with H4O. Totally confident that Old Chemistry, Old Physics did electrolysis experiments and the moment they saw hydrogen test tube be 2x volume of oxygen
    test tube, they dropped their work and went out for a Danish and coffee break, rather than finish their work--- actual physics weighing of atomic mass units (not the Faraday electrolysis law for it does not apply to water).

    When water electrolysis is physics weighed, AP is confident that there are 4H per every one oxygen O. And that Water is truly H4O.

    AP, King of Science
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    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 8:56:57 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within the accuracy I need for weighing a test tube of oxygen then a test tube of hydrogen from water electrolysis.

    Now modern day physics and chemist experimenters can really do a marvelous job if they wanted to. For they could freeze the test tubes of oxygen and hydrogen to where they are liquid and compare liquids from water electrolysis.
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    So, what AP is saying here is that we do electrolysis of water. We collect the two test tubes, one with oxygen the other with hydrogen.

    To prove Water is truly the formula H4O and not H2O we must weigh the masses of the two tubes to find that the ratio is 1 x 16amu to 4 x 1amu.

    The silly grotesque science error of the past was to look at volumes in the two test tubes-- "Hey-- the hydrogen is twice the volume of oxygen so the formula of water is H2O".

    No, way was that science good practice. For the correct formula of water needs to be measured by mass, by atomic mass units where Oxygen is 16amu and hydrogen is 1amu.

    I suspect a balance beam scale is good enough to see the hydrogen test tube will be 1/4 as massive as the oxygen test tube. To get within precision of electronic weighing scale of 0.00001 gram we just have to make a larger test tube of electrolysis
    of water.

    AP is betting that the readings will be hydrogen test tube 1/4 the mass of oxygen test tube proving Water formula is truly H4O.

    Old Physics and Old Chemistry is betting that the mass experiment will have the hydrogen test tube be 1/8 the mass of the oxygen test tube, proving Water formula is H2O.

    AP does not have these precision equipment to conduct an at-home experiment of this nature.
    AP
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    So, once Water is found to actually be H4O, not H2O, we move on to methane, and ask the same question of its hydrogen bonds. Is Methane really that of H8C and not H4C.

    Well, looking in the literature for anomalies to methane, I come across a arXiv "Low and high-temperature anomalies in the physical properties of solid methane "The anomalous behavior of thermodynamic, spectral, plastic, elastic and some other
    properties of solid methane is discussed near 20.48K and...

    AP wonders: if they can get methane to solid form, well, I am then hopeful that the mass of the molecule can be determined. Because if methane is truly H8C, that difference of H4 in atomic mass units would be very much noticeable difference.

    Chemistry Europe--
    "The Anomalous Deuterium Isotope Effect in the NMR Spectrum of Methane...

    P Vermeeren, 2023
    "The abnormally long and weak methylidyne C-H bond.."
    "The C-H bond of the methylidyne radical, CH*, is abnormally long and weak, even longer and..."

    AP asks, are these anomalies solved if we consider methane is actually H8C and not H4C?

    AP


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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Wed Jul 26 05:19:28 2023
    Whodumbo's halwa is tight.
    (Constipated now is he.)


    On Wednesday, 26 July 2023 at 08:54:45 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Wednesday, 26 July 2023 at 05:25:09 UTC+8, whodat wrote:
    On 7/23/2023 2:03 PM, Volney wrote:
    On 7/23/2023 7:42 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Sunday, 23 July 2023 at 08:47:55 UTC+8, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 4:37:44 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:

    The question arises, why out of the hordes of journalists who are >>>> there to pounce upon any scandal, not one among them comes to check >>>> out my claims. The inevitable conclusion is... ?

    It could very be because you are bat-shit crazy and definitely a
    waste of good air.

    If that were really the case, they would be pouncing around me all right.
    They need bat shit crazy types and wastes of good air for their
    livelihood.

    Being just batshit crazy isn't enough for a good story. It also has to be /interesting/ batshit crazy.
    He should probably ask the press for advice on how to make his presentation interesting enough to them for some publicity. His
    attempts at faking something new obviously haven't been adequate.
    So what is the slope of my garage floor which caused the armature to roll down by gravity, whodumbo?

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  • From Athel Cornish-Bowden@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Rubard on Wed Jul 26 19:09:59 2023
    On 2023-07-25 18:50:42 +0000, Jeffrey Rubard said:

    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 9:52:37 AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
    On 2023-07-24 22:52:32 +0000, Sylvia Else said:>> > On 25-July-23 12:38
    am, Arindam Banerjee wrote:> >> On Monday, 24 July 2023 at 19:44:35
    UTC+8, Sylvia Else wrote:> >>> On 16-July-23 7:37 am, Arindam Banerjee
    wrote:> >>>> On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 20:45:18 UTC+10, Arindam
    Banerjee wrote:> >>>>> On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 18:43:05 UTC+10,
    corella wrote:> >>>>>>
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-14/india-to-launch-moon-rocket-chandrayaan-3/102583926>
    How will the mercury stay in place in space?> >>> >>
    Experts will devise appropriate methods. Technical issue, that.> >> >
    You're presupposing that a solution exists - inventing a problem for> >
    someone else to solve.> >> >> Mercury is highly cohesive and that will
    help in far outer space.> >> >> >> >> >> My insight is that this will
    work extremely well in far outer space.> >> On high altitude say at 100
    Km gravity will work.> >> >> >>>> >>> What will the mercury do when
    large currents pass through it?> >>> >> Conduct nicely. (No oxidation
    will be allowed in the evacuated spaces> >> where the engine will be
    kept.)> >> > You miss the point. Your apparatus uses the interaction
    between> > electric currents and magnetic fields. What makes you think
    that the> > mercury won't become involved in that?> >> >>> >> Let us
    agree that I have at least made a new invention.
    Why would Sylvia (or any other sane person) agree with that? It's a>
    matter between you and the Australian patent office.

    And not the USPTO?

    Unless he has moved (and I confess I haven't followed his movements)
    he's in Melbourne.

    --
    athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Rubard on Wed Jul 26 16:52:01 2023
    On Thursday, 27 July 2023 at 04:53:44 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 10:10:09 AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
    On 2023-07-25 18:50:42 +0000, Jeffrey Rubard said:

    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 9:52:37 AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
    On 2023-07-24 22:52:32 +0000, Sylvia Else said:>> > On 25-July-23 12:38 >> am, Arindam Banerjee wrote:> >> On Monday, 24 July 2023 at 19:44:35
    UTC+8, Sylvia Else wrote:> >>> On 16-July-23 7:37 am, Arindam Banerjee >> wrote:> >>>> On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 20:45:18 UTC+10, Arindam
    Banerjee wrote:> >>>>> On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 18:43:05 UTC+10,
    corella wrote:> >>>>>>
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-14/india-to-launch-moon-rocket-chandrayaan-3/102583926>
    How will the mercury stay in place in space?> >>> >> >> Experts will devise appropriate methods. Technical issue, that.> >> > >> You're presupposing that a solution exists - inventing a problem for> > >> someone else to solve.> >> >> Mercury is highly cohesive and that will >> help in far outer space.> >> >> >> >> >> My insight is that this will >> work extremely well in far outer space.> >> On high altitude say at 100 >> Km gravity will work.> >> >> >>>> >>> What will the mercury do when
    large currents pass through it?> >>> >> Conduct nicely. (No oxidation >> will be allowed in the evacuated spaces> >> where the engine will be
    kept.)> >> > You miss the point. Your apparatus uses the interaction
    between> > electric currents and magnetic fields. What makes you think >> that the> > mercury won't become involved in that?> >> >>> >> Let us
    agree that I have at least made a new invention.
    Why would Sylvia (or any other sane person) agree with that? It's a>
    matter between you and the Australian patent office.

    And not the USPTO?
    Unless he has moved (and I confess I haven't followed his movements)
    he's in Melbourne.
    --
    "This is a hoax, right?"
    Continue with your headless chook perambulations, keep on flapping.

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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Thu Jul 27 05:07:50 2023
    On Thursday, 27 July 2023 at 09:52:04 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Thursday, 27 July 2023 at 04:53:44 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 10:10:09 AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
    On 2023-07-25 18:50:42 +0000, Jeffrey Rubard said:

    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 9:52:37 AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
    On 2023-07-24 22:52:32 +0000, Sylvia Else said:>> > On 25-July-23 12:38
    am, Arindam Banerjee wrote:> >> On Monday, 24 July 2023 at 19:44:35 >> UTC+8, Sylvia Else wrote:> >>> On 16-July-23 7:37 am, Arindam Banerjee
    wrote:> >>>> On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 20:45:18 UTC+10, Arindam
    Banerjee wrote:> >>>>> On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 18:43:05 UTC+10, >> corella wrote:> >>>>>>
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-14/india-to-launch-moon-rocket-chandrayaan-3/102583926>
    How will the mercury stay in place in space?> >>> >>
    Experts will devise appropriate methods. Technical issue, that.> >> > >> You're presupposing that a solution exists - inventing a problem for> >
    someone else to solve.> >> >> Mercury is highly cohesive and that will
    help in far outer space.> >> >> >> >> >> My insight is that this will >> work extremely well in far outer space.> >> On high altitude say at 100
    Km gravity will work.> >> >> >>>> >>> What will the mercury do when >> large currents pass through it?> >>> >> Conduct nicely. (No oxidation >> will be allowed in the evacuated spaces> >> where the engine will be >> kept.)> >> > You miss the point. Your apparatus uses the interaction >> between> > electric currents and magnetic fields. What makes you think
    that the> > mercury won't become involved in that?> >> >>> >> Let us >> agree that I have at least made a new invention.
    Why would Sylvia (or any other sane person) agree with that? It's a> >> matter between you and the Australian patent office.

    And not the USPTO?
    Unless he has moved (and I confess I haven't followed his movements) he's in Melbourne.
    --
    "This is a hoax, right?"
    Continue with your headless chook perambulations, keep on flapping.
    Well, representing the topless heights of the Western intellect, what do we have here to counter me in this most open, global, unique forum? Headless chooks, extraordinary incompetents, surly creatures, freaks, imbeciles etc.

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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Thu Jul 27 11:19:53 2023
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 5:07:55 AM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Thursday, 27 July 2023 at 09:52:04 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Thursday, 27 July 2023 at 04:53:44 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 10:10:09 AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
    On 2023-07-25 18:50:42 +0000, Jeffrey Rubard said:

    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 9:52:37 AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
    On 2023-07-24 22:52:32 +0000, Sylvia Else said:>> > On 25-July-23 12:38
    am, Arindam Banerjee wrote:> >> On Monday, 24 July 2023 at 19:44:35 >> UTC+8, Sylvia Else wrote:> >>> On 16-July-23 7:37 am, Arindam Banerjee
    wrote:> >>>> On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 20:45:18 UTC+10, Arindam >> Banerjee wrote:> >>>>> On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 18:43:05 UTC+10,
    corella wrote:> >>>>>>
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-14/india-to-launch-moon-rocket-chandrayaan-3/102583926>
    How will the mercury stay in place in space?> >>> >>
    Experts will devise appropriate methods. Technical issue, that.> >> >
    You're presupposing that a solution exists - inventing a problem for> >
    someone else to solve.> >> >> Mercury is highly cohesive and that will
    help in far outer space.> >> >> >> >> >> My insight is that this will
    work extremely well in far outer space.> >> On high altitude say at 100
    Km gravity will work.> >> >> >>>> >>> What will the mercury do when >> large currents pass through it?> >>> >> Conduct nicely. (No oxidation
    will be allowed in the evacuated spaces> >> where the engine will be
    kept.)> >> > You miss the point. Your apparatus uses the interaction
    between> > electric currents and magnetic fields. What makes you think
    that the> > mercury won't become involved in that?> >> >>> >> Let us
    agree that I have at least made a new invention.
    Why would Sylvia (or any other sane person) agree with that? It's a>
    matter between you and the Australian patent office.

    And not the USPTO?
    Unless he has moved (and I confess I haven't followed his movements) he's in Melbourne.
    --
    "This is a hoax, right?"
    Continue with your headless chook perambulations, keep on flapping.
    Well, representing the topless heights of the Western intellect, what do we have here to counter me in this most open, global, unique forum? Headless chooks, extraordinary incompetents, surly creatures, freaks, imbeciles etc.

    "You're getting too stupid for your own good, here."

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  • From whodat@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Rubard on Thu Jul 27 14:46:09 2023
    On 7/27/2023 1:19 PM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 5:07:55 AM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Thursday, 27 July 2023 at 09:52:04 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Thursday, 27 July 2023 at 04:53:44 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 10:10:09 AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
    On 2023-07-25 18:50:42 +0000, Jeffrey Rubard said:

    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 9:52:37 AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
    On 2023-07-24 22:52:32 +0000, Sylvia Else said:>> > On 25-July-23 12:38 >>>>>>> am, Arindam Banerjee wrote:> >> On Monday, 24 July 2023 at 19:44:35 >>>>>>> UTC+8, Sylvia Else wrote:> >>> On 16-July-23 7:37 am, Arindam Banerjee >>>>>>> wrote:> >>>> On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 20:45:18 UTC+10, Arindam >>>>>>> Banerjee wrote:> >>>>> On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 18:43:05 UTC+10, >>>>>>> corella wrote:> >>>>>>
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-14/india-to-launch-moon-rocket-chandrayaan-3/102583926>
    How will the mercury stay in place in space?> >>> >> >>>>>>> Experts will devise appropriate methods. Technical issue, that.> >> > >>>>>>> You're presupposing that a solution exists - inventing a problem for> > >>>>>>> someone else to solve.> >> >> Mercury is highly cohesive and that will >>>>>>> help in far outer space.> >> >> >> >> >> My insight is that this will >>>>>>> work extremely well in far outer space.> >> On high altitude say at 100 >>>>>>> Km gravity will work.> >> >> >>>> >>> What will the mercury do when >>>>>>> large currents pass through it?> >>> >> Conduct nicely. (No oxidation >>>>>>> will be allowed in the evacuated spaces> >> where the engine will be >>>>>>> kept.)> >> > You miss the point. Your apparatus uses the interaction >>>>>>> between> > electric currents and magnetic fields. What makes you think >>>>>>> that the> > mercury won't become involved in that?> >> >>> >> Let us >>>>>>> agree that I have at least made a new invention.
    Why would Sylvia (or any other sane person) agree with that? It's a> >>>>>>> matter between you and the Australian patent office.

    And not the USPTO?
    Unless he has moved (and I confess I haven't followed his movements) >>>>> he's in Melbourne.
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    Continue with your headless chook perambulations, keep on flapping.
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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 27 14:11:13 2023
    Can_Dr.Robert Austin,Dr.Waseem Bakr,Dr.Bogdan Bernevig -please--step into the Princeton Univ physics or chemistry lab and weigh the mass of Electrolysis Water, proving Water is H4O not H2O. AP's homegrown lab cannot do the fine tuning experiment of
    weighing a test tube of electrolyzed hydrogen and oxygen from water. If AP is correct Water is really H4O, not H2O. I am sure Princeton has a better weighing scale than 0.00001 gram.

    mitchr photo profile
    mitchr (spammer kook of a decade)
    ,...
    NASA has lied remember their JW fall back

    Spam mill echo chamber, that is WM along with his spamletts a decades long spammer of sci.math, yet he fails math. Is it that Gottingen cannot understand the slant cut in single cone is an Oval, never the ellipse, or is it the foolish Boole logic
    they teach of 2 OR 1 = 3 with AND as subtraction? Or is it that neither WM or Gottingen can do a geometry proof Fundamental Theorem of Calculus? Which is it W. Mueckenheim?? You spammer crank.

    The endless and worthless Spam Mill Echo Chamber of Wolfgang Mueckenheim

    Could WM loudmouth step into the Gottingen Univ physics or chemistry lab and weigh the mass of Electrolysis Water, or is he only good for loudmouth nonsense of airhead complaints of calculus, along with his nonsense that slant cut of cone is
    ellipse, when in truth that is a oval.

    +Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within




    +Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within

    3m views Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium


    Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within the accuracy I need for weighing a test tube of oxygen then a test tube of hydrogen from water electrolysis.


    Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium

    In Old Chemistry and Old Physics, their subatomic particles were do nothing and no function and no job particles that sit around as balls or whiz around the outside of balls doing nothing but pointless circling.

    In New Physics and New Chemistry-- All is Atom and Atoms are nothing but electricity and magnetism. Every subatomic particle has a job a function a purpose as to the Laws of Electromagnetism--- Faraday law, Coulomb law, Ampere law, Capacitor law.

    A proton is a torus of 840MeV with 840 windings, while the muon is the true electron of Atoms and is encased inside the proton torus thrusting through and producing electricity-- magnetic monopoles.

    The neutron of Atoms is a parallel plate capacitor storing the electricity of proton+muon and is skin cover on the outside of the proton torus in the form of parallel plates.

    Can hydrogen be a Atom if it is just a proton+muon? No, all atoms require to have a capacitor such as at least one neutron. Thus the Hydrogen Atom is H2 where you have 2 proton+muon where 1 of the 2 proton+muon acts like a neutron to the other
    proton+muon. Thus, water molecule is not H2O but rather is H4O.

    AP is waiting for experimental chemists and physicists to prove him correct that Water is H4O.

    In the meantime we have Hydroxyl which in Old Chemistry, especially Biology is OH, while AP says that is wrong and that is really H2O.

    Now glycerine is a hydroxyl with formula C3H8O3. And what I am thinking at this moment, is that hydroxyls will be an easier proof that Water is truly H4O, rather than wait for experimentalists to actually "weigh the electrolysis test tubes of
    oxygen and hydrogen".

    You see, with H4O as water, glycerine is C3(2 waters)O with an extra oxygen. If Water is H2O then glycerine is C3(4 waters) deficit O. It is missing an oxygen if water is H2O.

    The reason glycerine is so effective as a skin ointment is because it has glycerine, the extra O oxygen. If water were H2O, then glycerine would be a missing oxygen and not a skin lotion that works, but makes skin even more dry.

    Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium

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    --- quoting in part from source-- Study.com ---
    Perhaps there is only two Faraday laws on Electrolysis. I am looking at the one that states: Faraday's first law of electrolysis relates the mass of a substance liberated (or deposited) at an electrode to the electric charge used (Q). A
    proportionality constant Z can be used:

    m = ZQ = (E/96485)(Q)

    m = mass, Q = total charge rewritten as Q = I*t amperes x time in seconds.

    This website gives an example: 5amps passed through molten Sodium Chloride for 3 hours. Calculate the mass of Sodium. E=23/1.

    m = (23/96485) (5) (3*60*60) approx 12.87 grams.

    --- end quoting in part from source-- Study.com ---

    Now has such a experiment been performed on Water to see how much atomic mass of hydrogen and of oxygen results??? If AP is correct, the formula of water is H4O, if Old Physics, Old Chemistry is correct the formula is H2O. So which is it???

    AP


    No, sorry no, Faraday's Law of Electrolysis is not going to tell the correct mass of hydrogen.

    Reading Wikipedia on Faraday's Electrolysis law.

    --- quoting Wikipedia ---
    A monovalent ion requires 1 electron for discharge, a divalent ion requires 2 electrons for discharge and so on. Thus, if x electrons flow,
    x/v atoms are discharged.

    So the mass m discharged is

    m= (xM)/vN_A) = (QM)/(eN_A *v) = (QM) / (vF)
    where
    N_A is the Avogadro constant;
    Q = xe is the total charge, equal to the number of electrons (x) times the elementary charge e;
    F is the Faraday constant.
    --- end quoting Wikipedia ---

    No, the Faraday law of Electrolysis will not work on water with a correct answer, because H is not an atom but H2 is an Atom. And where one of the proton+muon converts to being a neutron to the other proton+muon.

    So if Faraday's law of Electrolysis was applied to water, thinking it would deliver a true answer is mistaken because the one H converts to neutron.

    So it appears that we need to directly measure the test tube of oxygen and the test tube of hydrogen by a direct mass measurement.
    AP
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    I doubt we can measure a test tube of hydrogen or test tube of oxygen, too small to determine the mass on some sort of weight scale.

    But here is a possible lucrative idea. We should be able to get pure deuterium water. Then run the electrolysis. Collect the test tubes.

    Now have some sort of balancing beam weight scale. Place the regular water of hydrogen test tube on one side, and place the deuterium water hydrogen test tube on other side. If they stay balanced, then AP is correct and Water is really H4O.
    AP
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    Cosmic Rays from Sun

    90% of Sun's cosmic rays are 840MeV proton+muon inside = H. The hydrogen Atom is H2 where one of the H proton+muon converts to being a neutron.

    When these proton+muon hit Earth atmosphere, they can turn into pions and muons.

    I commented that H alone is a subatomic particle and that makes sense in the idea that Sun's cosmic rays are 90% these proton+muon.

    Now is interstellar hydrogen H2 and intergalactic hydrogen H2 formed when one H cosmic ray joins up with another H cosmic ray to form H2 atom?

    Is this how we get H2 in outer space? From the splitting apart of H2 into H cosmic rays?

    So how much of the Sun's hydrogen is H2 and how much is H ready to join with another H and reform back into H2. Probably little of the Sun's H is H alone, and the vast majority of the Sun's hydrogen is H2.

    How much deuterium in the Sun? And it is a higher percentage than the deuterium in water on Earth?
    AP
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    Water is the only known non-metallic substance that expands when if freezes; its density decreases and it expands approximately 9% by volume. (Source: web Lunar and Planetary Institute)

    I have to wait for experimental chemists and physicists to weigh the mass of test tubes from electrolysis, as to the verdict-- water is H4O.

    But until that news comes in, I will look for other means of proof.

    So AP says that the H2 is not a molecule but is the hydrogen Atom itself, where one proton+muon converts to a neutron and capacitates the other proton+muon which undergo the Faraday law.

    There are subatomic particles of H in the form of Cosmic Rays from the Sun, but most of the Sun's hydrogen is H2, and flips back and forth from H to rejoining to form H2. Some gets away from the Sun and is cosmic rays.

    But H2 is an Atom and H is a fleeting subatomic particle.

    So can I prove Water is H4O from the data of Spectral lines of H2 is the same as deuterium, only slight difference is that the deuterium is a full fledged neutron not a makeshift proton+muon of H.

    I suspect that special trait of water freezing is a proof that Water is H4O. Because the 840MeV proton torus with muon inside doing the Faraday law acting as a makeshift neutron capacitor for the other 840MeV proton torus with muon inside, is
    where H2 gets that expansion characteristic.

    A neutron is a parallel plate capacitor and those plates can expand when frozen temperature occurs. As the temperature gets colder, those plates move further apart.

    Now does deuterium which truly has a full neutron, does it expand also when frozen?? If so, does it expand as much as H2 which is 2 protons with 2 muons inside?

    So comparing the freezing and expansion of the parallel plates of a neutron in deuterium with the freezing and expansion of one of the proton+muon that is acting as a makeshift neutron in H2.

    If I can numbers correlate the H2 expansion with the Deuterium expansion would be a alternative proof that Water is really H4O and not H2O.

    AP
    to
    So now on Blankenship's book "Molecular Mechanisms of Photosynthesis", 2014, page 134, shows The structure of ATP, ADP, AMP. And within that structure are OH hydroxyls.

    In New Chemistry, water is truly H4O, and where hydroxyls are now H2O. And we have first proof of this in the Figure 8.1 of Blankenship's "Chemical structure of ATP".

    For in the lower left corner of the diagram, Blankenship has a H+ all alone, (really a mindless error) and has P surrounded by O-, O-, O and OH. The OH is really H2O for hydroxyls are H2O and water itself is H4O, and that would leave that
    mindless H+ as being hydrogen Atom of H2.

    The world of physics and chemistry should drop what they are doing and weigh the electrolysis test tube of hydrogen and oxygen to discover the correct true formula of water is H4O.

    AP is total confident, becuase an Atom cannot exist if it has no capacitor structure such as a neutron, or one of the H in H2 acting as a neutron. I am totally confident that Water formula is truly H4O. And I need look only to methane of H4C, to
    realize that there is no HC, no H2C, no H3C, but starts with H4C, and that tells me water starts with H4O. Totally confident that Old Chemistry, Old Physics did electrolysis experiments and the moment they saw hydrogen test tube be 2x volume of oxygen
    test tube, they dropped their work and went out for a Danish and coffee break, rather than finish their work--- actual physics weighing of atomic mass units (not the Faraday electrolysis law for it does not apply to water).

    When water electrolysis is physics weighed, AP is confident that there are 4H per every one oxygen O. And that Water is truly H4O.

    AP, King of Science
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    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 8:56:57 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within the accuracy I need for weighing a test tube of oxygen then a test tube of hydrogen from water electrolysis.

    Now modern day physics and chemist experimenters can really do a marvelous job if they wanted to. For they could freeze the test tubes of oxygen and hydrogen to where they are liquid and compare liquids from water electrolysis.
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    to
    So, what AP is saying here is that we do electrolysis of water. We collect the two test tubes, one with oxygen the other with hydrogen.

    To prove Water is truly the formula H4O and not H2O we must weigh the masses of the two tubes to find that the ratio is 1 x 16amu to 4 x 1amu.

    The silly grotesque science error of the past was to look at volumes in the two test tubes-- "Hey-- the hydrogen is twice the volume of oxygen so the formula of water is H2O".

    No, way was that science good practice. For the correct formula of water needs to be measured by mass, by atomic mass units where Oxygen is 16amu and hydrogen is 1amu.

    I suspect a balance beam scale is good enough to see the hydrogen test tube will be 1/4 as massive as the oxygen test tube. To get within precision of electronic weighing scale of 0.00001 gram we just have to make a larger test tube of
    electrolysis of water.

    AP is betting that the readings will be hydrogen test tube 1/4 the mass of oxygen test tube proving Water formula is truly H4O.

    Old Physics and Old Chemistry is betting that the mass experiment will have the hydrogen test tube be 1/8 the mass of the oxygen test tube, proving Water formula is H2O.

    AP does not have these precision equipment to conduct an at-home experiment of this nature.
    AP
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    So, once Water is found to actually be H4O, not H2O, we move on to methane, and ask the same question of its hydrogen bonds. Is Methane really that of H8C and not H4C.

    Well, looking in the literature for anomalies to methane, I come across a arXiv "Low and high-temperature anomalies in the physical properties of solid methane "The anomalous behavior of thermodynamic, spectral, plastic, elastic and some other
    properties of solid methane is discussed near 20.48K and...

    AP wonders: if they can get methane to solid form, well, I am then hopeful that the mass of the molecule can be determined. Because if methane is truly H8C, that difference of H4 in atomic mass units would be very much noticeable difference.

    Chemistry Europe--
    "The Anomalous Deuterium Isotope Effect in the NMR Spectrum of Methane...

    P Vermeeren, 2023
    "The abnormally long and weak methylidyne C-H bond.."
    "The C-H bond of the methylidyne radical, CH*, is abnormally long and weak, even longer and..."

    AP asks, are these anomalies solved if we consider methane is actually H8C and not H4C?

    AP


    President: Christopher Eisgruber (physics)

    Princeton Univ physics dept

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    Thomas Gregor, David Gross, Edward Groth, Steven Gubser, Duncan Haldane, William Happer, John Hopfield, Andrew Houck, David Huse, Norman Jarosik, William Jones, Andrew Leifer, Elliot Lieb, Daniel Marlow, Peter Meyers, James Olsen, Lyman Page, James
    Peebles, Alexander Polyakov, Frans Pretorius, Michael Romalis, Joshua Shaevitz, A. Smith, Shivaji Sondhi, Suzanne Staggs, Paul Steinhardt, David Tank, Joseph Taylor, Christopher Tully, Herman Verlinde, Edward Witten

    My 250th published book.

    TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY; H2 is the hydrogen Atom and water is H4O, not H2O// Chemistry

    by Archimedes Plutonium (Author) (Amazon's Kindle)

    Prologue: This textbook is 1/2 research history and 1/2 factual textbook combined as one textbook. For many of the experiments described here-in have not yet been performed, such as water is really H4O not H2O. Written in a style of history research with
    date-time markers, and fact telling. And there are no problem sets. This book is intended for 1st year college. Until I include problem sets and exercises, I leave it to the professor and instructor to provide such. And also, chemistry is hugely a
    laboratory science, even more so than physics, so a first year college student in the lab to test whether Water is really H4O and not H2O is mighty educational.

    Preface: This is my 250th book of science, and the first of my textbooks on Teaching True Chemistry. I have completed the Teaching True Physics and the Teaching True Mathematics textbook series. But had not yet started on a Teaching True Chemistry
    textbook series. What got me started on this project is the fact that no chemistry textbook had the correct formula for water which is actually H4O and not H2O. Leaving the true formula for hydroxyl groups as H2O and not OH. But none of this is possible
    in Old Chemistry, Old Physics where they had do-nothing subatomic particles that sit around and do nothing or go whizzing around the outside of balls in a nucleus, in a mindless circling. Once every subatomic particle has a job, task, function, then
    water cannot be H2O but rather H4O. And a hydrogen atom cannot be H alone but is actually H2. H2 is not a molecule of hydrogen but a full fledged Atom, a single atom of hydrogen.

    Cover Picture: Sorry for the crude sketch work but chemistry and physics students are going to have to learn to make such sketches in a minute or less. Just as they make Lewis diagrams or ball & stick diagrams. My 4-5 minute sketch-work of the Water
    molecule H4O plus the subatomic particle H, and the hydrogen atom H2. Showing how one H is a proton torus with muon inside (blue color) doing the Faraday law. Protons are toruses with many windings. Protons are the coils in Faraday law while muons are
    the bar magnets. Neutrons are the capacitors as parallel plates, the outer skin cover of atoms.

    Product details
    • ASIN ‏ : ‎ B0CCLPTBDG
    • Publication date ‏ : ‎ July 21, 2023
    • Language ‏ : ‎ English
    • File size ‏ : ‎ 784 KB
    • Text-to-Speech ‏ : ‎ Enabled
    • Screen Reader ‏ : ‎ Supported
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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to whodat on Thu Jul 27 16:40:02 2023
    On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 05:46:20 UTC+10, whodat wrote:
    On 7/27/2023 1:19 PM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 5:07:55 AM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Thursday, 27 July 2023 at 09:52:04 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Thursday, 27 July 2023 at 04:53:44 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 10:10:09 AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
    On 2023-07-25 18:50:42 +0000, Jeffrey Rubard said:

    On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 9:52:37 AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
    On 2023-07-24 22:52:32 +0000, Sylvia Else said:>> > On 25-July-23 12:38
    am, Arindam Banerjee wrote:> >> On Monday, 24 July 2023 at 19:44:35 >>>>>>> UTC+8, Sylvia Else wrote:> >>> On 16-July-23 7:37 am, Arindam Banerjee
    wrote:> >>>> On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 20:45:18 UTC+10, Arindam >>>>>>> Banerjee wrote:> >>>>> On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 18:43:05 UTC+10, >>>>>>> corella wrote:> >>>>>>
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-14/india-to-launch-moon-rocket-chandrayaan-3/102583926>
    How will the mercury stay in place in space?> >>> >> >>>>>>> Experts will devise appropriate methods. Technical issue, that.> >> >
    You're presupposing that a solution exists - inventing a problem for> >
    someone else to solve.> >> >> Mercury is highly cohesive and that will
    help in far outer space.> >> >> >> >> >> My insight is that this will
    work extremely well in far outer space.> >> On high altitude say at 100
    Km gravity will work.> >> >> >>>> >>> What will the mercury do when >>>>>>> large currents pass through it?> >>> >> Conduct nicely. (No oxidation
    will be allowed in the evacuated spaces> >> where the engine will be >>>>>>> kept.)> >> > You miss the point. Your apparatus uses the interaction >>>>>>> between> > electric currents and magnetic fields. What makes you think
    that the> > mercury won't become involved in that?> >> >>> >> Let us >>>>>>> agree that I have at least made a new invention.
    Why would Sylvia (or any other sane person) agree with that? It's a> >>>>>>> matter between you and the Australian patent office.

    And not the USPTO?
    Unless he has moved (and I confess I haven't followed his movements) >>>>> he's in Melbourne.
    --
    "This is a hoax, right?"
    Continue with your headless chook perambulations, keep on flapping.
    Well, representing the topless heights of the Western intellect, what do we have here to counter me in this most open, global, unique forum? Headless chooks, extraordinary incompetents, surly creatures, freaks, imbeciles etc.

    "You're getting too stupid for your own good, here."
    Thus squawks the height of US intellect available publicly for free.
    He has been too stupid for his own good everywhere for quite a long
    time.
    Whodumbo, what is the slope of my garden shed that allows the armature to run down the rails with the force from gravity?

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  • From Paul Alsing@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Thu Jul 27 18:19:02 2023
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 4:40:06 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 05:46:20 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    He has been too stupid for his own good everywhere for quite a long
    time.

    Whodumbo, what is the slope of my garden shed that allows the armature to run down the rails with the force from gravity?

    Arindam, why don't you seal your membership in the Hall of Fame for Complete Dumbfucks by telling us again just why the core of our Sun is freezing? This should be good for a laugh from anyone who is new here! Go ahead, it is always a laugh to read what
    you have to say!

    I will say in advance that my dead dog knows more physics than you do!

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  • From whodat@21:1/5 to Paul Alsing on Thu Jul 27 23:01:35 2023
    On 7/27/2023 8:19 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 4:40:06 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 05:46:20 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    He has been too stupid for his own good everywhere for quite a long
    time.

    Whodumbo, what is the slope of my garden shed that allows the armature to run down the rails with the force from gravity?

    Arindam, why don't you seal your membership in the Hall of Fame for Complete Dumbfucks by telling us again just why the core of our Sun is freezing? This should be good for a laugh from anyone who is new here! Go ahead, it is always a laugh to read
    what you have to say!

    I will say in advance that my dead dog knows more physics than you do!

    Your dead dog knows more about everything than Arindam Banerjee.

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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 27 22:35:20 2023
    On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 14:01:44 UTC+10, whodat
    (after gulping prodigious quantities of laxatives obtained from Archie)
    wrote:

    Your dead dog knows more about everything than Arindam Banerjee.

    twisting it out with great difficulty.

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  • From Paul Alsing@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Thu Jul 27 23:00:48 2023
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 10:32:51 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 11:19:05 UTC+10, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 4:40:06 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 05:46:20 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    He has been too stupid for his own good everywhere for quite a long time.

    Whodumbo, what is the slope of my garden shed that allows the armature to run down the rails with the force from gravity?
    Arindam, why don't you seal your membership in the Hall of Fame for Complete Dumbfucks
    I have no wish to win the Nobel Prize for Physics. Having stupid whodumbos for devotees - ugh, what a thought!
    by telling us again just why the core of our Sun is freezing?
    I have done that many a time. Lazy robot, go find out the links.
    This should be good for a laugh from anyone who is new here! Go ahead, it is always a laugh to read what you have to say!
    Following my 2022 video films, constipational crises has overtaken their laughter.
    How is the armature getting accelerated along the rails? As there is still some honesty left in the newbies, they will not accept the whodat-Moroney theory that the table/floor is inclined so that it moves by gravity and also by my single finger.
    Well then, what is happening????
    Is the armature getting accelerated by magic?
    Are quarks, bosons, strings, photons, gravitons, dark matter, black holes, etc. involved in this???
    The Most Highly Esteemed Complete Dumbfucks are dumb about this!!!!! Rotating-head pea-soup emitting robots like Alsing cannot understand that.

    Beyond its programming, so the robot Alsing will resort to its exception handling pea-soup emitting routine, produced below:
    I will say in advance that my dead dog knows more physics than you do!

    Actually the late Bertram Wilberforce Wooster (Bertie) knew more genuine physics than the Most Highly Esteemed Complete Dumbfucks.
    Bertie was such a friend, companion and encourager in the early days of my discovery of the formula e=0.5mVVN(N-k) and efforts of its development by literary and engineering means.

    Yes, that is all fine and dandy... but what about that frozen solar core? A lot of newbies here are frothing at the mouth in anticipation of your theory... you dont want to didappointhem, do you?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Paul Alsing on Thu Jul 27 22:32:48 2023
    On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 11:19:05 UTC+10, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 4:40:06 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 05:46:20 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    He has been too stupid for his own good everywhere for quite a long time.

    Whodumbo, what is the slope of my garden shed that allows the armature to run down the rails with the force from gravity?
    Arindam, why don't you seal your membership in the Hall of Fame for Complete Dumbfucks

    I have no wish to win the Nobel Prize for Physics. Having stupid whodumbos for devotees - ugh, what a thought!

    by telling us again just why the core of our Sun is freezing?

    I have done that many a time. Lazy robot, go find out the links.

    This should be good for a laugh from anyone who is new here! Go ahead, it is always a laugh to read what you have to say!

    Following my 2022 video films, constipational crises has overtaken their laughter.
    How is the armature getting accelerated along the rails? As there is still some honesty left in the newbies, they will not accept the whodat-Moroney theory that the table/floor is inclined so that it moves by gravity and also by my single finger.
    Well then, what is happening????
    Is the armature getting accelerated by magic?
    Are quarks, bosons, strings, photons, gravitons, dark matter, black holes, etc. involved in this???
    The Most Highly Esteemed Complete Dumbfucks are dumb about this!!!!! Rotating-head pea-soup emitting robots like Alsing cannot understand that.

    Beyond its programming, so the robot Alsing will resort to its exception handling pea-soup emitting routine, produced below:

    I will say in advance that my dead dog knows more physics than you do!

    Actually the late Bertram Wilberforce Wooster (Bertie) knew more genuine physics than the Most Highly Esteemed Complete Dumbfucks.
    Bertie was such a friend, companion and encourager in the early days of my discovery of the formula e=0.5mVVN(N-k) and efforts of its development by literary and engineering means.

    Cheers,
    Arindam Banerjee

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Paul Alsing on Fri Jul 28 00:07:13 2023
    On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 16:00:53 UTC+10, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 10:32:51 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 11:19:05 UTC+10, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 4:40:06 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 05:46:20 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    He has been too stupid for his own good everywhere for quite a long time.

    Whodumbo, what is the slope of my garden shed that allows the armature to run down the rails with the force from gravity?
    Arindam, why don't you seal your membership in the Hall of Fame for Complete Dumbfucks
    I have no wish to win the Nobel Prize for Physics. Having stupid whodumbos for devotees - ugh, what a thought!
    by telling us again just why the core of our Sun is freezing?
    I have done that many a time. Lazy robot, go find out the links.
    This should be good for a laugh from anyone who is new here! Go ahead, it is always a laugh to read what you have to say!
    Following my 2022 video films, constipational crises has overtaken their laughter.
    How is the armature getting accelerated along the rails? As there is still some honesty left in the newbies, they will not accept the whodat-Moroney theory that the table/floor is inclined so that it moves by gravity and also by my single finger.
    Well then, what is happening????
    Is the armature getting accelerated by magic?
    Are quarks, bosons, strings, photons, gravitons, dark matter, black holes, etc. involved in this???
    The Most Highly Esteemed Complete Dumbfucks are dumb about this!!!!! Rotating-head pea-soup emitting robots like Alsing cannot understand that.

    Beyond its programming, so the robot Alsing will resort to its exception handling pea-soup emitting routine, produced below:
    I will say in advance that my dead dog knows more physics than you do!

    Actually the late Bertram Wilberforce Wooster (Bertie) knew more genuine physics than the Most Highly Esteemed Complete Dumbfucks.
    Bertie was such a friend, companion and encourager in the early days of my discovery of the formula e=0.5mVVN(N-k) and efforts of its development by literary and engineering means.
    Yes, that is all fine and dandy... but what about that frozen solar core? A lot of newbies here are frothing at the mouth in anticipation of your theory... you dont want to didappointhem, do you?
    So why not find and post the links, Alsing? Be a good robot, now.
    If you cannot as you got rusted, let me know.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Jul 28 13:36:59 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    I heard dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...is still alive!

    It was kind of dark, so i couldn't see him well...but i recognize his voice..and it was definitely him,,,dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin).

    I guess he is getting ready for...D-Day!



    On Sun, 09 Jul 2023 12:28:46 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    I heard, (but i don't know if it's true)

    the Wagner guys are going to take Poland.


    Now, it's the best time to take Poland while yous have a pussy for
    President of the United States.


    The next President might not allow it.


    Everyone must always grab an ...opportunity.


    Biden will announced he will put sanctions on dat Wagner guy...cut off
    his PayPal account.


    Are Polish girls pretty????



    i wan some of dat!



    How many polish people does it take to change a light bulb?
    100, one to hold the bulb and ninety nine to spin the house.











    On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 21:05:41 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    ...and while the two bulldogs are
    fighting under the rug...

    now it's a good time for
    the little people of Russia to
    arm themselves and take Putin out.

    dat wagner guy would forgive them.

    Now is the time to stick a
    water hose down Putin's throat
    while he is already drowning.

    finish him off..



    The Starmaker wrote:

    So, Putin tells dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...
    "Don't worry, I'm dropping all treason charges and all dat other stuff". >>>
    Then Putin tells his friend.."KILL DAT MOTHERFUCKER!!!!"

    and his friend sez, "What about his all mercenary soldiers?"

    Putin sez, "Tell them to come in and they can all join my army."

    Then .."KILL ALL THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!"

    two bulldogs under a rug....

    who will come out..alive?

    The Starmaker wrote:

    My advise to this Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...stay aways from
    ...windows.

    The Starmaker wrote:

    if you people know anything about the mafia...
    you know Putin needs to rub out dat wagner guy, otherwise...

    EVERYBODY WILL WANT TO KNOCK OFF PUTIN!

    One of them has to die...soon.

    Which one is it going to be????

    (the wagner guy already made his move and now has the popular vote)

    dis is not a game of chess..

    The Starmaker wrote:

    I heard the FBI needs your help..

    they are looking for this guy...anybody seen him around?

    https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif

    looks a liitle familiar..

    there is a reward out for him..$250,000.02

    https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif

    i tink i know where dis guy lives..

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Of course Putin is a chicken...he's got a lot more to lose than dat >>> > > > > purse snatcher Wagner.

    One of those two has to...die.

    Which one are you rooting for? da gangster or da gangster?

    Why doesn't da Big Guy take them both out?

    well, we'll deal with wat ever gangster survies....

    Biden gots his own Crime Family to look after.

    Trump has to go after all the Crime Families in Washington!

    (luckly Trump has Rudy Giuliani to consult him...Rudy is an expert on
    Crime Families!)

    It's Kill or be Killed.

    You wanna make an omelete you gotta break some eggs.

    As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster. ...

    The Starmaker wrote:

    This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is trying to kill Putin, and >>> > > > > > Putin is trying to kill This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin).

    Who is going to win? The Gambino Family or the Bonano Family?

    Somebody is going to get hit on 46th Street...

    Mob Wars.

    Who gets to own the gas station on Putin Avenue?

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Looks to me..
    This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect >>> > > > > > > President for Russia...he's strickly criminal. And

    looks to me
    he is going to vote himself in...
    and knock off Putin.

    Mob style.

    It's a Mafia state, why not?

    you gotta do it wit style.

    On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 23:36:35 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian >>> > > > > > > >> > > >
    https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C

    Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!

    Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...

    Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)

    (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
    In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
    While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
    There wasn�t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
    In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.

    Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
    the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
    a �beautiful� coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
    the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
    by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
    One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.

    "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?

    This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal.

    He's Putin's kind of guy...

    Do you know what "Putin's kind of guy..." means? Like a John Gotti
    underboss.

    Most of yous don't understand Putin and Russia.

    Russia in fact is a Mafia State. A country run by The Mafia. It's a
    Mafia country. Run by the Mafia.

    If you need a little more understanding...

    By Garry Kasparov
    When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question
    was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of
    Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its
    behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised
    at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions.

    Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this
    looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a
    businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign
    company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy
    marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as
    weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to
    terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is
    what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin
    regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of
    the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind
    the medieval red walls.

    Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part
    oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is
    partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in
    which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over
    this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain
    entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks.

    But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can
    recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by
    Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is
    of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for
    now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to
    the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario
    Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian
    government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr.
    Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start,
    but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian."

    The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is
    business, what is government, and what is criminal -- it's all there in
    Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees
    elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and
    Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin
    government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the
    intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep
    the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia.

    If a member of the inner circle goes against the Capo, his life is
    forfeit. Once Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky wanted to go
    straight and run his Yukos oil company as a legitimate corporation and
    not as another cog in Mr. Putin's KGB, Inc. He quickly found himself in
    a Siberian prison, his company dismantled and looted, and its pieces
    absorbed by the state mafia apparatus of Rosneft and Gazprom.

    The Yukos case has become a model. Private companies are absorbed into
    the state while at the same time the assets of the state companies move
    into private accounts.

    Alexander Litvinenko was a KGB agent who broke the loyalty code by
    fleeing to Britain. Worse, he violated the law of omert&agrave; by going
    to the press and even publishing books about the dirty deeds of Mr.
    Putin and his foot soldiers. Instead of being taken fishing in the
    old-fashioned Godfather style, he was killed in London in the first
    recorded case of nuclear terrorism. Now the Kremlin is refusing to hand
    over the main suspect in the murder.

    Mr. Putin can't understand Britain doing potential harm to its business
    interests over one human life. That's an alien concept. In his world,
    everything is negotiable. Morals and principles are just chips on the
    table in the Kremlin's game. There is no mere misunderstanding in the
    Litvinenko case; there are two different languages being spoken.

    In the civilized world, certain things are sacrosanct. Human life is not
    traded at the same table where business and diplomacy are discussed. But
    for Mr. Putin, it's a true no-limits game. Kosovo, the missile shield,
    pipeline deals, the Iranian nuclear program and democratic rights are
    all just cards to be played.



    Now, do you know who Mikhail Khodorkovsky is? He was head of the Jewish Mafia in Russia.

    When Putin got rid of Mikhail Khodorkovsky...all the other top Jewish Mafia guys ran to Israel.








    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge
    the unchallengeable.
    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, >>> > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, >>> > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, >>> > and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Fri Jul 28 13:49:45 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Putin probably told dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...

    "If I wanted you dead, you would be dead already."




    The Starmaker wrote:

    I heard dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...is still alive!

    It was kind of dark, so i couldn't see him well...but i recognize his voice..and it was definitely him,,,dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin).

    I guess he is getting ready for...D-Day!

    On Sun, 09 Jul 2023 12:28:46 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    I heard, (but i don't know if it's true)

    the Wagner guys are going to take Poland.


    Now, it's the best time to take Poland while yous have a pussy for >President of the United States.


    The next President might not allow it.


    Everyone must always grab an ...opportunity.


    Biden will announced he will put sanctions on dat Wagner guy...cut off
    his PayPal account.


    Are Polish girls pretty????



    i wan some of dat!



    How many polish people does it take to change a light bulb?
    100, one to hold the bulb and ninety nine to spin the house.











    On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 21:05:41 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    ...and while the two bulldogs are
    fighting under the rug...

    now it's a good time for
    the little people of Russia to
    arm themselves and take Putin out.

    dat wagner guy would forgive them.

    Now is the time to stick a
    water hose down Putin's throat
    while he is already drowning.

    finish him off..



    The Starmaker wrote:

    So, Putin tells dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...
    "Don't worry, I'm dropping all treason charges and all dat other stuff". >>>
    Then Putin tells his friend.."KILL DAT MOTHERFUCKER!!!!"

    and his friend sez, "What about his all mercenary soldiers?"

    Putin sez, "Tell them to come in and they can all join my army."

    Then .."KILL ALL THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!"

    two bulldogs under a rug....

    who will come out..alive?

    The Starmaker wrote:

    My advise to this Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...stay aways from
    ...windows.

    The Starmaker wrote:

    if you people know anything about the mafia...
    you know Putin needs to rub out dat wagner guy, otherwise...

    EVERYBODY WILL WANT TO KNOCK OFF PUTIN!

    One of them has to die...soon.

    Which one is it going to be????

    (the wagner guy already made his move and now has the popular vote) >>> > >
    dis is not a game of chess..

    The Starmaker wrote:

    I heard the FBI needs your help..

    they are looking for this guy...anybody seen him around?

    https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif

    looks a liitle familiar..

    there is a reward out for him..$250,000.02

    https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif

    i tink i know where dis guy lives..

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Of course Putin is a chicken...he's got a lot more to lose than dat
    purse snatcher Wagner.

    One of those two has to...die.

    Which one are you rooting for? da gangster or da gangster?

    Why doesn't da Big Guy take them both out?

    well, we'll deal with wat ever gangster survies....

    Biden gots his own Crime Family to look after.

    Trump has to go after all the Crime Families in Washington!

    (luckly Trump has Rudy Giuliani to consult him...Rudy is an expert on
    Crime Families!)

    It's Kill or be Killed.

    You wanna make an omelete you gotta break some eggs.

    As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster. ...

    The Starmaker wrote:

    This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is trying to kill Putin, and
    Putin is trying to kill This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin). >>> > > > > >
    Who is going to win? The Gambino Family or the Bonano Family? >>> > > > > >
    Somebody is going to get hit on 46th Street...

    Mob Wars.

    Who gets to own the gas station on Putin Avenue?

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Looks to me..
    This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect
    President for Russia...he's strickly criminal. And

    looks to me
    he is going to vote himself in...
    and knock off Putin.

    Mob style.

    It's a Mafia state, why not?

    you gotta do it wit style.

    On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 23:36:35 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian

    https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C

    Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!

    Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...

    Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)

    (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
    In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
    While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
    There wasn�t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
    In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.

    Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
    the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
    a �beautiful� coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
    the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
    by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
    One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.

    "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?

    This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal.

    He's Putin's kind of guy...

    Do you know what "Putin's kind of guy..." means? Like a John Gotti
    underboss.

    Most of yous don't understand Putin and Russia.

    Russia in fact is a Mafia State. A country run by The Mafia. It's a
    Mafia country. Run by the Mafia.

    If you need a little more understanding...

    By Garry Kasparov
    When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question
    was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of
    Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its
    behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised
    at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions.

    Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this
    looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a
    businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign
    company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy
    marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as
    weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to
    terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is
    what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin
    regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of
    the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind
    the medieval red walls.

    Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part
    oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is
    partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in
    which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over
    this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain
    entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks.

    But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can
    recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by
    Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is
    of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for
    now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to
    the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario
    Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian
    government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr.
    Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start,
    but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian."

    The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is
    business, what is government, and what is criminal -- it's all there in
    Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees
    elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and
    Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin
    government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the
    intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep
    the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia.

    If a member of the inner circle goes against the Capo, his life is
    forfeit. Once Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky wanted to go
    straight and run his Yukos oil company as a legitimate corporation and
    not as another cog in Mr. Putin's KGB, Inc. He quickly found himself in
    a Siberian prison, his company dismantled and looted, and its pieces
    absorbed by the state mafia apparatus of Rosneft and Gazprom.

    The Yukos case has become a model. Private companies are absorbed into
    the state while at the same time the assets of the state companies move
    into private accounts.

    Alexander Litvinenko was a KGB agent who broke the loyalty code by
    fleeing to Britain. Worse, he violated the law of omert&agrave; by going
    to the press and even publishing books about the dirty deeds of Mr.
    Putin and his foot soldiers. Instead of being taken fishing in the
    old-fashioned Godfather style, he was killed in London in the first
    recorded case of nuclear terrorism. Now the Kremlin is refusing to hand
    over the main suspect in the murder.

    Mr. Putin can't understand Britain doing potential harm to its business
    interests over one human life. That's an alien concept. In his world,
    everything is negotiable. Morals and principles are just chips on the
    table in the Kremlin's game. There is no mere misunderstanding in the
    Litvinenko case; there are two different languages being spoken.

    In the civilized world, certain things are sacrosanct. Human life is not
    traded at the same table where business and diplomacy are discussed. But
    for Mr. Putin, it's a true no-limits game. Kosovo, the missile shield,
    pipeline deals, the Iranian nuclear program and democratic rights are
    all just cards to be played.



    Now, do you know who Mikhail Khodorkovsky is? He was head of the Jewish Mafia in Russia.

    When Putin got rid of Mikhail Khodorkovsky...all the other top Jewish Mafia guys ran to Israel.








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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 28 13:49:01 2023
    2-Can_King Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden,Dr.Markus Hennrich,Dr.Tony Hansson,Dr.Tommy Ohlsson, Stockholm Univ --Please- please-step into the Stockholm Univ physics or chemistry lab and weigh the mass of Electrolysis Water, proving Water is H4O not H2O. Once
    weighed the hydrogen test tube should be 1/4 the weight of the oxygen test tube for H4O but if mainstream chemistry is correct then 1/8 atomic mass units. My weighing scales do not go up to 0.00001 gram, and sure that Stockholm has far better precision.
    Thanks , much appreciated, especially the King of Sweden.



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    Markus the horsefly at a picnic with "young-uns" present. Does a horsefly spam???
    On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 12:12:39 PM UTC-5, Markus Klyver wrote:
    Yeah, you shouldn't do math at all. Or for that matter, any science.
    AP says: what, is this little peon of Sweden, Markus, saying who and who not to weigh a water molecule???

    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 3:34:51 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
    onsdag 23 januari 2019 kl. 07:48:24 UTC+1 skrev Zelos Malum:
    Den tisdag 22 januari 2019 kl. 00:02:50 UTC+1 skrev Archimedes Plutonium:
    _Is Zelos Malum the tutor of mathematics to King Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden? And if so, did Malum teach the King wrongly that the ellipse is a conic when it never was so? (see proof below)

    Can_King Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden,Dr.Tony Hansson, Dr.Markus Hennrich, Dr.Tommy Ohlsson, Stockholm Univ --Please- please-step into the Stockholm Univ physics or chemistry lab and weigh the mass of Electrolysis Water, proving Water is H4O not H2O. Once
    weighed the hydrogen test tube should be 1/4 the weight of the oxygen test tube for H4O but if mainstream chemistry is correct then 1/8 atomic mass units. My weighing scales do not go up to 0.00001 gram, and sure that Stockholm has far better precision.
    Thanks , much appreciated, especially the King of Sweden.
    On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 12:12:39 PM UTC-5, Markus Klyver wrote:
    Yeah, you shouldn't do math at all. Or for that matter, any science.


    tsk tsk tsk Markus cry baby, for some math is used in electrolysis


    Stockholm Univ physics
    Tony Hansson, Markus Hennrich, Tommy Ohlsson, Paul Crutzen,

    Swedish physics, et al
    Bo Thide, Max Tegmark, Cecilia Jarlskog, Lars Bergstrom, Lars Samuelson Anders Flodstrom, Hans Ryde, Anders Barany, Gunnar von Heijne
    Claes-Goran Granqvist, Joakim Edsjo, Carl Falthammar, Sven Hansson, Arne Kaijser
    Pres. Sigbritt Karlsson (KTH)




    Spam mill echo chamber, that is Markus and John Gabriel a decades long spammer of sci.math, yet they fail math and logic and science.

    The endless and worthless Spam Mill Echo Chamber of John Gabriel with Markus barking every day-- play act spamming to keep their pollution on front page.


    +Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within

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    +Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within

    3m views Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium


    Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within the accuracy I need for weighing a test tube of oxygen then a test tube of hydrogen from water electrolysis.


    Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium

    In Old Chemistry and Old Physics, their subatomic particles were do nothing and no function and no job particles that sit around as balls or whiz around the outside of balls doing nothing but pointless circling.

    In New Physics and New Chemistry-- All is Atom and Atoms are nothing but electricity and magnetism. Every subatomic particle has a job a function a purpose as to the Laws of Electromagnetism--- Faraday law, Coulomb law, Ampere law, Capacitor law.

    A proton is a torus of 840MeV with 840 windings, while the muon is the true electron of Atoms and is encased inside the proton torus thrusting through and producing electricity-- magnetic monopoles.

    The neutron of Atoms is a parallel plate capacitor storing the electricity of proton+muon and is skin cover on the outside of the proton torus in the form of parallel plates.

    Can hydrogen be a Atom if it is just a proton+muon? No, all atoms require to have a capacitor such as at least one neutron. Thus the Hydrogen Atom is H2 where you have 2 proton+muon where 1 of the 2 proton+muon acts like a neutron to the other proton+
    muon. Thus, water molecule is not H2O but rather is H4O.

    AP is waiting for experimental chemists and physicists to prove him correct that Water is H4O.

    In the meantime we have Hydroxyl which in Old Chemistry, especially Biology is OH, while AP says that is wrong and that is really H2O.

    Now glycerine is a hydroxyl with formula C3H8O3. And what I am thinking at this moment, is that hydroxyls will be an easier proof that Water is truly H4O, rather than wait for experimentalists to actually "weigh the electrolysis test tubes of oxygen
    and hydrogen".

    You see, with H4O as water, glycerine is C3(2 waters)O with an extra oxygen. If Water is H2O then glycerine is C3(4 waters) deficit O. It is missing an oxygen if water is H2O.

    The reason glycerine is so effective as a skin ointment is because it has glycerine, the extra O oxygen. If water were H2O, then glycerine would be a missing oxygen and not a skin lotion that works, but makes skin even more dry.

    Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium

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    --- quoting in part from source-- Study.com ---
    Perhaps there is only two Faraday laws on Electrolysis. I am looking at the one that states: Faraday's first law of electrolysis relates the mass of a substance liberated (or deposited) at an electrode to the electric charge used (Q). A
    proportionality constant Z can be used:

    m = ZQ = (E/96485)(Q)

    m = mass, Q = total charge rewritten as Q = I*t amperes x time in seconds.

    This website gives an example: 5amps passed through molten Sodium Chloride for 3 hours. Calculate the mass of Sodium. E=23/1.

    m = (23/96485) (5) (3*60*60) approx 12.87 grams.

    --- end quoting in part from source-- Study.com ---

    Now has such a experiment been performed on Water to see how much atomic mass of hydrogen and of oxygen results??? If AP is correct, the formula of water is H4O, if Old Physics, Old Chemistry is correct the formula is H2O. So which is it???

    AP


    No, sorry no, Faraday's Law of Electrolysis is not going to tell the correct mass of hydrogen.

    Reading Wikipedia on Faraday's Electrolysis law.

    --- quoting Wikipedia ---
    A monovalent ion requires 1 electron for discharge, a divalent ion requires 2 electrons for discharge and so on. Thus, if x electrons flow,
    x/v atoms are discharged.

    So the mass m discharged is

    m= (xM)/vN_A) = (QM)/(eN_A *v) = (QM) / (vF)
    where
    N_A is the Avogadro constant;
    Q = xe is the total charge, equal to the number of electrons (x) times the elementary charge e;
    F is the Faraday constant.
    --- end quoting Wikipedia ---

    No, the Faraday law of Electrolysis will not work on water with a correct answer, because H is not an atom but H2 is an Atom. And where one of the proton+muon converts to being a neutron to the other proton+muon.

    So if Faraday's law of Electrolysis was applied to water, thinking it would deliver a true answer is mistaken because the one H converts to neutron.

    So it appears that we need to directly measure the test tube of oxygen and the test tube of hydrogen by a direct mass measurement.

    AP
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    I doubt we can measure a test tube of hydrogen or test tube of oxygen, too small to determine the mass on some sort of weight scale.

    But here is a possible lucrative idea. We should be able to get pure deuterium water. Then run the electrolysis. Collect the test tubes.

    Now have some sort of balancing beam weight scale. Place the regular water of hydrogen test tube on one side, and place the deuterium water hydrogen test tube on other side. If they stay balanced, then AP is correct and Water is really H4O.

    AP
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    Cosmic Rays from Sun

    90% of Sun's cosmic rays are 840MeV proton+muon inside = H. The hydrogen Atom is H2 where one of the H proton+muon converts to being a neutron.

    When these proton+muon hit Earth atmosphere, they can turn into pions and muons.

    I commented that H alone is a subatomic particle and that makes sense in the idea that Sun's cosmic rays are 90% these proton+muon.

    Now is interstellar hydrogen H2 and intergalactic hydrogen H2 formed when one H cosmic ray joins up with another H cosmic ray to form H2 atom?

    Is this how we get H2 in outer space? From the splitting apart of H2 into H cosmic rays?

    So how much of the Sun's hydrogen is H2 and how much is H ready to join with another H and reform back into H2. Probably little of the Sun's H is H alone, and the vast majority of the Sun's hydrogen is H2.

    How much deuterium in the Sun? And it is a higher percentage than the deuterium in water on Earth?

    AP
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    Water is the only known non-metallic substance that expands when if freezes; its density decreases and it expands approximately 9% by volume. (Source: web Lunar and Planetary Institute)

    I have to wait for experimental chemists and physicists to weigh the mass of test tubes from electrolysis, as to the verdict-- water is H4O.

    But until that news comes in, I will look for other means of proof.

    So AP says that the H2 is not a molecule but is the hydrogen Atom itself, where one proton+muon converts to a neutron and capacitates the other proton+muon which undergo the Faraday law.

    There are subatomic particles of H in the form of Cosmic Rays from the Sun, but most of the Sun's hydrogen is H2, and flips back and forth from H to rejoining to form H2. Some gets away from the Sun and is cosmic rays.

    But H2 is an Atom and H is a fleeting subatomic particle.

    So can I prove Water is H4O from the data of Spectral lines of H2 is the same as deuterium, only slight difference is that the deuterium is a full fledged neutron not a makeshift proton+muon of H.

    I suspect that special trait of water freezing is a proof that Water is H4O. Because the 840MeV proton torus with muon inside doing the Faraday law acting as a makeshift neutron capacitor for the other 840MeV proton torus with muon inside, is where
    H2 gets that expansion characteristic.

    A neutron is a parallel plate capacitor and those plates can expand when frozen temperature occurs. As the temperature gets colder, those plates move further apart.

    Now does deuterium which truly has a full neutron, does it expand also when frozen?? If so, does it expand as much as H2 which is 2 protons with 2 muons inside?

    So comparing the freezing and expansion of the parallel plates of a neutron in deuterium with the freezing and expansion of one of the proton+muon that is acting as a makeshift neutron in H2.

    If I can numbers correlate the H2 expansion with the Deuterium expansion would be a alternative proof that Water is really H4O and not H2O.

    AP
    to
    So now on Blankenship's book "Molecular Mechanisms of Photosynthesis", 2014, page 134, shows The structure of ATP, ADP, AMP. And within that structure are OH hydroxyls.

    In New Chemistry, water is truly H4O, and where hydroxyls are now H2O. And we have first proof of this in the Figure 8.1 of Blankenship's "Chemical structure of ATP".

    For in the lower left corner of the diagram, Blankenship has a H+ all alone, (really a mindless error) and has P surrounded by O-, O-, O and OH. The OH is really H2O for hydroxyls are H2O and water itself is H4O, and that would leave that mindless H+
    as being hydrogen Atom of H2.

    The world of physics and chemistry should drop what they are doing and weigh the electrolysis test tube of hydrogen and oxygen to discover the correct true formula of water is H4O.

    AP is total confident, becuase an Atom cannot exist if it has no capacitor structure such as a neutron, or one of the H in H2 acting as a neutron. I am totally confident that Water formula is truly H4O. And I need look only to methane of H4C, to
    realize that there is no HC, no H2C, no H3C, but starts with H4C, and that tells me water starts with H4O. Totally confident that Old Chemistry, Old Physics did electrolysis experiments and the moment they saw hydrogen test tube be 2x volume of oxygen
    test tube, they dropped their work and went out for a Danish and coffee break, rather than finish their work--- actual physics weighing of atomic mass units (not the Faraday electrolysis law for it does not apply to water).

    When water electrolysis is physics weighed, AP is confident that there are 4H per every one oxygen O. And that Water is truly H4O.

    AP, King of Science
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    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 8:56:57 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within the accuracy I need for weighing a test tube of oxygen then a test tube of hydrogen from water electrolysis.

    Now modern day physics and chemist experimenters can really do a marvelous job if they wanted to. For they could freeze the test tubes of oxygen and hydrogen to where they are liquid and compare liquids from water electrolysis.
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    So, what AP is saying here is that we do electrolysis of water. We collect the two test tubes, one with oxygen the other with hydrogen.

    To prove Water is truly the formula H4O and not H2O we must weigh the masses of the two tubes to find that the ratio is 1 x 16amu to 4 x 1amu.

    The silly grotesque science error of the past was to look at volumes in the two test tubes-- "Hey-- the hydrogen is twice the volume of oxygen so the formula of water is H2O".

    No, way was that science good practice. For the correct formula of water needs to be measured by mass, by atomic mass units where Oxygen is 16amu and hydrogen is 1amu.

    I suspect a balance beam scale is good enough to see the hydrogen test tube will be 1/4 as massive as the oxygen test tube. To get within precision of electronic weighing scale of 0.00001 gram we just have to make a larger test tube of electrolysis
    of water.

    AP is betting that the readings will be hydrogen test tube 1/4 the mass of oxygen test tube proving Water formula is truly H4O.

    Old Physics and Old Chemistry is betting that the mass experiment will have the hydrogen test tube be 1/8 the mass of the oxygen test tube, proving Water formula is H2O.

    AP does not have these precision equipment to conduct an at-home experiment of this nature.

    AP
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    So, once Water is found to actually be H4O, not H2O, we move on to methane, and ask the same question of its hydrogen bonds. Is Methane really that of H8C and not H4C.

    Well, looking in the literature for anomalies to methane, I come across a arXiv "Low and high-temperature anomalies in the physical properties of solid methane "The anomalous behavior of thermodynamic, spectral, plastic, elastic and some other
    properties of solid methane is discussed near 20.48K and...

    AP wonders: if they can get methane to solid form, well, I am then hopeful that the mass of the molecule can be determined. Because if methane is truly H8C, that difference of H4 in atomic mass units would be very much noticeable difference.

    Chemistry Europe--
    "The Anomalous Deuterium Isotope Effect in the NMR Spectrum of Methane...

    P Vermeeren, 2023
    "The abnormally long and weak methylidyne C-H bond.."
    "The C-H bond of the methylidyne radical, CH*, is abnormally long and weak, even longer and..."

    AP asks, are these anomalies solved if we consider methane is actually H8C and not H4C?

    AP
    My 250th published book.

    TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY; H2 is the hydrogen Atom and water is H4O, not H2O// Chemistry

    by Archimedes Plutonium (Author) (Amazon's Kindle)

    Prologue: This textbook is 1/2 research history and 1/2 factual textbook combined as one textbook. For many of the experiments described here-in have not yet been performed, such as water is really H4O not H2O. Written in a style of history research with
    date-time markers, and fact telling. And there are no problem sets. This book is intended for 1st year college. Until I include problem sets and exercises, I leave it to the professor and instructor to provide such. And also, chemistry is hugely a
    laboratory science, even more so than physics, so a first year college student in the lab to test whether Water is really H4O and not H2O is mighty educational.

    Preface: This is my 250th book of science, and the first of my textbooks on Teaching True Chemistry. I have completed the Teaching True Physics and the Teaching True Mathematics textbook series. But had not yet started on a Teaching True Chemistry
    textbook series. What got me started on this project is the fact that no chemistry textbook had the correct formula for water which is actually H4O and not H2O. Leaving the true formula for hydroxyl groups as H2O and not OH. But none of this is possible
    in Old Chemistry, Old Physics where they had do-nothing subatomic particles that sit around and do nothing or go whizzing around the outside of balls in a nucleus, in a mindless circling. Once every subatomic particle has a job, task, function, then
    water cannot be H2O but rather H4O. And a hydrogen atom cannot be H alone but is actually H2. H2 is not a molecule of hydrogen but a full fledged Atom, a single atom of hydrogen.

    Cover Picture: Sorry for the crude sketch work but chemistry and physics students are going to have to learn to make such sketches in a minute or less. Just as they make Lewis diagrams or ball & stick diagrams. My 4-5 minute sketch-work of the Water
    molecule H4O plus the subatomic particle H, and the hydrogen atom H2. Showing how one H is a proton torus with muon inside (blue color) doing the Faraday law. Protons are toruses with many windings. Protons are the coils in Faraday law while muons are
    the bar magnets. Neutrons are the capacitors as parallel plates, the outer skin cover of atoms.

    Product details
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    • Publication date ‏ : ‎ July 21, 2023
    • Language ‏ : ‎ English
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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 28 17:35:50 2023
    Alright the drought of 2023 is better than the prior 3 years. Watering has been intermittent by me. But still it occupies the majority of my outside work day. We need 3 cm of rain for none for 2 weeks now, and having to water big trees.

    I noticed a horrific phenomenon that needs further research. Last year in watering trees by hose, big apple trees, I notice this year the only live wood is on the side of the tree that had the hose laid on the ground near the trunk. On the far side of
    the trunk where the water hose was not applied, that side of the branches of the tree are dead this year. This needs further research. That if you water one side of a tree, the other side branches will die from lack of water.

    A beautiful sight for me today, on my back door was a huge preying mantis, which I carefully moved him/her over to the bushes. Maybe there are far more, but they are so well camouflaged.

    The watering in droughts has kept me from fixing and improving buildings and grounds, a good reason to hate droughts. And now we have some of that Heat Dome that was over Arizona and Texas for most of July.

    The trouble with rain this year, we get some but not the soaker type of rain. We get a few sprinkles and then gone.

    Every more do I need to know if leaves get wet, whether the plant can absorb that moisture into its leaves and stem?? Important research if plants can live from wet leaves but seldom ground soaking moisture.

    There is going to be a point in time where people are going to realize our bad weather is due 90% from Sun gone Red Giant Phase, in which we have 1,000 years to have a permanent colony on Europa if we want to not go extinct. And that Climate Change by
    manmade fossil fuel burning is only a small fraction, 10% of why Earth now has bad bad weather.

    The Right Whale was discussed on PBS Newshour yesterday, saying only 300 of the animals now live and on that trajectory, they will be extinct in 20 years, due to ship collisions and fishing nets. Well, maybe all of humanity will go extinct and not reach
    Europa as a permanent colony, due to humanity's callous attitude in extinction of so many beautiful animals on Earth. Maybe God's payback, we extinct the Right Whale, God extincts us in retribution. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.

    AP

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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to whodat on Sat Jul 29 08:35:02 2023
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 9:01:44 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
    On 7/27/2023 8:19 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 4:40:06 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 05:46:20 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    He has been too stupid for his own good everywhere for quite a long
    time.

    Whodumbo, what is the slope of my garden shed that allows the armature to run down the rails with the force from gravity?

    Arindam, why don't you seal your membership in the Hall of Fame for Complete Dumbfucks by telling us again just why the core of our Sun is freezing? This should be good for a laugh from anyone who is new here! Go ahead, it is always a laugh to read
    what you have to say!

    I will say in advance that my dead dog knows more physics than you do!
    Your dead dog knows more about everything than Arindam Banerjee.

    For the Audience: "Yeah, we've seen that one before."

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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Sat Jul 29 08:35:55 2023
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 10:32:51 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 11:19:05 UTC+10, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 4:40:06 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 05:46:20 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    He has been too stupid for his own good everywhere for quite a long time.

    Whodumbo, what is the slope of my garden shed that allows the armature to run down the rails with the force from gravity?
    Arindam, why don't you seal your membership in the Hall of Fame for Complete Dumbfucks
    I have no wish to win the Nobel Prize for Physics. Having stupid whodumbos for devotees - ugh, what a thought!
    by telling us again just why the core of our Sun is freezing?
    I have done that many a time. Lazy robot, go find out the links.
    This should be good for a laugh from anyone who is new here! Go ahead, it is always a laugh to read what you have to say!
    Following my 2022 video films, constipational crises has overtaken their laughter.
    How is the armature getting accelerated along the rails? As there is still some honesty left in the newbies, they will not accept the whodat-Moroney theory that the table/floor is inclined so that it moves by gravity and also by my single finger.
    Well then, what is happening????
    Is the armature getting accelerated by magic?
    Are quarks, bosons, strings, photons, gravitons, dark matter, black holes, etc. involved in this???
    The Most Highly Esteemed Complete Dumbfucks are dumb about this!!!!! Rotating-head pea-soup emitting robots like Alsing cannot understand that.

    Beyond its programming, so the robot Alsing will resort to its exception handling pea-soup emitting routine, produced below:
    I will say in advance that my dead dog knows more physics than you do!
    Actually the late Bertram Wilberforce Wooster (Bertie) knew more genuine physics than the Most Highly Esteemed Complete Dumbfucks.
    Bertie was such a friend, companion and encourager in the early days of my discovery of the formula e=0.5mVVN(N-k) and efforts of its development by literary and engineering means.

    Cheers,
    Arindam Banerjee

    "Do you know what? It strikes me as though that Indian on Twitter Vivek Ramaswamy has been doing something like an imitation of the dictator in Jeeves and Wooster..." #probablyacommonthought

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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Rubard on Sat Jul 29 17:03:39 2023
    On Sunday, 30 July 2023 at 01:35:58 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 10:32:51 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 11:19:05 UTC+10, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 4:40:06 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 05:46:20 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    He has been too stupid for his own good everywhere for quite a long time.

    Whodumbo, what is the slope of my garden shed that allows the armature to run down the rails with the force from gravity?
    Arindam, why don't you seal your membership in the Hall of Fame for Complete Dumbfucks
    I have no wish to win the Nobel Prize for Physics. Having stupid whodumbos for devotees - ugh, what a thought!
    by telling us again just why the core of our Sun is freezing?
    I have done that many a time. Lazy robot, go find out the links.
    This should be good for a laugh from anyone who is new here! Go ahead, it is always a laugh to read what you have to say!
    Following my 2022 video films, constipational crises has overtaken their laughter.
    How is the armature getting accelerated along the rails? As there is still some honesty left in the newbies, they will not accept the whodat-Moroney theory that the table/floor is inclined so that it moves by gravity and also by my single finger.
    Well then, what is happening????
    Is the armature getting accelerated by magic?
    Are quarks, bosons, strings, photons, gravitons, dark matter, black holes, etc. involved in this???
    The Most Highly Esteemed Complete Dumbfucks are dumb about this!!!!! Rotating-head pea-soup emitting robots like Alsing cannot understand that.

    Beyond its programming, so the robot Alsing will resort to its exception handling pea-soup emitting routine, produced below:
    I will say in advance that my dead dog knows more physics than you do!
    Actually the late Bertram Wilberforce Wooster (Bertie) knew more genuine physics than the Most Highly Esteemed Complete Dumbfucks.
    Bertie was such a friend, companion and encourager in the early days of my discovery of the formula e=0.5mVVN(N-k) and efforts of its development by literary and engineering means.

    Cheers,
    Arindam Banerjee
    "Do you know what? It strikes me as though that Indian on Twitter Vivek Ramaswamy has been doing something like an imitation of the dictator in Jeeves and Wooster..."

    And that is the best response I can get from the land of the free and the land of the brave.
    Heh.
    Cannot anyone from the Ivy League do better than this headless chook?


    #probablyacommonthought

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 29 20:45:21 2023
    Can_Dr.Amit Chakma,Linda Hasenfratz,Dr.Pauline Barmby,Dr.Shantanu Basu, - -PLEASE--step into Univ of Western Ontario physics or chemistry lab and weigh the mass of Electrolysis Water, proving Water is H4O not H2O. AP's homegrown lab cannot do the fine
    tuning experiment of weighing a test tube of electrolyzed hydrogen and oxygen from water. If AP is correct Water is really H4O, not H2O. My weighing scale is puny and insufficient for the job at hand, 0.00001 gram or less of hydrogen and oxygen test
    tubes. If AP is correct the hydrogen is 1/4 the weight of oxygen, if mainstream chemistry, physics is correct the hydrogen is 1/8 in amu to oxygen.


    Univ Western Ontario math dept
    Janusz Adamus, Tatyana  Barron,   Dan Christensen, Graham Denham, Ajneet Dhillon, Matthias  Franz, John Jardine, Massoud Khalkhali, Nicole Lemire, Jan Mináč, Victoria Olds, Martin Pinsonnault, Lex Renner, David Riley, Rasul Shafikov, Gordon Sinnamon

    Chancellor Linda Hasenfratz
    President Alan Shepard
    Amit Chakma (chem engr)

    Univ. Western Ontario physics dept
    Pauline Barmby, Shantanu Basu, Peter Brown, Alex Buchel, Jan Cami, Margret Campbell-Brown, Blaine Chronik, Robert Cockcroft, John R. de Bruyn, Colin Denniston, Giovanni Fanchini, Sarah Gallagher, Lyudmila Goncharova, Wayne Hocking, Martin Houde, Jeffrey
    L. Hutter, Carol Jones, Stan Metchev, Silvia Mittler, Els Peeters, Robert Sica, Aaron Sigut, Peter Simpson, Mahi Singh, Paul Wiegert, Eugene Wong, Martin Zinke-Allmang

    Chris M. Thomasson
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    On 7/29/2023 8:27 PM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote: > Chris left his calculus,,, do de do de do,, in
    10:32 PM

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    AP: "Water is H4O."
    STUDENTS BEWARE: Don't be a victim of AP's fake math and science On Friday, July 28, 2023 at
    10:09 PM

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    See my replies just now to your identical postings at sci. math Dan On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 3:
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    See my reply just now to your identical posting at sci.logic Dan On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 3:40:
    9:58 PM



    +Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within

    +Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within

    3m views Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium


    Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within the accuracy I need for weighing a test tube of oxygen then a test tube of hydrogen from water electrolysis.


    Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium

    In Old Chemistry and Old Physics, their subatomic particles were do nothing and no function and no job particles that sit around as balls or whiz around the outside of balls doing nothing but pointless circling.

    In New Physics and New Chemistry-- All is Atom and Atoms are nothing but electricity and magnetism. Every subatomic particle has a job a function a purpose as to the Laws of Electromagnetism--- Faraday law, Coulomb law, Ampere law, Capacitor law.

    A proton is a torus of 840MeV with 840 windings, while the muon is the true electron of Atoms and is encased inside the proton torus thrusting through and producing electricity-- magnetic monopoles.

    The neutron of Atoms is a parallel plate capacitor storing the electricity of proton+muon and is skin cover on the outside of the proton torus in the form of parallel plates.

    Can hydrogen be a Atom if it is just a proton+muon? No, all atoms require to have a capacitor such as at least one neutron. Thus the Hydrogen Atom is H2 where you have 2 proton+muon where 1 of the 2 proton+muon acts like a neutron to the other
    proton+muon. Thus, water molecule is not H2O but rather is H4O.

    AP is waiting for experimental chemists and physicists to prove him correct that Water is H4O.

    In the meantime we have Hydroxyl which in Old Chemistry, especially Biology is OH, while AP says that is wrong and that is really H2O.

    Now glycerine is a hydroxyl with formula C3H8O3. And what I am thinking at this moment, is that hydroxyls will be an easier proof that Water is truly H4O, rather than wait for experimentalists to actually "weigh the electrolysis test tubes of
    oxygen and hydrogen".

    You see, with H4O as water, glycerine is C3(2 waters)O with an extra oxygen. If Water is H2O then glycerine is C3(4 waters) deficit O. It is missing an oxygen if water is H2O.

    The reason glycerine is so effective as a skin ointment is because it has glycerine, the extra O oxygen. If water were H2O, then glycerine would be a missing oxygen and not a skin lotion that works, but makes skin even more dry.

    Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium

    Archimedes Plutonium<[email protected]>
    12:24 AM (13 hours ago)



    to Plutonium Atom Universe

    --- quoting in part from source-- Study.com ---
    Perhaps there is only two Faraday laws on Electrolysis. I am looking at the one that states: Faraday's first law of electrolysis relates the mass of a substance liberated (or deposited) at an electrode to the electric charge used (Q). A
    proportionality constant Z can be used:

    m = ZQ = (E/96485)(Q)

    m = mass, Q = total charge rewritten as Q = I*t amperes x time in seconds.

    This website gives an example: 5amps passed through molten Sodium Chloride for 3 hours. Calculate the mass of Sodium. E=23/1.

    m = (23/96485) (5) (3*60*60) approx 12.87 grams.

    --- end quoting in part from source-- Study.com ---

    Now has such a experiment been performed on Water to see how much atomic mass of hydrogen and of oxygen results??? If AP is correct, the formula of water is H4O, if Old Physics, Old Chemistry is correct the formula is H2O. So which is it???

    AP


    No, sorry no, Faraday's Law of Electrolysis is not going to tell the correct mass of hydrogen.

    Reading Wikipedia on Faraday's Electrolysis law.

    --- quoting Wikipedia ---
    A monovalent ion requires 1 electron for discharge, a divalent ion requires 2 electrons for discharge and so on. Thus, if x electrons flow,
    x/v atoms are discharged.

    So the mass m discharged is

    m= (xM)/vN_A) = (QM)/(eN_A *v) = (QM) / (vF)
    where
    N_A is the Avogadro constant;
    Q = xe is the total charge, equal to the number of electrons (x) times the elementary charge e;
    F is the Faraday constant.
    --- end quoting Wikipedia ---

    No, the Faraday law of Electrolysis will not work on water with a correct answer, because H is not an atom but H2 is an Atom. And where one of the proton+muon converts to being a neutron to the other proton+muon.

    So if Faraday's law of Electrolysis was applied to water, thinking it would deliver a true answer is mistaken because the one H converts to neutron.

    So it appears that we need to directly measure the test tube of oxygen and the test tube of hydrogen by a direct mass measurement.

    AP
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    to Plutonium Atom Universe
    I doubt we can measure a test tube of hydrogen or test tube of oxygen, too small to determine the mass on some sort of weight scale.

    But here is a possible lucrative idea. We should be able to get pure deuterium water. Then run the electrolysis. Collect the test tubes.

    Now have some sort of balancing beam weight scale. Place the regular water of hydrogen test tube on one side, and place the deuterium water hydrogen test tube on other side. If they stay balanced, then AP is correct and Water is really H4O.

    AP
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    to Plutonium Atom Universe
    Cosmic Rays from Sun

    90% of Sun's cosmic rays are 840MeV proton+muon inside = H. The hydrogen Atom is H2 where one of the H proton+muon converts to being a neutron.

    When these proton+muon hit Earth atmosphere, they can turn into pions and muons.

    I commented that H alone is a subatomic particle and that makes sense in the idea that Sun's cosmic rays are 90% these proton+muon.

    Now is interstellar hydrogen H2 and intergalactic hydrogen H2 formed when one H cosmic ray joins up with another H cosmic ray to form H2 atom?

    Is this how we get H2 in outer space? From the splitting apart of H2 into H cosmic rays?

    So how much of the Sun's hydrogen is H2 and how much is H ready to join with another H and reform back into H2. Probably little of the Sun's H is H alone, and the vast majority of the Sun's hydrogen is H2.

    How much deuterium in the Sun? And it is a higher percentage than the deuterium in water on Earth?

    AP
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    to Plutonium Atom Universe
    Water is the only known non-metallic substance that expands when if freezes; its density decreases and it expands approximately 9% by volume. (Source: web Lunar and Planetary Institute)

    I have to wait for experimental chemists and physicists to weigh the mass of test tubes from electrolysis, as to the verdict-- water is H4O.

    But until that news comes in, I will look for other means of proof.

    So AP says that the H2 is not a molecule but is the hydrogen Atom itself, where one proton+muon converts to a neutron and capacitates the other proton+muon which undergo the Faraday law.

    There are subatomic particles of H in the form of Cosmic Rays from the Sun, but most of the Sun's hydrogen is H2, and flips back and forth from H to rejoining to form H2. Some gets away from the Sun and is cosmic rays.

    But H2 is an Atom and H is a fleeting subatomic particle.

    So can I prove Water is H4O from the data of Spectral lines of H2 is the same as deuterium, only slight difference is that the deuterium is a full fledged neutron not a makeshift proton+muon of H.

    I suspect that special trait of water freezing is a proof that Water is H4O. Because the 840MeV proton torus with muon inside doing the Faraday law acting as a makeshift neutron capacitor for the other 840MeV proton torus with muon inside, is
    where H2 gets that expansion characteristic.

    A neutron is a parallel plate capacitor and those plates can expand when frozen temperature occurs. As the temperature gets colder, those plates move further apart.

    Now does deuterium which truly has a full neutron, does it expand also when frozen?? If so, does it expand as much as H2 which is 2 protons with 2 muons inside?

    So comparing the freezing and expansion of the parallel plates of a neutron in deuterium with the freezing and expansion of one of the proton+muon that is acting as a makeshift neutron in H2.

    If I can numbers correlate the H2 expansion with the Deuterium expansion would be a alternative proof that Water is really H4O and not H2O.

    AP
    to
    So now on Blankenship's book "Molecular Mechanisms of Photosynthesis", 2014, page 134, shows The structure of ATP, ADP, AMP. And within that structure are OH hydroxyls.

    In New Chemistry, water is truly H4O, and where hydroxyls are now H2O. And we have first proof of this in the Figure 8.1 of Blankenship's "Chemical structure of ATP".

    For in the lower left corner of the diagram, Blankenship has a H+ all alone, (really a mindless error) and has P surrounded by O-, O-, O and OH. The OH is really H2O for hydroxyls are H2O and water itself is H4O, and that would leave that
    mindless H+ as being hydrogen Atom of H2.

    The world of physics and chemistry should drop what they are doing and weigh the electrolysis test tube of hydrogen and oxygen to discover the correct true formula of water is H4O.

    AP is total confident, becuase an Atom cannot exist if it has no capacitor structure such as a neutron, or one of the H in H2 acting as a neutron. I am totally confident that Water formula is truly H4O. And I need look only to methane of H4C, to
    realize that there is no HC, no H2C, no H3C, but starts with H4C, and that tells me water starts with H4O. Totally confident that Old Chemistry, Old Physics did electrolysis experiments and the moment they saw hydrogen test tube be 2x volume of oxygen
    test tube, they dropped their work and went out for a Danish and coffee break, rather than finish their work--- actual physics weighing of atomic mass units (not the Faraday electrolysis law for it does not apply to water).

    When water electrolysis is physics weighed, AP is confident that there are 4H per every one oxygen O. And that Water is truly H4O.

    AP, King of Science
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    to
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 8:56:57 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within the accuracy I need for weighing a test tube of oxygen then a test tube of hydrogen from water electrolysis.

    Now modern day physics and chemist experimenters can really do a marvelous job if they wanted to. For they could freeze the test tubes of oxygen and hydrogen to where they are liquid and compare liquids from water electrolysis.
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    to
    So, what AP is saying here is that we do electrolysis of water. We collect the two test tubes, one with oxygen the other with hydrogen.

    To prove Water is truly the formula H4O and not H2O we must weigh the masses of the two tubes to find that the ratio is 1 x 16amu to 4 x 1amu.

    The silly grotesque science error of the past was to look at volumes in the two test tubes-- "Hey-- the hydrogen is twice the volume of oxygen so the formula of water is H2O".

    No, way was that science good practice. For the correct formula of water needs to be measured by mass, by atomic mass units where Oxygen is 16amu and hydrogen is 1amu.

    I suspect a balance beam scale is good enough to see the hydrogen test tube will be 1/4 as massive as the oxygen test tube. To get within precision of electronic weighing scale of 0.00001 gram we just have to make a larger test tube of
    electrolysis of water.

    AP is betting that the readings will be hydrogen test tube 1/4 the mass of oxygen test tube proving Water formula is truly H4O.

    Old Physics and Old Chemistry is betting that the mass experiment will have the hydrogen test tube be 1/8 the mass of the oxygen test tube, proving Water formula is H2O.

    AP does not have these precision equipment to conduct an at-home experiment of this nature.

    AP
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    to
    So, once Water is found to actually be H4O, not H2O, we move on to methane, and ask the same question of its hydrogen bonds. Is Methane really that of H8C and not H4C.

    Well, looking in the literature for anomalies to methane, I come across a arXiv "Low and high-temperature anomalies in the physical properties of solid methane "The anomalous behavior of thermodynamic, spectral, plastic, elastic and some other
    properties of solid methane is discussed near 20.48K and...

    AP wonders: if they can get methane to solid form, well, I am then hopeful that the mass of the molecule can be determined. Because if methane is truly H8C, that difference of H4 in atomic mass units would be very much noticeable difference.

    Chemistry Europe--
    "The Anomalous Deuterium Isotope Effect in the NMR Spectrum of Methane...

    P Vermeeren, 2023
    "The abnormally long and weak methylidyne C-H bond.."
    "The C-H bond of the methylidyne radical, CH*, is abnormally long and weak, even longer and..."

    AP asks, are these anomalies solved if we consider methane is actually H8C and not H4C?

    AP


    My 250th published book.

    TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY; H2 is the hydrogen Atom and water is H4O, not H2O// Chemistry
    by Archimedes Plutonium (Author) (Amazon's Kindle)
    Prologue: This textbook is 1/2 research history and 1/2 factual textbook combined as one textbook. For many of the experiments described here-in have not yet been performed, such as water is really H4O not H2O. Written in a style of history research
    with date-time markers, and fact telling. And there are no problem sets. This book is intended for 1st year college. Until I include problem sets and exercises, I leave it to the professor and instructor to provide such. And also, chemistry is hugely a
    laboratory science, even more so than physics, so a first year college student in the lab to test whether Water is really H4O and not H2O is mighty educational.

    Preface: This is my 250th book of science, and the first of my textbooks on Teaching True Chemistry. I have completed the Teaching True Physics and the Teaching True Mathematics textbook series. But had not yet started on a Teaching True Chemistry
    textbook series. What got me started on this project is the fact that no chemistry textbook had the correct formula for water which is actually H4O and not H2O. Leaving the true formula for hydroxyl groups as H2O and not OH. But none of this is possible
    in Old Chemistry, Old Physics where they had do-nothing subatomic particles that sit around and do nothing or go whizzing around the outside of balls in a nucleus, in a mindless circling. Once every subatomic particle has a job, task, function, then
    water cannot be H2O but rather H4O. And a hydrogen atom cannot be H alone but is actually H2. H2 is not a molecule of hydrogen but a full fledged Atom, a single atom of hydrogen.

    Cover Picture: Sorry for the crude sketch work but chemistry and physics students are going to have to learn to make such sketches in a minute or less. Just as they make Lewis diagrams or ball & stick diagrams. My 4-5 minute sketch-work of the Water
    molecule H4O plus the subatomic particle H, and the hydrogen atom H2. Showing how one H is a proton torus with muon inside (blue color) doing the Faraday law. Protons are toruses with many windings. Protons are the coils in Faraday law while muons are
    the bar magnets. Neutrons are the capacitors as parallel plates, the outer skin cover of atoms.

    Product details
    • ASIN ‏ : ‎ B0CCLPTBDG
    • Publication date ‏ : ‎ July 21, 2023
    • Language ‏ : ‎ English
    • File size ‏ : ‎ 784 KB
    • Text-to-Speech ‏ : ‎ Enabled
    • Screen Reader ‏ : ‎ Supported
    • Enhanced typesetting ‏ : ‎ Enabled
    • X-Ray ‏ : ‎ Not Enabled
    • Word Wise ‏ : ‎ Enabled
    • Sticky notes ‏ : ‎ On Kindle Scribe
    • Print length ‏ : ‎ 160 pages






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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sat Jul 29 22:30:30 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    I predict
    dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
    will make the month of August...D-day.


    Somewhere between August 2nd - and Aug, 7th.



    bookmark dis page.



    The Starmaker wrote:

    I heard dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...is still alive!

    It was kind of dark, so i couldn't see him well...but i recognize his voice..and it was definitely him,,,dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin).

    I guess he is getting ready for...D-Day!

    On Sun, 09 Jul 2023 12:28:46 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    I heard, (but i don't know if it's true)

    the Wagner guys are going to take Poland.


    Now, it's the best time to take Poland while yous have a pussy for >President of the United States.


    The next President might not allow it.


    Everyone must always grab an ...opportunity.


    Biden will announced he will put sanctions on dat Wagner guy...cut off
    his PayPal account.


    Are Polish girls pretty????



    i wan some of dat!



    How many polish people does it take to change a light bulb?
    100, one to hold the bulb and ninety nine to spin the house.











    On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 21:05:41 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    ...and while the two bulldogs are
    fighting under the rug...

    now it's a good time for
    the little people of Russia to
    arm themselves and take Putin out.

    dat wagner guy would forgive them.

    Now is the time to stick a
    water hose down Putin's throat
    while he is already drowning.

    finish him off..



    The Starmaker wrote:

    So, Putin tells dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...
    "Don't worry, I'm dropping all treason charges and all dat other stuff". >>>
    Then Putin tells his friend.."KILL DAT MOTHERFUCKER!!!!"

    and his friend sez, "What about his all mercenary soldiers?"

    Putin sez, "Tell them to come in and they can all join my army."

    Then .."KILL ALL THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!"

    two bulldogs under a rug....

    who will come out..alive?

    The Starmaker wrote:

    My advise to this Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...stay aways from
    ...windows.

    The Starmaker wrote:

    if you people know anything about the mafia...
    you know Putin needs to rub out dat wagner guy, otherwise...

    EVERYBODY WILL WANT TO KNOCK OFF PUTIN!

    One of them has to die...soon.

    Which one is it going to be????

    (the wagner guy already made his move and now has the popular vote) >>> > >
    dis is not a game of chess..

    The Starmaker wrote:

    I heard the FBI needs your help..

    they are looking for this guy...anybody seen him around?

    https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif

    looks a liitle familiar..

    there is a reward out for him..$250,000.02

    https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif

    i tink i know where dis guy lives..

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Of course Putin is a chicken...he's got a lot more to lose than dat
    purse snatcher Wagner.

    One of those two has to...die.

    Which one are you rooting for? da gangster or da gangster?

    Why doesn't da Big Guy take them both out?

    well, we'll deal with wat ever gangster survies....

    Biden gots his own Crime Family to look after.

    Trump has to go after all the Crime Families in Washington!

    (luckly Trump has Rudy Giuliani to consult him...Rudy is an expert on
    Crime Families!)

    It's Kill or be Killed.

    You wanna make an omelete you gotta break some eggs.

    As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster. ...

    The Starmaker wrote:

    This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is trying to kill Putin, and
    Putin is trying to kill This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin). >>> > > > > >
    Who is going to win? The Gambino Family or the Bonano Family? >>> > > > > >
    Somebody is going to get hit on 46th Street...

    Mob Wars.

    Who gets to own the gas station on Putin Avenue?

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Looks to me..
    This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect
    President for Russia...he's strickly criminal. And

    looks to me
    he is going to vote himself in...
    and knock off Putin.

    Mob style.

    It's a Mafia state, why not?

    you gotta do it wit style.

    On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 23:36:35 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian

    https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C

    Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!

    Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...

    Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)

    (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
    In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
    While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
    There wasn�t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
    In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.

    Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
    the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
    a �beautiful� coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
    the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
    by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
    One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.

    "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?

    This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal.

    He's Putin's kind of guy...

    Do you know what "Putin's kind of guy..." means? Like a John Gotti
    underboss.

    Most of yous don't understand Putin and Russia.

    Russia in fact is a Mafia State. A country run by The Mafia. It's a
    Mafia country. Run by the Mafia.

    If you need a little more understanding...

    By Garry Kasparov
    When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question
    was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of
    Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its
    behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised
    at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions.

    Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this
    looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a
    businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign
    company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy
    marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as
    weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to
    terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is
    what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin
    regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of
    the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind
    the medieval red walls.

    Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part
    oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is
    partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in
    which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over
    this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain
    entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks.

    But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can
    recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by
    Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is
    of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for
    now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to
    the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario
    Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian
    government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr.
    Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start,
    but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian."

    The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is
    business, what is government, and what is criminal -- it's all there in
    Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees
    elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and
    Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin
    government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the
    intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep
    the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia.

    If a member of the inner circle goes against the Capo, his life is
    forfeit. Once Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky wanted to go
    straight and run his Yukos oil company as a legitimate corporation and
    not as another cog in Mr. Putin's KGB, Inc. He quickly found himself in
    a Siberian prison, his company dismantled and looted, and its pieces
    absorbed by the state mafia apparatus of Rosneft and Gazprom.

    The Yukos case has become a model. Private companies are absorbed into
    the state while at the same time the assets of the state companies move
    into private accounts.

    Alexander Litvinenko was a KGB agent who broke the loyalty code by
    fleeing to Britain. Worse, he violated the law of omert&agrave; by going
    to the press and even publishing books about the dirty deeds of Mr.
    Putin and his foot soldiers. Instead of being taken fishing in the
    old-fashioned Godfather style, he was killed in London in the first
    recorded case of nuclear terrorism. Now the Kremlin is refusing to hand
    over the main suspect in the murder.

    Mr. Putin can't understand Britain doing potential harm to its business
    interests over one human life. That's an alien concept. In his world,
    everything is negotiable. Morals and principles are just chips on the
    table in the Kremlin's game. There is no mere misunderstanding in the
    Litvinenko case; there are two different languages being spoken.

    In the civilized world, certain things are sacrosanct. Human life is not
    traded at the same table where business and diplomacy are discussed. But
    for Mr. Putin, it's a true no-limits game. Kosovo, the missile shield,
    pipeline deals, the Iranian nuclear program and democratic rights are
    all just cards to be played.



    Now, do you know who Mikhail Khodorkovsky is? He was head of the Jewish Mafia in Russia.

    When Putin got rid of Mikhail Khodorkovsky...all the other top Jewish Mafia guys ran to Israel.








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    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge
    the unchallengeable.
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    the unchallengeable.

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    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
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  • From whodat@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Rubard on Sun Jul 30 14:19:20 2023
    On 7/29/2023 10:35 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 9:01:44 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
    On 7/27/2023 8:19 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 4:40:06 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote: >>>> On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 05:46:20 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    He has been too stupid for his own good everywhere for quite a long
    time.

    Whodumbo, what is the slope of my garden shed that allows the armature to run down the rails with the force from gravity?

    Arindam, why don't you seal your membership in the Hall of Fame for Complete Dumbfucks by telling us again just why the core of our Sun is freezing? This should be good for a laugh from anyone who is new here! Go ahead, it is always a laugh to read
    what you have to say!

    I will say in advance that my dead dog knows more physics than you do!
    Your dead dog knows more about everything than Arindam Banerjee.

    For the Audience: "Yeah, we've seen that one before."

    We're all counting on your short memory that encourages your
    laughter at each new iteration.

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  • From whodat@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Rubard on Sun Jul 30 14:21:24 2023
    On 7/29/2023 10:35 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 10:32:51 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 11:19:05 UTC+10, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 4:40:06 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote: >>>> On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 05:46:20 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    He has been too stupid for his own good everywhere for quite a long
    time.

    Whodumbo, what is the slope of my garden shed that allows the armature to run down the rails with the force from gravity?
    Arindam, why don't you seal your membership in the Hall of Fame for Complete Dumbfucks
    I have no wish to win the Nobel Prize for Physics. Having stupid whodumbos for devotees - ugh, what a thought!
    by telling us again just why the core of our Sun is freezing?
    I have done that many a time. Lazy robot, go find out the links.
    This should be good for a laugh from anyone who is new here! Go ahead, it is always a laugh to read what you have to say!
    Following my 2022 video films, constipational crises has overtaken their laughter.
    How is the armature getting accelerated along the rails? As there is still some honesty left in the newbies, they will not accept the whodat-Moroney theory that the table/floor is inclined so that it moves by gravity and also by my single finger.
    Well then, what is happening????
    Is the armature getting accelerated by magic?
    Are quarks, bosons, strings, photons, gravitons, dark matter, black holes, etc. involved in this???
    The Most Highly Esteemed Complete Dumbfucks are dumb about this!!!!!
    Rotating-head pea-soup emitting robots like Alsing cannot understand that. >>
    Beyond its programming, so the robot Alsing will resort to its exception handling pea-soup emitting routine, produced below:
    I will say in advance that my dead dog knows more physics than you do!
    Actually the late Bertram Wilberforce Wooster (Bertie) knew more genuine physics than the Most Highly Esteemed Complete Dumbfucks.
    Bertie was such a friend, companion and encourager in the early days of my discovery of the formula e=0.5mVVN(N-k) and efforts of its development by literary and engineering means.

    Cheers,
    Arindam Banerjee

    "Do you know what? It strikes me as though that Indian on Twitter Vivek Ramaswamy has been doing something like an imitation of the dictator in Jeeves and Wooster..." #probablyacommonthought

    Actually when you get right down to it this Indian is not that smart.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to whodat on Sun Jul 30 12:25:01 2023
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 12:21:31 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
    On 7/29/2023 10:35 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 10:32:51 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 11:19:05 UTC+10, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 4:40:06 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 05:46:20 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    He has been too stupid for his own good everywhere for quite a long >>>>> time.

    Whodumbo, what is the slope of my garden shed that allows the armature to run down the rails with the force from gravity?
    Arindam, why don't you seal your membership in the Hall of Fame for Complete Dumbfucks
    I have no wish to win the Nobel Prize for Physics. Having stupid whodumbos for devotees - ugh, what a thought!
    by telling us again just why the core of our Sun is freezing?
    I have done that many a time. Lazy robot, go find out the links.
    This should be good for a laugh from anyone who is new here! Go ahead, it is always a laugh to read what you have to say!
    Following my 2022 video films, constipational crises has overtaken their laughter.
    How is the armature getting accelerated along the rails? As there is still some honesty left in the newbies, they will not accept the whodat-Moroney theory that the table/floor is inclined so that it moves by gravity and also by my single finger.
    Well then, what is happening????
    Is the armature getting accelerated by magic?
    Are quarks, bosons, strings, photons, gravitons, dark matter, black holes, etc. involved in this???
    The Most Highly Esteemed Complete Dumbfucks are dumb about this!!!!!
    Rotating-head pea-soup emitting robots like Alsing cannot understand that.

    Beyond its programming, so the robot Alsing will resort to its exception handling pea-soup emitting routine, produced below:
    I will say in advance that my dead dog knows more physics than you do! >> Actually the late Bertram Wilberforce Wooster (Bertie) knew more genuine physics than the Most Highly Esteemed Complete Dumbfucks.
    Bertie was such a friend, companion and encourager in the early days of my discovery of the formula e=0.5mVVN(N-k) and efforts of its development by literary and engineering means.

    Cheers,
    Arindam Banerjee

    "Do you know what? It strikes me as though that Indian on Twitter Vivek Ramaswamy has been doing something like an imitation of the dictator in Jeeves and Wooster..." #probablyacommonthought
    Actually when you get right down to it this Indian is not that smart.

    Space ships are always subject to acceleration deceleration in space giving them weight.

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Jul 30 12:48:52 2023
    [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

    <snip>

    Space ships are always subject to acceleration deceleration in space giving them weight.


    And other than the engine, what would cause that moron?

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 30 13:26:40 2023
    Can MitchR the spamming fool who cannot admit slant cut of cone is Oval not the ellipse, nor can he do a geometry proof of Fundamental Theorem of Calculus, can that fool, perhaps explain what Middle Third Rule for Engineering is.

    You be surprised what math failures can explain in engineering?

    So now, back in May when I started this book, the topic of "Rule of Middle Third" of engineering came up. And I want to understand that rule in case the proton, muon, neutron have some sort of middle third rule applicable to them in atomic theory.

    So I search Google for "engineering middle third rule". And to be totally honest with you, I seem to have a tension and stress in my own mind as to understanding this rule. Either, I am dumb in not comprehending, or the instructors are poor in explaining,
    or finally the rule is really very difficult. So which of these three is the middle third??

    Is this rule simply just saying if you apply force outside the center, you will fell the structure. But if you apply force directly in the center of the structure, the structure has the best chances of surviving? Basically is that what the rule is trying
    to say, and if so, why the hell cannot the engineers state it so simply???


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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to whodat on Sun Jul 30 14:28:01 2023
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 12:19:27 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
    On 7/29/2023 10:35 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 9:01:44 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
    On 7/27/2023 8:19 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 4:40:06 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 05:46:20 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    He has been too stupid for his own good everywhere for quite a long >>>>> time.

    Whodumbo, what is the slope of my garden shed that allows the armature to run down the rails with the force from gravity?

    Arindam, why don't you seal your membership in the Hall of Fame for Complete Dumbfucks by telling us again just why the core of our Sun is freezing? This should be good for a laugh from anyone who is new here! Go ahead, it is always a laugh to read
    what you have to say!

    I will say in advance that my dead dog knows more physics than you do! >> Your dead dog knows more about everything than Arindam Banerjee.

    For the Audience: "Yeah, we've seen that one before."
    We're all counting on your short memory that encourages your
    laughter at each new iteration.

    You mean you're all nuts and can't reason logically? "Seems so."

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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to whodat on Sun Jul 30 14:27:34 2023
    On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 12:21:31 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
    On 7/29/2023 10:35 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 10:32:51 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 11:19:05 UTC+10, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 4:40:06 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 28 July 2023 at 05:46:20 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    He has been too stupid for his own good everywhere for quite a long >>>>> time.

    Whodumbo, what is the slope of my garden shed that allows the armature to run down the rails with the force from gravity?
    Arindam, why don't you seal your membership in the Hall of Fame for Complete Dumbfucks
    I have no wish to win the Nobel Prize for Physics. Having stupid whodumbos for devotees - ugh, what a thought!
    by telling us again just why the core of our Sun is freezing?
    I have done that many a time. Lazy robot, go find out the links.
    This should be good for a laugh from anyone who is new here! Go ahead, it is always a laugh to read what you have to say!
    Following my 2022 video films, constipational crises has overtaken their laughter.
    How is the armature getting accelerated along the rails? As there is still some honesty left in the newbies, they will not accept the whodat-Moroney theory that the table/floor is inclined so that it moves by gravity and also by my single finger.
    Well then, what is happening????
    Is the armature getting accelerated by magic?
    Are quarks, bosons, strings, photons, gravitons, dark matter, black holes, etc. involved in this???
    The Most Highly Esteemed Complete Dumbfucks are dumb about this!!!!!
    Rotating-head pea-soup emitting robots like Alsing cannot understand that.

    Beyond its programming, so the robot Alsing will resort to its exception handling pea-soup emitting routine, produced below:
    I will say in advance that my dead dog knows more physics than you do! >> Actually the late Bertram Wilberforce Wooster (Bertie) knew more genuine physics than the Most Highly Esteemed Complete Dumbfucks.
    Bertie was such a friend, companion and encourager in the early days of my discovery of the formula e=0.5mVVN(N-k) and efforts of its development by literary and engineering means.

    Cheers,
    Arindam Banerjee

    "Do you know what? It strikes me as though that Indian on Twitter Vivek Ramaswamy has been doing something like an imitation of the dictator in Jeeves and Wooster..." #probablyacommonthought
    Actually when you get right down to it this Indian is not that smart.

    "I think it's just him personally."

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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Sun Jul 30 14:55:32 2023
    On Sunday, 16 July 2023 at 07:37:29 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 20:45:18 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 18:43:05 UTC+10, corella wrote:
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-14/india-to-launch-moon-rocket-chandrayaan-3/102583926

    Rockets are for fireworks. These are reverse-racist apists of Western trash. Internal Force Engines are the way to become aliens in outer space.
    https://www.facebook.com/arindam.banerjee.31149359/videos/1028532314980688 shows the power stroke, key to reactionless motors for unlimited speeds without rocket action that must throw out mass yet only reach limited speeds.
    (The mechanical reaction in the video is caused from rolling, MERCURY RAILS ARE NEEDED for the heavy armature to slide without pushing back the motor with treadmill action.)
    The arrested armature will give its momentum to the whole motor and the vehicle with it.
    In outer space, nothing to stop it! It will gain a velocity v with every hit with the power stroke. After N hits the speed will be Nv.
    In the second stroke, the armature has to be brought back to the original position.
    Then, again and again, with the hits.
    Millions of amperes of current are needed. For that, fuel cells are required powered by hydrogen and oxygen.

    Cheers,
    Arindam Banerjee

    Just as a gun, working perfectly, at last, going down smoothly down the rails, after many failed efforts, thanks to the blessing of my dear Mother-Goddess Kali.
    This was done last year, and posted in my facebook timeline. Link below.

    https://www.facebook.com/arindam.banerjee.31149359/videos/592548412412428

    Note my explanations in the text for this above post.
    "First testing of the latest rail gun with the heavy 7.163 Kg bullet that is heavier than the gun. It runs on 8.2 volts. If it ran at 1000 V it would send the bullet which could be a missile to hypersonic speeds. It would make existing artillery look
    like muskets! Unfortunately the history of mankind indicates that leaders would spend money on this far more readily than my math methods for solving complex problems, the HTN details at htnresearch.com and reactionless motors for space conquest.
    At least I can show how quintillion dollar works started over the coming millennia, from this my garage!"

    It will take a lot of imagination and effort turn this into a reactionless motor, but as a gun its potential is obvious for war and peace.

    !!!!!!!!
    Oy whodumbo, what is the slope of my garage floor??? :-)
    !!!!!!!!

    Cheers,
    Arindam Banerjee

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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Mon Jul 31 23:06:19 2023
    On Monday, 31 July 2023 at 07:55:35 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Sunday, 16 July 2023 at 07:37:29 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 20:45:18 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 18:43:05 UTC+10, corella wrote:
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-14/india-to-launch-moon-rocket-chandrayaan-3/102583926

    Rockets are for fireworks. These are reverse-racist apists of Western trash. Internal Force Engines are the way to become aliens in outer space.
    https://www.facebook.com/arindam.banerjee.31149359/videos/1028532314980688 shows the power stroke, key to reactionless motors for unlimited speeds without rocket action that must throw out mass yet only reach limited speeds.
    (The mechanical reaction in the video is caused from rolling, MERCURY RAILS ARE NEEDED for the heavy armature to slide without pushing back the motor with treadmill action.)
    The arrested armature will give its momentum to the whole motor and the vehicle with it.
    In outer space, nothing to stop it! It will gain a velocity v with every hit with the power stroke. After N hits the speed will be Nv.
    In the second stroke, the armature has to be brought back to the original position.
    Then, again and again, with the hits.
    Millions of amperes of current are needed. For that, fuel cells are required powered by hydrogen and oxygen.

    Cheers,
    Arindam Banerjee

    Just as a gun, working perfectly, at last, going down smoothly down the rails, after many failed efforts, thanks to the blessing of my dear Mother-Goddess Kali.
    This was done last year, and posted in my facebook timeline. Link below.

    https://www.facebook.com/arindam.banerjee.31149359/videos/592548412412428

    Note my explanations in the text for this above post.
    "First testing of the latest rail gun with the heavy 7.163 Kg bullet that is heavier than the gun. It runs on 8.2 volts. If it ran at 1000 V it would send the bullet which could be a missile to hypersonic speeds. It would make existing artillery look
    like muskets! Unfortunately the history of mankind indicates that leaders would spend money on this far more readily than my math methods for solving complex problems, the HTN details at htnresearch.com and reactionless motors for space conquest.
    At least I can show how quintillion dollar works started over the coming millennia, from this my garage!"

    It will take a lot of imagination and effort turn this into a reactionless motor, but as a gun its potential is obvious for war and peace.

    !!!!!!!!
    Oy whodumbo, what is the slope of my garage floor??? :-)
    !!!!!!!!

    Heh-heh.

    Cheers,
    Arindam Banerjee

    rotflw4pita

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to Volney on Tue Aug 1 21:39:21 2023
    NSF Dr. Panchanathan,Purdue's France Anne Cordova,Lloyd Whitman, John J. Veysey, Scott Stanley, why does Kibo continue to defile the Pope, for he continues to defile and demonize AP everyday?

    On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 9:26:36 PM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    "Village Idiot of Meckling SD"
    Drag Queen of Science

    Re: Univ Dayton Eric Spina, why Kibo hate The Pope? He continues to defile The Pope? Can you stop him, for he has defiled and demonized AP for 30 years nonstop, are you going to let him defile the Pope for 30 years???? And Todd B.Smith, how is your

    NSF Dr. Panchanathan,Purdue's France Anne Cordova,Lloyd Whitman, John J. Veysey, Scott Stanley, why does Kibo continue to defile the Pope, for he continues to defile and demonize AP everyday?

    Re: Univ Dayton Eric Spina, why Kibo hate The Pope? He continues to defile The Pope? Can you stop him, for he has defiled and demonized AP for 30 years nonstop, are you going to let him defile the Pope for 30 years???? And Todd B.Smith, how is your

    Re: Archimedes "Pope of Failure" Plutonium flunked the math test of a lifetime-generation test
    by Volney Feb 24, 2023, 11:28:40 PM


    On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 9:28:07 PM UTC-6, Volney wrote:
    Re: Archimedes "Pope of Failure" Plutonium flunked the math test of a lifetime-generation test
    "self diagnosed as insane"

    Re: Archimedes "Pope of Failure" Plutonium flunked the math test of a lifetime-generation test
    by Volney Mar 31, 2023, 1:45:31 AM


    Univ Dayton Eric Spina, why Kibo hate The Pope? He continues to defile The Pope? Can you stop him, for he has defiled and demonized AP for 30 years nonstop, are you going to let him defile the Pope for 30 years???? And Todd B.Smith, how is your reading
    of AP's TEACHING TRUE PHYSICS and TEACHING TRUE MATH textbook series (see below) coming along. I would answer any questions you may have, provided they are serious questions.

    Kibo Parry Moroney-Volney, an open hate channel--

    Paid 30 yr. stalker Kibo Parry (Volney)
    On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 1:06:17 PM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    Gnat of Math and Phlea of Physics
    "Kim Jong Un's lackey"
    "psychoceramic"
    Drag Queen of Science especially Physics and Logic

    Is NSF Dr. Panchanathan paying Kibo to stalk??? If so, please replace him.

    Pres.Biden please examine the resignation of Dr.Panchanathan NSF (Trump appointee) as the root cause of Kibo's "analbuttfuckmanure" stalk 2017, Kibo's necrophilia stalking 2022, Kibo's hatred of Pope, and Kibo's "you need more punishment" stalks.

    NSF Dr.Panchanathan resign and get someone in there who knows science who knows Maxwell Equations, not chutes & ladders and Pokemon games. Get a leader at NSF who has brains enough to know it is --- bad bad business--- to pay stalkers to stalk Usenet--
    Panchanathan is worse at NSF than Trump is at presidency, and Panchanathan was a Trump appointment.

    Why does the NSF hate the Pope??? You should all be all ashamed of yourself at the NSF and write the Pope a letter of apology for the James Kibo Parry Moroney Volney constant hate spew on the Pope.


    ---quoting Wikipedia ---
    Controversy
    Many government and university installations blocked, threatened to block, or attempted to shut-down The World's Internet connection until Software Tool & Die was eventually granted permission by the National Science Foundation to provide public Internet
    access on "an experimental basis."
    --- end quote ---

    NATIONAL SCIENCE FOUNDATION

    Dr. Panchanathan , present day
    NSF Dr. Panchanathan, F. Fleming Crim, Dorothy E Aronson, Brian Stone, James S Olvestad, Rebecca Lynn Keiser, Vernon D. Ross, Lloyd Whitman, John J. Veysey, Scott Stanley
    France Anne Cordova
    Subra Suresh
    Arden Lee Bement Jr.
    Rita R. Colwell
    Neal Francis Lane
    John Howard Gibbons 1993

    Barry Shein, kibo parry std world
    Jim Frost, Joe "Spike" Ilacqua






    On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 1:16:12 AM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    Hagfish of Math and Slime Eel of Physics
    Re: "howling crazy fuckdog"
    "Putin's minion"
    defiles the Pope before tarding:
    Eric Spina,Elizabeth Smith,Todd B. Smith Univ Dayton--
    Dayton? Are you trying to guess universities one by one to find mine?


    On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 4:51:55 PM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    "imp of physics"
    defiles the pope and then tards:
    Turd Soup Machine".

    But the defiling of the character AP b
  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to Volney on Wed Aug 2 14:31:10 2023
    Can Harvard run a electrolysis experiment on Water, for I believe water is really H4O and not H2O.

    Harvard did have a Nobel Chemistry winners in Martin Karplus, Arieh Warshel, Roger Kornberg, Walter Gilbert, Elias J. Corey, Dudley R. Herschbach, William N. Lipscomb, Robert Burns Woodward, T.W. Richards.

    If AP is correct the hydrogen test tube weighs 1/4 of the oxygen in atomic mass units. If mainstream chemistry and physics is correct, the hydrogen test tube weighs 1/8 of the oxygen test tube in a.m.u.

    Would the physicists and chemists of Harvard be interested in conducting the experiment. My home grown lab cannot weigh to 0.00001 gram or less.

    Kibo Parry M-Volney the ranting lunatic of sci. newsgroups for 30 years nonstop On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 8:12:58 AM UTC-5, Volney wrote: >"antiscience"
    humiliates himself by writing:



    Harvard Physics dept
    Jacob Barandes, Howard Berg, Michael Brenner, Adam Cohen, Eugene Demler, Michael Desai
    Louis Deslauriers, John Doyle, Cora Dvorkin, Gary Feldman, Douglas Finkbeiner, Melissa Franklin, Gerald Gabrielse, Howard Georgi, Sheldon Glashow, Roy Glauber, Jene Golovchenko, Markus Greiner, Roxanne Guenette, Girma Hailu, Bertrand Halperin, Lene Hau
    Thomas Hayes, Eric Heller, Jason Hoffman, Jenny Hoffman, Gerald Holton, Paul Horowitz, John Huth, Arthur Jaffe, Daniel Jafferis, Efthimios Kaxiras, Philip Kim, John Kovac, Erel Levine
    Mikhail Lukin, Logan McCarty, L. Mahadevan, Vinothan Manoharan, Eric Mazur, Masahiro Morii
    David Morin, Julia Mundy, Cherry Murray, David Nelson, Kang Ni, Hongkun Park, William Paul
    Peter Pershan, Mara Prentiss, Lisa Randall, Matthew Reece, Subir Sachdev, Aravinthan Samuel, Matthew Schwartz, Irwin Shapiro, Isaac Silvera, Andrew Strominger, Christopher Stubbs, Cumrun Vafa, Ronald Walsworth, David Weitz, Robert Westervelt, Richard
    Wilson
    Tai Wu, Amir Yacoby, Susanne Yelin, Xi Yin

    Re: Univ Dayton Eric Spina, why Kibo hate The Pope? He continues to defile The Pope? Can you stop him, for he has defiled and demonized AP for 30 years nonstop, are you going to let him defile the Pope for 30 years???? And Todd B.Smith, how is your

    Re: Archimedes "Pope of Failure" Plutonium flunked the math test of a lifetime-generation test
    by Volney Feb 24, 2023, 11:28:40 PM


    On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 9:28:07 PM UTC-6, Volney wrote:
    Re: Archimedes "Pope of Failure" Plutonium flunked the math test of a lifetime-generation test
    "self diagnosed as insane"

    Re: Archimedes "Pope of Failure" Plutonium flunked the math test of a lifetime-generation test
    by Volney Mar 31, 2023, 1:45:31 AM


    Univ Dayton Eric Spina, why Kibo hate The Pope? He continues to defile The Pope? Can you stop him, for he has defiled and demonized AP for 30 years nonstop, are you going to let him defile the Pope for 30 years???? And Todd B.Smith, how is your reading
    of AP's TEACHING TRUE PHYSICS and TEACHING TRUE MATH textbook series (see below) coming along. I would answer any questions you may have, provided they are serious questions.

    Kibo Parry Moroney-Volney, an open hate channel--

    Can_University Dayton --Please- please-step into the Univ Dayton, Ohio physics or chemistry lab and weigh the mass of Electrolysis Water, proving Water is H4O not H2O.

    +Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within

    +Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within

    3m views Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium


    Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within the accuracy I need for weighing a test tube of oxygen then a test tube of hydrogen from water electrolysis.


    Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium

    In Old Chemistry and Old Physics, their subatomic particles were do nothing and no function and no job particles that sit around as balls or whiz around the outside of balls doing nothing but pointless circling.

    In New Physics and New Chemistry-- All is Atom and Atoms are nothing but electricity and magnetism. Every subatomic particle has a job a function a purpose as to the Laws of Electromagnetism--- Faraday law, Coulomb law, Ampere law, Capacitor law.

    A proton is a torus of 840MeV with 840 windings, while the muon is the true electron of Atoms and is encased inside the proton torus thrusting through and producing electricity-- magnetic monopoles.

    The neutron of Atoms is a parallel plate capacitor storing the electricity of proton+muon and is skin cover on the outside of the proton torus in the form of parallel plates.

    Can hydrogen be a Atom if it is just a proton+muon? No, all atoms require to have a capacitor such as at least one neutron. Thus the Hydrogen Atom is H2 where you have 2 proton+muon where 1 of the 2 proton+muon acts like a neutron to the other
    proton+muon. Thus, water molecule is not H2O but rather is H4O.

    AP is waiting for experimental chemists and physicists to prove him correct that Water is H4O.

    In the meantime we have Hydroxyl which in Old Chemistry, especially Biology is OH, while AP says that is wrong and that is really H2O.

    Now glycerine is a hydroxyl with formula C3H8O3. And what I am thinking at this moment, is that hydroxyls will be an easier proof that Water is truly H4O, rather than wait for experimentalists to actually "weigh the electrolysis test tubes of
    oxygen and hydrogen".

    You see, with H4O as water, glycerine is C3(2 waters)O with an extra oxygen. If Water is H2O then glycerine is C3(4 waters) deficit O. It is missing an oxygen if water is H2O.

    The reason glycerine is so effective as a skin ointment is because it has glycerine, the extra O oxygen. If water were H2O, then glycerine would be a missing oxygen and not a skin lotion that works, but makes skin even more dry.

    Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium

    Archimedes Plutonium<[email protected]>
    12:24 AM (13 hours ago)



    to Plutonium Atom Universe

    --- quoting in part from source-- Study.com ---
    Perhaps there is only two Faraday laws on Electrolysis. I am looking at the one that states: Faraday's first law of electrolysis relates the mass of a substance liberated (or deposited) at an electrode to the electric charge used (Q). A
    proportionality constant Z can be used:

    m = ZQ = (E/96485)(Q)

    m = mass, Q = total charge rewritten as Q = I*t amperes x time in seconds.

    This website gives an example: 5amps passed through molten Sodium Chloride for 3 hours. Calculate the mass of Sodium. E=23/1.

    m = (23/96485) (5) (3*60*60) approx 12.87 grams.

    --- end quoting in part from source-- Study.com ---

    Now has such a experiment been performed on Water to see how much atomic mass of hydrogen and of oxygen results??? If AP is correct, the formula of water is H4O, if Old Physics, Old Chemistry is correct the formula is H2O. So which is it???

    AP


    No, sorry no, Faraday's Law of Electrolysis is not going to tell the correct mass of hydrogen.

    Reading Wikipedia on Faraday's Electrolysis law.

    --- quoting Wikipedia ---
    A monovalent ion requires 1 electron for discharge, a divalent ion requires 2 electrons for discharge and so on. Thus, if x electrons flow,
    x/v atoms are discharged.

    So the mass m discharged is

    m= (xM)/vN_A) = (QM)/(eN_A *v) = (QM) / (vF)
    where
    N_A is the Avogadro constant;
    Q = xe is the total charge, equal to the number of electrons (x) times the elementary charge e;
    F is the Faraday constant.
    --- end quoting Wikipedia ---

    No, the Faraday law of Electrolysis will not work on water with a correct answer, because H is not an atom but H2 is an Atom. And where one of the proton+muon converts to being a neutron to the other proton+muon.

    So if Faraday's law of Electrolysis was applied to water, thinking it would deliver a true answer is mistaken because the one H converts to neutron.

    So it appears that we need to directly measure the test tube of oxygen and the test tube of hydrogen by a direct mass measurement.

    AP
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    to Plutonium Atom Universe
    I doubt we can measure a test tube of hydrogen or test tube of oxygen, too small to determine the mass on some sort of weight scale.

    But here is a possible lucrative idea. We should be able to get pure deuterium water. Then run the electrolysis. Collect the test tubes.

    Now have some sort of balancing beam weight scale. Place the regular water of hydrogen test tube on one side, and place the deuterium water hydrogen test tube on other side. If they stay balanced, then AP is correct and Water is really H4O.

    AP
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    1:48 AM (11 hours ago)



    to Plutonium Atom Universe
    Cosmic Rays from Sun

    90% of Sun's cosmic rays are 840MeV proton+muon inside = H. The hydrogen Atom is H2 where one of the H proton+muon converts to being a neutron.

    When these proton+muon hit Earth atmosphere, they can turn into pions and muons.

    I commented that H alone is a subatomic particle and that makes sense in the idea that Sun's cosmic rays are 90% these proton+muon.

    Now is interstellar hydrogen H2 and intergalactic hydrogen H2 formed when one H cosmic ray joins up with another H cosmic ray to form H2 atom?

    Is this how we get H2 in outer space? From the splitting apart of H2 into H cosmic rays?

    So how much of the Sun's hydrogen is H2 and how much is H ready to join with another H and reform back into H2. Probably little of the Sun's H is H alone, and the vast majority of the Sun's hydrogen is H2.

    How much deuterium in the Sun? And it is a higher percentage than the deuterium in water on Earth?

    AP
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    to Plutonium Atom Universe
    Water is the only known non-metallic substance that expands when if freezes; its density decreases and it expands approximately 9% by volume. (Source: web Lunar and Planetary Institute)

    I have to wait for experimental chemists and physicists to weigh the mass of test tubes from electrolysis, as to the verdict-- water is H4O.

    But until that news comes in, I will look for other means of proof.

    So AP says that the H2 is not a molecule but is the hydrogen Atom itself, where one proton+muon converts to a neutron and capacitates the other proton+muon which undergo the Faraday law.

    There are subatomic particles of H in the form of Cosmic Rays from the Sun, but most of the Sun's hydrogen is H2, and flips back and forth from H to rejoining to form H2. Some gets away from the Sun and is cosmic rays.

    But H2 is an Atom and H is a fleeting subatomic particle.

    So can I prove Water is H4O from the data of Spectral lines of H2 is the same as deuterium, only slight difference is that the deuterium is a full fledged neutron not a makeshift proton+muon of H.

    I suspect that special trait of water freezing is a proof that Water is H4O. Because the 840MeV proton torus with muon inside doing the Faraday law acting as a makeshift neutron capacitor for the other 840MeV proton torus with muon inside, is
    where H2 gets that expansion characteristic.

    A neutron is a parallel plate capacitor and those plates can expand when frozen temperature occurs. As the temperature gets colder, those plates move further apart.

    Now does deuterium which truly has a full neutron, does it expand also when frozen?? If so, does it expand as much as H2 which is 2 protons with 2 muons inside?

    So comparing the freezing and expansion of the parallel plates of a neutron in deuterium with the freezing and expansion of one of the proton+muon that is acting as a makeshift neutron in H2.

    If I can numbers correlate the H2 expansion with the Deuterium expansion would be a alternative proof that Water is really H4O and not H2O.

    AP
    to
    So now on Blankenship's book "Molecular Mechanisms of Photosynthesis", 2014, page 134, shows The structure of ATP, ADP, AMP. And within that structure are OH hydroxyls.

    In New Chemistry, water is truly H4O, and where hydroxyls are now H2O. And we have first proof of this in the Figure 8.1 of Blankenship's "Chemical structure of ATP".

    For in the lower left corner of the diagram, Blankenship has a H+ all alone, (really a mindless error) and has P surrounded by O-, O-, O and OH. The OH is really H2O for hydroxyls are H2O and water itself is H4O, and that would leave that
    mindless H+ as being hydrogen Atom of H2.

    The world of physics and chemistry should drop what they are doing and weigh the electrolysis test tube of hydrogen and oxygen to discover the correct true formula of water is H4O.

    AP is total confident, becuase an Atom cannot exist if it has no capacitor structure such as a neutron, or one of the H in H2 acting as a neutron. I am totally confident that Water formula is truly H4O. And I need look only to methane of H4C, to
    realize that there is no HC, no H2C, no H3C, but starts with H4C, and that tells me water starts with H4O. Totally confident that Old Chemistry, Old Physics did electrolysis experiments and the moment they saw hydrogen test tube be 2x volume of oxygen
    test tube, they dropped their work and went out for a Danish and coffee break, rather than finish their work--- actual physics weighing of atomic mass units (not the Faraday electrolysis law for it does not apply to water).

    When water electrolysis is physics weighed, AP is confident that there are 4H per every one oxygen O. And that Water is truly H4O.

    AP, King of Science
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    to
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 8:56:57 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within the accuracy I need for weighing a test tube of oxygen then a test tube of hydrogen from water electrolysis.

    Now modern day physics and chemist experimenters can really do a marvelous job if they wanted to. For they could freeze the test tubes of oxygen and hydrogen to where they are liquid and compare liquids from water electrolysis.
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    10:01 AM (5 hours ago)



    to
    So, what AP is saying here is that we do electrolysis of water. We collect the two test tubes, one with oxygen the other with hydrogen.

    To prove Water is truly the formula H4O and not H2O we must weigh the masses of the two tubes to find that the ratio is 1 x 16amu to 4 x 1amu.

    The silly grotesque science error of the past was to look at volumes in the two test tubes-- "Hey-- the hydrogen is twice the volume of oxygen so the formula of water is H2O".

    No, way was that science good practice. For the correct formula of water needs to be measured by mass, by atomic mass units where Oxygen is 16amu and hydrogen is 1amu.

    I suspect a balance beam scale is good enough to see the hydrogen test tube will be 1/4 as massive as the oxygen test tube. To get within precision of electronic weighing scale of 0.00001 gram we just have to make a larger test tube of
    electrolysis of water.

    AP is betting that the readings will be hydrogen test tube 1/4 the mass of oxygen test tube proving Water formula is truly H4O.

    Old Physics and Old Chemistry is betting that the mass experiment will have the hydrogen test tube be 1/8 the mass of the oxygen test tube, proving Water formula is H2O.

    AP does not have these precision equipment to conduct an at-home experiment of this nature.

    AP
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    to
    So, once Water is found to actually be H4O, not H2O, we move on to methane, and ask the same question of its hydrogen bonds. Is Methane really that of H8C and not H4C.

    Well, looking in the literature for anomalies to methane, I come across a arXiv "Low and high-temperature anomalies in the physical properties of solid methane "The anomalous behavior of thermodynamic, spectral, plastic, elastic and some other
    properties of solid methane is discussed near 20.48K and...

    AP wonders: if they can get methane to solid form, well, I am then hopeful that the mass of the molecule can be determined. Because if methane is truly H8C, that difference of H4 in atomic mass units would be very much noticeable difference.

    Chemistry Europe--
    "The Anomalous Deuterium Isotope Effect in the NMR Spectrum of Methane...

    P Vermeeren, 2023
    "The abnormally long and weak methylidyne C-H bond.."
    "The C-H bond of the methylidyne radical, CH*, is abnormally long and weak, even longer and..."

    AP asks, are these anomalies solved if we consider methane is actually H8C and not H4C?

    AP


    My 250th published book.

    TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY; H2 is the hydrogen Atom and water is H4O, not H2O// Chemistry
    by Archimedes Plutonium (Author) (Amazon's Kindle)
    Prologue: This textbook is 1/2 research history and 1/2 factual textbook combined as one textbook. For many of the experiments described here-in have not yet been performed, such as water is really H4O not H2O. Written in a style of history research
    with date-time markers, and fact telling. And there are no problem sets. This book is intended for 1st year college. Until I include problem sets and exercises, I leave it to the professor and instructor to provide such. And also, chemistry is hugely a
    laboratory science, even more so than physics, so a first year college student in the lab to test whether Water is really H4O and not H2O is mighty educational.

    Preface: This is my 250th book of science, and the first of my textbooks on Teaching True Chemistry. I have completed the Teaching True Physics and the Teaching True Mathematics textbook series. But had not yet started on a Teaching True Chemistry
    textbook series. What got me started on this project is the fact that no chemistry textbook had the correct formula for water which is actually H4O and not H2O. Leaving the true formula for hydroxyl groups as H2O and not OH. But none of this is possible
    in Old Chemistry, Old Physics where they had do-nothing subatomic particles that sit around and do nothing or go whizzing around the outside of balls in a nucleus, in a mindless circling. Once every subatomic particle has a job, task, function, then
    water cannot be H2O but rather H4O. And a hydrogen atom cannot be H alone but is actually H2. H2 is not a molecule of hydrogen but a full fledged Atom, a single atom of hydrogen.

    Cover Picture: Sorry for the crude sketch work but chemistry and physics students are going to have to learn to make such sketches in a minute or less. Just as they make Lewis diagrams or ball & stick diagrams. My 4-5 minute sketch-work of the Water
    molecule H4O plus the subatomic particle H, and the hydrogen atom H2. Showing how one H is a proton torus with muon inside (blue color) doing the Faraday law. Protons are toruses with many windings. Protons are the coils in Faraday law while muons are
    the bar magnets. Neutrons are the capacitors as parallel plates, the outer skin cover of atoms.

    Product details
    • ASIN ‏ : ‎ B0CCLPTBDG
    • Publication date ‏ : ‎ July 21, 2023
    • Language ‏ : ‎ English
    • File size ‏ : ‎ 784 KB
    • Text-to-Speech ‏ : ‎ Enabled
    • Screen Reader ‏ : ‎ Supported
    • Enhanced typesetting ‏ : ‎ Enabled
    • X-Ray ‏ : ‎ Not Enabled
    • Word Wise ‏ : ‎ Enabled
    • Sticky notes ‏ : ‎ On Kindle Scribe
    • Print length ‏ : ‎ 160 pages






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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Fri Aug 4 06:09:24 2023
    On Monday, 17 July 2023 at 11:29:09 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 17 July 2023 at 11:16:16 UTC+10, Jim Pennino wrote:

    Online therapy

    Yes, yes, for all the lying e=mcc crooks.


    Looks like my one second video has cured them; or at least, tightened their "halwa".

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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Sat Aug 5 18:04:12 2023
    On Thursday, 1 June 2023 at 16:07:46 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Thursday, 1 June 2023 at 12:56:36 UTC+10, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    Arindam Banerjee why are you and Indian Institute of Tech too stupid to understand real electron of Atoms is the muon inside a 840MeV proton torus doing the Faraday law while the 0.5MeV particle is Dirac's Magnetic Monopole?? Why such physics idiocy??
    We do not care for gibberish in the IITs, Archie.
    Actually once we did, when I had to do the Quantum Mechanics course as a mandatory course.
    These days, I am told, it is optional.
    Progress, what.

    Arindam, do you want to be a physics failure all your life???
    As only Sir Isaac Newton is greater than I in physics, that is not a failure, Archie.
    Reducing all the Einsteinian pseudophysicists to the level of blithering baboons, and that too singlehandedly, is not such a great success as revising the Newtonian laws of motion, but interesting nevertheless.


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    Arindam Banerjee
    Only Sir Isaac Newton was handsomer.
    He had the same problems as I have, with the toxic academics.

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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Sat Aug 5 18:47:36 2023
    On Sunday, 16 July 2023 at 07:37:29 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 20:45:18 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 18:43:05 UTC+10, corella wrote:
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-14/india-to-launch-moon-rocket-chandrayaan-3/102583926

    Rockets are for fireworks. These are reverse-racist apists of Western trash. Internal Force Engines are the way to become aliens in outer space.
    https://www.facebook.com/arindam.banerjee.31149359/videos/1028532314980688 shows the power stroke, key to reactionless motors for unlimited speeds without rocket action that must throw out mass yet only reach limited speeds.
    (The mechanical reaction in the video is caused from rolling, MERCURY RAILS ARE NEEDED for the heavy armature to slide without pushing back the motor with treadmill action.)
    The arrested armature will give its momentum to the whole motor and the vehicle with it.
    In outer space, nothing to stop it! It will gain a velocity v with every hit with the power stroke. After N hits the speed will be Nv.
    In the second stroke, the armature has to be brought back to the original position.
    Then, again and again, with the hits.
    Millions of amperes of current are needed. For that, fuel cells are required powered by hydrogen and oxygen.

    Cheers,
    Arindam Banerjee

    Now this is the thingy that will take us to Mars in one day, as per modern state of the art in rocket science.
    Came up on my facebook page https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=7102513009777489&set=p.7102513009777489&type=3

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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Sat Aug 5 18:51:45 2023
    On Sunday, 6 August 2023 at 11:47:39 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Sunday, 16 July 2023 at 07:37:29 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 20:45:18 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 18:43:05 UTC+10, corella wrote:
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-14/india-to-launch-moon-rocket-chandrayaan-3/102583926

    Rockets are for fireworks. These are reverse-racist apists of Western trash. Internal Force Engines are the way to become aliens in outer space.
    https://www.facebook.com/arindam.banerjee.31149359/videos/1028532314980688 shows the power stroke, key to reactionless motors for unlimited speeds without rocket action that must throw out mass yet only reach limited speeds.
    (The mechanical reaction in the video is caused from rolling, MERCURY RAILS ARE NEEDED for the heavy armature to slide without pushing back the motor with treadmill action.)
    The arrested armature will give its momentum to the whole motor and the vehicle with it.
    In outer space, nothing to stop it! It will gain a velocity v with every hit with the power stroke. After N hits the speed will be Nv.
    In the second stroke, the armature has to be brought back to the original position.
    Then, again and again, with the hits.
    Millions of amperes of current are needed. For that, fuel cells are required powered by hydrogen and oxygen.

    Cheers,
    Arindam Banerjee
    Now this is the thingy that will take us to Mars in one day, as per modern state of the art in rocket science.
    Came up on my facebook page https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=7102513009777489&set=p.7102513009777489&type=3

    Problem is, though, that plasmic charge motion does not follow the mechanical momentum goings-on of all non-plasma rocket exhausts.
    Which is why ions escape the Sun's gravity, and neutrons with no net charge fall as lead.
    So even if you do manage to eject charge at near light speeds from the future rocket, that does not mean there will be forward momentum for the "ark".
    There can be superior technology to the reactionless impact drive, but this does not seem promising.

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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Sat Aug 5 20:22:10 2023
    On Sunday, 6 August 2023 at 11:51:48 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Sunday, 6 August 2023 at 11:47:39 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Sunday, 16 July 2023 at 07:37:29 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 20:45:18 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 18:43:05 UTC+10, corella wrote:
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-14/india-to-launch-moon-rocket-chandrayaan-3/102583926

    Rockets are for fireworks. These are reverse-racist apists of Western trash. Internal Force Engines are the way to become aliens in outer space.
    https://www.facebook.com/arindam.banerjee.31149359/videos/1028532314980688
    shows the power stroke, key to reactionless motors for unlimited speeds without rocket action that must throw out mass yet only reach limited speeds.
    (The mechanical reaction in the video is caused from rolling, MERCURY RAILS ARE NEEDED for the heavy armature to slide without pushing back the motor with treadmill action.)
    The arrested armature will give its momentum to the whole motor and the vehicle with it.
    In outer space, nothing to stop it! It will gain a velocity v with every hit with the power stroke. After N hits the speed will be Nv.
    In the second stroke, the armature has to be brought back to the original position.
    Then, again and again, with the hits.
    Millions of amperes of current are needed. For that, fuel cells are required powered by hydrogen and oxygen.

    Cheers,
    Arindam Banerjee
    Now this is the thingy that will take us to Mars in one day, as per modern state of the art in rocket science.
    Came up on my facebook page https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=7102513009777489&set=p.7102513009777489&type=3
    Problem is, though, that plasmic charge motion does not follow the mechanical momentum goings-on of all non-plasma rocket exhausts.
    Which is why ions escape the Sun's gravity, and neutrons with no net charge fall as lead.
    So even if you do manage to eject charge at near light speeds from the future rocket, that does not mean there will be forward momentum for the "ark".
    There can be superior technology to the reactionless impact drive, but this does not seem promising.
    Question now is, which approach will the public fund, what appears the most appealing?
    Evidently the big people are with the plasma rocket approach.
    What do small people think?

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  • From Sylvia Else@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Sun Aug 6 15:08:42 2023
    On 31-July-23 7:55 am, Arindam Banerjee wrote:


    Note my explanations in the text for this above post. "First testing
    of the latest rail gun with the heavy 7.163 Kg bullet that is heavier
    than the gun. It runs on 8.2 volts. If it ran at 1000 V it would send
    the bullet which could be a missile to hypersonic speeds.

    The video shows more or less constant velocity after a short period of acceleration. But even if the the acceleration were maintained, the
    current goes up with the voltage, and so does the acceleration. But the resulting velocity only goes up with the square root of the
    acceleration, and consequently only with the square root of the voltage.

    I'm rather doubtful of your hypersonic claim.

    Sylvia.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Aug 5 22:09:53 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    SENIOR OFFICIALS from as many as 40 countries�Russia not included�are
    heading to Saudi Arabia this weekend, for the latest attempt to build
    support for a peace process in Ukraine.


    Peace means war, right? D-Day...



    On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 22:30:30 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    I predict
    dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
    will make the month of August...D-day.


    Somewhere between August 2nd - and Aug, 7th.



    bookmark dis page.



    The Starmaker wrote:

    I heard dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...is still alive!

    It was kind of dark, so i couldn't see him well...but i recognize his
    voice..and it was definitely him,,,dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin).

    I guess he is getting ready for...D-Day!

    On Sun, 09 Jul 2023 12:28:46 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    I heard, (but i don't know if it's true)

    the Wagner guys are going to take Poland.


    Now, it's the best time to take Poland while yous have a pussy for
    President of the United States.


    The next President might not allow it.


    Everyone must always grab an ...opportunity.


    Biden will announced he will put sanctions on dat Wagner guy...cut off
    his PayPal account.


    Are Polish girls pretty????



    i wan some of dat!



    How many polish people does it take to change a light bulb?
    100, one to hold the bulb and ninety nine to spin the house.











    On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 21:05:41 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    ...and while the two bulldogs are
    fighting under the rug...

    now it's a good time for
    the little people of Russia to
    arm themselves and take Putin out.

    dat wagner guy would forgive them.

    Now is the time to stick a
    water hose down Putin's throat
    while he is already drowning.

    finish him off..



    The Starmaker wrote:

    So, Putin tells dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...
    "Don't worry, I'm dropping all treason charges and all dat other stuff". >> >>>
    Then Putin tells his friend.."KILL DAT MOTHERFUCKER!!!!"

    and his friend sez, "What about his all mercenary soldiers?"

    Putin sez, "Tell them to come in and they can all join my army."

    Then .."KILL ALL THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!"

    two bulldogs under a rug....

    who will come out..alive?

    The Starmaker wrote:

    My advise to this Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...stay aways from
    ...windows.

    The Starmaker wrote:

    if you people know anything about the mafia...
    you know Putin needs to rub out dat wagner guy, otherwise...

    EVERYBODY WILL WANT TO KNOCK OFF PUTIN!

    One of them has to die...soon.

    Which one is it going to be????

    (the wagner guy already made his move and now has the popular vote) >> >>> > >
    dis is not a game of chess..

    The Starmaker wrote:

    I heard the FBI needs your help..

    they are looking for this guy...anybody seen him around?

    https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif

    looks a liitle familiar..

    there is a reward out for him..$250,000.02

    https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif

    i tink i know where dis guy lives..

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Of course Putin is a chicken...he's got a lot more to lose than dat
    purse snatcher Wagner.

    One of those two has to...die.

    Which one are you rooting for? da gangster or da gangster?

    Why doesn't da Big Guy take them both out?

    well, we'll deal with wat ever gangster survies....

    Biden gots his own Crime Family to look after.

    Trump has to go after all the Crime Families in Washington!

    (luckly Trump has Rudy Giuliani to consult him...Rudy is an expert on
    Crime Families!)

    It's Kill or be Killed.

    You wanna make an omelete you gotta break some eggs.

    As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster. ...

    The Starmaker wrote:

    This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is trying to kill Putin, and
    Putin is trying to kill This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin). >> >>> > > > > >
    Who is going to win? The Gambino Family or the Bonano Family? >> >>> > > > > >
    Somebody is going to get hit on 46th Street...

    Mob Wars.

    Who gets to own the gas station on Putin Avenue?

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Looks to me..
    This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect
    President for Russia...he's strickly criminal. And

    looks to me
    he is going to vote himself in...
    and knock off Putin.

    Mob style.

    It's a Mafia state, why not?

    you gotta do it wit style.

    On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 23:36:35 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian

    https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C

    Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!

    Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...

    Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)

    (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
    In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
    While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
    There wasn�t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
    In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.

    Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
    the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
    a �beautiful� coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
    the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
    by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
    One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.

    "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?

    This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal.

    He's Putin's kind of guy...

    Do you know what "Putin's kind of guy..." means? Like a John Gotti
    underboss.

    Most of yous don't understand Putin and Russia.

    Russia in fact is a Mafia State. A country run by The Mafia. It's a
    Mafia country. Run by the Mafia.

    If you need a little more understanding...

    By Garry Kasparov
    When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question
    was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of
    Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its
    behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised
    at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions.

    Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this
    looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a
    businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign
    company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy
    marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as
    weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to
    terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is
    what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin
    regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of
    the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind
    the medieval red walls.

    Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part
    oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is
    partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in
    which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over
    this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain
    entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks.

    But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can
    recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by
    Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is
    of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for
    now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to
    the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario
    Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian
    government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr.
    Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start,
    but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian."

    The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is
    business, what is government, and what is criminal -- it's all there in
    Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees
    elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and
    Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin
    government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the
    intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep
    the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia.

    If a member of the inner circle goes against the Capo, his life is
    forfeit. Once Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky wanted to go
    straight and run his Yukos oil company as a legitimate corporation and
    not as another cog in Mr. Putin's KGB, Inc. He quickly found himself in
    a Siberian prison, his company dismantled and looted, and its pieces
    absorbed by the state mafia apparatus of Rosneft and Gazprom.

    The Yukos case has become a model. Private companies are absorbed into
    the state while at the same time the assets of the state companies move
    into private accounts.

    Alexander Litvinenko was a KGB agent who broke the loyalty code by
    fleeing to Britain. Worse, he violated the law of omert&agrave; by going
    to the press and even publishing books about the dirty deeds of Mr.
    Putin and his foot soldiers. Instead of being taken fishing in the
    old-fashioned Godfather style, he was killed in London in the first
    recorded case of nuclear terrorism. Now the Kremlin is refusing to hand
    over the main suspect in the murder.

    Mr. Putin can't understand Britain doing potential harm to its business
    interests over one human life. That's an alien concept. In his world,
    everything is negotiable. Morals and principles are just chips on the
    table in the Kremlin's game. There is no mere misunderstanding in the
    Litvinenko case; there are two different languages being spoken.

    In the civilized world, certain things are sacrosanct. Human life is not
    traded at the same table where business and diplomacy are discussed. But
    for Mr. Putin, it's a true no-limits game. Kosovo, the missile shield,
    pipeline deals, the Iranian nuclear program and democratic rights are
    all just cards to be played.



    Now, do you know who Mikhail Khodorkovsky is? He was head of the Jewish Mafia in Russia.

    When Putin got rid of Mikhail Khodorkovsky...all the other top Jewish Mafia guys ran to Israel.








    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge
    the unchallengeable.
    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, >> >>> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Sylvia Else on Sat Aug 5 22:59:38 2023
    On Sunday, 6 August 2023 at 15:08:47 UTC+10, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 31-July-23 7:55 am, Arindam Banerjee wrote:


    Note my explanations in the text for this above post. "First testing
    of the latest rail gun with the heavy 7.163 Kg bullet that is heavier
    than the gun. It runs on 8.2 volts. If it ran at 1000 V it would send
    the bullet which could be a missile to hypersonic speeds.
    The video shows more or less constant velocity after a short period of acceleration. But even if the the acceleration were maintained, the
    current goes up with the voltage, and so does the acceleration. But the resulting velocity only goes up with the square root of the
    acceleration, and consequently only with the square root of the voltage.

    Wow, this beats Archiebabble for sure.


    I'm rather doubtful of your hypersonic claim.

    Sylvia.

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  • From Sylvia Else@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Mon Aug 7 10:19:36 2023
    On 06-Aug-23 3:59 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Sunday, 6 August 2023 at 15:08:47 UTC+10, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 31-July-23 7:55 am, Arindam Banerjee wrote:


    Note my explanations in the text for this above post. "First testing
    of the latest rail gun with the heavy 7.163 Kg bullet that is heavier
    than the gun. It runs on 8.2 volts. If it ran at 1000 V it would send
    the bullet which could be a missile to hypersonic speeds.
    The video shows more or less constant velocity after a short period of
    acceleration. But even if the the acceleration were maintained, the
    current goes up with the voltage, and so does the acceleration. But the
    resulting velocity only goes up with the square root of the
    acceleration, and consequently only with the square root of the voltage.

    Wow, this beats Archiebabble for sure.


    I'm rather doubtful of your hypersonic claim.

    Sylvia.

    I take it you don't understand the elementary physics involved.

    Sylvia.

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  • From whodat@21:1/5 to Sylvia Else on Sun Aug 6 19:43:11 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    On 8/6/2023 7:19 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 06-Aug-23 3:59 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Sunday, 6 August 2023 at 15:08:47 UTC+10, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 31-July-23 7:55 am, Arindam Banerjee wrote:


    Note my explanations in the text for this above post. "First testing
    of the latest rail gun with the heavy 7.163 Kg bullet that is heavier
    than the gun. It runs on 8.2 volts. If it ran at 1000 V it would send
    the bullet which could be a missile to hypersonic speeds.
    The video shows more or less constant velocity after a short period of
    acceleration. But even if the the acceleration were maintained, the
    current goes up with the voltage, and so does the acceleration. But the
    resulting velocity only goes up with the square root of the
    acceleration, and consequently only with the square root of the voltage.

    Wow, this beats Archiebabble for sure.


    I'm rather doubtful of your hypersonic claim.

    Sylvia.

    I take it you don't understand the elementary physics involved.

    Sylvia.

    I don't know if you've followed Banerjee's posts over a longer
    period of time, but a while back he admitted that he skipped
    a lot of classes and even paid others to take exams for him,
    so his actual exposure to the subject matter he propounds is
    often just guesswork on his part. But bear in mind that he
    reverts to having received the blessings of the appropriate
    (according to his religion) gods and goddesses where it comes
    to his alleged knowledge. That seems to work quite well with
    his Indian and Pakistani Facebook friends, his fall back
    criteria supporting his arrogance where it comes to his
    being a self-proclaimed expert in any field he deems of
    interest to him. Early in our discussions he acknowledged
    he had been diagnosed a narcissist.

    So long as he has his religious underpinnings and his "Facebook"
    experts supporting him the only discussions available will
    forever remain devoid of reasonability and logic under any
    western standards. I withdrew from discussions with him for
    such reasons. I harbor no animosity towards him while I
    generally avoid commenting. I applaud your attempts to reason
    with him but have no faith that they will accomplish anything.

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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Sylvia Else on Sun Aug 6 18:02:02 2023
    On Monday, 7 August 2023 at 10:19:41 UTC+10, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 06-Aug-23 3:59 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Sunday, 6 August 2023 at 15:08:47 UTC+10, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 31-July-23 7:55 am, Arindam Banerjee wrote:


    Note my explanations in the text for this above post. "First testing
    of the latest rail gun with the heavy 7.163 Kg bullet that is heavier >>> than the gun. It runs on 8.2 volts. If it ran at 1000 V it would send >>> the bullet which could be a missile to hypersonic speeds.
    The video shows more or less constant velocity after a short period of
    acceleration. But even if the the acceleration were maintained, the
    current goes up with the voltage, and so does the acceleration. But the >> resulting velocity only goes up with the square root of the
    acceleration, and consequently only with the square root of the voltage.

    Wow, this beats Archiebabble for sure.


    I'm rather doubtful of your hypersonic claim.

    Sylvia.
    I take it you don't understand the elementary physics involved.

    I am sure you and your sort have forgotten what you may perhaps have learnt about Newtonian equations in middle school about physics, what with the e=mcc=hv expensive and disastrous nonsenses.


    Problem is, that when e=mcc abuse of reason and science is done, institutions like MIT go sadly astray.
    As we can see from the following in my facebook timeline from one MIT guy whose school has gone biotech!
    Well what to do, if they follow the wrong rocket science approach, they are bound to fail.

    ***
    For instance, the electromagnet for our MHD generator at Tech consumed a lot of power. The generator never produced more than 10% of(-)power than consumed...
    But the geometry of the UFO eliminates the need for the electromagnet[EM].👈 A stationary charge creates an electric "E" field.
    A moving charge creates an EM field
    BUT, Tech does not believe in ufos...
    And, my MHD generator is gone & the school focused on biotech.

    ****

    My response:
    It is sad to see that MIT is doing such nonsense. They must be under the influence of Einsteinians. They would do much much better to follow my new physics that updates Newtonian mechanics by adjusting the laws of motion. Had I been taken seriously in
    2000 when I published my book "To the stars!" we could be making hourly trips to the Moon today. Anyway all info is there online and the relevant links are accessible in Sci.physics

    Sylvia.

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to Volney on Sun Aug 6 18:02:13 2023
    Can_Dr.Martin Karplus,Dr.Arieh Warshel,Dr.Roger Kornberg,Dr.Walter Gilbert,Dr.Elias J. Corey,Dr.Dudley R. Herschbach,Dr.William N. Lipscomb,Dr.Robert Burns Woodward,Dr.T.W. Richards - -PLEASE--step into Harvard Univ physics or chemistry lab and weigh the
    mass of Electrolysis Water, proving Water is H4O not H2O. AP's homegrown lab cannot do the fine tuning experiment of weighing a test tube of electrolyzed hydrogen and oxygen from water. If AP is correct Water is really H4O, not H2O. My weighing scale is
    puny and insufficient for the job at hand, 0.00001 gram or less of hydrogen and oxygen test tubes. If AP is correct the hydrogen is 1/4 the weight of oxygen, if mainstream chemistry, physics is correct the hydrogen is 1/8 in amu to oxygen.


    Can Harvard run a electrolysis experiment on Water, for I believe water is really H4O and not H2O.

    Harvard did have a Nobel Chemistry winners in Martin Karplus, Arieh Warshel, Roger Kornberg, Walter Gilbert, Elias J. Corey, Dudley R. Herschbach, William N. Lipscomb, Robert Burns Woodward, T.W. Richards.

    If AP is correct the hydrogen test tube weighs 1/4 of the oxygen in atomic mass units. If mainstream chemistry and physics is correct, the hydrogen test tube weighs 1/8 of the oxygen test tube in a.m.u.

    Would the physicists and chemists of Harvard be interested in conducting the experiment. My home grown lab cannot weigh to 0.00001 gram or less.



    On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 1:09:50 PM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    "Pope of Failure"
    ... Village Idiot"

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    On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 12:09:52 AM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
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    Kibo Parry M-Volney the ranting lunatic of sci. newsgroups for 30 years nonstop
    On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 8:12:58 AM UTC-5, Volney wrote: >"antiscience"
    humiliates himself by writing:



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    Re: Univ Dayton Eric Spina, why Kibo hate The Pope? He continues to defile The Pope? Can you stop him, for he has defiled and demonized AP for 30 years nonstop, are you going to let him defile the Pope for 30 years???? And Todd B.Smith, how is your

    Re: Archimedes "Pope of Failure" Plutonium flunked the math test of a lifetime-generation test
    by Volney Feb 24, 2023, 11:28:40 PM


    On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 9:28:07 PM UTC-6, Volney wrote: Re: Archimedes "Pope of Failure" Plutonium flunked the math test of a lifetime-generation test
    "self diagnosed as insane"

    Re: Archimedes "Pope of Failure" Plutonium flunked the math test of a lifetime-generation test
    by Volney Mar 31, 2023, 1:45:31 AM


    Univ Dayton Eric Spina, why Kibo hate The Pope? He continues to defile The Pope? Can you stop him, for he has defiled and demonized AP for 30 years nonstop, are you going to let him defile the Pope for 30 years???? And Todd B.Smith, how is your reading
    of AP's TEACHING TRUE PHYSICS and TEACHING TRUE MATH textbook series (see below) coming along. I would answer any questions you may have, provided they are serious questions.

    Kibo Parry Moroney-Volney, an open hate channel--
    Can_University Dayton --Please- please-step into the Univ Dayton, Ohio physics or chemistry lab and weigh the mass of Electrolysis Water, proving Water is H4O not H2O.

    +Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within

    +Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within

    3m views Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium


    Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within the accuracy I need for weighing a test tube of oxygen then a test tube of hydrogen from water electrolysis.


    Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium

    In Old Chemistry and Old Physics, their subatomic particles were do nothing and no function and no job particles that sit around as balls or whiz around the outside of balls doing nothing but pointless circling.

    In New Physics and New Chemistry-- All is Atom and Atoms are nothing but electricity and magnetism. Every subatomic particle has a job a function a purpose as to the Laws of Electromagnetism--- Faraday law, Coulomb law, Ampere law, Capacitor
    law.

    A proton is a torus of 840MeV with 840 windings, while the muon is the true electron of Atoms and is encased inside the proton torus thrusting through and producing electricity-- magnetic monopoles.

    The neutron of Atoms is a parallel plate capacitor storing the electricity of proton+muon and is skin cover on the outside of the proton torus in the form of parallel plates.

    Can hydrogen be a Atom if it is just a proton+muon? No, all atoms require to have a capacitor such as at least one neutron. Thus the Hydrogen Atom is H2 where you have 2 proton+muon where 1 of the 2 proton+muon acts like a neutron to the other
    proton+muon. Thus, water molecule is not H2O but rather is H4O.

    AP is waiting for experimental chemists and physicists to prove him correct that Water is H4O.

    In the meantime we have Hydroxyl which in Old Chemistry, especially Biology is OH, while AP says that is wrong and that is really H2O.

    Now glycerine is a hydroxyl with formula C3H8O3. And what I am thinking at this moment, is that hydroxyls will be an easier proof that Water is truly H4O, rather than wait for experimentalists to actually "weigh the electrolysis test tubes of
    oxygen and hydrogen".

    You see, with H4O as water, glycerine is C3(2 waters)O with an extra oxygen. If Water is H2O then glycerine is C3(4 waters) deficit O. It is missing an oxygen if water is H2O.

    The reason glycerine is so effective as a skin ointment is because it has glycerine, the extra O oxygen. If water were H2O, then glycerine would be a missing oxygen and not a skin lotion that works, but makes skin even more dry.

    Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium

    Archimedes Plutonium<[email protected]>
    12:24 AM (13 hours ago)



    to Plutonium Atom Universe

    --- quoting in part from source-- Study.com ---
    Perhaps there is only two Faraday laws on Electrolysis. I am looking at the one that states: Faraday's first law of electrolysis relates the mass of a substance liberated (or deposited) at an electrode to the electric charge used (Q). A
    proportionality constant Z can be used:

    m = ZQ = (E/96485)(Q)

    m = mass, Q = total charge rewritten as Q = I*t amperes x time in seconds.

    This website gives an example: 5amps passed through molten Sodium Chloride for 3 hours. Calculate the mass of Sodium. E=23/1.

    m = (23/96485) (5) (3*60*60) approx 12.87 grams.

    --- end quoting in part from source-- Study.com ---

    Now has such a experiment been performed on Water to see how much atomic mass of hydrogen and of oxygen results??? If AP is correct, the formula of water is H4O, if Old Physics, Old Chemistry is correct the formula is H2O. So which is it???

    AP


    No, sorry no, Faraday's Law of Electrolysis is not going to tell the correct mass of hydrogen.

    Reading Wikipedia on Faraday's Electrolysis law.

    --- quoting Wikipedia ---
    A monovalent ion requires 1 electron for discharge, a divalent ion requires 2 electrons for discharge and so on. Thus, if x electrons flow,
    x/v atoms are discharged.

    So the mass m discharged is

    m= (xM)/vN_A) = (QM)/(eN_A *v) = (QM) / (vF)
    where
    N_A is the Avogadro constant;
    Q = xe is the total charge, equal to the number of electrons (x) times the elementary charge e;
    F is the Faraday constant.
    --- end quoting Wikipedia ---

    No, the Faraday law of Electrolysis will not work on water with a correct answer, because H is not an atom but H2 is an Atom. And where one of the proton+muon converts to being a neutron to the other proton+muon.

    So if Faraday's law of Electrolysis was applied to water, thinking it would deliver a true answer is mistaken because the one H converts to neutron.

    So it appears that we need to directly measure the test tube of oxygen and the test tube of hydrogen by a direct mass measurement.

    AP
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    I doubt we can measure a test tube of hydrogen or test tube of oxygen, too small to determine the mass on some sort of weight scale.

    But here is a possible lucrative idea. We should be able to get pure deuterium water. Then run the electrolysis. Collect the test tubes.

    Now have some sort of balancing beam weight scale. Place the regular water of hydrogen test tube on one side, and place the deuterium water hydrogen test tube on other side. If they stay balanced, then AP is correct and Water is really H4O.

    AP
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    to Plutonium Atom Universe
    Cosmic Rays from Sun

    90% of Sun's cosmic rays are 840MeV proton+muon inside = H. The hydrogen Atom is H2 where one of the H proton+muon converts to being a neutron.

    When these proton+muon hit Earth atmosphere, they can turn into pions and muons.

    I commented that H alone is a subatomic particle and that makes sense in the idea that Sun's cosmic rays are 90% these proton+muon.

    Now is interstellar hydrogen H2 and intergalactic hydrogen H2 formed when one H cosmic ray joins up with another H cosmic ray to form H2 atom?

    Is this how we get H2 in outer space? From the splitting apart of H2 into H cosmic rays?

    So how much of the Sun's hydrogen is H2 and how much is H ready to join with another H and reform back into H2. Probably little of the Sun's H is H alone, and the vast majority of the Sun's hydrogen is H2.

    How much deuterium in the Sun? And it is a higher percentage than the deuterium in water on Earth?

    AP
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    to Plutonium Atom Universe
    Water is the only known non-metallic substance that expands when if freezes; its density decreases and it expands approximately 9% by volume. (Source: web Lunar and Planetary Institute)

    I have to wait for experimental chemists and physicists to weigh the mass of test tubes from electrolysis, as to the verdict-- water is H4O.

    But until that news comes in, I will look for other means of proof.

    So AP says that the H2 is not a molecule but is the hydrogen Atom itself, where one proton+muon converts to a neutron and capacitates the other proton+muon which undergo the Faraday law.

    There are subatomic particles of H in the form of Cosmic Rays from the Sun, but most of the Sun's hydrogen is H2, and flips back and forth from H to rejoining to form H2. Some gets away from the Sun and is cosmic rays.

    But H2 is an Atom and H is a fleeting subatomic particle.

    So can I prove Water is H4O from the data of Spectral lines of H2 is the same as deuterium, only slight difference is that the deuterium is a full fledged neutron not a makeshift proton+muon of H.

    I suspect that special trait of water freezing is a proof that Water is H4O. Because the 840MeV proton torus with muon inside doing the Faraday law acting as a makeshift neutron capacitor for the other 840MeV proton torus with muon inside, is
    where H2 gets that expansion characteristic.

    A neutron is a parallel plate capacitor and those plates can expand when frozen temperature occurs. As the temperature gets colder, those plates move further apart.

    Now does deuterium which truly has a full neutron, does it expand also when frozen?? If so, does it expand as much as H2 which is 2 protons with 2 muons inside?

    So comparing the freezing and expansion of the parallel plates of a neutron in deuterium with the freezing and expansion of one of the proton+muon that is acting as a makeshift neutron in H2.

    If I can numbers correlate the H2 expansion with the Deuterium expansion would be a alternative proof that Water is really H4O and not H2O.

    AP
    to
    So now on Blankenship's book "Molecular Mechanisms of Photosynthesis", 2014, page 134, shows The structure of ATP, ADP, AMP. And within that structure are OH hydroxyls.

    In New Chemistry, water is truly H4O, and where hydroxyls are now H2O. And we have first proof of this in the Figure 8.1 of Blankenship's "Chemical structure of ATP".

    For in the lower left corner of the diagram, Blankenship has a H+ all alone, (really a mindless error) and has P surrounded by O-, O-, O and OH. The OH is really H2O for hydroxyls are H2O and water itself is H4O, and that would leave that
    mindless H+ as being hydrogen Atom of H2.

    The world of physics and chemistry should drop what they are doing and weigh the electrolysis test tube of hydrogen and oxygen to discover the correct true formula of water is H4O.

    AP is total confident, becuase an Atom cannot exist if it has no capacitor structure such as a neutron, or one of the H in H2 acting as a neutron. I am totally confident that Water formula is truly H4O. And I need look only to methane of H4C,
    to realize that there is no HC, no H2C, no H3C, but starts with H4C, and that tells me water starts with H4O. Totally confident that Old Chemistry, Old Physics did electrolysis experiments and the moment they saw hydrogen test tube be 2x volume of oxygen
    test tube, they dropped their work and went out for a Danish and coffee break, rather than finish their work--- actual physics weighing of atomic mass units (not the Faraday electrolysis law for it does not apply to water).

    When water electrolysis is physics weighed, AP is confident that there are 4H per every one oxygen O. And that Water is truly H4O.

    AP, King of Science
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    to
    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 8:56:57 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within the accuracy I need for weighing a test tube of oxygen then a test tube of hydrogen from water electrolysis.

    Now modern day physics and chemist experimenters can really do a marvelous job if they wanted to. For they could freeze the test tubes of oxygen and hydrogen to where they are liquid and compare liquids from water electrolysis.
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    to
    So, what AP is saying here is that we do electrolysis of water. We collect the two test tubes, one with oxygen the other with hydrogen.

    To prove Water is truly the formula H4O and not H2O we must weigh the masses of the two tubes to find that the ratio is 1 x 16amu to 4 x 1amu.

    The silly grotesque science error of the past was to look at volumes in the two test tubes-- "Hey-- the hydrogen is twice the volume of oxygen so the formula of water is H2O".

    No, way was that science good practice. For the correct formula of water needs to be measured by mass, by atomic mass units where Oxygen is 16amu and hydrogen is 1amu.

    I suspect a balance beam scale is good enough to see the hydrogen test tube will be 1/4 as massive as the oxygen test tube. To get within precision of electronic weighing scale of 0.00001 gram we just have to make a larger test tube of
    electrolysis of water.

    AP is betting that the readings will be hydrogen test tube 1/4 the mass of oxygen test tube proving Water formula is truly H4O.

    Old Physics and Old Chemistry is betting that the mass experiment will have the hydrogen test tube be 1/8 the mass of the oxygen test tube, proving Water formula is H2O.

    AP does not have these precision equipment to conduct an at-home experiment of this nature.

    AP
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    to
    So, once Water is found to actually be H4O, not H2O, we move on to methane, and ask the same question of its hydrogen bonds. Is Methane really that of H8C and not H4C.

    Well, looking in the literature for anomalies to methane, I come across a arXiv "Low and high-temperature anomalies in the physical properties of solid methane "The anomalous behavior of thermodynamic, spectral, plastic, elastic and some other
    properties of solid methane is discussed near 20.48K and...

    AP wonders: if they can get methane to solid form, well, I am then hopeful that the mass of the molecule can be determined. Because if methane is truly H8C, that difference of H4 in atomic mass units would be very much noticeable difference.

    Chemistry Europe--
    "The Anomalous Deuterium Isotope Effect in the NMR Spectrum of Methane...

    P Vermeeren, 2023
    "The abnormally long and weak methylidyne C-H bond.."
    "The C-H bond of the methylidyne radical, CH*, is abnormally long and weak, even longer and..."

    AP asks, are these anomalies solved if we consider methane is actually H8C and not H4C?

    AP


    My 250th published book.

    TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY; H2 is the hydrogen Atom and water is H4O, not H2O// Chemistry
    by Archimedes Plutonium (Author) (Amazon's Kindle)
    Prologue: This textbook is 1/2 research history and 1/2 factual textbook combined as one textbook. For many of the experiments described here-in have not yet been performed, such as water is really H4O not H2O. Written in a style of history research
    with date-time markers, and fact telling. And there are no problem sets. This book is intended for 1st year college. Until I include problem sets and exercises, I leave it to the professor and instructor to provide such. And also, chemistry is hugely a
    laboratory science, even more so than physics, so a first year college student in the lab to test whether Water is really H4O and not H2O is mighty educational.

    Preface: This is my 250th book of science, and the first of my textbooks on Teaching True Chemistry. I have completed the Teaching True Physics and the Teaching True Mathematics textbook series. But had not yet started on a Teaching True Chemistry
    textbook series. What got me started on this project is the fact that no chemistry textbook had the correct formula for water which is actually H4O and not H2O. Leaving the true formula for hydroxyl groups as H2O and not OH. But none of this is possible
    in Old Chemistry, Old Physics where they had do-nothing subatomic particles that sit around and do nothing or go whizzing around the outside of balls in a nucleus, in a mindless circling. Once every subatomic particle has a job, task, function, then
    water cannot be H2O but rather H4O. And a hydrogen atom cannot be H alone but is actually H2. H2 is not a molecule of hydrogen but a full fledged Atom, a single atom of hydrogen.

    Cover Picture: Sorry for the crude sketch work but chemistry and physics students are going to have to learn to make such sketches in a minute or less. Just as they make Lewis diagrams or ball & stick diagrams. My 4-5 minute sketch-work of the Water
    molecule H4O plus the subatomic particle H, and the hydrogen atom H2. Showing how one H is a proton torus with muon inside (blue color) doing the Faraday law. Protons are toruses with many windings. Protons are the coils in Faraday law while muons are
    the bar magnets. Neutrons are the capacitors as parallel plates, the outer skin cover of atoms.

    Product details
    • ASIN ‏ : ‎ B0CCLPTBDG
    • Publication date ‏ : ‎ July 21, 2023
    • Language ‏ : ‎ English
    • File size ‏ : ‎ 788 KB
    • Text-to-Speech ‏ : ‎ Enabled
    • Screen Reader ‏ : ‎ Supported
    • Enhanced typesetting ‏ : ‎ Enabled
    • X-Ray ‏ : ‎ Not Enabled
    • Word Wise ‏ : ‎ Enabled
    • Sticky notes ‏ : ‎ On Kindle Scribe
    • Print length ‏ : ‎ 168 pages






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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to whodat on Sun Aug 6 18:17:48 2023
    On Monday, 7 August 2023 at 10:43:18 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    (after consuming lots of laxatives supplied by Archie)

    I don't know if you've followed Banerjee's posts over a longer
    period of time, but a while back he admitted that he skipped
    a lot of classes and even paid others to take exams for him,

    I did skip some classes in IIT Kgp and IIT Delhi because I had to, but whodumbo is lying (what is new) when he writes that I paid others to take exams for me. As a liar, whodumbo is perfectly reliable, and in his way, quite funny. Makes me laugh.

    Best lie was about the slope of my garage shed. It had to be sloped, in order for the armature to roll down by gravity! !!! The moron Moroney, being just a moron and not such a liar, has his halwa tight on this, not even suggesting that I pushed the
    armature with one finger of mine.

    rotflw4pita

    I got a First Class Honours degree for my B.Tech. in Electronics and Electrical Communication Engineering from IIT Kharagpur in 1978, never failed a single subject.
    As I was elected the top student representative (Vice President of the Gymkhana) in 1977, I had extra responsibilities, so sometimes had to skip classes.
    I got M.Tech in Computer Science from the Mathematics Department of IIT Delhi in 1986, studying part time while working full time. As I was working full-time, I could not attend all the classes. Quite normal. For my thesis, I worked on a totally new area,
    "Information Systems based on Partial-Match Retrievals" which anticipated googling. My paper "A new method for partial match retrievals" was published in 1987 in US, my company paid for me to go there, and so all the wonders that followed. In this, and
    in many other areas.

    Anyway, my degrees have nothing to do with my inventions and discoveries relating to Internal Force Engines. My work experience in the top industrial research facilities in India and Australia mean much more.

    Cheers,
    Arindam Banerjee

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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Sun Aug 6 18:41:37 2023
    On Monday, 7 August 2023 at 11:02:06 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 7 August 2023 at 10:19:41 UTC+10, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 06-Aug-23 3:59 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Sunday, 6 August 2023 at 15:08:47 UTC+10, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 31-July-23 7:55 am, Arindam Banerjee wrote:


    Note my explanations in the text for this above post. "First testing >>> of the latest rail gun with the heavy 7.163 Kg bullet that is heavier >>> than the gun. It runs on 8.2 volts. If it ran at 1000 V it would send >>> the bullet which could be a missile to hypersonic speeds.
    The video shows more or less constant velocity after a short period of >> acceleration. But even if the the acceleration were maintained, the
    current goes up with the voltage, and so does the acceleration. But the >> resulting velocity only goes up with the square root of the
    acceleration, and consequently only with the square root of the voltage.

    Wow, this beats Archiebabble for sure.


    I'm rather doubtful of your hypersonic claim.

    Sylvia.
    I take it you don't understand the elementary physics involved.
    I am sure you and your sort have forgotten what you may perhaps have learnt about Newtonian equations in middle school about physics, what with the e=mcc=hv expensive and disastrous nonsenses.


    Problem is, that when e=mcc abuse of reason and science is done, institutions like MIT go sadly astray.
    As we can see from the following in my facebook timeline from one MIT guy whose school has gone biotech!
    Well what to do, if they follow the wrong rocket science approach, they are bound to fail.

    https://spacepropulsion.mit.edu/about-electric-propulsion?fbclid=IwAR1kU2rT2erPQA72EztHLtScM4AY7ga8RPOKstZ5EOjiZ6qIZGw3M7DQImg

    ***
    For instance, the electromagnet for our MHD generator at Tech consumed a lot of power. The generator never produced more than 10% of(-)power than consumed...
    But the geometry of the UFO eliminates the need for the electromagnet[EM].👈
    A stationary charge creates an electric "E" field.
    A moving charge creates an EM field
    BUT, Tech does not believe in ufos...
    And, my MHD generator is gone & the school focused on biotech.

    ****

    My response:
    It is sad to see that MIT is doing such nonsense. They must be under the influence of Einsteinians. They would do much much better to follow my new physics that updates Newtonian mechanics by adjusting the laws of motion. Had I been taken seriously in
    2000 when I published my book "To the stars!" we could be making hourly trips to the Moon today. Anyway all info is there online and the relevant links are accessible in Sci.physics

    Sylvia.

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  • From Sylvia Else@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Mon Aug 7 14:14:53 2023
    On 07-Aug-23 11:02 am, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 7 August 2023 at 10:19:41 UTC+10, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 06-Aug-23 3:59 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Sunday, 6 August 2023 at 15:08:47 UTC+10, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 31-July-23 7:55 am, Arindam Banerjee wrote:


    Note my explanations in the text for this above post. "First testing >>>>> of the latest rail gun with the heavy 7.163 Kg bullet that is heavier >>>>> than the gun. It runs on 8.2 volts. If it ran at 1000 V it would send >>>>> the bullet which could be a missile to hypersonic speeds.
    The video shows more or less constant velocity after a short period of >>>> acceleration. But even if the the acceleration were maintained, the
    current goes up with the voltage, and so does the acceleration. But the >>>> resulting velocity only goes up with the square root of the
    acceleration, and consequently only with the square root of the voltage. >>>
    Wow, this beats Archiebabble for sure.


    I'm rather doubtful of your hypersonic claim.

    Sylvia.
    I take it you don't understand the elementary physics involved.

    I am sure you and your sort have forgotten what you may perhaps have learnt about Newtonian equations in middle school about physics, what with the e=mcc=hv expensive and disastrous nonsenses.


    Problem is, that when e=mcc abuse of reason and science is done, institutions like MIT go sadly astray.
    As we can see from the following in my facebook timeline from one MIT guy whose school has gone biotech!
    Well what to do, if they follow the wrong rocket science approach, they are bound to fail.

    I don't know why you'd bring up energy-mass equivalence here. It has
    nothing to do with the simple Newtonian equations that yield the result
    I described.

    Sylvia.

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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Sylvia Else on Sun Aug 6 21:52:45 2023
    On Monday, 7 August 2023 at 14:15:00 UTC+10, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 07-Aug-23 11:02 am, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 7 August 2023 at 10:19:41 UTC+10, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 06-Aug-23 3:59 pm, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Sunday, 6 August 2023 at 15:08:47 UTC+10, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 31-July-23 7:55 am, Arindam Banerjee wrote:


    Note my explanations in the text for this above post. "First testing >>>>> of the latest rail gun with the heavy 7.163 Kg bullet that is heavier >>>>> than the gun. It runs on 8.2 volts. If it ran at 1000 V it would send >>>>> the bullet which could be a missile to hypersonic speeds.
    The video shows more or less constant velocity after a short period of >>>> acceleration. But even if the the acceleration were maintained, the
    current goes up with the voltage, and so does the acceleration. But the >>>> resulting velocity only goes up with the square root of the
    acceleration, and consequently only with the square root of the voltage. >>>
    Wow, this beats Archiebabble for sure.


    I'm rather doubtful of your hypersonic claim.

    Sylvia.
    I take it you don't understand the elementary physics involved.

    I am sure you and your sort have forgotten what you may perhaps have learnt about Newtonian equations in middle school about physics, what with the e=mcc=hv expensive and disastrous nonsenses.


    Problem is, that when e=mcc abuse of reason and science is done, institutions like MIT go sadly astray.
    As we can see from the following in my facebook timeline from one MIT guy whose school has gone biotech!
    Well what to do, if they follow the wrong rocket science approach, they are bound to fail.
    I don't know why you'd bring up energy-mass equivalence here. It has
    nothing to do with the simple Newtonian equations that yield the result
    I described.

    Sylvia.

    You descrbe nothing but your incompetence.

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 7 09:57:06 2023
    Can_Dr.Walter Gilbert,Dr.Martin Karplus,Dr.Arieh Warshel,Dr.Roger Kornberg,Dr.Elias J. Corey,Dr.Dudley R. Herschbach,Dr.William N. Lipscomb,Dr.Robert Burns Woodward,Dr.T.W. Richards - -PLEASE--step into Harvard Univ physics or chemistry lab and weigh the
    mass of Electrolysis Water, proving Water is H4O not H2O. AP's homegrown lab cannot do the fine tuning experiment of weighing a test tube of electrolyzed hydrogen and oxygen from water. If AP is correct Water is really H4O, not H2O. My weighing scale is
    puny and insufficient for the job at hand, 0.00001 gram or less of hydrogen and oxygen test tubes. If AP is correct the hydrogen is 1/4 the weight of oxygen, if mainstream chemistry, physics is correct the hydrogen is 1/8 in amu to oxygen.


    Can Harvard run a electrolysis experiment on Water, for I believe water is really H4O and not H2O.

    Harvard did have a Nobel Chemistry winners in Martin Karplus, Arieh Warshel, Roger Kornberg, Walter Gilbert, Elias J. Corey, Dudley R. Herschbach, William N. Lipscomb, Robert Burns Woodward, T.W. Richards.

    If AP is correct the hydrogen test tube weighs 1/4 of the oxygen in atomic mass units. If mainstream chemistry and physics is correct, the hydrogen test tube weighs 1/8 of the oxygen test tube in a.m.u.

    Would the physicists and chemists of Harvard be interested in conducting the experiment. My home grown lab cannot weigh to 0.00001 gram or less.
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    ... Village Idiot"

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    On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 12:09:52 AM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
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    Kibo Parry M-Volney the ranting lunatic of sci. newsgroups for 30 years nonstop
    On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 8:12:58 AM UTC-5, Volney wrote: >"antiscience"
    humiliates himself by writing:



    Harvard Physics dept
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    Re: Univ Dayton Eric Spina, why Kibo hate The Pope? He continues to defile The Pope? Can you stop him, for he has defiled and demonized AP for 30 years nonstop, are you going to let him defile the Pope for 30 years???? And Todd B.Smith, how is your

    Re: Archimedes "Pope of Failure" Plutonium flunked the math test of a lifetime-generation test
    by Volney Feb 24, 2023, 11:28:40 PM


    On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 9:28:07 PM UTC-6, Volney wrote: Re: Archimedes "Pope of Failure" Plutonium flunked the math test of a lifetime-generation test
    "self diagnosed as insane"

    Re: Archimedes "Pope of Failure" Plutonium flunked the math test of a lifetime-generation test
    by Volney Mar 31, 2023, 1:45:31 AM


    Univ Dayton Eric Spina, why Kibo hate The Pope? He continues to defile The Pope? Can you stop him, for he has defiled and demonized AP for 30 years nonstop, are you going to let him defile the Pope for 30 years???? And Todd B.Smith, how is your
    reading of AP's TEACHING TRUE PHYSICS and TEACHING TRUE MATH textbook series (see below) coming along. I would answer any questions you may have, provided they are serious questions.

    Kibo Parry Moroney-Volney, an open hate channel--
    Can_University Dayton --Please- please-step into the Univ Dayton, Ohio physics or chemistry lab and weigh the mass of Electrolysis Water, proving Water is H4O not H2O.

    +Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within

    +Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within

    3m views Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium


    Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within the accuracy I need for weighing a test tube of oxygen then a test tube of hydrogen from water electrolysis.


    Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium

    In Old Chemistry and Old Physics, their subatomic particles were do nothing and no function and no job particles that sit around as balls or whiz around the outside of balls doing nothing but pointless circling.

    In New Physics and New Chemistry-- All is Atom and Atoms are nothing but electricity and magnetism. Every subatomic particle has a job a function a purpose as to the Laws of Electromagnetism--- Faraday law, Coulomb law, Ampere law, Capacitor
    law.

    A proton is a torus of 840MeV with 840 windings, while the muon is the true electron of Atoms and is encased inside the proton torus thrusting through and producing electricity-- magnetic monopoles.

    The neutron of Atoms is a parallel plate capacitor storing the electricity of proton+muon and is skin cover on the outside of the proton torus in the form of parallel plates.

    Can hydrogen be a Atom if it is just a proton+muon? No, all atoms require to have a capacitor such as at least one neutron. Thus the Hydrogen Atom is H2 where you have 2 proton+muon where 1 of the 2 proton+muon acts like a neutron to the
    other proton+muon. Thus, water molecule is not H2O but rather is H4O.

    AP is waiting for experimental chemists and physicists to prove him correct that Water is H4O.

    In the meantime we have Hydroxyl which in Old Chemistry, especially Biology is OH, while AP says that is wrong and that is really H2O.

    Now glycerine is a hydroxyl with formula C3H8O3. And what I am thinking at this moment, is that hydroxyls will be an easier proof that Water is truly H4O, rather than wait for experimentalists to actually "weigh the electrolysis test tubes of
    oxygen and hydrogen".

    You see, with H4O as water, glycerine is C3(2 waters)O with an extra oxygen. If Water is H2O then glycerine is C3(4 waters) deficit O. It is missing an oxygen if water is H2O.

    The reason glycerine is so effective as a skin ointment is because it has glycerine, the extra O oxygen. If water were H2O, then glycerine would be a missing oxygen and not a skin lotion that works, but makes skin even more dry.

    Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium

    Archimedes Plutonium<[email protected]>
    12:24 AM (13 hours ago)



    to Plutonium Atom Universe

    --- quoting in part from source-- Study.com ---
    Perhaps there is only two Faraday laws on Electrolysis. I am looking at the one that states: Faraday's first law of electrolysis relates the mass of a substance liberated (or deposited) at an electrode to the electric charge used (Q). A
    proportionality constant Z can be used:

    m = ZQ = (E/96485)(Q)

    m = mass, Q = total charge rewritten as Q = I*t amperes x time in seconds.

    This website gives an example: 5amps passed through molten Sodium Chloride for 3 hours. Calculate the mass of Sodium. E=23/1.

    m = (23/96485) (5) (3*60*60) approx 12.87 grams.

    --- end quoting in part from source-- Study.com ---

    Now has such a experiment been performed on Water to see how much atomic mass of hydrogen and of oxygen results??? If AP is correct, the formula of water is H4O, if Old Physics, Old Chemistry is correct the formula is H2O. So which is it???

    AP


    No, sorry no, Faraday's Law of Electrolysis is not going to tell the correct mass of hydrogen.

    Reading Wikipedia on Faraday's Electrolysis law.

    --- quoting Wikipedia ---
    A monovalent ion requires 1 electron for discharge, a divalent ion requires 2 electrons for discharge and so on. Thus, if x electrons flow,
    x/v atoms are discharged.

    So the mass m discharged is

    m= (xM)/vN_A) = (QM)/(eN_A *v) = (QM) / (vF)
    where
    N_A is the Avogadro constant;
    Q = xe is the total charge, equal to the number of electrons (x) times the elementary charge e;
    F is the Faraday constant.
    --- end quoting Wikipedia ---

    No, the Faraday law of Electrolysis will not work on water with a correct answer, because H is not an atom but H2 is an Atom. And where one of the proton+muon converts to being a neutron to the other proton+muon.

    So if Faraday's law of Electrolysis was applied to water, thinking it would deliver a true answer is mistaken because the one H converts to neutron.

    So it appears that we need to directly measure the test tube of oxygen and the test tube of hydrogen by a direct mass measurement.

    AP
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    I doubt we can measure a test tube of hydrogen or test tube of oxygen, too small to determine the mass on some sort of weight scale.

    But here is a possible lucrative idea. We should be able to get pure deuterium water. Then run the electrolysis. Collect the test tubes.

    Now have some sort of balancing beam weight scale. Place the regular water of hydrogen test tube on one side, and place the deuterium water hydrogen test tube on other side. If they stay balanced, then AP is correct and Water is really H4O.

    AP
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    Cosmic Rays from Sun

    90% of Sun's cosmic rays are 840MeV proton+muon inside = H. The hydrogen Atom is H2 where one of the H proton+muon converts to being a neutron.

    When these proton+muon hit Earth atmosphere, they can turn into pions and muons.

    I commented that H alone is a subatomic particle and that makes sense in the idea that Sun's cosmic rays are 90% these proton+muon.

    Now is interstellar hydrogen H2 and intergalactic hydrogen H2 formed when one H cosmic ray joins up with another H cosmic ray to form H2 atom?

    Is this how we get H2 in outer space? From the splitting apart of H2 into H cosmic rays?

    So how much of the Sun's hydrogen is H2 and how much is H ready to join with another H and reform back into H2. Probably little of the Sun's H is H alone, and the vast majority of the Sun's hydrogen is H2.

    How much deuterium in the Sun? And it is a higher percentage than the deuterium in water on Earth?

    AP
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    Water is the only known non-metallic substance that expands when if freezes; its density decreases and it expands approximately 9% by volume. (Source: web Lunar and Planetary Institute)

    I have to wait for experimental chemists and physicists to weigh the mass of test tubes from electrolysis, as to the verdict-- water is H4O.

    But until that news comes in, I will look for other means of proof.

    So AP says that the H2 is not a molecule but is the hydrogen Atom itself, where one proton+muon converts to a neutron and capacitates the other proton+muon which undergo the Faraday law.

    There are subatomic particles of H in the form of Cosmic Rays from the Sun, but most of the Sun's hydrogen is H2, and flips back and forth from H to rejoining to form H2. Some gets away from the Sun and is cosmic rays.

    But H2 is an Atom and H is a fleeting subatomic particle.

    So can I prove Water is H4O from the data of Spectral lines of H2 is the same as deuterium, only slight difference is that the deuterium is a full fledged neutron not a makeshift proton+muon of H.

    I suspect that special trait of water freezing is a proof that Water is H4O. Because the 840MeV proton torus with muon inside doing the Faraday law acting as a makeshift neutron capacitor for the other 840MeV proton torus with muon inside, is
    where H2 gets that expansion characteristic.

    A neutron is a parallel plate capacitor and those plates can expand when frozen temperature occurs. As the temperature gets colder, those plates move further apart.

    Now does deuterium which truly has a full neutron, does it expand also when frozen?? If so, does it expand as much as H2 which is 2 protons with 2 muons inside?

    So comparing the freezing and expansion of the parallel plates of a neutron in deuterium with the freezing and expansion of one of the proton+muon that is acting as a makeshift neutron in H2.

    If I can numbers correlate the H2 expansion with the Deuterium expansion would be a alternative proof that Water is really H4O and not H2O.

    AP
    to
    So now on Blankenship's book "Molecular Mechanisms of Photosynthesis", 2014, page 134, shows The structure of ATP, ADP, AMP. And within that structure are OH hydroxyls.

    In New Chemistry, water is truly H4O, and where hydroxyls are now H2O. And we have first proof of this in the Figure 8.1 of Blankenship's "Chemical structure of ATP".

    For in the lower left corner of the diagram, Blankenship has a H+ all alone, (really a mindless error) and has P surrounded by O-, O-, O and OH. The OH is really H2O for hydroxyls are H2O and water itself is H4O, and that would leave that
    mindless H+ as being hydrogen Atom of H2.

    The world of physics and chemistry should drop what they are doing and weigh the electrolysis test tube of hydrogen and oxygen to discover the correct true formula of water is H4O.

    AP is total confident, becuase an Atom cannot exist if it has no capacitor structure such as a neutron, or one of the H in H2 acting as a neutron. I am totally confident that Water formula is truly H4O. And I need look only to methane of H4C,
    to realize that there is no HC, no H2C, no H3C, but starts with H4C, and that tells me water starts with H4O. Totally confident that Old Chemistry, Old Physics did electrolysis experiments and the moment they saw hydrogen test tube be 2x volume of oxygen
    test tube, they dropped their work and went out for a Danish and coffee break, rather than finish their work--- actual physics weighing of atomic mass units (not the Faraday electrolysis law for it does not apply to water).

    When water electrolysis is physics weighed, AP is confident that there are 4H per every one oxygen O. And that Water is truly H4O.

    AP, King of Science
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    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 8:56:57 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within the accuracy I need for weighing a test tube of oxygen then a test tube of hydrogen from water electrolysis.

    Now modern day physics and chemist experimenters can really do a marvelous job if they wanted to. For they could freeze the test tubes of oxygen and hydrogen to where they are liquid and compare liquids from water electrolysis.
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    to
    So, what AP is saying here is that we do electrolysis of water. We collect the two test tubes, one with oxygen the other with hydrogen.

    To prove Water is truly the formula H4O and not H2O we must weigh the masses of the two tubes to find that the ratio is 1 x 16amu to 4 x 1amu.

    The silly grotesque science error of the past was to look at volumes in the two test tubes-- "Hey-- the hydrogen is twice the volume of oxygen so the formula of water is H2O".

    No, way was that science good practice. For the correct formula of water needs to be measured by mass, by atomic mass units where Oxygen is 16amu and hydrogen is 1amu.

    I suspect a balance beam scale is good enough to see the hydrogen test tube will be 1/4 as massive as the oxygen test tube. To get within precision of electronic weighing scale of 0.00001 gram we just have to make a larger test tube of
    electrolysis of water.

    AP is betting that the readings will be hydrogen test tube 1/4 the mass of oxygen test tube proving Water formula is truly H4O.

    Old Physics and Old Chemistry is betting that the mass experiment will have the hydrogen test tube be 1/8 the mass of the oxygen test tube, proving Water formula is H2O.

    AP does not have these precision equipment to conduct an at-home experiment of this nature.

    AP
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    to
    So, once Water is found to actually be H4O, not H2O, we move on to methane, and ask the same question of its hydrogen bonds. Is Methane really that of H8C and not H4C.

    Well, looking in the literature for anomalies to methane, I come across a arXiv "Low and high-temperature anomalies in the physical properties of solid methane "The anomalous behavior of thermodynamic, spectral, plastic, elastic and some
    other properties of solid methane is discussed near 20.48K and...

    AP wonders: if they can get methane to solid form, well, I am then hopeful that the mass of the molecule can be determined. Because if methane is truly H8C, that difference of H4 in atomic mass units would be very much noticeable difference.

    Chemistry Europe--
    "The Anomalous Deuterium Isotope Effect in the NMR Spectrum of Methane...

    P Vermeeren, 2023
    "The abnormally long and weak methylidyne C-H bond.."
    "The C-H bond of the methylidyne radical, CH*, is abnormally long and weak, even longer and..."

    AP asks, are these anomalies solved if we consider methane is actually H8C and not H4C?

    AP


    My 250th published book.

    TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY; H2 is the hydrogen Atom and water is H4O, not H2O// Chemistry
    by Archimedes Plutonium (Author) (Amazon's Kindle)
    Prologue: This textbook is 1/2 research history and 1/2 factual textbook combined as one textbook. For many of the experiments described here-in have not yet been performed, such as water is really H4O not H2O. Written in a style of history
    research with date-time markers, and fact telling. And there are no problem sets. This book is intended for 1st year college. Until I include problem sets and exercises, I leave it to the professor and instructor to provide such. And also, chemistry is
    hugely a laboratory science, even more so than physics, so a first year college student in the lab to test whether Water is really H4O and not H2O is mighty educational.

    Preface: This is my 250th book of science, and the first of my textbooks on Teaching True Chemistry. I have completed the Teaching True Physics and the Teaching True Mathematics textbook series. But had not yet started on a Teaching True Chemistry
    textbook series. What got me started on this project is the fact that no chemistry textbook had the correct formula for water which is actually H4O and not H2O. Leaving the true formula for hydroxyl groups as H2O and not OH. But none of this is possible
    in Old Chemistry, Old Physics where they had do-nothing subatomic particles that sit around and do nothing or go whizzing around the outside of balls in a nucleus, in a mindless circling. Once every subatomic particle has a job, task, function, then
    water cannot be H2O but rather H4O. And a hydrogen atom cannot be H alone but is actually H2. H2 is not a molecule of hydrogen but a full fledged Atom, a single atom of hydrogen.

    Cover Picture: Sorry for the crude sketch work but chemistry and physics students are going to have to learn to make such sketches in a minute or less. Just as they make Lewis diagrams or ball & stick diagrams. My 4-5 minute sketch-work of the
    Water molecule H4O plus the subatomic particle H, and the hydrogen atom H2. Showing how one H is a proton torus with muon inside (blue color) doing the Faraday law. Protons are toruses with many windings. Protons are the coils in Faraday law while muons
    are the bar magnets. Neutrons are the capacitors as parallel plates, the outer skin cover of atoms.

    Product details
    • ASIN ‏ : ‎ B0CCLPTBDG
    • Publication date ‏ : ‎ July 21, 2023
    • Language ‏ : ‎ English
    • File size ‏ : ‎ 788 KB
    • Text-to-Speech ‏ : ‎ Enabled
    • Screen Reader ‏ : ‎ Supported
    • Enhanced typesetting ‏ : ‎ Enabled
    • X-Ray ‏ : ‎ Not Enabled
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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 7 10:57:58 2023
    Beijing▂▄▅█████████▅▄▃Moscow mushroom cloud, Xi as Putin's stooge when Russia vaporizes Beijing with its RS-28 Sarmat "Satan II", all because Xi was too dumb to realize you can never trust an insane person

    On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 9:03:40 AM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    "Putin's Stooge"
    Angel, Kibo Parry Moron-ey-Volney thinks you can bolt down a city to protect it from Russian Sarmat
    On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 11:56:20 PM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    Botfly of Math and Blowfly of Physics "Putin's stooge"
    "wasn't bolted down too tight in the first place"

    reporting in China news the beast criminals of Russia should have been tried in International Court of Justice for war crimes before vaporizing Chinese cities as Putin pushes nuclear buttons.


    Pentcho Valev spamming as China under Russian Sarmats. Does it remind Pentcho of Nero fiddling while Rome burnt???


    Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Chongqing, Tianjin, Chengdu, Hangzhou, Nanjing, Wuhan, Xi'An, Suzhou, Harbin, Shenyang, Qingdao, Zhengzhou, Dongguan, Foshan, Dalian, Jinan, Changchun, Hefei

    Shenzhen▂▄▅█████████▅▄▃▂ Xi as Putin's stooge when Russia vaporizes Shenzhen with its RS-28 Sarmat "Satan II", all because Xi was too dumb to realize you can never trust an insane person

    On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 11:56:20 PM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    Botfly of Math and Blowfly of Physics "Putin's stooge"
    "wasn't bolted down too tight in the first place"

    On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 1:16:55 AM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote:
    "Imp of Science"
    "not one single marble of commonsense in my entire brain"


    & wrote:
    _And as the Baby Xi grew up, surrounded by concubines, from the rice paddies and reeds of Outer
    Manchuria, stolen by the Naxi and Zani Dictator Putin in Moscow, Xi learned in school in chemical engineering that Taiwan was 1/28 the size of Outer Manchuria, Emperor Qing's homeland, now occupied by homeless Russians drinking vodka, as Putin bombs Ukraine. And the nascent Xi orders
    1,000 divisions to the Outer Manchuria border to regain back the stolen
    Why Putin is 2X smarter than Xi as dictators// SCIENCE COUNCIL RULES EARTH, not petty dictators
    2m views


    If Putin pushes nuclear buttons, he drags down China along with Russia into a nuclear ash waste pile, and this means Xi is a inferior junior partner to Putin. Putin will drag down Xi's China, never the reverse.

    So, one can look at the present situation on Earth and ask several logical questions about the 2 dictators of Putin's Russia and China's Xi.

    It is little wonder that both Russia and China dictators are combative towards the West. Because dictators never want to give up on power but stay in power all their life long. So they oppose the West because the West has grown up to democracy--
    let the people have power, not one single idiot having power all his life time.

    5 > Naturally, Putin will want to keep the Russian people suppressed and have Russia be a second rate government as a dictator. Same goes for China-- they never want to give up power so the people themselves choose their leader.

    But can we find differences in Putin and Xi themselves? Well in the West we call the Chinese inscrutable-- meaning -- little logical commonsense. And is this a valid description?? Yes of course, considering that Russia had stolen the lands of
    Outer Manchuria, some 28 times larger of a land mass than is Taiwan island. Yet there is Xi, spending so much time on wanting to invade Taiwan, when it is Outer Manchuria and Vladivostok (Haishenwai) that he should be focusing attention upon. And while
    Putin is distracted with Ukraine, is the time for Xi to recapture Outer Manchuria, the Qing dynasty empire, Qing's Manchurian homeland.

    What does Xi do instead??? He focuses on Taiwan and befriends Russia. Why, at this rate, if Russia takes Inner Manchuria, we can expect Xi and the Chinese Communist Party to become even more loving of Russia for stealing more land of China.

    And there is Xi, whose China has become rich with trading with the West, yet every day, Xi foaming at the mouth in hatred of the West.

    So yes, Putin is 2X smarter as a dictator than is Xi, as if Putin has Xi in his side pocket.

    Is there some scientific explanation as to why Xi is 2X dumber than Putin?? Perhaps, in that China is densely populated and the air pollution over all of China is worse than most countries. That Xi probably has 1/2 of his brain filled with CO and
    CO2 isomers and lead, and mercury and nitrous oxide and sulfur dioxide from just living in that air polluted hellhole of Beijing. Xi studied chemistry and should know this. Whereas Putin likely detox..s every evening with breathing in pure oxygen at his
    residence and takes oxygen breathing tanks to office and work. This easily can explain the light-headed reasoning that Xi and his foreign diplomats Wang Yi display, where Putin plays them like a chess game, --- checkmate in 7 moves.

    This explains why Xi hates the West for not stealing any Chinese lands and making China rich in trade, while loving Putin for stealing Outer Manchuria, and proposing having Russia push nuclear buttons, making both Russia and China a nuclear waste
    site after ICBMs wipe China off the map.

    Xi's brain is full of air pollution toxins from the nasty Chinese air. They still build a new coal fired plant in China every day. The air in China is the worst air in the entire world.

    6 > Why Putin is 2X smarter than Xi as dictators// SCIENCE COUNCIL RULES EARTH, not petty dictators.

    Pentcho is this what happens to China when they follow the insane Putin, tag-a-long, tag-a-long and then all of a sudden--- dragged into a mushroom cloud

    Xi Haishenwai red baseball cap offered to Putin

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    Steady aim. Firing the Satellite Rifle to take down GLONASS and BeiDou//Armondikov--Feb 6, 2013 - Via PsyGremlin via PZ Myers, this is Archimedes Plutonium, my new favourite crank hat. SATELLITE LASER RIFLE--bring down GLONASS

    Sergey Lavrov what would Russia do, once it sees their GLONASS satellites falling out of the sky? Would they exit Ukraine?

    Easiest way to disable and make ICBMs obsolete is to make their navigation system obsolete.

    Easiest way to make navigation systems obsolete is to down satellites.

    Easiest way to down satellites is a Laser beam zapping for 5 seconds on a "satellite panel". And so, down falls the satellite.

    Now are the satellites coordinated in GLONASS? For if coordinated and synchronized, there is the physical possibility of "if we down one of the satellites, all of GLONASS satellites are downed".




    Armondikov
    Archimedes Plutonium | Spherical Bullshit sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/02/06/archimedes-plutonium/‎

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    has a big LASER SATELLITE RIFLE will shoot to pieces the GLONASS
    [ ] Another boatload of BeiDou satellites felled



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    [ ] THE HEART OF % Virgin
    [ ] Scientists can now quickly link to Xi's Haishenwai red ball caps in shooting down BeiDou and GLONASS
    [ ] "All for one!" "One for all!" "Every man for himself!"
    [ ] The Prize-- a date with the cheese skirt queen
    The hours are approaching rapidly and we need GLONASS either in the dark or best of all-- misfiring their missiles from Russia and striking Russian and Chinese cities. We want Kim Jong-un to see a Russian missile intended for Ukraine to level
    Pyongyang, all by a hacking into the Intel chips of GLONASS.

    The mass exodus at Twitter is that they wanted GLONASS to hack, not BeiDou.
    Jam all 24 GLONASS satellites of their Intel chips and you wipe out the ability of Russia's fleet of 6,000 ICBM missiles.

    GNS satellites orbit at a high orbit, MUCH higher than
    LEO, just not as high as geosynchronous satellites. GPS orbit is 20,200
    km, GLONASS is 19,100 km. At such heights, debris will remain essentially forever, and the satellites won't crash for centuries, if ever.
    StupidPlutonium, "GPS" receiver chipsets have long been GNSS chipsets
    that deliver what they believe to be the best data from whatever satellites they happen to see.

    molesting a countries GNSS satellites would be viewed
    as an act of war no different from attackiing a navel fleet or bombing a
    city.

    elude to a Intel chip on GLONASS 24 satellites and all that is needed is to jamm those intel chips and we have 24 malfunctioning satellites, wiping out the navigation of all 6,000 Russian ICBM.

    Skoal!!!

    Did you get a Xi red baseball cap with Haishenwai on it?


    Moscow█۞█ blackout, knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity


    Ukraine cannot win a war if it has nada, no, zero offense, it needs to knock out Russian electric lines. And the Baltic states can help.
    Knock out electricity in
    Novosibirsk
    Yekaterinburg
    Novgorod
    Samara
    Omsk
    Kazan
    Rostov-na-Donu
    Chelyabinsk
    Ufa
    Perm


    _Every Russian missile fired into Ukraine met with a drone from Ukraine knocking out Moscow electric power lines

    _Give Ukraine drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    NO ONE CAN WIN A FIGHT UNLESS THEY HAVE AN OFFENSE!!!!!!

    NO ONE CAN WIN A FIGHT UNLESS THEY HAVE AN OFFENSE!!!!!!

    NO ONE CAN WIN A FIGHT UNLESS THEY HAVE AN OFFENSE!!!!!!

    _No one can win a fight or war without any offense, West, Biden give Ukraine drones that knock out electricity inside Russia

    _End the Ukraine war by March 2023 as the Russian people depose the dictator

    _rolling electric blackouts and give Iran to Iraq-- a blooming democracy, not a stupid dictator

    _And as the Baby Xi grew up from the rice paddies and reeds of Outer Manchuria, stolen by the Naxi and Zani Dictator Putin in Moscow, Xi learned in school in chemical engineering that Taiwan was 1/28 the size of Outer Manchuria, as Putin bombs
    Ukraine. And the nascent Xi orders 1,000 divisions to the Outer Manchuria border to regain back the stolen Old China.

    _Xi has 1,000 divisions on Vladivostok border ready to swoop in and reclaim the stolen land of Outer Manchuria. See reconnaissance photo above of 1,000 divisions.

    NATO and the West has just two good options here, for Putin should have been removed in 2006 with Litvinenko poisoning. Now the insane Putin can poison the entire world with a nuclear war. Putin needed to go in 2006, for insanity just gets worse and
    worse.

    Either
    (1) give Ukraine drones to knock out electric power in Moscow and beyond Or
    (2) give Ukraine NATO membership and tell Russia to clear out in a week or NATO forces go in and clear them out.

    Of course, every day Putin and Russia needs reminding that if he presses nuclear buttons or nuclear bomb on Ukraine that Russia will be a nuclear ash pile before the day is out.

    What should have been done in 2006, unfortunately that delay to 2022. Same can be said of Hitler-- he should have been removed in the early 1930s before his insanity got going.

    & wrote:
    _And as the Baby Xi grew up from the rice paddies and reeds of Outer Manchuria, stolen by the Naxi and Zani Dictator Putin in Moscow, Xi learned in school in chemical engineering that Taiwan was 1/28 the size of Outer Manchuria, Emperor Qing's homeland, now occupied by homeless Russians drinking vodka, as Putin bombs Ukraine. And the nascent Xi orders
    1,000 divisions to the Outer Manchuria border to regain back the stolen
    Why Putin is 2X smarter than Xi as dictators// SCIENCE COUNCIL RULES EARTH, not petty dictators
    2m views


    If Putin pushes nuclear buttons, he drags down China along with Russia into a nuclear ash waste pile, and this means Xi is a inferior junior partner to Putin. Putin will drag down Xi's China, never the reverse.

    2/1, AP tards:
    Give Ukraine drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/2, AP tards:
    Give Ukraine drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/3, AP tards:
    Every Russian missile fired into Ukraine met with a drone from Ukraine knocking out Moscow electric power lines

    Give Ukraine drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/4, AP tards:
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/9 (vacation?), AP tards:
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/9, AP tards (again):
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/10, AP tards:
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/11, AP tards:
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/12, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/12, AP tards again:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/13, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/14, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/15, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/16, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/17, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/18, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/19, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/20, AP tards:

    Electricity out Novosibirsk &Volgograd█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/22, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/23, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/24, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/25, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/26, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity


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    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 7 16:57:25 2023
    Beijing▂▄▅█████████▅▄▃Moscow mushroom cloud, Xi as Putin's stooge when Russia vaporizes Beijing with its RS-28 Sarmat "Satan II", all because Xi was too dumb to realize you can never trust an insane person

    On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 9:03:40 AM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    "Putin's Stooge"
    Angel, Kibo Parry Moron-ey-Volney thinks you can bolt down a city to protect it from Russian Sarmat
    On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 11:56:20 PM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    Botfly of Math and Blowfly of Physics "Putin's stooge"
    "wasn't bolted down too tight in the first place"

    reporting in China news the beast criminals of Russia should have been tried in International Court of Justice for war crimes before vaporizing Chinese cities as Putin pushes nuclear buttons.


    Pentcho Valev spamming as China under Russian Sarmats. Does it remind Pentcho of Nero fiddling while Rome burnt???


    Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Chongqing, Tianjin, Chengdu, Hangzhou, Nanjing, Wuhan, Xi'An, Suzhou, Harbin, Shenyang, Qingdao, Zhengzhou, Dongguan, Foshan, Dalian, Jinan, Changchun, Hefei

    Shenzhen▂▄▅█████████▅▄▃▂ Xi as Putin's stooge when Russia vaporizes Shenzhen with its RS-28 Sarmat "Satan II", all because Xi was too dumb to realize you can never trust an insane person

    On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 11:56:20 PM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    Botfly of Math and Blowfly of Physics "Putin's stooge"
    "wasn't bolted down too tight in the first place"

    On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 1:16:55 AM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote:
    "Imp of Science"
    "not one single marble of commonsense in my entire brain"


    & wrote:
    _And as the Baby Xi grew up, surrounded by concubines, from the rice paddies and reeds of Outer
    Manchuria, stolen by the Naxi and Zani Dictator Putin in Moscow, Xi learned in school in chemical engineering that Taiwan was 1/28 the size of Outer Manchuria, Emperor Qing's homeland, now occupied by homeless Russians drinking vodka, as Putin bombs Ukraine. And the nascent Xi orders
    1,000 divisions to the Outer Manchuria border to regain back the stolen
    Why Putin is 2X smarter than Xi as dictators// SCIENCE COUNCIL RULES EARTH, not petty dictators
    2m views


    If Putin pushes nuclear buttons, he drags down China along with Russia into a nuclear ash waste pile, and this means Xi is a inferior junior partner to Putin. Putin will drag down Xi's China, never the reverse.

    So, one can look at the present situation on Earth and ask several logical questions about the 2 dictators of Putin's Russia and China's Xi.

    It is little wonder that both Russia and China dictators are combative towards the West. Because dictators never want to give up on power but stay in power all their life long. So they oppose the West because the West has grown up to democracy--
    let the people have power, not one single idiot having power all his life time.

    5 > Naturally, Putin will want to keep the Russian people suppressed and have Russia be a second rate government as a dictator. Same goes for China-- they never want to give up power so the people themselves choose their leader.

    But can we find differences in Putin and Xi themselves? Well in the West we call the Chinese inscrutable-- meaning -- little logical commonsense. And is this a valid description?? Yes of course, considering that Russia had stolen the lands of
    Outer Manchuria, some 28 times larger of a land mass than is Taiwan island. Yet there is Xi, spending so much time on wanting to invade Taiwan, when it is Outer Manchuria and Vladivostok (Haishenwai) that he should be focusing attention upon. And while
    Putin is distracted with Ukraine, is the time for Xi to recapture Outer Manchuria, the Qing dynasty empire, Qing's Manchurian homeland.

    What does Xi do instead??? He focuses on Taiwan and befriends Russia. Why, at this rate, if Russia takes Inner Manchuria, we can expect Xi and the Chinese Communist Party to become even more loving of Russia for stealing more land of China.

    And there is Xi, whose China has become rich with trading with the West, yet every day, Xi foaming at the mouth in hatred of the West.

    So yes, Putin is 2X smarter as a dictator than is Xi, as if Putin has Xi in his side pocket.

    Is there some scientific explanation as to why Xi is 2X dumber than Putin?? Perhaps, in that China is densely populated and the air pollution over all of China is worse than most countries. That Xi probably has 1/2 of his brain filled with CO and
    CO2 isomers and lead, and mercury and nitrous oxide and sulfur dioxide from just living in that air polluted hellhole of Beijing. Xi studied chemistry and should know this. Whereas Putin likely detox..s every evening with breathing in pure oxygen at his
    residence and takes oxygen breathing tanks to office and work. This easily can explain the light-headed reasoning that Xi and his foreign diplomats Wang Yi display, where Putin plays them like a chess game, --- checkmate in 7 moves.

    This explains why Xi hates the West for not stealing any Chinese lands and making China rich in trade, while loving Putin for stealing Outer Manchuria, and proposing having Russia push nuclear buttons, making both Russia and China a nuclear waste
    site after ICBMs wipe China off the map.

    Xi's brain is full of air pollution toxins from the nasty Chinese air. They still build a new coal fired plant in China every day. The air in China is the worst air in the entire world.

    6 > Why Putin is 2X smarter than Xi as dictators// SCIENCE COUNCIL RULES EARTH, not petty dictators.

    Pentcho is this what happens to China when they follow the insane Putin, tag-a-long, tag-a-long and then all of a sudden--- dragged into a mushroom cloud

    Xi Haishenwai red baseball cap offered to Putin

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    Steady aim. Firing the Satellite Rifle to take down GLONASS and BeiDou//Armondikov--Feb 6, 2013 - Via PsyGremlin via PZ Myers, this is Archimedes Plutonium, my new favourite crank hat. SATELLITE LASER RIFLE--bring down GLONASS

    Sergey Lavrov what would Russia do, once it sees their GLONASS satellites falling out of the sky? Would they exit Ukraine?

    Easiest way to disable and make ICBMs obsolete is to make their navigation system obsolete.

    Easiest way to make navigation systems obsolete is to down satellites.

    Easiest way to down satellites is a Laser beam zapping for 5 seconds on a "satellite panel". And so, down falls the satellite.

    Now are the satellites coordinated in GLONASS? For if coordinated and synchronized, there is the physical possibility of "if we down one of the satellites, all of GLONASS satellites are downed".




    Armondikov
    Archimedes Plutonium | Spherical Bullshit sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/02/06/archimedes-plutonium/‎

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    Feb 6, 2013 - Via PsyGremlin via PZ Myers, this is Archimedes Plutonium, my new favourite crank hat. I was really fucking surprised to have taken this long to ...

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    In loving memory of The Battle Kitten
    May 2010-February 12, 2017

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    Kid : Mom can I go out and watch the satellite.
    Mom : we called them shooting stars in my day.

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    GLONASS time clock Award:
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    Most accurate Laser Rifle Award:
    [ ] Did You Catch The Hidden Message Behind Sergey Lavrov's speech at UN
    [ ] Mister Smartypants
    [ ] Darwinian Finch
    [ ] just for fun I plotted North Korean BeiDou satellite and shot it down


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    has a big LASER SATELLITE RIFLE will shoot to pieces the GLONASS
    [ ] Another boatload of BeiDou satellites felled



    Nomen Nescio, artist for Usenet sci.math and sci.physics, three cheers to Nomen


    GLONASS Award:
    [ ]
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    [ ] THE HEART OF % Virgin
    [ ] Scientists can now quickly link to Xi's Haishenwai red ball caps in shooting down BeiDou and GLONASS
    [ ] "All for one!" "One for all!" "Every man for himself!"
    [ ] The Prize-- a date with the cheese skirt queen
    The hours are approaching rapidly and we need GLONASS either in the dark or best of all-- misfiring their missiles from Russia and striking Russian and Chinese cities. We want Kim Jong-un to see a Russian missile intended for Ukraine to level
    Pyongyang, all by a hacking into the Intel chips of GLONASS.

    The mass exodus at Twitter is that they wanted GLONASS to hack, not BeiDou.
    Jam all 24 GLONASS satellites of their Intel chips and you wipe out the ability of Russia's fleet of 6,000 ICBM missiles.

    GNS satellites orbit at a high orbit, MUCH higher than
    LEO, just not as high as geosynchronous satellites. GPS orbit is 20,200
    km, GLONASS is 19,100 km. At such heights, debris will remain essentially forever, and the satellites won't crash for centuries, if ever.
    StupidPlutonium, "GPS" receiver chipsets have long been GNSS chipsets
    that deliver what they believe to be the best data from whatever satellites they happen to see.

    molesting a countries GNSS satellites would be viewed
    as an act of war no different from attackiing a navel fleet or bombing a
    city.

    elude to a Intel chip on GLONASS 24 satellites and all that is needed is to jamm those intel chips and we have 24 malfunctioning satellites, wiping out the navigation of all 6,000 Russian ICBM.

    Skoal!!!

    Did you get a Xi red baseball cap with Haishenwai on it?

    & wrote:
    _And as the Baby Xi grew up from the rice paddies and reeds of Outer Manchuria, stolen by the Naxi and Zani Dictator Putin in Moscow, Xi learned in school in chemical engineering that Taiwan was 1/28 the size of Outer Manchuria, Emperor Qing's homeland, now occupied by homeless Russians drinking vodka, as Putin bombs Ukraine. And the nascent Xi orders
    1,000 divisions to the Outer Manchuria border to regain back the stolen
    Why Putin is 2X smarter than Xi as dictators// SCIENCE COUNCIL RULES EARTH, not petty dictators
    2m views


    If Putin pushes nuclear buttons, he drags down China along with Russia into a nuclear ash waste pile, and this means Xi is a inferior junior partner to Putin. Putin will drag down Xi's China, never the reverse.

    2/1, AP tards:
    Give Ukraine drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/2, AP tards:
    Give Ukraine drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/3, AP tards:
    Every Russian missile fired into Ukraine met with a drone from Ukraine knocking out Moscow electric power lines

    Give Ukraine drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/4, AP tards:
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/9 (vacation?), AP tards:
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/9, AP tards (again):
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/10, AP tards:
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/11, AP tards:
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/12, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/12, AP tards again:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/13, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/14, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/15, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/16, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/17, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/18, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/19, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/20, AP tards:

    Electricity out Novosibirsk &Volgograd█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/22, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/23, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/24, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/25, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/26, AP tards:

    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Mon Aug 7 23:49:33 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    i think those russian and china ships near alaska is just a diversion...
    they don't want you to look someplace else. But I'm looking..someplace
    else.

    where is dat wargner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)?


    The Starmaker wrote:

    SENIOR OFFICIALS from as many as 40 countries�Russia not included�are
    heading to Saudi Arabia this weekend, for the latest attempt to build
    support for a peace process in Ukraine.

    Peace means war, right? D-Day...

    On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 22:30:30 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    I predict
    dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
    will make the month of August...D-day.


    Somewhere between August 2nd - and Aug, 7th.



    bookmark dis page.



    The Starmaker wrote:

    I heard dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...is still alive!

    It was kind of dark, so i couldn't see him well...but i recognize his
    voice..and it was definitely him,,,dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin).

    I guess he is getting ready for...D-Day!

    On Sun, 09 Jul 2023 12:28:46 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    I heard, (but i don't know if it's true)

    the Wagner guys are going to take Poland.


    Now, it's the best time to take Poland while yous have a pussy for
    President of the United States.


    The next President might not allow it.


    Everyone must always grab an ...opportunity.


    Biden will announced he will put sanctions on dat Wagner guy...cut off
    his PayPal account.


    Are Polish girls pretty????



    i wan some of dat!



    How many polish people does it take to change a light bulb?
    100, one to hold the bulb and ninety nine to spin the house.











    On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 21:05:41 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    ...and while the two bulldogs are
    fighting under the rug...

    now it's a good time for
    the little people of Russia to
    arm themselves and take Putin out.

    dat wagner guy would forgive them.

    Now is the time to stick a
    water hose down Putin's throat
    while he is already drowning.

    finish him off..



    The Starmaker wrote:

    So, Putin tells dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...
    "Don't worry, I'm dropping all treason charges and all dat other stuff".

    Then Putin tells his friend.."KILL DAT MOTHERFUCKER!!!!"

    and his friend sez, "What about his all mercenary soldiers?"

    Putin sez, "Tell them to come in and they can all join my army."

    Then .."KILL ALL THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!"

    two bulldogs under a rug....

    who will come out..alive?

    The Starmaker wrote:

    My advise to this Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...stay aways from >> >>> > ...windows.

    The Starmaker wrote:

    if you people know anything about the mafia...
    you know Putin needs to rub out dat wagner guy, otherwise...

    EVERYBODY WILL WANT TO KNOCK OFF PUTIN!

    One of them has to die...soon.

    Which one is it going to be????

    (the wagner guy already made his move and now has the popular vote)

    dis is not a game of chess..

    The Starmaker wrote:

    I heard the FBI needs your help..

    they are looking for this guy...anybody seen him around?

    https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif

    looks a liitle familiar..

    there is a reward out for him..$250,000.02

    https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif

    i tink i know where dis guy lives..

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Of course Putin is a chicken...he's got a lot more to lose than dat
    purse snatcher Wagner.

    One of those two has to...die.

    Which one are you rooting for? da gangster or da gangster?

    Why doesn't da Big Guy take them both out?

    well, we'll deal with wat ever gangster survies....

    Biden gots his own Crime Family to look after.

    Trump has to go after all the Crime Families in Washington!

    (luckly Trump has Rudy Giuliani to consult him...Rudy is an expert on
    Crime Families!)

    It's Kill or be Killed.

    You wanna make an omelete you gotta break some eggs.

    As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster. ...

    The Starmaker wrote:

    This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is trying to kill Putin, and
    Putin is trying to kill This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin). >> >>> > > > > >
    Who is going to win? The Gambino Family or the Bonano Family?

    Somebody is going to get hit on 46th Street...

    Mob Wars.

    Who gets to own the gas station on Putin Avenue?

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Looks to me..
    This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect
    President for Russia...he's strickly criminal. And

    looks to me
    he is going to vote himself in...
    and knock off Putin.

    Mob style.

    It's a Mafia state, why not?

    you gotta do it wit style.

    On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 23:36:35 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian

    https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370

    Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!

    Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...

    Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)

    (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
    In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
    While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
    There wasn�t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
    In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.

    Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
    the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
    a �beautiful� coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
    the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
    by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
    One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.

    "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?

    This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal.

    He's Putin's kind of guy...

    Do you know what "Putin's kind of guy..." means? Like a John Gotti
    underboss.

    Most of yous don't understand Putin and Russia.

    Russia in fact is a Mafia State. A country run by The Mafia. It's a
    Mafia country. Run by the Mafia.

    If you need a little more understanding...

    By Garry Kasparov
    When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question
    was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of
    Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its
    behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised
    at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions.

    Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this
    looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a
    businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign
    company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy
    marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as
    weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to
    terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is
    what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin
    regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of
    the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind
    the medieval red walls.

    Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part
    oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is
    partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in
    which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over
    this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain
    entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks.

    But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can
    recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by
    Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is
    of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for
    now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to
    the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario
    Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian
    government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr.
    Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start,
    but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian."

    The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is
    business, what is government, and what is criminal -- it's all there in
    Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees
    elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and
    Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin
    government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the
    intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep
    the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia.

    If a member of the inner circle goes against the Capo, his life is
    forfeit. Once Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky wanted to go
    straight and run his Yukos oil company as a legitimate corporation and
    not as another cog in Mr. Putin's KGB, Inc. He quickly found himself in
    a Siberian prison, his company dismantled and looted, and its pieces
    absorbed by the state mafia apparatus of Rosneft and Gazprom.

    The Yukos case has become a model. Private companies are absorbed into
    the state while at the same time the assets of the state companies move
    into private accounts.

    Alexander Litvinenko was a KGB agent who broke the loyalty code by
    fleeing to Britain. Worse, he violated the law of omert&agrave; by going
    to the press and even publishing books about the dirty deeds of Mr.
    Putin and his foot soldiers. Instead of being taken fishing in the
    old-fashioned Godfather style, he was killed in London in the first
    recorded case of nuclear terrorism. Now the Kremlin is refusing to hand
    over the main suspect in the murder.

    Mr. Putin can't understand Britain doing potential harm to its business
    interests over one human life. That's an alien concept. In his world,
    everything is negotiable. Morals and principles are just chips on the
    table in the Kremlin's game. There is no mere misunderstanding in the
    Litvinenko case; there are two different languages being spoken.

    In the civilized world, certain things are sacrosanct. Human life is not
    traded at the same table where business and diplomacy are discussed. But
    for Mr. Putin, it's a true no-limits game. Kosovo, the missile shield,
    pipeline deals, the Iranian nuclear program and democratic rights are
    all just cards to be played.



    Now, do you know who Mikhail Khodorkovsky is? He was head of the Jewish Mafia in Russia.

    When Putin got rid of Mikhail Khodorkovsky...all the other top Jewish Mafia guys ran to Israel.








    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge
    the unchallengeable.
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    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --
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    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --
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    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, >> >>> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Tue Aug 8 06:17:14 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Mon, 07 Aug 2023 23:49:33 -0700, The Starmaker <[email protected]> wrote:

    i think those russian and china ships near alaska is just a diversion...
    they don't want you to look someplace else. But I'm looking..someplace
    else.

    where is dat wargner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)?

    Apparently still in exile in Belarus.

    Polling there indicates little public liking for the Russo/Ukraine war.

    Swill
    --
    Typical modern conservative argument:

    1. Never happened...fake news!
    2. Ok, it happened, but not like the fake news said!
    3. Ok, it happened like they said, but no crime was committed!
    4. Ok, it happened and it was a crime, but not a big one!
    5. Biden crime family!!!!!!!

    GO RFK! https://www.kennedy24.com/?locale=en

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sl�va Ukraj�ni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 8 09:19:25 2023
    Beijing▂▄▅█████████▅▄▃Moscow mushroom cloud, Xi as Putin's stooge when Russia vaporizes Beijing with its RS-28 Sarmat "Satan II", all because Xi was too dumb to realize you can never trust an insane person

    On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 9:03:40 AM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    "Putin's Stooge"
    Angel, Kibo Parry Moron-ey-Volney thinks you can bolt down a city to protect it from Russian Sarmat
    On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 11:56:20 PM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    Botfly of Math and Blowfly of Physics "Putin's stooge"
    "wasn't bolted down too tight in the first place"

    reporting in China news the beast criminals of Russia should have been tried in International Court of Justice for war crimes before vaporizing Chinese cities as Putin pushes nuclear buttons.


    Pentcho Valev spamming as China under Russian Sarmats. Does it remind Pentcho of Nero fiddling while Rome burnt???


    Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Chongqing, Tianjin, Chengdu, Hangzhou, Nanjing, Wuhan, Xi'An, Suzhou, Harbin, Shenyang, Qingdao, Zhengzhou, Dongguan, Foshan, Dalian, Jinan, Changchun, Hefei

    Shenzhen▂▄▅█████████▅▄▃▂ Xi as Putin's stooge when Russia vaporizes Shenzhen with its RS-28 Sarmat "Satan II", all because Xi was too dumb to realize you can never trust an insane person

    On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 11:56:20 PM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    Botfly of Math and Blowfly of Physics "Putin's stooge"
    "wasn't bolted down too tight in the first place"

    On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 1:16:55 AM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote:
    "Imp of Science"
    "not one single marble of commonsense in my entire brain"


    & wrote:
    _And as the Baby Xi grew up, surrounded by concubines, from the rice paddies and reeds of Outer
    Manchuria, stolen by the Naxi and Zani Dictator Putin in Moscow, Xi learned in school in chemical engineering that Taiwan was 1/28 the size of Outer Manchuria, Emperor Qing's homeland, now occupied by homeless Russians drinking vodka, as Putin bombs Ukraine. And the nascent Xi orders
    1,000 divisions to the Outer Manchuria border to regain back the stolen
    Why Putin is 2X smarter than Xi as dictators// SCIENCE COUNCIL RULES EARTH, not petty dictators
    2m views


    If Putin pushes nuclear buttons, he drags down China along with Russia into a nuclear ash waste pile, and this means Xi is a inferior junior partner to Putin. Putin will drag down Xi's China, never the reverse.

    So, one can look at the present situation on Earth and ask several logical questions about the 2 dictators of Putin's Russia and China's Xi.

    It is little wonder that both Russia and China dictators are combative towards the West. Because dictators never want to give up on power but stay in power all their life long. So they oppose the West because the West has grown up to democracy--
    let the people have power, not one single idiot having power all his life time.

    5 > Naturally, Putin will want to keep the Russian people suppressed and have Russia be a second rate government as a dictator. Same goes for China-- they never want to give up power so the people themselves choose their leader.

    But can we find differences in Putin and Xi themselves? Well in the West we call the Chinese inscrutable-- meaning -- little logical commonsense. And is this a valid description?? Yes of course, considering that Russia had stolen the lands of
    Outer Manchuria, some 28 times larger of a land mass than is Taiwan island. Yet there is Xi, spending so much time on wanting to invade Taiwan, when it is Outer Manchuria and Vladivostok (Haishenwai) that he should be focusing attention upon. And while
    Putin is distracted with Ukraine, is the time for Xi to recapture Outer Manchuria, the Qing dynasty empire, Qing's Manchurian homeland.

    What does Xi do instead??? He focuses on Taiwan and befriends Russia. Why, at this rate, if Russia takes Inner Manchuria, we can expect Xi and the Chinese Communist Party to become even more loving of Russia for stealing more land of China.

    And there is Xi, whose China has become rich with trading with the West, yet every day, Xi foaming at the mouth in hatred of the West.

    So yes, Putin is 2X smarter as a dictator than is Xi, as if Putin has Xi in his side pocket.

    Is there some scientific explanation as to why Xi is 2X dumber than Putin?? Perhaps, in that China is densely populated and the air pollution over all of China is worse than most countries. That Xi probably has 1/2 of his brain filled with CO and
    CO2 isomers and lead, and mercury and nitrous oxide and sulfur dioxide from just living in that air polluted hellhole of Beijing. Xi studied chemistry and should know this. Whereas Putin likely detox..s every evening with breathing in pure oxygen at his
    residence and takes oxygen breathing tanks to office and work. This easily can explain the light-headed reasoning that Xi and his foreign diplomats Wang Yi display, where Putin plays them like a chess game, --- checkmate in 7 moves.

    This explains why Xi hates the West for not stealing any Chinese lands and making China rich in trade, while loving Putin for stealing Outer Manchuria, and proposing having Russia push nuclear buttons, making both Russia and China a nuclear waste
    site after ICBMs wipe China off the map.

    Xi's brain is full of air pollution toxins from the nasty Chinese air. They still build a new coal fired plant in China every day. The air in China is the worst air in the entire world.

    6 > Why Putin is 2X smarter than Xi as dictators// SCIENCE COUNCIL RULES EARTH, not petty dictators.

    Pentcho is this what happens to China when they follow the insane Putin, tag-a-long, tag-a-long and then all of a sudden--- dragged into a mushroom cloud

    Xi Haishenwai red baseball cap offered to Putin

    ███۞███████ ]▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▃ ▂▄▅█████████▅▄▃▂ I███████████████████]. ◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙◤...



    Steady aim. Firing the Satellite Rifle to take down GLONASS and BeiDou//Armondikov--Feb 6, 2013 - Via PsyGremlin via PZ Myers, this is Archimedes Plutonium, my new favourite crank hat. SATELLITE LASER RIFLE--bring down GLONASS

    Sergey Lavrov what would Russia do, once it sees their GLONASS satellites falling out of the sky? Would they exit Ukraine?

    Easiest way to disable and make ICBMs obsolete is to make their navigation system obsolete.

    Easiest way to make navigation systems obsolete is to down satellites.

    Easiest way to down satellites is a Laser beam zapping for 5 seconds on a "satellite panel". And so, down falls the satellite.

    Now are the satellites coordinated in GLONASS? For if coordinated and synchronized, there is the physical possibility of "if we down one of the satellites, all of GLONASS satellites are downed".




    Armondikov
    Archimedes Plutonium | Spherical Bullshit sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/02/06/archimedes-plutonium/‎

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    Feb 6, 2013 - Via PsyGremlin via PZ Myers, this is Archimedes Plutonium, my new favourite crank hat. I was really fucking surprised to have taken this long to ...

    Nomen Nescio artwork in use:


    NATO's most reliable LASER SATELLITE RIFLE

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    [ ] Did You Catch The Hidden Message Behind Sergey Lavrov's speech at UN
    [ ] Mister Smartypants
    [ ] Darwinian Finch
    [ ] just for fun I plotted North Korean BeiDou satellite and shot it down


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    has a big LASER SATELLITE RIFLE will shoot to pieces the GLONASS
    [ ] Another boatload of BeiDou satellites felled



    Nomen Nescio, artist for Usenet sci.math and sci.physics, three cheers to Nomen


    GLONASS Award:
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    [ ] THE HEART OF % Virgin
    [ ] Scientists can now quickly link to Xi's Haishenwai red ball caps in shooting down BeiDou and GLONASS
    [ ] "All for one!" "One for all!" "Every man for himself!"
    [ ] The Prize-- a date with the cheese skirt queen
    The hours are approaching rapidly and we need GLONASS either in the dark or best of all-- misfiring their missiles from Russia and striking Russian and Chinese cities. We want Kim Jong-un to see a Russian missile intended for Ukraine to level
    Pyongyang, all by a hacking into the Intel chips of GLONASS.

    The mass exodus at Twitter is that they wanted GLONASS to hack, not BeiDou.
    Jam all 24 GLONASS satellites of their Intel chips and you wipe out the ability of Russia's fleet of 6,000 ICBM missiles.

    GNS satellites orbit at a high orbit, MUCH higher than
    LEO, just not as high as geosynchronous satellites. GPS orbit is 20,200
    km, GLONASS is 19,100 km. At such heights, debris will remain essentially forever, and the satellites won't crash for centuries, if ever.
    StupidPlutonium, "GPS" receiver chipsets have long been GNSS chipsets
    that deliver what they believe to be the best data from whatever satellites they happen to see.

    molesting a countries GNSS satellites would be viewed
    as an act of war no different from attackiing a navel fleet or bombing a
    city.

    elude to a Intel chip on GLONASS 24 satellites and all that is needed is to jamm those intel chips and we have 24 malfunctioning satellites, wiping out the navigation of all 6,000 Russian ICBM.

    Skoal!!!

    Did you get a Xi red baseball cap with Haishenwai on it?

    & wrote:
    _And as the Baby Xi grew up from the rice paddies and reeds of Outer Manchuria, stolen by the Naxi and Zani Dictator Putin in Moscow, Xi learned in school in chemical engineering that Taiwan was 1/28 the size of Outer Manchuria, Emperor Qing's homeland, now occupied by homeless Russians drinking vodka, as Putin bombs Ukraine. And the nascent Xi orders
    1,000 divisions to the Outer Manchuria border to regain back the stolen
    Why Putin is 2X smarter than Xi as dictators// SCIENCE COUNCIL RULES EARTH, not petty dictators
    2m views


    If Putin pushes nuclear buttons, he drags down China along with Russia into a nuclear ash waste pile, and this means Xi is a inferior junior partner to Putin. Putin will drag down Xi's China, never the reverse.

    2/1, AP tards:
    Give Ukraine drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/2, AP tards:
    Give Ukraine drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/3, AP tards:
    Every Russian missile fired into Ukraine met with a drone from Ukraine knocking out Moscow electric power lines

    Give Ukraine drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/4, AP tards:
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/9 (vacation?), AP tards:
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/9, AP tards (again):
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/10, AP tards:
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/11, AP tards:
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/12, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/12, AP tards again:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/13, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/14, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/15, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/16, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/17, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/18, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/19, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/20, AP tards:

    Electricity out Novosibirsk &Volgograd█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/22, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/23, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/24, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/25, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/26, AP tards:


    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Tue Aug 8 10:52:40 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    The Starmaker wrote:

    i think those russian and china ships near alaska is just a diversion...
    they don't want you to look someplace else. But I'm looking..someplace
    else.

    where is dat wargner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)?


    it could be a game of chess...

    russia makes a move and china protects the move with a chess piece of
    their own.


    wats the next move?

    they gonna bomb alaska????

    they'll kill all the penquins!!!




    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Tue Aug 8 15:41:28 2023
    On Monday, 7 August 2023 at 11:17:51 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 7 August 2023 at 10:43:18 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    (after consuming lots of laxatives supplied by Archie)
    I don't know if you've followed Banerjee's posts over a longer
    period of time, but a while back he admitted that he skipped
    a lot of classes and even paid others to take exams for him,
    I did skip some classes in IIT Kgp and IIT Delhi because I had to, but whodumbo is lying (what is new) when he writes that I paid others to take exams for me. As a liar, whodumbo is perfectly reliable, and in his way, quite funny. Makes me laugh.

    Best lie was about the slope of my garage shed. It had to be sloped, in order for the armature to roll down by gravity! !!! The moron Moroney, being just a moron and not such a liar, has his halwa tight on this, not even suggesting that I pushed the
    armature with one finger of mine.

    rotflw4pita

    I got a First Class Honours degree for my B.Tech. in Electronics and Electrical Communication Engineering from IIT Kharagpur in 1978, never failed a single subject.
    As I was elected the top student representative (Vice President of the Gymkhana) in 1977, I had extra responsibilities, so sometimes had to skip classes.
    I got M.Tech in Computer Science from the Mathematics Department of IIT Delhi in 1986, studying part time while working full time. As I was working full-time, I could not attend all the classes. Quite normal. For my thesis, I worked on a totally new
    area, "Information Systems based on Partial-Match Retrievals" which anticipated googling. My paper "A new method for partial match retrievals" was published in 1987 in US, my company paid for me to go there, and so all the wonders that followed. In this,
    and in many other areas.

    Anyway, my degrees have nothing to do with my inventions and discoveries relating to Internal Force Engines. My work experience in the top industrial research facilities in India and Australia mean much more.

    More importantly, they have given me a small measure of financial independence allowing me to indulge my hobbies, such as revising the basics of physics.

    Cheers,
    Arindam Banerjee

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 8 23:49:26 2023
    In the last decade, I have come to look upon August 1 as like the end of summer, although I know summer has August still to go.

    Any way the feeling of August registers the end of something for me, as in the saying "the August of life".

    I like La Nina, far better than El Nino, if it is La Nina I am experiencing in 2023. The years 2020, 2021, 2022 have been horrible drought years. It is raining hard tonight. And rained last week also. I was getting worried since the last 2 weeks of July
    had no rain. But then in early August we got 2.5cm of rain, and now tonight another 2.5cm.
    So we have a mild drought for 2023. We had severe drought for 2020-2022.

    I am so happy that I am starting to put the hoses away for winter.

    Wikipedia calls the La Nina as the "colder counterpart of El Nino". And gradually I am learning that droughts are the absence of sufficient cold fronts to slice through those heat domes of high pressure and cause rain.

    So 2023, has be a good year, as I will not spend the entire summer plus autumn as nothing more than water-boy.

    Good year in that I can begin fixing buildings and other projects before winter.

    Good year in I think no plants or trees died due to drought, although I was hugely worried of losing most of the hazelnut bushes. And the grass stayed green throughout the entire summer.

    Looks like I will enjoy this Autumn, for a change. If this is a La Nina, hopefully it will stay around for the next 3 years.

    AP

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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Thu Aug 10 08:35:54 2023
    On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 3:41:32 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 7 August 2023 at 11:17:51 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 7 August 2023 at 10:43:18 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    (after consuming lots of laxatives supplied by Archie)
    I don't know if you've followed Banerjee's posts over a longer
    period of time, but a while back he admitted that he skipped
    a lot of classes and even paid others to take exams for him,
    I did skip some classes in IIT Kgp and IIT Delhi because I had to, but whodumbo is lying (what is new) when he writes that I paid others to take exams for me. As a liar, whodumbo is perfectly reliable, and in his way, quite funny. Makes me laugh.

    Best lie was about the slope of my garage shed. It had to be sloped, in order for the armature to roll down by gravity! !!! The moron Moroney, being just a moron and not such a liar, has his halwa tight on this, not even suggesting that I pushed the
    armature with one finger of mine.

    rotflw4pita

    I got a First Class Honours degree for my B.Tech. in Electronics and Electrical Communication Engineering from IIT Kharagpur in 1978, never failed a single subject.
    As I was elected the top student representative (Vice President of the Gymkhana) in 1977, I had extra responsibilities, so sometimes had to skip classes.
    I got M.Tech in Computer Science from the Mathematics Department of IIT Delhi in 1986, studying part time while working full time. As I was working full-time, I could not attend all the classes. Quite normal. For my thesis, I worked on a totally new
    area, "Information Systems based on Partial-Match Retrievals" which anticipated googling. My paper "A new method for partial match retrievals" was published in 1987 in US, my company paid for me to go there, and so all the wonders that followed. In this,
    and in many other areas.

    Anyway, my degrees have nothing to do with my inventions and discoveries relating to Internal Force Engines. My work experience in the top industrial research facilities in India and Australia mean much more.
    More importantly, they have given me a small measure of financial independence allowing me to indulge my hobbies, such as revising the basics of physics.

    Cheers,
    Arindam Banerjee

    Wider World: "Yeah, you never say that slur word. This guy is an f'in piece of work for sure, though."

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  • From whodat@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Rubard on Thu Aug 10 15:22:11 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    On 8/10/2023 10:35 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 3:41:32 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 7 August 2023 at 11:17:51 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 7 August 2023 at 10:43:18 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    (after consuming lots of laxatives supplied by Archie)
    I don't know if you've followed Banerjee's posts over a longer
    period of time, but a while back he admitted that he skipped
    a lot of classes and even paid others to take exams for him,
    I did skip some classes in IIT Kgp and IIT Delhi because I had to, but whodumbo is lying (what is new) when he writes that I paid others to take exams for me. As a liar, whodumbo is perfectly reliable, and in his way, quite funny. Makes me laugh.

    Best lie was about the slope of my garage shed. It had to be sloped, in order for the armature to roll down by gravity! !!! The moron Moroney, being just a moron and not such a liar, has his halwa tight on this, not even suggesting that I pushed the
    armature with one finger of mine.

    rotflw4pita

    I got a First Class Honours degree for my B.Tech. in Electronics and Electrical Communication Engineering from IIT Kharagpur in 1978, never failed a single subject.
    As I was elected the top student representative (Vice President of the Gymkhana) in 1977, I had extra responsibilities, so sometimes had to skip classes.
    I got M.Tech in Computer Science from the Mathematics Department of IIT Delhi in 1986, studying part time while working full time. As I was working full-time, I could not attend all the classes. Quite normal. For my thesis, I worked on a totally new
    area, "Information Systems based on Partial-Match Retrievals" which anticipated googling. My paper "A new method for partial match retrievals" was published in 1987 in US, my company paid for me to go there, and so all the wonders that followed. In this,
    and in many other areas.

    Anyway, my degrees have nothing to do with my inventions and discoveries relating to Internal Force Engines. My work experience in the top industrial research facilities in India and Australia mean much more.
    More importantly, they have given me a small measure of financial independence allowing me to indulge my hobbies, such as revising the basics of physics.

    Cheers,
    Arindam Banerjee

    Wider World: "Yeah, you never say that slur word. This guy is an f'in piece of work for sure, though."

    I appreciate the sentiment but frankly I wouldn't give Banerjee
    even that little bit of credit. He alters his stories to suit the
    occasion as he understands the world through a jumbled brain.

    But my main point in this posting isn't so much to criticize him
    as it is to direct his, and all the other local cranks, attention
    to a TV special available on you tube. Since the cranks have a
    propensity to direct attention to their favorite "idol" of the
    moment I thought I would return the favor as they seem to find
    popular media presentations more informative than peer reviewed
    journals and/or textbooks on subjects they claim to know better
    than their teachers.

    Arindam try this you tube presentation on for size. It addresses
    a number of your contentions in language even you are capable
    of understanding.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dROkWymbkdo

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  • From whodat@21:1/5 to Laurence Clark Crossen on Thu Aug 10 17:36:18 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    On 8/10/2023 3:57 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:

    The idea of advanced science in very ancient India is mainly supported by what is known as the "Roy" translation of the Mahabharata. This version was written after the discovery of the atomic bomb and devised to seem as if atomic power and airplanes
    were known in 3000 BCE, including "mercury vortex powered" vimanas.


    More appropriate to be discussed at one of the highlighted
    newsgroups at:

    http://www.mit.edu/people/tgowrish/tgowrish/india_ngroups.html

    Do you know what "physics" is?

    "vimanas"

    Vimāna are mythological flying palaces or chariots described in Hindu
    texts and Sanskrit epics. The "Pushpaka Vimana"...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vimana

    But then almost everything you've been posting here involves mythology
    of one sort or another. That appears to be a crankish characteristic.

    If you have Indian ancestry please take culturally related topics like
    the above to one of the culturally appropriate newsgroups. Banerjee
    keeps attempting to bring his Hindu gods and goddesses into sci.physics
    and they're not happy with the prospects of standard western critique.

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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to whodat on Thu Aug 10 23:53:21 2023
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 08:36:30 UTC+10, whodat wrote:
    On 8/10/2023 3:57 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:

    So how much is my garage floor tilted so that the armature can roll down by the force of gravity, whodumbo?
    Let us get that straight.

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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 10 23:55:38 2023
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 06:22:24 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    its usual rubbish, avoiding the key question, how much is the floor of my garage or shed sloped to let the armature roll down the rails with the force of gravity...

    To think that such whodat-class creeps rule the world, makes the flesh crawl.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Fri Aug 11 09:10:47 2023
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 11:53:25 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 08:36:30 UTC+10, whodat wrote:
    On 8/10/2023 3:57 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
    So how much is my garage floor tilted so that the armature can roll down by the force of gravity, whodumbo?
    Let us get that straight.

    Wider World: "Even the Indian fraud gets mad, and so on."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 11 08:38:47 2023
    Give Ukraine drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity


    Beijing_▂▄▅█████████▅▄▃Moscow mushroom cloud, Xi as Putin's stooge when Russia vaporizes Beijing with its RS-28 Sarmat "Satan II", all because Xi was too dumb to realize you can never trust an insane person


    On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 9:03:40 AM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    "Putin's Stooge"
    Angel, Kibo Parry Moron-ey-Volney thinks you can bolt down a city to protect it from Russian Sarmat
    On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 11:56:20 PM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    Botfly of Math and Blowfly of Physics "Putin's stooge"
    "wasn't bolted down too tight in the first place"

    reporting in China news the beast criminals of Russia should have been tried in International Court of Justice for war crimes before vaporizing Chinese cities as Putin pushes nuclear buttons.


    Pentcho Valev spamming as China under Russian Sarmats. Does it remind Pentcho of Nero fiddling while Rome burnt???


    Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Chongqing, Tianjin, Chengdu, Hangzhou, Nanjing, Wuhan, Xi'An, Suzhou, Harbin, Shenyang, Qingdao, Zhengzhou, Dongguan, Foshan, Dalian, Jinan, Changchun, Hefei

    Shenzhen▂▄▅█████████▅▄▃▂ Xi as Putin's stooge when Russia vaporizes Shenzhen with its RS-28 Sarmat "Satan II", all because Xi was too dumb to realize you can never trust an insane person

    On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 11:56:20 PM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    Botfly of Math and Blowfly of Physics "Putin's stooge"
    "wasn't bolted down too tight in the first place"

    On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 1:16:55 AM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote:
    "Imp of Science"
    "not one single marble of commonsense in my entire brain"


    & wrote:
    _And as the Baby Xi grew up, surrounded by concubines, from the rice paddies and reeds of Outer
    Manchuria, stolen by the Naxi and Zani Dictator Putin in Moscow, Xi learned in school in chemical engineering that Taiwan was 1/28 the size of Outer Manchuria, Emperor Qing's homeland, now occupied by homeless Russians drinking vodka, as Putin bombs Ukraine. And the nascent Xi orders
    1,000 divisions to the Outer Manchuria border to regain back the stolen
    Why Putin is 2X smarter than Xi as dictators// SCIENCE COUNCIL RULES EARTH, not petty dictators
    2m views


    If Putin pushes nuclear buttons, he drags down China along with Russia into a nuclear ash waste pile, and this means Xi is a inferior junior partner to Putin. Putin will drag down Xi's China, never the reverse.

    So, one can look at the present situation on Earth and ask several logical questions about the 2 dictators of Putin's Russia and China's Xi.

    It is little wonder that both Russia and China dictators are combative towards the West. Because dictators never want to give up on power but stay in power all their life long. So they oppose the West because the West has grown up to democracy--
    let the people have power, not one single idiot having power all his life time.

    5 > Naturally, Putin will want to keep the Russian people suppressed and have Russia be a second rate government as a dictator. Same goes for China-- they never want to give up power so the people themselves choose their leader.

    But can we find differences in Putin and Xi themselves? Well in the West we call the Chinese inscrutable-- meaning -- little logical commonsense. And is this a valid description?? Yes of course, considering that Russia had stolen the lands of
    Outer Manchuria, some 28 times larger of a land mass than is Taiwan island. Yet there is Xi, spending so much time on wanting to invade Taiwan, when it is Outer Manchuria and Vladivostok (Haishenwai) that he should be focusing attention upon. And while
    Putin is distracted with Ukraine, is the time for Xi to recapture Outer Manchuria, the Qing dynasty empire, Qing's Manchurian homeland.

    What does Xi do instead??? He focuses on Taiwan and befriends Russia. Why, at this rate, if Russia takes Inner Manchuria, we can expect Xi and the Chinese Communist Party to become even more loving of Russia for stealing more land of China.

    And there is Xi, whose China has become rich with trading with the West, yet every day, Xi foaming at the mouth in hatred of the West.

    So yes, Putin is 2X smarter as a dictator than is Xi, as if Putin has Xi in his side pocket.

    Is there some scientific explanation as to why Xi is 2X dumber than Putin?? Perhaps, in that China is densely populated and the air pollution over all of China is worse than most countries. That Xi probably has 1/2 of his brain filled with CO and
    CO2 isomers and lead, and mercury and nitrous oxide and sulfur dioxide from just living in that air polluted hellhole of Beijing. Xi studied chemistry and should know this. Whereas Putin likely detox..s every evening with breathing in pure oxygen at his
    residence and takes oxygen breathing tanks to office and work. This easily can explain the light-headed reasoning that Xi and his foreign diplomats Wang Yi display, where Putin plays them like a chess game, --- checkmate in 7 moves.

    This explains why Xi hates the West for not stealing any Chinese lands and making China rich in trade, while loving Putin for stealing Outer Manchuria, and proposing having Russia push nuclear buttons, making both Russia and China a nuclear waste
    site after ICBMs wipe China off the map.

    Xi's brain is full of air pollution toxins from the nasty Chinese air. They still build a new coal fired plant in China every day. The air in China is the worst air in the entire world.

    6 > Why Putin is 2X smarter than Xi as dictators// SCIENCE COUNCIL RULES EARTH, not petty dictators.

    Pentcho is this what happens to China when they follow the insane Putin, tag-a-long, tag-a-long and then all of a sudden--- dragged into a mushroom cloud

    Xi Haishenwai red baseball cap offered to Putin

    ███۞███████ ]▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▃ ▂▄▅█████████▅▄▃▂ I███████████████████]. ◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙◤...



    Steady aim. Firing the Satellite Rifle to take down GLONASS and BeiDou//Armondikov--Feb 6, 2013 - Via PsyGremlin via PZ Myers, this is Archimedes Plutonium, my new favourite crank hat. SATELLITE LASER RIFLE--bring down GLONASS

    Sergey Lavrov what would Russia do, once it sees their GLONASS satellites falling out of the sky? Would they exit Ukraine?

    Easiest way to disable and make ICBMs obsolete is to make their navigation system obsolete.

    Easiest way to make navigation systems obsolete is to down satellites.

    Easiest way to down satellites is a Laser beam zapping for 5 seconds on a "satellite panel". And so, down falls the satellite.

    Now are the satellites coordinated in GLONASS? For if coordinated and synchronized, there is the physical possibility of "if we down one of the satellites, all of GLONASS satellites are downed".




    Armondikov
    Archimedes Plutonium | Spherical Bullshit sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/02/06/archimedes-plutonium/‎

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    Feb 6, 2013 - Via PsyGremlin via PZ Myers, this is Archimedes Plutonium, my new favourite crank hat. I was really fucking surprised to have taken this long to ...

    Nomen Nescio artwork in use:


    NATO's most reliable LASER SATELLITE RIFLE

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    Yea, another GLONASS satellite downed
    Kid : Mom can I go out and watch the satellite.
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    [ ] Did You Catch The Hidden Message Behind Sergey Lavrov's speech at UN
    [ ] Mister Smartypants
    [ ] Darwinian Finch
    [ ] just for fun I plotted North Korean BeiDou satellite and shot it down


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    has a big LASER SATELLITE RIFLE will shoot to pieces the GLONASS
    [ ] Another boatload of BeiDou satellites felled



    Nomen Nescio, artist for Usenet sci.math and sci.physics, three cheers to Nomen


    GLONASS Award:
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    [ ] THE HEART OF % Virgin
    [ ] Scientists can now quickly link to Xi's Haishenwai red ball caps in shooting down BeiDou and GLONASS
    [ ] "All for one!" "One for all!" "Every man for himself!"
    [ ] The Prize-- a date with the cheese skirt queen
    The hours are approaching rapidly and we need GLONASS either in the dark or best of all-- misfiring their missiles from Russia and striking Russian and Chinese cities. We want Kim Jong-un to see a Russian missile intended for Ukraine to level
    Pyongyang, all by a hacking into the Intel chips of GLONASS.

    The mass exodus at Twitter is that they wanted GLONASS to hack, not BeiDou.
    Jam all 24 GLONASS satellites of their Intel chips and you wipe out the ability of Russia's fleet of 6,000 ICBM missiles.

    GNS satellites orbit at a high orbit, MUCH higher than
    LEO, just not as high as geosynchronous satellites. GPS orbit is 20,200
    km, GLONASS is 19,100 km. At such heights, debris will remain essentially forever, and the satellites won't crash for centuries, if ever.
    StupidPlutonium, "GPS" receiver chipsets have long been GNSS chipsets
    that deliver what they believe to be the best data from whatever satellites they happen to see.

    molesting a countries GNSS satellites would be viewed
    as an act of war no different from attackiing a navel fleet or bombing a
    city.

    elude to a Intel chip on GLONASS 24 satellites and all that is needed is to jamm those intel chips and we have 24 malfunctioning satellites, wiping out the navigation of all 6,000 Russian ICBM.

    Skoal!!!

    Did you get a Xi red baseball cap with Haishenwai on it?


    Moscow█۞█ blackout, knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity



    Ukraine cannot win a war if it has nada, no, zero offense, it needs to knock out Russian electric lines. And the Baltic states can help.
    Knock out electricity in
    Novosibirsk
    Yekaterinburg
    Novgorod
    Samara
    Omsk
    Kazan
    Rostov-na-Donu
    Chelyabinsk
    Ufa
    Perm


    _Every Russian missile fired into Ukraine met with a drone from Ukraine knocking out Moscow electric power lines

    _Give Ukraine drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    NO ONE CAN WIN A FIGHT UNLESS THEY HAVE AN OFFENSE!!!!!!

    NO ONE CAN WIN A FIGHT UNLESS THEY HAVE AN OFFENSE!!!!!!

    NO ONE CAN WIN A FIGHT UNLESS THEY HAVE AN OFFENSE!!!!!!

    _No one can win a fight or war without any offense, West, Biden give Ukraine drones that knock out electricity inside Russia

    _End the Ukraine war by March 2023 as the Russian people depose the dictator

    _rolling electric blackouts and give Iran to Iraq-- a blooming democracy, not a stupid dictator

    _And as the Baby Xi grew up from the rice paddies and reeds of Outer Manchuria, stolen by the Naxi and Zani Dictator Putin in Moscow, Xi learned in school in chemical engineering that Taiwan was 1/28 the size of Outer Manchuria, as Putin bombs
    Ukraine. And the nascent Xi orders 1,000 divisions to the Outer Manchuria border to regain back the stolen Old China.

    _Xi has 1,000 divisions on Vladivostok border ready to swoop in and reclaim the stolen land of Outer Manchuria. See reconnaissance photo above of 1,000 divisions.

    NATO and the West has just two good options here, for Putin should have been removed in 2006 with Litvinenko poisoning. Now the insane Putin can poison the entire world with a nuclear war. Putin needed to go in 2006, for insanity just gets worse and
    worse.

    Either
    (1) give Ukraine drones to knock out electric power in Moscow and beyond Or
    (2) give Ukraine NATO membership and tell Russia to clear out in a week or NATO forces go in and clear them out.

    Of course, every day Putin and Russia needs reminding that if he presses nuclear buttons or nuclear bomb on Ukraine that Russia will be a nuclear ash pile before the day is out.

    What should have been done in 2006, unfortunately that delay to 2022. Same can be said of Hitler-- he should have been removed in the early 1930s before his insanity got going.

    & wrote:
    _And as the Baby Xi grew up from the rice paddies and reeds of Outer Manchuria, stolen by the Naxi and Zani Dictator Putin in Moscow, Xi learned in school in chemical engineering that Taiwan was 1/28 the size of Outer Manchuria, Emperor Qing's homeland, now occupied by homeless Russians drinking vodka, as Putin bombs Ukraine. And the nascent Xi orders
    1,000 divisions to the Outer Manchuria border to regain back the stolen
    Why Putin is 2X smarter than Xi as dictators// SCIENCE COUNCIL RULES EARTH, not petty dictators
    2m views


    If Putin pushes nuclear buttons, he drags down China along with Russia into a nuclear ash waste pile, and this means Xi is a inferior junior partner to Putin. Putin will drag down Xi's China, never the reverse.


    2/1, AP tards:
    Give Ukraine drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/2, AP tards:
    Give Ukraine drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/3, AP tards:
    Every Russian missile fired into Ukraine met with a drone from Ukraine knocking out Moscow electric power lines

    Give Ukraine drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/4, AP tards:
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/9 (vacation?), AP tards:
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/9, AP tards (again):
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/10, AP tards:
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/11, AP tards:
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/12, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/12, AP tards again:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/13, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/14, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/15, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/16, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/17, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/18, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/19, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/20, AP tards:

    Electricity out Novosibirsk &Volgograd█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/22, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/23, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/24, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/25, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/26, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 11 08:31:44 2023
    Beijing_▂▄▅█████████▅▄▃Moscow mushroom cloud, Xi as Putin's stooge when Russia vaporizes Beijing with its RS-28 Sarmat "Satan II", all because Xi was too dumb to realize you can never trust an insane person


    On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 9:03:40 AM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    "Putin's Stooge"
    Angel, Kibo Parry Moron-ey-Volney thinks you can bolt down a city to protect it from Russian Sarmat
    On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 11:56:20 PM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    Botfly of Math and Blowfly of Physics "Putin's stooge"
    "wasn't bolted down too tight in the first place"

    reporting in China news the beast criminals of Russia should have been tried in International Court of Justice for war crimes before vaporizing Chinese cities as Putin pushes nuclear buttons.


    Pentcho Valev spamming as China under Russian Sarmats. Does it remind Pentcho of Nero fiddling while Rome burnt???


    Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Chongqing, Tianjin, Chengdu, Hangzhou, Nanjing, Wuhan, Xi'An, Suzhou, Harbin, Shenyang, Qingdao, Zhengzhou, Dongguan, Foshan, Dalian, Jinan, Changchun, Hefei

    Shenzhen▂▄▅█████████▅▄▃▂ Xi as Putin's stooge when Russia vaporizes Shenzhen with its RS-28 Sarmat "Satan II", all because Xi was too dumb to realize you can never trust an insane person

    On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 11:56:20 PM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    Botfly of Math and Blowfly of Physics "Putin's stooge"
    "wasn't bolted down too tight in the first place"

    On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 1:16:55 AM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote:
    "Imp of Science"
    "not one single marble of commonsense in my entire brain"


    & wrote:
    _And as the Baby Xi grew up, surrounded by concubines, from the rice paddies and reeds of Outer
    Manchuria, stolen by the Naxi and Zani Dictator Putin in Moscow, Xi learned in school in chemical engineering that Taiwan was 1/28 the size of Outer Manchuria, Emperor Qing's homeland, now occupied by homeless Russians drinking vodka, as Putin bombs Ukraine. And the nascent Xi orders
    1,000 divisions to the Outer Manchuria border to regain back the stolen
    Why Putin is 2X smarter than Xi as dictators// SCIENCE COUNCIL RULES EARTH, not petty dictators
    2m views


    If Putin pushes nuclear buttons, he drags down China along with Russia into a nuclear ash waste pile, and this means Xi is a inferior junior partner to Putin. Putin will drag down Xi's China, never the reverse.

    So, one can look at the present situation on Earth and ask several logical questions about the 2 dictators of Putin's Russia and China's Xi.

    It is little wonder that both Russia and China dictators are combative towards the West. Because dictators never want to give up on power but stay in power all their life long. So they oppose the West because the West has grown up to democracy--
    let the people have power, not one single idiot having power all his life time.

    5 > Naturally, Putin will want to keep the Russian people suppressed and have Russia be a second rate government as a dictator. Same goes for China-- they never want to give up power so the people themselves choose their leader.

    But can we find differences in Putin and Xi themselves? Well in the West we call the Chinese inscrutable-- meaning -- little logical commonsense. And is this a valid description?? Yes of course, considering that Russia had stolen the lands of
    Outer Manchuria, some 28 times larger of a land mass than is Taiwan island. Yet there is Xi, spending so much time on wanting to invade Taiwan, when it is Outer Manchuria and Vladivostok (Haishenwai) that he should be focusing attention upon. And while
    Putin is distracted with Ukraine, is the time for Xi to recapture Outer Manchuria, the Qing dynasty empire, Qing's Manchurian homeland.

    What does Xi do instead??? He focuses on Taiwan and befriends Russia. Why, at this rate, if Russia takes Inner Manchuria, we can expect Xi and the Chinese Communist Party to become even more loving of Russia for stealing more land of China.

    And there is Xi, whose China has become rich with trading with the West, yet every day, Xi foaming at the mouth in hatred of the West.

    So yes, Putin is 2X smarter as a dictator than is Xi, as if Putin has Xi in his side pocket.

    Is there some scientific explanation as to why Xi is 2X dumber than Putin?? Perhaps, in that China is densely populated and the air pollution over all of China is worse than most countries. That Xi probably has 1/2 of his brain filled with CO and
    CO2 isomers and lead, and mercury and nitrous oxide and sulfur dioxide from just living in that air polluted hellhole of Beijing. Xi studied chemistry and should know this. Whereas Putin likely detox..s every evening with breathing in pure oxygen at his
    residence and takes oxygen breathing tanks to office and work. This easily can explain the light-headed reasoning that Xi and his foreign diplomats Wang Yi display, where Putin plays them like a chess game, --- checkmate in 7 moves.

    This explains why Xi hates the West for not stealing any Chinese lands and making China rich in trade, while loving Putin for stealing Outer Manchuria, and proposing having Russia push nuclear buttons, making both Russia and China a nuclear waste
    site after ICBMs wipe China off the map.

    Xi's brain is full of air pollution toxins from the nasty Chinese air. They still build a new coal fired plant in China every day. The air in China is the worst air in the entire world.

    6 > Why Putin is 2X smarter than Xi as dictators// SCIENCE COUNCIL RULES EARTH, not petty dictators.

    Pentcho is this what happens to China when they follow the insane Putin, tag-a-long, tag-a-long and then all of a sudden--- dragged into a mushroom cloud

    Xi Haishenwai red baseball cap offered to Putin

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    Steady aim. Firing the Satellite Rifle to take down GLONASS and BeiDou//Armondikov--Feb 6, 2013 - Via PsyGremlin via PZ Myers, this is Archimedes Plutonium, my new favourite crank hat. SATELLITE LASER RIFLE--bring down GLONASS

    Sergey Lavrov what would Russia do, once it sees their GLONASS satellites falling out of the sky? Would they exit Ukraine?

    Easiest way to disable and make ICBMs obsolete is to make their navigation system obsolete.

    Easiest way to make navigation systems obsolete is to down satellites.

    Easiest way to down satellites is a Laser beam zapping for 5 seconds on a "satellite panel". And so, down falls the satellite.

    Now are the satellites coordinated in GLONASS? For if coordinated and synchronized, there is the physical possibility of "if we down one of the satellites, all of GLONASS satellites are downed".




    Armondikov
    Archimedes Plutonium | Spherical Bullshit sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/02/06/archimedes-plutonium/‎

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    has a big LASER SATELLITE RIFLE will shoot to pieces the GLONASS
    [ ] Another boatload of BeiDou satellites felled



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    [ ] THE HEART OF % Virgin
    [ ] Scientists can now quickly link to Xi's Haishenwai red ball caps in shooting down BeiDou and GLONASS
    [ ] "All for one!" "One for all!" "Every man for himself!"
    [ ] The Prize-- a date with the cheese skirt queen
    The hours are approaching rapidly and we need GLONASS either in the dark or best of all-- misfiring their missiles from Russia and striking Russian and Chinese cities. We want Kim Jong-un to see a Russian missile intended for Ukraine to level
    Pyongyang, all by a hacking into the Intel chips of GLONASS.

    The mass exodus at Twitter is that they wanted GLONASS to hack, not BeiDou.
    Jam all 24 GLONASS satellites of their Intel chips and you wipe out the ability of Russia's fleet of 6,000 ICBM missiles.

    GNS satellites orbit at a high orbit, MUCH higher than
    LEO, just not as high as geosynchronous satellites. GPS orbit is 20,200
    km, GLONASS is 19,100 km. At such heights, debris will remain essentially forever, and the satellites won't crash for centuries, if ever.
    StupidPlutonium, "GPS" receiver chipsets have long been GNSS chipsets
    that deliver what they believe to be the best data from whatever satellites they happen to see.

    molesting a countries GNSS satellites would be viewed
    as an act of war no different from attackiing a navel fleet or bombing a
    city.

    elude to a Intel chip on GLONASS 24 satellites and all that is needed is to jamm those intel chips and we have 24 malfunctioning satellites, wiping out the navigation of all 6,000 Russian ICBM.

    Skoal!!!

    Did you get a Xi red baseball cap with Haishenwai on it?


    Moscow█۞█ blackout, knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity



    Ukraine cannot win a war if it has nada, no, zero offense, it needs to knock out Russian electric lines. And the Baltic states can help.
    Knock out electricity in
    Novosibirsk
    Yekaterinburg
    Novgorod
    Samara
    Omsk
    Kazan
    Rostov-na-Donu
    Chelyabinsk
    Ufa
    Perm


    _Every Russian missile fired into Ukraine met with a drone from Ukraine knocking out Moscow electric power lines

    _Give Ukraine drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    NO ONE CAN WIN A FIGHT UNLESS THEY HAVE AN OFFENSE!!!!!!

    NO ONE CAN WIN A FIGHT UNLESS THEY HAVE AN OFFENSE!!!!!!

    NO ONE CAN WIN A FIGHT UNLESS THEY HAVE AN OFFENSE!!!!!!

    _No one can win a fight or war without any offense, West, Biden give Ukraine drones that knock out electricity inside Russia

    _End the Ukraine war by March 2023 as the Russian people depose the dictator

    _rolling electric blackouts and give Iran to Iraq-- a blooming democracy, not a stupid dictator

    _And as the Baby Xi grew up from the rice paddies and reeds of Outer Manchuria, stolen by the Naxi and Zani Dictator Putin in Moscow, Xi learned in school in chemical engineering that Taiwan was 1/28 the size of Outer Manchuria, as Putin bombs
    Ukraine. And the nascent Xi orders 1,000 divisions to the Outer Manchuria border to regain back the stolen Old China.

    _Xi has 1,000 divisions on Vladivostok border ready to swoop in and reclaim the stolen land of Outer Manchuria. See reconnaissance photo above of 1,000 divisions.

    NATO and the West has just two good options here, for Putin should have been removed in 2006 with Litvinenko poisoning. Now the insane Putin can poison the entire world with a nuclear war. Putin needed to go in 2006, for insanity just gets worse and
    worse.

    Either
    (1) give Ukraine drones to knock out electric power in Moscow and beyond Or
    (2) give Ukraine NATO membership and tell Russia to clear out in a week or NATO forces go in and clear them out.

    Of course, every day Putin and Russia needs reminding that if he presses nuclear buttons or nuclear bomb on Ukraine that Russia will be a nuclear ash pile before the day is out.

    What should have been done in 2006, unfortunately that delay to 2022. Same can be said of Hitler-- he should have been removed in the early 1930s before his insanity got going.

    & wrote:
    _And as the Baby Xi grew up from the rice paddies and reeds of Outer Manchuria, stolen by the Naxi and Zani Dictator Putin in Moscow, Xi learned in school in chemical engineering that Taiwan was 1/28 the size of Outer Manchuria, Emperor Qing's homeland, now occupied by homeless Russians drinking vodka, as Putin bombs Ukraine. And the nascent Xi orders
    1,000 divisions to the Outer Manchuria border to regain back the stolen
    Why Putin is 2X smarter than Xi as dictators// SCIENCE COUNCIL RULES EARTH, not petty dictators
    2m views


    If Putin pushes nuclear buttons, he drags down China along with Russia into a nuclear ash waste pile, and this means Xi is a inferior junior partner to Putin. Putin will drag down Xi's China, never the reverse.


    2/1, AP tards:
    Give Ukraine drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/2, AP tards:
    Give Ukraine drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/3, AP tards:
    Every Russian missile fired into Ukraine met with a drone from Ukraine knocking out Moscow electric power lines

    Give Ukraine drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/4, AP tards:
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/9 (vacation?), AP tards:
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/9, AP tards (again):
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/10, AP tards:
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/11, AP tards:
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/12, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/12, AP tards again:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/13, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/14, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/15, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/16, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/17, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/18, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/19, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/20, AP tards:

    Electricity out Novosibirsk &Volgograd█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/22, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/23, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/24, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/25, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/26, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity


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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Rubard on Fri Aug 11 15:09:45 2023
    On Saturday, 12 August 2023 at 02:10:51 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 11:53:25 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 08:36:30 UTC+10, whodat wrote:
    On 8/10/2023 3:57 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
    So how much is my garage floor tilted so that the armature can roll down by the force of gravity, whodumbo?
    Let us get that straight.
    Wider World: "Even the Indian fraud gets mad, and so on."
    And that is the best the land of MIT can do these days.
    How things degenerate!

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Aug 12 01:13:09 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    On 5/28/2023 6:17 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 5/28/2023 3:31 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 5/28/2023 12:22 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 5/27/2023 9:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 5/27/2023 8:45 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    ChatGPT, an online chatbot created by OpenAI, has shown success
    passing several national benchmarking exams, including the SAT, the >>>>>>> GRE and a bar exam. It has even shown the ability to pass the U.S. >>>>>>> Medical Licensing Exam...

    Bullshit.

    I gave it a simple but tricky (to some idiots) math question and it >>>>>> failed!..


    What was the "simple but tricky (to some idiots) math question"?... so >>>>> that others here can confirm if
    what you say is true or not.


    If you don't post it here...then that confirms it isn't true.









    Hehe :) I can make you interested anytime I wish no matter how you try >>>> to weasel your way around it.

    Telegram, for a limited period, allowed I believe less than 10
    questions
    be asked from ChatGPT4 (latest version back then) free of charge. It
    isn't free anymore.

    I asked it: "If you have 100 pounds of potatoes, knowing that they are >>>> 99% water (weight percent) and let them dry in air long enough to get
    them down to 98% water, how much do they weigh now?"

    The AI's answer reflected the same mistake that fools make :) Even
    after
    telling it the answer was wrong, it kept making a slightly different
    mistake. The poor thing was just like Alsing :-))) Couldn't really
    think. It just searched and searched in other areas each time for the
    answer. So about four of my questions got blown for nothing. But I got >>>> to understand its abilities, what it could really do and what it was
    helplessly not made for.

    Maybe your problem is...you need to Learn to Prompt.


    Here is the answer ChatGPT ver 3 free version gave:

    .................chatgpt........................................................

    To solve this problem, we need to calculate the weight of water in
    the original 100 pounds of potatoes and then determine the weight of
    potatoes with 98% water content.

    Let's start by finding the weight of water in 100 pounds of potatoes
    with 99% water content:

    Weight of water = 99% of 100 pounds
    = (99/100) * 100 pounds
    = 99 pounds

    Now, let's calculate the weight of potatoes (solid matter) in the
    original 100 pounds:

    Weight of potatoes = Total weight - Weight of water
    = 100 pounds - 99 pounds
    = 1 pound

    Since we want to find the weight of potatoes when the water content
    is reduced to 98%, we can set up the following equation:

    Weight of potatoes = (Weight of potatoes + Weight of water) / (1 - 0.98) >>>
    Let's calculate the weight of potatoes with 98% water content:

    Weight of potatoes = (1 pound + 99 pounds) / (1 - 0.98)
    = 100 pounds / 0.02
    = 5000 pounds

    Therefore, when the potatoes are dried to 98% water content, they
    would weigh approximately 5000 pounds.








    Hehe :) As you see!

    AI's problem is, it cannot think for itself. It can only refer to near
    endless sources of information based on its take of the task you give
    it. But that does _not_ equal thinking. Ability to analyze is
    something beyond having all the information in the world accessible to
    you and knowing the English language. A library cannot think.

    The correct answer to the question is of course 50 pounds. When one
    pound of dry matter was 1% of total weight before, then having the
    same 1 pound of dry matter as 2% of total weight requires that the
    total weight be half of what it was before, i.e. 50 pounds. But AI
    cannot do this reasoning cause it is an Alsing type of equipment. You
    can have an Alsing endlessly toil for you in various other ways, but
    thinking is not one of them.

    By the way, if the AI you tried is free to use, then it is not even as
    good as the one I tried some months back.




    I just used the free version of the AI online. This is what it gave me:

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    To solve this problem, we need to calculate the weight of the potatoes
    after the water content decreases from 99% to 98%.

    Let's assume the initial weight of the potatoes is 100 pounds, and their water content is 99%. This means that 99% of the weight is water and 1%
    is the dry matter.

    Weight of water = 99% of 100 pounds = 99 pounds
    Weight of dry matter = 1% of 100 pounds = 1 pound

    Now, let's calculate the weight of the potatoes when their water content decreases to 98%.

    New weight of dry matter = Weight of dry matter / (1 - final water content)
    = 1 pound / (1 - 0.98)
    = 1 pound / 0.02
    = 50 pounds

    The weight of the water will remain the same since it's not evaporated. Therefore, the weight of the potatoes after drying to 98% water content is:

    Weight of dry matter + Weight of water
    = 50 pounds + 99 pounds
    = 149 pounds

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    As you can see, it cannot keep the logic for long. As soon as its
    attention shifts, the line of logic suffers when it comes back to the previous point. So it can sure start on the right path, but commits
    simple mistakes in logic. It's nothing beyond an Alsing. At best, some hit-and-miss equipment.


    Now why is that? Let's be a physicist and take a look. The developers
    have jumped logical steps early on, banking on the assumption that intelligence is some emerging process. Well, tough luck. It is not.

    This project hasn't worked so far because bullshit doesn't get you
    anywhere. Bullshit only works in the business of fooling people to make money. It does not work in science.

    The very first step of development of it has thus had a flaw :) What
    _was_ the very first step, you might ask. It is the same step that
    Backus (creator of FORTRAN language) demanded around 1960 to get done
    and never saw it fully done. It was only half done, which is what now we
    know as FORTRAN language.

    Backus was very irritated by the extent of spoon-feeding work required
    in the assembly language. So he aimed at a language where you'd give the necessary information to it and what you want done (and knowing in
    advance that with that information that purpose can be fulfilled by a programmer), then would ask something like, "Now create a code to
    implement that purpose." He wanted the compiler to take care of all the little steps and get the code correctly written in the machine language. Well, this never got done! Instead of going towards achieving this goal,
    the fucking "engineers" kept repeating the same shit over and over in
    the form of newly made programming languages that did nothing but
    repeating the already existing abilities. The task got shifted from the
    hands of scientists and fell into the hands of "engineers" :-( So now we
    have 750 different programming languages, and not _one_ of them does
    what Backus wanted.

    In the interview he gave 6 months before his death, he expressed his
    bitter disappointment in the way programming has "developed." In fact, programming never developed beyond the FORTRAN that he had created in
    early 60s. Nobody took one step beyond that.

    Now these "AI" guys want to jump ahead of the horses. They want to have
    their programs do that without solving this fundamental issue first.
    Their idea is, "Just give it all the information in the world and train
    it by telling it what is right in various different situations". As if
    by some magic, the program itself - THAT SAME FORTRAN! - can somehow
    learn to do that. But this is bullshit of course.

    So when the day comes that what Backus wanted is achieved (which is achievable indeed), only then, the process can successfully continue.
    But "engineers" don't and won't and cannot do that. Mathematicians and scientists can. The departments of "natural philosophy" can do it, not
    your fucking "engineering" schools.










    By the way, it is fair to add that Backus later did the math required
    for taking that vital next step forward in creating and increasing
    actual intelligence in a programming language (i.e. making it more and
    more so-called "high-level"). But by then (late 1960s) millions of
    "engineers" had hijacked programming languages for making money off of
    them. A "cook" doesn't care about the science of nutrition. He just
    looks up the recipes and follows the steps and boom - his food is ready,
    it's time for him to get paid and go home.

    So nobody in 1969 (I think that's when he got it done) even understood
    Backus's vital work aimed at that goal. In fact, only one mathematician
    in the world ever studied his work fully and to some extent participated
    as well. And Backus tried and tried from then on for decades to put this
    into the minds of those who should've taken such concepts and
    implemented them in the programming languages. He never succeeded.
    Businesses and governments and scientific institutions packed with
    "engineers" instead of scientists had gotten their "FORTRAN" and were
    happily cooking meals with it. They didn't want anything more. And to
    this day, 63 years later, any programming language you pick, you see the
    same old FORTRAN disguised, thanks to individuals with nothing in mind
    other than paying their mortgages with it.

    So Backus did his part, both in the first vital steps (creating
    FORTRAN), and more so in about 10 years of additional work thereafter,
    focusing on adding "intelligence" to the language enough to at least successfully handle his original 1960 question, or demand. But nobody
    else did their parts. Instead of doing it, they would only give him
    "rewards" :-( And very soon it was Carter era, the beginning of the end
    of the USA as a first world nation, culminating in the full-speed
    descent with Reagan and whoever came after to lead and deal with such
    matters and opportunities for advancement of humans.

    Hehe :)

    Dark Ages happen, don't they :) ... Just leave your science to your "engineers." To "cooks". Leave your Churches in the hands of prostitutes.







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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 12 01:08:18 2023
    new toilet paper brand--Saving forests by people learning to defecate with water only, no toilet paper, like the East does everyday // Ecology science

    My 197th published book

    Saving forests by people learning to defecate with water only, no toilet paper, like the East does everyday // Ecology science

    by Archimedes Plutonium (Author) , (Amazon's Kindle edition)

    Last revision was March 2023. And this is AP's 197th published book of science.

    Preface: This book really started to form during the pandemic covid-19 in 2020, as I was getting butt sores. So sore that even walking felt like one butt cheek was cutting into the other butt cheek. I figured out what was causing the problem-- that the
    toilet paper in the pandemic was too coarse, not soft enough. And so each trip to the toilet and wiping with toilet paper was more like sandpapering my butt. So I had to find a solution. I remembered my Peace Corp experience in the 1970s in Malaysia,
    trying to teach math in Malaysia. And learning that there was a alternative way of cleaning the butt, using only water. So in 2020, with butt-sores, after just 2-3 days of water only, no more problems. But there is a far more important ecology aspect of
    toilet paper. For it is a extravagancy that kills and wastes our forests, forests needed for climate change and proper rainfall distribution. Have you ever driven from a hot climate into a forest? Notice the nice cool feeling!!

    Cover Picture: My photograph in year 2000, of Mount Katahdin in Maine. See the lovely tree forest of evergreens and the hardwood trees turning color in Autumn. One Internet-web site says that humans cut down 15 billion trees a year and replant 5 billion,
    for a net loss of 10 billion trees per year. At this rate, Earth would have no more trees in 300 years from now. If true, then pictures of mountains will have no forests in the picture.


    Product details
    • ASIN ‏ : ‎ B0B8XJRHLR
    • Publication date ‏ : ‎ August 6, 2022
    • Language ‏ : ‎ English
    • File size ‏ : ‎ 811 KB
    • Text-to-Speech ‏ : ‎ Enabled
    • Screen Reader ‏ : ‎ Supported
    • Enhanced typesetting ‏ : ‎ Enabled
    • X-Ray ‏ : ‎ Not Enabled
    • Word Wise ‏ : ‎ Enabled
    • Print length ‏ : ‎ 20 pages
    • Lending ‏ : ‎ Enabled

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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Sat Aug 12 08:31:53 2023
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 3:09:49 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 12 August 2023 at 02:10:51 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 11:53:25 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 08:36:30 UTC+10, whodat wrote:
    On 8/10/2023 3:57 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
    So how much is my garage floor tilted so that the armature can roll down by the force of gravity, whodumbo?
    Let us get that straight.
    Wider World: "Even the Indian fraud gets mad, and so on."
    And that is the best the land of MIT can do these days.
    How things degenerate!

    "The land of MIT", very good, very good.

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to Archimedes Plutonium on Sat Aug 12 13:54:37 2023
    Recently a interesting research came up on one of the chapters of this book-- "stool regulation".

    I had a bad case of diarrhea for almost 6 months and was looking for a natural relief. Found it in tea drinking, drink the leaf and all.

    But recently a new item has come to play-- lemonade without sugar.

    And it is perhaps the raw oranges I consume that gave me the diarrhea.

    This is interesting for both oranges and lemons are vitamin C rich. But it must be in the other chemicals in lemons that causes hard stools. And some chemical in oranges must cause diarrhea.

    I am thus going to experiment and observe this phenomenon, and if true, add it to this book.

    It is nice to have stools at such and such a consistency that you spend little time in clean-up or streaked underwear.

    A nice hard stool makes the trip to the bathroom nice. But the stool must not be too hard as to cause pain in pooping.

    With soft stools and diarrhea-- you waste much time in clean up. And you cause trees to be cut for toilet paper.


    On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 11:57:51 PM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    Alright taking a Google search of "can you walk without a gluteus maximus" delivers these hits.
    --- quoting Google search ---
    Your gluteal muscles have some important features:
    essential for the stability of the hips when walking. Without them you would topple over to one side. Gluteus maximus supports the extended (straight) knee. It does this via the iliotibial tract (ITB).Aug 28, 2017

    The importance of the gluteal muscle (buttock)
    The Pain Relief and Wellness Clinic
    https://www.painreliefwellness.com.au › 2017/08/28 › th...
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    Without the gluteus medius muscle we would lack stance phase stability when standing, walking or running. Gluteal amnesia, sometimes referred to as dead butt syndrome, is a condition where the gluteal muscles become weakened or do not fire properly.

    Gluteus Medius | The Sit Muscle | Sitting at a Desk All Day

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    Search for: Can you walk without the gluteal muscle?
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    Gluteus maximus is the primary hip extensor muscle, and also the largest of the three gluteals. Their biggest job is in keeping us upright and pushing our bodies forward. "Strong gluteals are important for proper pelvic alignment, propulsion during
    walking and running, and even standing on one leg.
    --- end quoting Google search on gluteus maximus ---

    Alright I am convinced running and walking is impossible without gluteus maximal. But I had thought more in the lines of propelling motion, rather than that of balance. The majority of above authors seem to place more emphasis on balance.

    AP

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 12 14:58:30 2023
    Can_Dr.Mitesh Patel,Pallab Ghosh,Jeffrey Rubard,Dr.Brendan Casey,Prof Graziano Venanzoni--Please, please--step into Fermilab or CERN physics or chemistry lab and weigh the mass of Electrolysis Water, proving Water is H4O not H2O. AP's homegrown lab
    cannot do the fine tuning experiment of weighing a test tube of electrolyzed hydrogen and oxygen from water. If AP is correct Water is really H4O, not H2O. My weighing scale is puny and insufficient for the job at hand, 0.00001 gram or less of hydrogen
    and oxygen test tubes. If AP is correct the hydrogen is 1/4 the weight of oxygen, if mainstream chemistry, physics is correct the hydrogen is 1/8 in amu to oxygen.


    Jeffrey Rubard (pronounced rhubarb) wonders how on Earth chemistry got away with never weighing hydrogen versus oxygen atomic mass units in Electrolysis of water.-- Why, the fools stopped at looking when the test tubes were full of hydrogen but not
    actually weighing them. They stopped the experiment with "volume" look, my hydrogen is twice the volume of oxygen-- duh, duh....
    On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 1:42:39 PM UTC-7, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    *Can_Dr.John Goodenough (chem),J.Rubard,Dr.Douglas Abraham, Dr.Prateek Agrawal, Dr.Wade Allison, --please--step into the Oxford Univ physics or chemistry lab and weigh the mass of Electrolysis Water, proving Water is H4O not H2O. AP's homegrown lab
    cannot do the fine tuning experiment of weighing a test tube of electrolyzed hydrogen and oxygen from water. If AP is correct Water is really H4O, not H2O. My weighing scale is puny and insufficient for the job at hand, 0.00001 gram or less of hydrogen
    and oxygen test tubes. If AP is correct the hydrogen is 1/4 the weight of oxygen, if mainstream chemistry, physics is correct the hydrogen is 1/8 in amu to oxygen.

    +Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within

    +Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within

    3m views Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium


    Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within the accuracy I need for weighing a test tube of oxygen then a test tube of hydrogen from water electrolysis.


    Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium

    In Old Chemistry and Old Physics, their subatomic particles were do nothing and no function and no job particles that sit around as balls or whiz around the outside of balls doing nothing but pointless circling.

    In New Physics and New Chemistry-- All is Atom and Atoms are nothing but electricity and magnetism. Every subatomic particle has a job a function a purpose as to the Laws of Electromagnetism--- Faraday law, Coulomb law, Ampere law, Capacitor
    law.

    A proton is a torus of 840MeV with 840 windings, while the muon is the true electron of Atoms and is encased inside the proton torus thrusting through and producing electricity-- magnetic monopoles.

    The neutron of Atoms is a parallel plate capacitor storing the electricity of proton+muon and is skin cover on the outside of the proton torus in the form of parallel plates.

    Can hydrogen be a Atom if it is just a proton+muon? No, all atoms require to have a capacitor such as at least one neutron. Thus the Hydrogen Atom is H2 where you have 2 proton+muon where 1 of the 2 proton+muon acts like a neutron to the other
    proton+muon. Thus, water molecule is not H2O but rather is H4O.

    AP is waiting for experimental chemists and physicists to prove him correct that Water is H4O.

    In the meantime we have Hydroxyl which in Old Chemistry, especially Biology is OH, while AP says that is wrong and that is really H2O.

    Now glycerine is a hydroxyl with formula C3H8O3. And what I am thinking at this moment, is that hydroxyls will be an easier proof that Water is truly H4O, rather than wait for experimentalists to actually "weigh the electrolysis test tubes of
    oxygen and hydrogen".

    You see, with H4O as water, glycerine is C3(2 waters)O with an extra oxygen. If Water is H2O then glycerine is C3(4 waters) deficit O. It is missing an oxygen if water is H2O.

    The reason glycerine is so effective as a skin ointment is because it has glycerine, the extra O oxygen. If water were H2O, then glycerine would be a missing oxygen and not a skin lotion that works, but makes skin even more dry.

    Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium

    Archimedes Plutonium<[email protected]>
    12:24 AM (13 hours ago)



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    --- quoting in part from source-- Study.com ---
    Perhaps there is only two Faraday laws on Electrolysis. I am looking at the one that states: Faraday's first law of electrolysis relates the mass of a substance liberated (or deposited) at an electrode to the electric charge used (Q). A
    proportionality constant Z can be used:

    m = ZQ = (E/96485)(Q)

    m = mass, Q = total charge rewritten as Q = I*t amperes x time in seconds.

    This website gives an example: 5amps passed through molten Sodium Chloride for 3 hours. Calculate the mass of Sodium. E=23/1.

    m = (23/96485) (5) (3*60*60) approx 12.87 grams.

    --- end quoting in part from source-- Study.com ---

    Now has such a experiment been performed on Water to see how much atomic mass of hydrogen and of oxygen results??? If AP is correct, the formula of water is H4O, if Old Physics, Old Chemistry is correct the formula is H2O. So which is it???

    AP


    No, sorry no, Faraday's Law of Electrolysis is not going to tell the correct mass of hydrogen.

    Reading Wikipedia on Faraday's Electrolysis law.

    --- quoting Wikipedia ---
    A monovalent ion requires 1 electron for discharge, a divalent ion requires 2 electrons for discharge and so on. Thus, if x electrons flow,
    x/v atoms are discharged.

    So the mass m discharged is

    m= (xM)/vN_A) = (QM)/(eN_A *v) = (QM) / (vF)
    where
    N_A is the Avogadro constant;
    Q = xe is the total charge, equal to the number of electrons (x) times the elementary charge e;
    F is the Faraday constant.
    --- end quoting Wikipedia ---

    No, the Faraday law of Electrolysis will not work on water with a correct answer, because H is not an atom but H2 is an Atom. And where one of the proton+muon converts to being a neutron to the other proton+muon.

    So if Faraday's law of Electrolysis was applied to water, thinking it would deliver a true answer is mistaken because the one H converts to neutron.

    So it appears that we need to directly measure the test tube of oxygen and the test tube of hydrogen by a direct mass measurement.

    AP
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    I doubt we can measure a test tube of hydrogen or test tube of oxygen, too small to determine the mass on some sort of weight scale.

    But here is a possible lucrative idea. We should be able to get pure deuterium water. Then run the electrolysis. Collect the test tubes.

    Now have some sort of balancing beam weight scale. Place the regular water of hydrogen test tube on one side, and place the deuterium water hydrogen test tube on other side. If they stay balanced, then AP is correct and Water is really H4O.

    AP
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    Cosmic Rays from Sun

    90% of Sun's cosmic rays are 840MeV proton+muon inside = H. The hydrogen Atom is H2 where one of the H proton+muon converts to being a neutron.

    When these proton+muon hit Earth atmosphere, they can turn into pions and muons.

    I commented that H alone is a subatomic particle and that makes sense in the idea that Sun's cosmic rays are 90% these proton+muon.

    Now is interstellar hydrogen H2 and intergalactic hydrogen H2 formed when one H cosmic ray joins up with another H cosmic ray to form H2 atom?

    Is this how we get H2 in outer space? From the splitting apart of H2 into H cosmic rays?

    So how much of the Sun's hydrogen is H2 and how much is H ready to join with another H and reform back into H2. Probably little of the Sun's H is H alone, and the vast majority of the Sun's hydrogen is H2.

    How much deuterium in the Sun? And it is a higher percentage than the deuterium in water on Earth?

    AP
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    Water is the only known non-metallic substance that expands when if freezes; its density decreases and it expands approximately 9% by volume. (Source: web Lunar and Planetary Institute)

    I have to wait for experimental chemists and physicists to weigh the mass of test tubes from electrolysis, as to the verdict-- water is H4O.

    But until that news comes in, I will look for other means of proof.

    So AP says that the H2 is not a molecule but is the hydrogen Atom itself, where one proton+muon converts to a neutron and capacitates the other proton+muon which undergo the Faraday law.

    There are subatomic particles of H in the form of Cosmic Rays from the Sun, but most of the Sun's hydrogen is H2, and flips back and forth from H to rejoining to form H2. Some gets away from the Sun and is cosmic rays.

    But H2 is an Atom and H is a fleeting subatomic particle.

    So can I prove Water is H4O from the data of Spectral lines of H2 is the same as deuterium, only slight difference is that the deuterium is a full fledged neutron not a makeshift proton+muon of H.

    I suspect that special trait of water freezing is a proof that Water is H4O. Because the 840MeV proton torus with muon inside doing the Faraday law acting as a makeshift neutron capacitor for the other 840MeV proton torus with muon inside, is
    where H2 gets that expansion characteristic.

    A neutron is a parallel plate capacitor and those plates can expand when frozen temperature occurs. As the temperature gets colder, those plates move further apart.

    Now does deuterium which truly has a full neutron, does it expand also when frozen?? If so, does it expand as much as H2 which is 2 protons with 2 muons inside?

    So comparing the freezing and expansion of the parallel plates of a neutron in deuterium with the freezing and expansion of one of the proton+muon that is acting as a makeshift neutron in H2.

    If I can numbers correlate the H2 expansion with the Deuterium expansion would be a alternative proof that Water is really H4O and not H2O.

    AP
    to
    So now on Blankenship's book "Molecular Mechanisms of Photosynthesis", 2014, page 134, shows The structure of ATP, ADP, AMP. And within that structure are OH hydroxyls.

    In New Chemistry, water is truly H4O, and where hydroxyls are now H2O. And we have first proof of this in the Figure 8.1 of Blankenship's "Chemical structure of ATP".

    For in the lower left corner of the diagram, Blankenship has a H+ all alone, (really a mindless error) and has P surrounded by O-, O-, O and OH. The OH is really H2O for hydroxyls are H2O and water itself is H4O, and that would leave that
    mindless H+ as being hydrogen Atom of H2.

    The world of physics and chemistry should drop what they are doing and weigh the electrolysis test tube of hydrogen and oxygen to discover the correct true formula of water is H4O.

    AP is total confident, becuase an Atom cannot exist if it has no capacitor structure such as a neutron, or one of the H in H2 acting as a neutron. I am totally confident that Water formula is truly H4O. And I need look only to methane of H4C,
    to realize that there is no HC, no H2C, no H3C, but starts with H4C, and that tells me water starts with H4O. Totally confident that Old Chemistry, Old Physics did electrolysis experiments and the moment they saw hydrogen test tube be 2x volume of oxygen
    test tube, they dropped their work and went out for a Danish and coffee break, rather than finish their work--- actual physics weighing of atomic mass units (not the Faraday electrolysis law for it does not apply to water).

    When water electrolysis is physics weighed, AP is confident that there are 4H per every one oxygen O. And that Water is truly H4O.

    AP, King of Science
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    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 8:56:57 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within the accuracy I need for weighing a test tube of oxygen then a test tube of hydrogen from water electrolysis.

    Now modern day physics and chemist experimenters can really do a marvelous job if they wanted to. For they could freeze the test tubes of oxygen and hydrogen to where they are liquid and compare liquids from water electrolysis.
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    So, what AP is saying here is that we do electrolysis of water. We collect the two test tubes, one with oxygen the other with hydrogen.

    To prove Water is truly the formula H4O and not H2O we must weigh the masses of the two tubes to find that the ratio is 1 x 16amu to 4 x 1amu.

    The silly grotesque science error of the past was to look at volumes in the two test tubes-- "Hey-- the hydrogen is twice the volume of oxygen so the formula of water is H2O".

    No, way was that science good practice. For the correct formula of water needs to be measured by mass, by atomic mass units where Oxygen is 16amu and hydrogen is 1amu.

    I suspect a balance beam scale is good enough to see the hydrogen test tube will be 1/4 as massive as the oxygen test tube. To get within precision of electronic weighing scale of 0.00001 gram we just have to make a larger test tube of
    electrolysis of water.

    AP is betting that the readings will be hydrogen test tube 1/4 the mass of oxygen test tube proving Water formula is truly H4O.

    Old Physics and Old Chemistry is betting that the mass experiment will have the hydrogen test tube be 1/8 the mass of the oxygen test tube, proving Water formula is H2O.

    AP does not have these precision equipment to conduct an at-home experiment of this nature.

    AP
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    So, once Water is found to actually be H4O, not H2O, we move on to methane, and ask the same question of its hydrogen bonds. Is Methane really that of H8C and not H4C.

    Well, looking in the literature for anomalies to methane, I come across a arXiv "Low and high-temperature anomalies in the physical properties of solid methane "The anomalous behavior of thermodynamic, spectral, plastic, elastic and some other
    properties of solid methane is discussed near 20.48K and...

    AP wonders: if they can get methane to solid form, well, I am then hopeful that the mass of the molecule can be determined. Because if methane is truly H8C, that difference of H4 in atomic mass units would be very much noticeable difference.

    Chemistry Europe--
    "The Anomalous Deuterium Isotope Effect in the NMR Spectrum of Methane...

    P Vermeeren, 2023
    "The abnormally long and weak methylidyne C-H bond.."
    "The C-H bond of the methylidyne radical, CH*, is abnormally long and weak, even longer and..."

    AP asks, are these anomalies solved if we consider methane is actually H8C and not H4C?

    AP


    My 250th published book.

    TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY; H2 is the hydrogen Atom and water is H4O, not H2O// Chemistry
    by Archimedes Plutonium (Author) (Amazon's Kindle)
    Prologue: This textbook is 1/2 research history and 1/2 factual textbook combined as one textbook. For many of the experiments described here-in have not yet been performed, such as water is really H4O not H2O. Written in a style of history research
    with date-time markers, and fact telling. And there are no problem sets. This book is intended for 1st year college. Until I include problem sets and exercises, I leave it to the professor and instructor to provide such. And also, chemistry is hugely a
    laboratory science, even more so than physics, so a first year college student in the lab to test whether Water is really H4O and not H2O is mighty educational.

    Preface: This is my 250th book of science, and the first of my textbooks on Teaching True Chemistry. I have completed the Teaching True Physics and the Teaching True Mathematics textbook series. But had not yet started on a Teaching True Chemistry
    textbook series. What got me started on this project is the fact that no chemistry textbook had the correct formula for water which is actually H4O and not H2O. Leaving the true formula for hydroxyl groups as H2O and not OH. But none of this is possible
    in Old Chemistry, Old Physics where they had do-nothing subatomic particles that sit around and do nothing or go whizzing around the outside of balls in a nucleus, in a mindless circling. Once every subatomic particle has a job, task, function, then
    water cannot be H2O but rather H4O. And a hydrogen atom cannot be H alone but is actually H2. H2 is not a molecule of hydrogen but a full fledged Atom, a single atom of hydrogen.

    Cover Picture: Sorry for the crude sketch work but chemistry and physics students are going to have to learn to make such sketches in a minute or less. Just as they make Lewis diagrams or ball & stick diagrams. My 4-5 minute sketch-work of the Water
    molecule H4O plus the subatomic particle H, and the hydrogen atom H2. Showing how one H is a proton torus with muon inside (blue color) doing the Faraday law. Protons are toruses with many windings. Protons are the coils in Faraday law while muons are
    the bar magnets. Neutrons are the capacitors as parallel plates, the outer skin cover of atoms.

    Product details
    • ASIN ‏ : ‎ B0CCLPTBDG
    • Publication date ‏ : ‎ July 21, 2023
    • Language ‏ : ‎ English
    • File size ‏ : ‎ 788 KB
    • Text-to-Speech ‏ : ‎ Enabled
    • Screen Reader ‏ : ‎ Supported
    • Enhanced typesetting ‏ : ‎ Enabled
    • X-Ray ‏ : ‎ Not Enabled
    • Word Wise ‏ : ‎ Enabled
    • Sticky notes ‏ : ‎ On Kindle Scribe
    • Print length ‏ : ‎ 168 pages






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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Sat Aug 12 15:57:14 2023
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 16:55:42 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 06:22:24 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    its usual rubbish, avoiding the key question, how much is the floor of my garage or shed sloped to let the armature roll down the rails with the force of gravity...

    To think that such whodat-class creeps rule the world, makes the flesh crawl.

    Really!

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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Sun Aug 13 08:47:58 2023
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 3:57:18 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 16:55:42 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 06:22:24 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    its usual rubbish, avoiding the key question, how much is the floor of my garage or shed sloped to let the armature roll down the rails with the force of gravity...

    To think that such whodat-class creeps rule the world, makes the flesh crawl.

    Really!

    "The land of MIT", oh my goodness, not at all the parvenu, very good, very good.

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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Rubard on Sun Aug 13 14:57:20 2023
    On Monday, 14 August 2023 at 01:48:01 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 3:57:18 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 16:55:42 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 06:22:24 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    its usual rubbish, avoiding the key question, how much is the floor of my garage or shed sloped to let the armature roll down the rails with the force of gravity...

    To think that such whodat-class creeps rule the world, makes the flesh crawl.

    Really!
    "The land of MIT", oh my goodness, not at all the parvenu, very good, very good.
    Like Mohicans now. Gone with the wind.
    Greed and cowardice have done them in.
    E=mcc=hv rules! There, and everywhere. Sad.
    Else they would have invited me to give lecture-demos of my rail gun experiments.

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 13 21:34:39 2023
    Today is Sunday, 13Aug 2023, and last night we had a nice long rain. At this stage in my life, 73 years old, I have never grown so fond of rain than anytime in my youth. 4 years of drought will easily do that, no matter how old one is.

    And I love the fresh clean air after a rainfall. We must have had 3cm last night and day. And with the cool, chilly air, I deem this day as the start of Autumn Fall. Seasons are when we feel they are a season. I had to wear a jacket this night. And good
    that the air conditioner is off.

    I would say that 2023 was a drought year, although nowhere as harsh as 2020,2021, and 2022. No huge water bills every month.

    And today I collected some hazelnuts fallen, and found them ripe. So will do the hazelnut harvest. I had bought a new blender, juicer, smoothie, and will make more smoothies of pears, apples, plums.

    All and all, I am happy and making progress in selling my real estate to move to Seattle, for I cannot stand drought any longer.

    As for books, well today I just published my 252nd science book, and happy about that progress.

    Today I started to empty the water tanks for the roof downspouts and put them away for winter, plus the hoses.

    My chives have dwindled to just one major clump and divided that into 4 sections so hoping that next Spring I have 4 big clumps. I am transplanting strawberries for the winter cold frame. Now that the grasshoppers are dying away. Grasshoppers were bad
    this year, butchering my asparagus and rhubarb and many flowering plants. They seem to leave watermelon alone. Watermelon must have some chemical that is unpalatable to grasshoppers.

    I am hoping that I can finish off many projects on buildings-- gutter work, roof work, siding work, that I had scheduled this last Spring but never got to them. I suppose my science work had a lot to do with my laziness, but a day has only 24 hours.

    My mind seems to be as good as ever, although I do notice a tiny bit of forgetfulness. So it seems that memory is the first decline of the mind.

    My balance is declining faster than my memory. I have slight difficulty in putting my socks on by standing on one foot.

    I took a colonscopy stool chemical test that came back-- no cancer, and so very happy about that.
    And I need to check when the age of stopping to have to take tests on colon?? Was it the age 70??

    I have not caught the covid-19, as I wear a respirator around people, and have all my boosters.

    If I were to grade my life in 2023 so far in terms of happiness and productivity, I would give it a A, not a A+ but just a A. For I still have not thoroughly cleaned the inside of my house, to make a A+ grade.

    AP

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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Mon Aug 14 08:45:06 2023
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 2:57:25 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 14 August 2023 at 01:48:01 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 3:57:18 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 16:55:42 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 06:22:24 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    its usual rubbish, avoiding the key question, how much is the floor of my garage or shed sloped to let the armature roll down the rails with the force of gravity...

    To think that such whodat-class creeps rule the world, makes the flesh crawl.

    Really!
    "The land of MIT", oh my goodness, not at all the parvenu, very good, very good.
    Like Mohicans now. Gone with the wind.
    Greed and cowardice have done them in.
    E=mcc=hv rules! There, and everywhere. Sad.
    Else they would have invited me to give lecture-demos of my rail gun experiments.

    "You don't really know any science, do you? I don't know much, myself."

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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Rubard on Mon Aug 14 14:26:45 2023
    On Tuesday, 15 August 2023 at 01:45:10 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 2:57:25 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 14 August 2023 at 01:48:01 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 3:57:18 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 16:55:42 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 06:22:24 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    its usual rubbish, avoiding the key question, how much is the floor of my garage or shed sloped to let the armature roll down the rails with the force of gravity...

    To think that such whodat-class creeps rule the world, makes the flesh crawl.

    Really!
    "The land of MIT", oh my goodness, not at all the parvenu, very good, very good.
    Like Mohicans now. Gone with the wind.
    Greed and cowardice have done them in.
    E=mcc=hv rules! There, and everywhere. Sad.
    Else they would have invited me to give lecture-demos of my rail gun experiments.
    "You don't really know any science, do you? I don't know much, myself."
    And unwilling to learn, naturally.

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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Mon Aug 14 15:19:41 2023
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 2:26:48 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 15 August 2023 at 01:45:10 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 2:57:25 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 14 August 2023 at 01:48:01 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 3:57:18 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 16:55:42 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 06:22:24 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    its usual rubbish, avoiding the key question, how much is the floor of my garage or shed sloped to let the armature roll down the rails with the force of gravity...

    To think that such whodat-class creeps rule the world, makes the flesh crawl.

    Really!
    "The land of MIT", oh my goodness, not at all the parvenu, very good, very good.
    Like Mohicans now. Gone with the wind.
    Greed and cowardice have done them in.
    E=mcc=hv rules! There, and everywhere. Sad.
    Else they would have invited me to give lecture-demos of my rail gun experiments.
    "You don't really know any science, do you? I don't know much, myself."
    And unwilling to learn, naturally.

    "I'm not looking to get hired, here." #hinthint

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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Rubard on Tue Aug 15 08:33:47 2023
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 3:19:45 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 2:26:48 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 15 August 2023 at 01:45:10 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 2:57:25 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 14 August 2023 at 01:48:01 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 3:57:18 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 16:55:42 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 06:22:24 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    its usual rubbish, avoiding the key question, how much is the floor of my garage or shed sloped to let the armature roll down the rails with the force of gravity...

    To think that such whodat-class creeps rule the world, makes the flesh crawl.

    Really!
    "The land of MIT", oh my goodness, not at all the parvenu, very good, very good.
    Like Mohicans now. Gone with the wind.
    Greed and cowardice have done them in.
    E=mcc=hv rules! There, and everywhere. Sad.
    Else they would have invited me to give lecture-demos of my rail gun experiments.
    "You don't really know any science, do you? I don't know much, myself."
    And unwilling to learn, naturally.
    "I'm not looking to get hired, here." #hinthint

    (Tired claptrap, mountains and mountains of it.)

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  • From whodat@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Rubard on Tue Aug 15 10:52:15 2023
    On 8/15/2023 10:33 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 3:19:45 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 2:26:48 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote: >>> On Tuesday, 15 August 2023 at 01:45:10 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 2:57:25 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote: >>>>> On Monday, 14 August 2023 at 01:48:01 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: >>>>>> On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 3:57:18 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 16:55:42 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote: >>>>>>>> On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 06:22:24 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    its usual rubbish, avoiding the key question, how much is the floor of my garage or shed sloped to let the armature roll down the rails with the force of gravity...

    To think that such whodat-class creeps rule the world, makes the flesh crawl.

    Really!
    "The land of MIT", oh my goodness, not at all the parvenu, very good, very good.
    Like Mohicans now. Gone with the wind.
    Greed and cowardice have done them in.
    E=mcc=hv rules! There, and everywhere. Sad.
    Else they would have invited me to give lecture-demos of my rail gun experiments.
    "You don't really know any science, do you? I don't know much, myself." >>> And unwilling to learn, naturally.
    "I'm not looking to get hired, here." #hinthint

    (Tired claptrap, mountains and mountains of it.)

    Arindam gets wound up very easily. Recently he was an assistant
    men's room attendant. In those days it was all shit talk. These
    "mountains of claptrap" represent a wonderful advance on his part.

    Perhaps soon he will calm down into rationality.

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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to whodat on Tue Aug 15 11:35:56 2023
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 8:52:25 AM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
    On 8/15/2023 10:33 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 3:19:45 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 2:26:48 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote: >>> On Tuesday, 15 August 2023 at 01:45:10 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: >>>> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 2:57:25 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 14 August 2023 at 01:48:01 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: >>>>>> On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 3:57:18 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 16:55:42 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 06:22:24 UTC+10, whodat wrote: >>>>>>>>
    its usual rubbish, avoiding the key question, how much is the floor of my garage or shed sloped to let the armature roll down the rails with the force of gravity...

    To think that such whodat-class creeps rule the world, makes the flesh crawl.

    Really!
    "The land of MIT", oh my goodness, not at all the parvenu, very good, very good.
    Like Mohicans now. Gone with the wind.
    Greed and cowardice have done them in.
    E=mcc=hv rules! There, and everywhere. Sad.
    Else they would have invited me to give lecture-demos of my rail gun experiments.
    "You don't really know any science, do you? I don't know much, myself." >>> And unwilling to learn, naturally.
    "I'm not looking to get hired, here." #hinthint

    (Tired claptrap, mountains and mountains of it.)
    Arindam gets wound up very easily. Recently he was an assistant
    men's room attendant. In those days it was all shit talk. These
    "mountains of claptrap" represent a wonderful advance on his part.

    Perhaps soon he will calm down into rationality.

    "Is this what they call 'sockpuppetry'?"

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From whodat@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Rubard on Tue Aug 15 15:37:42 2023
    On 8/15/2023 1:35 PM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 8:52:25 AM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
    On 8/15/2023 10:33 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 3:19:45 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: >>>> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 2:26:48 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote: >>>>> On Tuesday, 15 August 2023 at 01:45:10 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: >>>>>> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 2:57:25 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 14 August 2023 at 01:48:01 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: >>>>>>>> On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 3:57:18 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 16:55:42 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 06:22:24 UTC+10, whodat wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    its usual rubbish, avoiding the key question, how much is the floor of my garage or shed sloped to let the armature roll down the rails with the force of gravity...

    To think that such whodat-class creeps rule the world, makes the flesh crawl.

    Really!
    "The land of MIT", oh my goodness, not at all the parvenu, very good, very good.
    Like Mohicans now. Gone with the wind.
    Greed and cowardice have done them in.
    E=mcc=hv rules! There, and everywhere. Sad.
    Else they would have invited me to give lecture-demos of my rail gun experiments.
    "You don't really know any science, do you? I don't know much, myself." >>>>> And unwilling to learn, naturally.
    "I'm not looking to get hired, here." #hinthint

    (Tired claptrap, mountains and mountains of it.)
    Arindam gets wound up very easily. Recently he was an assistant
    men's room attendant. In those days it was all shit talk. These
    "mountains of claptrap" represent a wonderful advance on his part.

    Perhaps soon he will calm down into rationality.

    "Is this what they call 'sockpuppetry'?"

    I don't know what you mean here as I see nothing applicable. Do you?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to whodat on Tue Aug 15 14:37:17 2023
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 01:52:25 UTC+10, whodat wrote:
    On 8/15/2023 10:33 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 3:19:45 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 2:26:48 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote: >>> On Tuesday, 15 August 2023 at 01:45:10 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: >>>> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 2:57:25 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 14 August 2023 at 01:48:01 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: >>>>>> On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 3:57:18 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 16:55:42 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 06:22:24 UTC+10, whodat wrote: >>>>>>>>
    its usual rubbish, avoiding the key question, how much is the floor of my garage or shed sloped to let the armature roll down the rails with the force of gravity...

    To think that such whodat-class creeps rule the world, makes the flesh crawl.

    Really!
    "The land of MIT", oh my goodness, not at all the parvenu, very good, very good.
    Like Mohicans now. Gone with the wind.
    Greed and cowardice have done them in.
    E=mcc=hv rules! There, and everywhere. Sad.
    Else they would have invited me to give lecture-demos of my rail gun experiments.
    "You don't really know any science, do you? I don't know much, myself." >>> And unwilling to learn, naturally.
    "I'm not looking to get hired, here." #hinthint

    (Tired claptrap, mountains and mountains of it.)
    Arindam gets wound up very easily. Recently he was an assistant
    men's room attendant. In those days it was all shit talk. These
    "mountains of claptrap" represent a wonderful advance on his part.

    Perhaps soon he will calm down into rationality.
    Alas, that sort of whodumbic "rationality", that is, incredible mendacity for suppression purposes,will not explain why the rail gun of my new design, with low voltage and heavy armature, works.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Tue Aug 15 14:54:50 2023
    Arindam Banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 01:52:25 UTC+10, whodat wrote:
    On 8/15/2023 10:33 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 3:19:45 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 2:26:48 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote: >> >>> On Tuesday, 15 August 2023 at 01:45:10 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 2:57:25 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 14 August 2023 at 01:48:01 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 3:57:18 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 16:55:42 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 06:22:24 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    its usual rubbish, avoiding the key question, how much is the floor of my garage or shed sloped to let the armature roll down the rails with the force of gravity...

    To think that such whodat-class creeps rule the world, makes the flesh crawl.

    Really!
    "The land of MIT", oh my goodness, not at all the parvenu, very good, very good.
    Like Mohicans now. Gone with the wind.
    Greed and cowardice have done them in.
    E=mcc=hv rules! There, and everywhere. Sad.
    Else they would have invited me to give lecture-demos of my rail gun experiments.
    "You don't really know any science, do you? I don't know much, myself." >> >>> And unwilling to learn, naturally.
    "I'm not looking to get hired, here." #hinthint

    (Tired claptrap, mountains and mountains of it.)
    Arindam gets wound up very easily. Recently he was an assistant
    men's room attendant. In those days it was all shit talk. These
    "mountains of claptrap" represent a wonderful advance on his part.

    Perhaps soon he will calm down into rationality.
    Alas, that sort of whodumbic "rationality", that is, incredible mendacity for suppression purposes,will not explain why the rail gun of my new design, with low voltage and heavy armature, works.

    The US Navy spent 15 years and $500,000,000 and came to the conclusion
    that railguns are not practical.

    Maybe you should send them a proposal for your wonderous invention.

    Of course, they will want to see a working railgun and a full analysis...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Jim Pennino on Tue Aug 15 16:06:31 2023
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 08:01:12 UTC+10, Jim Pennino wrote:
    Arindam Banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 01:52:25 UTC+10, whodat wrote:
    On 8/15/2023 10:33 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 3:19:45 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: >> >> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 2:26:48 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 15 August 2023 at 01:45:10 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: >> >>>> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 2:57:25 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 14 August 2023 at 01:48:01 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: >> >>>>>> On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 3:57:18 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 16:55:42 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 06:22:24 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    its usual rubbish, avoiding the key question, how much is the floor of my garage or shed sloped to let the armature roll down the rails with the force of gravity...

    To think that such whodat-class creeps rule the world, makes the flesh crawl.

    Really!
    "The land of MIT", oh my goodness, not at all the parvenu, very good, very good.
    Like Mohicans now. Gone with the wind.
    Greed and cowardice have done them in.
    E=mcc=hv rules! There, and everywhere. Sad.
    Else they would have invited me to give lecture-demos of my rail gun experiments.
    "You don't really know any science, do you? I don't know much, myself."
    And unwilling to learn, naturally.
    "I'm not looking to get hired, here." #hinthint

    (Tired claptrap, mountains and mountains of it.)
    Arindam gets wound up very easily. Recently he was an assistant
    men's room attendant. In those days it was all shit talk. These
    "mountains of claptrap" represent a wonderful advance on his part.

    Perhaps soon he will calm down into rationality.
    Alas, that sort of whodumbic "rationality", that is, incredible mendacity for suppression purposes,will not explain why the rail gun of my new design, with low voltage and heavy armature, works.
    The US Navy spent 15 years and $500,000,000 and came to the conclusion
    that railguns are not practical.
    God bless the USNavy, and Lt. Schroder of the US Navy whose work on rail gun recoil was the basis for my failed PhD.
    Their design was based on conventional artillery. Mine is not.

    Maybe you should send them a proposal for your wonderous invention.
    Good idea. Think I owe them that. As things are, I am more interested in revising the basics of physics for better morality and technology.


    Of course, they will want to see a working railgun and a full analysis...
    For which they only need to see my 2017 and 2022 videos available on youtube.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Tue Aug 15 16:32:22 2023
    Arindam Banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 08:01:12 UTC+10, Jim Pennino wrote:
    Arindam Banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 01:52:25 UTC+10, whodat wrote:
    On 8/15/2023 10:33 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 3:19:45 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: >> >> >> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 2:26:48 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 15 August 2023 at 01:45:10 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: >> >> >>>> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 2:57:25 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 14 August 2023 at 01:48:01 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: >> >> >>>>>> On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 3:57:18 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 16:55:42 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 06:22:24 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    its usual rubbish, avoiding the key question, how much is the floor of my garage or shed sloped to let the armature roll down the rails with the force of gravity...

    To think that such whodat-class creeps rule the world, makes the flesh crawl.

    Really!
    "The land of MIT", oh my goodness, not at all the parvenu, very good, very good.
    Like Mohicans now. Gone with the wind.
    Greed and cowardice have done them in.
    E=mcc=hv rules! There, and everywhere. Sad.
    Else they would have invited me to give lecture-demos of my rail gun experiments.
    "You don't really know any science, do you? I don't know much, myself."
    And unwilling to learn, naturally.
    "I'm not looking to get hired, here." #hinthint

    (Tired claptrap, mountains and mountains of it.)
    Arindam gets wound up very easily. Recently he was an assistant
    men's room attendant. In those days it was all shit talk. These
    "mountains of claptrap" represent a wonderful advance on his part.

    Perhaps soon he will calm down into rationality.
    Alas, that sort of whodumbic "rationality", that is, incredible mendacity for suppression purposes,will not explain why the rail gun of my new design, with low voltage and heavy armature, works.
    The US Navy spent 15 years and $500,000,000 and came to the conclusion
    that railguns are not practical.
    God bless the USNavy, and Lt. Schroder of the US Navy whose work on rail gun recoil was the basis for my failed PhD.
    Their design was based on conventional artillery. Mine is not.

    Maybe you should send them a proposal for your wonderous invention.
    Good idea. Think I owe them that. As things are, I am more interested in revising the basics of physics for better morality and technology.


    Of course, they will want to see a working railgun and a full analysis...
    For which they only need to see my 2017 and 2022 videos available on youtube.

    Like I said, a WORKING railgun and a FULL analysis with data readings,
    graphs, equations, etc., NOT some half assed video with no analysis.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Jim Pennino on Tue Aug 15 21:34:22 2023
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 09:46:09 UTC+10, Jim Pennino wrote:
    Arindam Banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 08:01:12 UTC+10, Jim Pennino wrote:
    Arindam Banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 01:52:25 UTC+10, whodat wrote:
    On 8/15/2023 10:33 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 3:19:45 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 2:26:48 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 15 August 2023 at 01:45:10 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 2:57:25 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 14 August 2023 at 01:48:01 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 3:57:18 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 16:55:42 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 06:22:24 UTC+10, whodat wrote: >> >> >>>>>>>>
    its usual rubbish, avoiding the key question, how much is the floor of my garage or shed sloped to let the armature roll down the rails with the force of gravity...

    To think that such whodat-class creeps rule the world, makes the flesh crawl.

    Really!
    "The land of MIT", oh my goodness, not at all the parvenu, very good, very good.
    Like Mohicans now. Gone with the wind.
    Greed and cowardice have done them in.
    E=mcc=hv rules! There, and everywhere. Sad.
    Else they would have invited me to give lecture-demos of my rail gun experiments.
    "You don't really know any science, do you? I don't know much, myself."
    And unwilling to learn, naturally.
    "I'm not looking to get hired, here." #hinthint

    (Tired claptrap, mountains and mountains of it.)
    Arindam gets wound up very easily. Recently he was an assistant
    men's room attendant. In those days it was all shit talk. These
    "mountains of claptrap" represent a wonderful advance on his part.

    Perhaps soon he will calm down into rationality.
    Alas, that sort of whodumbic "rationality", that is, incredible mendacity for suppression purposes,will not explain why the rail gun of my new design, with low voltage and heavy armature, works.
    The US Navy spent 15 years and $500,000,000 and came to the conclusion
    that railguns are not practical.

    Heh-heh, given half that sum I would have made not only a rail gun firing heavy missiles that would reach hypersonic speeds, but a ship to the Moon with my internal force engines.
    But what to say, the whodumbos rule!

    God bless the USNavy, and Lt. Schroder of the US Navy whose work on rail gun recoil was the basis for my failed PhD.
    Their design was based on conventional artillery. Mine is not.

    Maybe you should send them a proposal for your wonderous invention.
    Good idea. Think I owe them that. As things are, I am more interested in revising the basics of physics for better morality and technology.


    Of course, they will want to see a working railgun and a full analysis...
    For which they only need to see my 2017 and 2022 videos available on youtube.
    Like I said, a WORKING railgun and a FULL analysis with data readings, graphs, equations, etc., NOT some half assed video with no analysis.

    Those videos are not for fools.
    Understanding those videos calls for far superior intelligence, breadth of view, and knowledge than what I have found in Usenet.
    Very very few in the viewing public may meet that criteria. But I have no doubt that a brilliant person with some knowledge of calculas and electrical engineering will understand, if that person has an open mind.
    My scientific works presented in a new and original medium (incontrovertible video with explanations) are for trained and established professionals, successful in their own disciplines, for further development; not for those who call themselves
    physicists, among whom some may pretend to be engineers.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Wed Aug 16 07:28:46 2023
    Arindam Banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 09:46:09 UTC+10, Jim Pennino wrote:
    Arindam Banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 08:01:12 UTC+10, Jim Pennino wrote:
    Arindam Banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 01:52:25 UTC+10, whodat wrote:
    On 8/15/2023 10:33 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 3:19:45 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 2:26:48 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 15 August 2023 at 01:45:10 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 2:57:25 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 14 August 2023 at 01:48:01 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 3:57:18 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 16:55:42 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 06:22:24 UTC+10, whodat wrote: >> >> >> >>>>>>>>
    its usual rubbish, avoiding the key question, how much is the floor of my garage or shed sloped to let the armature roll down the rails with the force of gravity...

    To think that such whodat-class creeps rule the world, makes the flesh crawl.

    Really!
    "The land of MIT", oh my goodness, not at all the parvenu, very good, very good.
    Like Mohicans now. Gone with the wind.
    Greed and cowardice have done them in.
    E=mcc=hv rules! There, and everywhere. Sad.
    Else they would have invited me to give lecture-demos of my rail gun experiments.
    "You don't really know any science, do you? I don't know much, myself."
    And unwilling to learn, naturally.
    "I'm not looking to get hired, here." #hinthint

    (Tired claptrap, mountains and mountains of it.)
    Arindam gets wound up very easily. Recently he was an assistant
    men's room attendant. In those days it was all shit talk. These
    "mountains of claptrap" represent a wonderful advance on his part.

    Perhaps soon he will calm down into rationality.
    Alas, that sort of whodumbic "rationality", that is, incredible mendacity for suppression purposes,will not explain why the rail gun of my new design, with low voltage and heavy armature, works.
    The US Navy spent 15 years and $500,000,000 and came to the conclusion
    that railguns are not practical.

    Heh-heh, given half that sum I would have made not only a rail gun firing heavy missiles that would reach hypersonic speeds, but a ship to the Moon with my internal force engines.
    But what to say, the whodumbos rule!

    God bless the USNavy, and Lt. Schroder of the US Navy whose work on rail gun recoil was the basis for my failed PhD.
    Their design was based on conventional artillery. Mine is not.

    Maybe you should send them a proposal for your wonderous invention.
    Good idea. Think I owe them that. As things are, I am more interested in revising the basics of physics for better morality and technology.


    Of course, they will want to see a working railgun and a full analysis... >> > For which they only need to see my 2017 and 2022 videos available on youtube.
    Like I said, a WORKING railgun and a FULL analysis with data readings,
    graphs, equations, etc., NOT some half assed video with no analysis.

    Those videos are not for fools.
    Understanding those videos calls for far superior intelligence, breadth of view, and knowledge than what I have found in Usenet.
    Very very few in the viewing public may meet that criteria. But I have no doubt that a brilliant person with some knowledge of calculas and electrical engineering will understand, if that person has an open mind.
    My scientific works presented in a new and original medium (incontrovertible video with explanations) are for trained and established professionals, successful in their own disciplines, for further development; not for those who call themselves
    physicists, among whom some may pretend to be engineers.

    Your videos do not stand up to the demands of a 5th grade science
    report, much less what is required for real science.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Jim Pennino on Wed Aug 16 12:16:44 2023
    On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 7:31:10 AM UTC-7, Jim Pennino wrote:
    Arindam Banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 09:46:09 UTC+10, Jim Pennino wrote:
    Arindam Banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 08:01:12 UTC+10, Jim Pennino wrote:
    Arindam Banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 01:52:25 UTC+10, whodat wrote:
    On 8/15/2023 10:33 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 3:19:45 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 2:26:48 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 15 August 2023 at 01:45:10 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 2:57:25 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 14 August 2023 at 01:48:01 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 3:57:18 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 16:55:42 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 06:22:24 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    its usual rubbish, avoiding the key question, how much is the floor of my garage or shed sloped to let the armature roll down the rails with the force of gravity...

    To think that such whodat-class creeps rule the world, makes the flesh crawl.

    Really!
    "The land of MIT", oh my goodness, not at all the parvenu, very good, very good.
    Like Mohicans now. Gone with the wind.
    Greed and cowardice have done them in.
    E=mcc=hv rules! There, and everywhere. Sad.
    Else they would have invited me to give lecture-demos of my rail gun experiments.
    "You don't really know any science, do you? I don't know much, myself."
    And unwilling to learn, naturally.
    "I'm not looking to get hired, here." #hinthint

    (Tired claptrap, mountains and mountains of it.)
    Arindam gets wound up very easily. Recently he was an assistant
    men's room attendant. In those days it was all shit talk. These
    "mountains of claptrap" represent a wonderful advance on his part. >> >> >>
    Perhaps soon he will calm down into rationality.
    Alas, that sort of whodumbic "rationality", that is, incredible mendacity for suppression purposes,will not explain why the rail gun of my new design, with low voltage and heavy armature, works.
    The US Navy spent 15 years and $500,000,000 and came to the conclusion >> >> that railguns are not practical.

    Heh-heh, given half that sum I would have made not only a rail gun firing heavy missiles that would reach hypersonic speeds, but a ship to the Moon with my internal force engines.
    But what to say, the whodumbos rule!

    God bless the USNavy, and Lt. Schroder of the US Navy whose work on rail gun recoil was the basis for my failed PhD.
    Their design was based on conventional artillery. Mine is not.

    Maybe you should send them a proposal for your wonderous invention.
    Good idea. Think I owe them that. As things are, I am more interested in revising the basics of physics for better morality and technology.


    Of course, they will want to see a working railgun and a full analysis...
    For which they only need to see my 2017 and 2022 videos available on youtube.
    Like I said, a WORKING railgun and a FULL analysis with data readings,
    graphs, equations, etc., NOT some half assed video with no analysis.

    Those videos are not for fools.
    Understanding those videos calls for far superior intelligence, breadth of view, and knowledge than what I have found in Usenet.
    Very very few in the viewing public may meet that criteria. But I have no doubt that a brilliant person with some knowledge of calculas and electrical engineering will understand, if that person has an open mind.
    My scientific works presented in a new and original medium (incontrovertible video with explanations) are for trained and established professionals, successful in their own disciplines, for further development; not for those who call themselves
    physicists, among whom some may pretend to be engineers.
    Your videos do not stand up to the demands of a 5th grade science
    report, much less what is required for real science.

    "False agreement"? I don't remember what this is called.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Jim Pennino on Wed Aug 16 14:05:55 2023
    On Thursday, 17 August 2023 at 00:31:10 UTC+10, Jim Pennino wrote:
    Arindam Banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 09:46:09 UTC+10, Jim Pennino wrote:
    Arindam Banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 08:01:12 UTC+10, Jim Pennino wrote:
    Arindam Banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 01:52:25 UTC+10, whodat wrote:
    On 8/15/2023 10:33 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 3:19:45 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 2:26:48 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 15 August 2023 at 01:45:10 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 2:57:25 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 14 August 2023 at 01:48:01 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 3:57:18 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 16:55:42 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 06:22:24 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    its usual rubbish, avoiding the key question, how much is the floor of my garage or shed sloped to let the armature roll down the rails with the force of gravity...

    To think that such whodat-class creeps rule the world, makes the flesh crawl.

    Really!
    "The land of MIT", oh my goodness, not at all the parvenu, very good, very good.
    Like Mohicans now. Gone with the wind.
    Greed and cowardice have done them in.
    E=mcc=hv rules! There, and everywhere. Sad.
    Else they would have invited me to give lecture-demos of my rail gun experiments.
    "You don't really know any science, do you? I don't know much, myself."
    And unwilling to learn, naturally.
    "I'm not looking to get hired, here." #hinthint

    (Tired claptrap, mountains and mountains of it.)
    Arindam gets wound up very easily. Recently he was an assistant
    men's room attendant. In those days it was all shit talk. These
    "mountains of claptrap" represent a wonderful advance on his part. >> >> >>
    Perhaps soon he will calm down into rationality.
    Alas, that sort of whodumbic "rationality", that is, incredible mendacity for suppression purposes,will not explain why the rail gun of my new design, with low voltage and heavy armature, works.
    The US Navy spent 15 years and $500,000,000 and came to the conclusion >> >> that railguns are not practical.

    Heh-heh, given half that sum I would have made not only a rail gun firing heavy missiles that would reach hypersonic speeds, but a ship to the Moon with my internal force engines.
    But what to say, the whodumbos rule!

    God bless the USNavy, and Lt. Schroder of the US Navy whose work on rail gun recoil was the basis for my failed PhD.
    Their design was based on conventional artillery. Mine is not.

    Maybe you should send them a proposal for your wonderous invention.
    Good idea. Think I owe them that. As things are, I am more interested in revising the basics of physics for better morality and technology.


    Of course, they will want to see a working railgun and a full analysis...
    For which they only need to see my 2017 and 2022 videos available on youtube.
    Like I said, a WORKING railgun and a FULL analysis with data readings,
    graphs, equations, etc., NOT some half assed video with no analysis.

    Those videos are not for fools.
    Understanding those videos calls for far superior intelligence, breadth of view, and knowledge than what I have found in Usenet.
    Very very few in the viewing public may meet that criteria. But I have no doubt that a brilliant person with some knowledge of calculas and electrical engineering will understand, if that person has an open mind.
    My scientific works presented in a new and original medium (incontrovertible video with explanations) are for trained and established professionals, successful in their own disciplines, for further development; not for those who call themselves
    physicists, among whom some may pretend to be engineers.
    Your videos do not stand up to the demands of a 5th grade science
    report, much less what is required for real science.
    You have less clue of science than any middle school student should have.
    So, you are just noise.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Rubard on Wed Aug 16 14:48:33 2023
    On Thursday, 17 August 2023 at 05:16:50 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 7:31:10 AM UTC-7, Jim Pennino wrote:
    Arindam Banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 09:46:09 UTC+10, Jim Pennino wrote:
    Arindam Banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 08:01:12 UTC+10, Jim Pennino wrote: >> >> Arindam Banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesdays accepted by law courts., 16 August 2023 at 01:52:25 UTC+10, whodat wrote:
    On 8/15/2023 10:33 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 3:19:45 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 2:26:48 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 15 August 2023 at 01:45:10 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 2:57:25 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 14 August 2023 at 01:48:01 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 3:57:18 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 16:55:42 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 06:22:24 UTC+10, whodat wrote:

    its usual rubbish, avoiding the key question, how much is the floor of my garage or shed sloped to let the armature roll down the rails with the force of gravity...

    To think that such whodat-class creeps rule the world, makes the flesh crawl.

    Really!
    "The land of MIT", oh my goodness, not at all the parvenu, very good, very good.
    Like Mohicans now. Gone with the wind.
    Greed and cowardice have done them in.
    E=mcc=hv rules! There, and everywhere. Sad.
    Else they would have invited me to give lecture-demos of my rail gun experiments.
    "You don't really know any science, do you? I don't know much, myself."
    And unwilling to learn, naturally.
    "I'm not looking to get hired, here." #hinthint

    (Tired claptrap, mountains and mountains of it.)
    Arindam gets wound up very easily. Recently he was an assistant >> >> >> men's room attendant. In those days it was all shit talk. These >> >> >> "mountains of claptrap" represent a wonderful advance on his part.

    Perhaps soon he will calm down into rationality.
    Alas, that sort of whodumbic "rationality", that is, incredible mendacity for suppression purposes,will not explain why the rail gun of my new design, with low voltage and heavy armature, works.
    The US Navy spent 15 years and $500,000,000 and came to the conclusion
    that railguns are not practical.

    Heh-heh, given half that sum I would have made not only a rail gun firing heavy missiles that would reach hypersonic speeds, but a ship to the Moon with my internal force engines.
    But what to say, the whodumbos rule!

    God bless the USNavy, and Lt. Schroder of the US Navy whose work on rail gun recoil was the basis for my failed PhD.
    Their design was based on conventional artillery. Mine is not.

    Maybe you should send them a proposal for your wonderous invention. >> > Good idea. Think I owe them that. As things are, I am more interested in revising the basics of physics for better morality and technology.


    Of course, they will want to see a working railgun and a full analysis...
    For which they only need to see my 2017 and 2022 videos available on youtube.
    Like I said, a WORKING railgun and a FULL analysis with data readings, >> graphs, equations, etc., NOT some half assed video with no analysis.

    Those videos are not for fools.
    Understanding those videos calls for far superior intelligence, breadth of view, and knowledge than what I have found in Usenet.
    Very very few in the viewing public may meet that criteria. But I have no doubt that a brilliant person with some knowledge of calculas and electrical engineering will understand, if that person has an open mind.
    My scientific works presented in a new and original medium (incontrovertible video with explanations) are for trained and established professionals, successful in their own disciplines, for further development; not for those who call themselves
    physicists, among whom some may pretend to be engineers.
    Your videos do not stand up to the demands of a 5th grade science
    report, much less what is required for real science.
    "False agreement"? I don't remember what this is called.
    False people say false things. That works for the headless and thus brainless sorts.
    Video evidence is accepted by law courts.
    Final.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Volney@21:1/5 to Jim Pennino on Thu Aug 17 19:47:05 2023
    On 8/16/2023 10:28 AM, Jim Pennino wrote:
    Arindam Banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 09:46:09 UTC+10, Jim Pennino wrote:
    Arindam Banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 08:01:12 UTC+10, Jim Pennino wrote:
    Arindam Banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 01:52:25 UTC+10, whodat wrote:
    On 8/15/2023 10:33 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 3:19:45 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 2:26:48 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 15 August 2023 at 01:45:10 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 2:57:25 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 14 August 2023 at 01:48:01 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 3:57:18 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 16:55:42 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 06:22:24 UTC+10, whodat wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    its usual rubbish, avoiding the key question, how much is the floor of my garage or shed sloped to let the armature roll down the rails with the force of gravity...

    To think that such whodat-class creeps rule the world, makes the flesh crawl.

    Really!
    "The land of MIT", oh my goodness, not at all the parvenu, very good, very good.
    Like Mohicans now. Gone with the wind.
    Greed and cowardice have done them in.
    E=mcc=hv rules! There, and everywhere. Sad.
    Else they would have invited me to give lecture-demos of my rail gun experiments.
    "You don't really know any science, do you? I don't know much, myself."
    And unwilling to learn, naturally.
    "I'm not looking to get hired, here." #hinthint

    (Tired claptrap, mountains and mountains of it.)
    Arindam gets wound up very easily. Recently he was an assistant
    men's room attendant. In those days it was all shit talk. These
    "mountains of claptrap" represent a wonderful advance on his part. >>>>>>>
    Perhaps soon he will calm down into rationality.
    Alas, that sort of whodumbic "rationality", that is, incredible mendacity for suppression purposes,will not explain why the rail gun of my new design, with low voltage and heavy armature, works.
    The US Navy spent 15 years and $500,000,000 and came to the conclusion >>>>> that railguns are not practical.

    Heh-heh, given half that sum I would have made not only a rail gun firing heavy missiles that would reach hypersonic speeds, but a ship to the Moon with my internal force engines.
    But what to say, the whodumbos rule!

    God bless the USNavy, and Lt. Schroder of the US Navy whose work on rail gun recoil was the basis for my failed PhD.
    Their design was based on conventional artillery. Mine is not.

    Maybe you should send them a proposal for your wonderous invention.
    Good idea. Think I owe them that. As things are, I am more interested in revising the basics of physics for better morality and technology.


    Of course, they will want to see a working railgun and a full analysis... >>>> For which they only need to see my 2017 and 2022 videos available on youtube.
    Like I said, a WORKING railgun and a FULL analysis with data readings,
    graphs, equations, etc., NOT some half assed video with no analysis.

    Those videos are not for fools.
    Understanding those videos calls for far superior intelligence, breadth of view, and knowledge than what I have found in Usenet.
    Very very few in the viewing public may meet that criteria. But I have no doubt that a brilliant person with some knowledge of calculas and electrical engineering will understand, if that person has an open mind.
    My scientific works presented in a new and original medium (incontrovertible video with explanations) are for trained and established professionals, successful in their own disciplines, for further development; not for those who call themselves
    physicists, among whom some may pretend to be engineers.

    Your videos do not stand up to the demands of a 5th grade science
    report, much less what is required for real science.

    Video (or any other) evidence in a court is not introduced in a vacuum.
    It is an item of evidence and a witness (often the maker of a video or
    an expert witness) is called to testify what the video shows under
    examination, and a cross examining lawyer can counter what the witness describes.

    (I was an alternate juror for a trial including video evidence just
    recently)

    In my opinion, if Banjo's videos were introduced in a trial, a good
    cross examining attorney would rip them to shreds, due to all the lack
    of measurements and Banjo just trying to tell the viewer what he wants
    them to believe, not believe the video itself being too vague. Of course
    I tried to tell Banjo about this, all he did was to attack me, just like
    his twin Plutonium does. (at least Banjo makes a feeble attempt at
    evidence of his claims, Pluto just says it's true just because he said so).

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Volney on Thu Aug 17 18:12:54 2023
    On Friday, 18 August 2023 at 09:49:13 UTC+10, Volney wrote:
    On 8/16/2023 10:28 AM, Jim Pennino wrote:
    Arindam Banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 09:46:09 UTC+10, Jim Pennino wrote:
    Arindam Banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 08:01:12 UTC+10, Jim Pennino wrote: >>>>> Arindam Banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 01:52:25 UTC+10, whodat wrote: >>>>>>> On 8/15/2023 10:33 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 3:19:45 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 2:26:48 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 15 August 2023 at 01:45:10 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 2:57:25 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 14 August 2023 at 01:48:01 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 3:57:18 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 16:55:42 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 06:22:24 UTC+10, whodat wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    its usual rubbish, avoiding the key question, how much is the floor of my garage or shed sloped to let the armature roll down the rails with the force of gravity...

    To think that such whodat-class creeps rule the world, makes the flesh crawl.

    Really!
    "The land of MIT", oh my goodness, not at all the parvenu, very good, very good.
    Like Mohicans now. Gone with the wind.
    Greed and cowardice have done them in.
    E=mcc=hv rules! There, and everywhere. Sad.
    Else they would have invited me to give lecture-demos of my rail gun experiments.
    "You don't really know any science, do you? I don't know much, myself."
    And unwilling to learn, naturally.
    "I'm not looking to get hired, here." #hinthint

    (Tired claptrap, mountains and mountains of it.)
    Arindam gets wound up very easily. Recently he was an assistant >>>>>>> men's room attendant. In those days it was all shit talk. These >>>>>>> "mountains of claptrap" represent a wonderful advance on his part. >>>>>>>
    Perhaps soon he will calm down into rationality.
    Alas, that sort of whodumbic "rationality", that is, incredible mendacity for suppression purposes,will not explain why the rail gun of my new design, with low voltage and heavy armature, works.
    The US Navy spent 15 years and $500,000,000 and came to the conclusion >>>>> that railguns are not practical.

    Heh-heh, given half that sum I would have made not only a rail gun firing heavy missiles that would reach hypersonic speeds, but a ship to the Moon with my internal force engines.
    But what to say, the whodumbos rule!

    God bless the USNavy, and Lt. Schroder of the US Navy whose work on rail gun recoil was the basis for my failed PhD.
    Their design was based on conventional artillery. Mine is not.

    Maybe you should send them a proposal for your wonderous invention. >>>> Good idea. Think I owe them that. As things are, I am more interested in revising the basics of physics for better morality and technology.


    Of course, they will want to see a working railgun and a full analysis...
    For which they only need to see my 2017 and 2022 videos available on youtube.
    Like I said, a WORKING railgun and a FULL analysis with data readings, >>> graphs, equations, etc., NOT some half assed video with no analysis.

    Those videos are not for fools.
    Understanding those videos calls for far superior intelligence, breadth of view, and knowledge than what I have found in Usenet.
    Very very few in the viewing public may meet that criteria. But I have no doubt that a brilliant person with some knowledge of calculas and electrical engineering will understand, if that person has an open mind.
    My scientific works presented in a new and original medium (incontrovertible video with explanations) are for trained and established professionals, successful in their own disciplines, for further development; not for those who call themselves
    physicists, among whom some may pretend to be engineers.

    Your videos do not stand up to the demands of a 5th grade science
    report, much less what is required for real science.
    Video (or any other) evidence in a court is not introduced in a vacuum.
    It is an item of evidence and a witness (often the maker of a video or
    an expert witness) is called to testify what the video shows under examination, and a cross examining lawyer can counter what the witness describes.

    Good ideas.

    Let them who are interested all come to my company (well, there is only one person there, but he is worth at least $500000000) to check out the original experiments to confirm the videos.
    They will, of course, have to undergo the proper secuity procedures of my company.
    LIke, name, address, affiliation, date, proper video inspection of them, etc. All nice and written down. Photographed.
    Videos will be there, all around.
    Press also most cordially invited.

    And more legal stuff too, as advised by possible legal and business partners.

    (Who know, how I have inclined the floor of my shed and garage to make the armature roll down by gravity!!! - attention, whodumbo
    Or how I manage to accelerate a 7 Kg mass with speed down the rails with my sole finger!!!! - attention, Moroney)

    Till then, quod videosi, videosi.
    The videos have been up from 2017, free and open to the whole world to comment upon.
    A respectful (or surly) silence is what I get, for the most part. Of late there has been one encouraging comment.

    - moronic opinions, causing side-splitting laughter, from the moron Moroney snipped -

    Cheers,
    Arindam Banerjee

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 18 12:14:09 2023
    Moscow▂▄▅█████████▅▄▃▂Beijing mushroom cloud, Xi as Putin's stooge when Russia vaporizes Beijing with its RS-28 Sarmat "Satan II", all because Xi was too dumb to realize you can never trust an insane person

    On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 9:03:40 AM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    "Putin's Stooge"
    Angel, Kibo Parry Moron-ey-Volney thinks you can bolt down a city to protect it from Russian Sarmat
    On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 11:56:20 PM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    Botfly of Math and Blowfly of Physics "Putin's stooge"
    "wasn't bolted down too tight in the first place"

    reporting in China news the beast criminals of Russia should have been tried in International Court of Justice for war crimes before vaporizing Chinese cities as Putin pushes nuclear buttons.


    Pentcho Valev spamming as China under Russian Sarmats. Does it remind Pentcho of Nero fiddling while Rome burnt???


    Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Chongqing, Tianjin, Chengdu, Hangzhou, Nanjing, Wuhan, Xi'An, Suzhou, Harbin, Shenyang, Qingdao, Zhengzhou, Dongguan, Foshan, Dalian, Jinan, Changchun, Hefei

    Shenzhen▂▄▅█████████▅▄▃▂ Xi as Putin's stooge when Russia vaporizes Shenzhen with its RS-28 Sarmat "Satan II", all because Xi was too dumb to realize you can never trust an insane person

    On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 11:56:20 PM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    Botfly of Math and Blowfly of Physics "Putin's stooge"
    "wasn't bolted down too tight in the first place"

    On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 1:16:55 AM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote:
    "Imp of Science"
    "not one single marble of commonsense in my entire brain"


    & wrote:
    _And as the Baby Xi grew up, surrounded by concubines, from the rice paddies and reeds of Outer
    Manchuria, stolen by the Naxi and Zani Dictator Putin in Moscow, Xi learned in school in chemical engineering that Taiwan was 1/28 the size of Outer Manchuria, Emperor Qing's homeland, now occupied by homeless Russians drinking vodka, as Putin bombs Ukraine. And the nascent Xi orders
    1,000 divisions to the Outer Manchuria border to regain back the stolen
    Why Putin is 2X smarter than Xi as dictators// SCIENCE COUNCIL RULES EARTH, not petty dictators
    2m views


    If Putin pushes nuclear buttons, he drags down China along with Russia into a nuclear ash waste pile, and this means Xi is a inferior junior partner to Putin. Putin will drag down Xi's China, never the reverse.

    So, one can look at the present situation on Earth and ask several logical questions about the 2 dictators of Putin's Russia and China's Xi.

    It is little wonder that both Russia and China dictators are combative towards the West. Because dictators never want to give up on power but stay in power all their life long. So they oppose the West because the West has grown up to democracy--
    let the people have power, not one single idiot having power all his life time.

    5 > Naturally, Putin will want to keep the Russian people suppressed and have Russia be a second rate government as a dictator. Same goes for China-- they never want to give up power so the people themselves choose their leader.

    But can we find differences in Putin and Xi themselves? Well in the West we call the Chinese inscrutable-- meaning -- little logical commonsense. And is this a valid description?? Yes of course, considering that Russia had stolen the lands of
    Outer Manchuria, some 28 times larger of a land mass than is Taiwan island. Yet there is Xi, spending so much time on wanting to invade Taiwan, when it is Outer Manchuria and Vladivostok (Haishenwai) that he should be focusing attention upon. And while
    Putin is distracted with Ukraine, is the time for Xi to recapture Outer Manchuria, the Qing dynasty empire, Qing's Manchurian homeland.

    What does Xi do instead??? He focuses on Taiwan and befriends Russia. Why, at this rate, if Russia takes Inner Manchuria, we can expect Xi and the Chinese Communist Party to become even more loving of Russia for stealing more land of China.

    And there is Xi, whose China has become rich with trading with the West, yet every day, Xi foaming at the mouth in hatred of the West.

    So yes, Putin is 2X smarter as a dictator than is Xi, as if Putin has Xi in his side pocket.

    Is there some scientific explanation as to why Xi is 2X dumber than Putin?? Perhaps, in that China is densely populated and the air pollution over all of China is worse than most countries. That Xi probably has 1/2 of his brain filled with CO and
    CO2 isomers and lead, and mercury and nitrous oxide and sulfur dioxide from just living in that air polluted hellhole of Beijing. Xi studied chemistry and should know this. Whereas Putin likely detox..s every evening with breathing in pure oxygen at his
    residence and takes oxygen breathing tanks to office and work. This easily can explain the light-headed reasoning that Xi and his foreign diplomats Wang Yi display, where Putin plays them like a chess game, --- checkmate in 7 moves.

    This explains why Xi hates the West for not stealing any Chinese lands and making China rich in trade, while loving Putin for stealing Outer Manchuria, and proposing having Russia push nuclear buttons, making both Russia and China a nuclear waste
    site after ICBMs wipe China off the map.

    Xi's brain is full of air pollution toxins from the nasty Chinese air. They still build a new coal fired plant in China every day. The air in China is the worst air in the entire world.

    6 > Why Putin is 2X smarter than Xi as dictators// SCIENCE COUNCIL RULES EARTH, not petty dictators.

    Pentcho is this what happens to China when they follow the insane Putin, tag-a-long, tag-a-long and then all of a sudden--- dragged into a mushroom cloud

    Xi Haishenwai red baseball cap offered to Putin

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    Steady aim. Firing the Satellite Rifle to take down GLONASS and BeiDou//Armondikov--Feb 6, 2013 - Via PsyGremlin via PZ Myers, this is Archimedes Plutonium, my new favourite crank hat. SATELLITE LASER RIFLE--bring down GLONASS

    Sergey Lavrov what would Russia do, once it sees their GLONASS satellites falling out of the sky? Would they exit Ukraine?

    Easiest way to disable and make ICBMs obsolete is to make their navigation system obsolete.

    Easiest way to make navigation systems obsolete is to down satellites.

    Easiest way to down satellites is a Laser beam zapping for 5 seconds on a "satellite panel". And so, down falls the satellite.

    Now are the satellites coordinated in GLONASS? For if coordinated and synchronized, there is the physical possibility of "if we down one of the satellites, all of GLONASS satellites are downed".




    Armondikov
    Archimedes Plutonium | Spherical Bullshit sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/02/06/archimedes-plutonium/‎

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    Feb 6, 2013 - Via PsyGremlin via PZ Myers, this is Archimedes Plutonium, my new favourite crank hat. I was really fucking surprised to have taken this long to ...

    Nomen Nescio artwork in use:


    NATO's most reliable LASER SATELLITE RIFLE

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    [ ] Did You Catch The Hidden Message Behind Sergey Lavrov's speech at UN
    [ ] Mister Smartypants
    [ ] Darwinian Finch
    [ ] just for fun I plotted North Korean BeiDou satellite and shot it down


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    has a big LASER SATELLITE RIFLE will shoot to pieces the GLONASS
    [ ] Another boatload of BeiDou satellites felled



    Nomen Nescio, artist for Usenet sci.math and sci.physics, three cheers to Nomen


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    [ ] THE HEART OF % Virgin
    [ ] Scientists can now quickly link to Xi's Haishenwai red ball caps in shooting down BeiDou and GLONASS
    [ ] "All for one!" "One for all!" "Every man for himself!"
    [ ] The Prize-- a date with the cheese skirt queen
    The hours are approaching rapidly and we need GLONASS either in the dark or best of all-- misfiring their missiles from Russia and striking Russian and Chinese cities. We want Kim Jong-un to see a Russian missile intended for Ukraine to level
    Pyongyang, all by a hacking into the Intel chips of GLONASS.

    The mass exodus at Twitter is that they wanted GLONASS to hack, not BeiDou.
    Jam all 24 GLONASS satellites of their Intel chips and you wipe out the ability of Russia's fleet of 6,000 ICBM missiles.

    GNS satellites orbit at a high orbit, MUCH higher than
    LEO, just not as high as geosynchronous satellites. GPS orbit is 20,200
    km, GLONASS is 19,100 km. At such heights, debris will remain essentially forever, and the satellites won't crash for centuries, if ever.
    StupidPlutonium, "GPS" receiver chipsets have long been GNSS chipsets
    that deliver what they believe to be the best data from whatever satellites they happen to see.

    molesting a countries GNSS satellites would be viewed
    as an act of war no different from attackiing a navel fleet or bombing a
    city.

    elude to a Intel chip on GLONASS 24 satellites and all that is needed is to jamm those intel chips and we have 24 malfunctioning satellites, wiping out the navigation of all 6,000 Russian ICBM.

    Skoal!!!

    Did you get a Xi red baseball cap with Haishenwai on it?


    Moscow█۞█ blackout, knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity


    Ukraine cannot win a war if it has nada, no, zero offense, it needs to knock out Russian electric lines. And the Baltic states can help.
    Knock out electricity in
    Novosibirsk
    Yekaterinburg
    Novgorod
    Samara
    Omsk
    Kazan
    Rostov-na-Donu
    Chelyabinsk
    Ufa
    Perm


    _Every Russian missile fired into Ukraine met with a drone from Ukraine knocking out Moscow electric power lines

    _Give Ukraine drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    NO ONE CAN WIN A FIGHT UNLESS THEY HAVE AN OFFENSE!!!!!!

    NO ONE CAN WIN A FIGHT UNLESS THEY HAVE AN OFFENSE!!!!!!

    NO ONE CAN WIN A FIGHT UNLESS THEY HAVE AN OFFENSE!!!!!!

    _No one can win a fight or war without any offense, West, Biden give Ukraine drones that knock out electricity inside Russia

    _End the Ukraine war by March 2023 as the Russian people depose the dictator

    _rolling electric blackouts and give Iran to Iraq-- a blooming democracy, not a stupid dictator

    _And as the Baby Xi grew up from the rice paddies and reeds of Outer Manchuria, stolen by the Naxi and Zani Dictator Putin in Moscow, Xi learned in school in chemical engineering that Taiwan was 1/28 the size of Outer Manchuria, as Putin bombs
    Ukraine. And the nascent Xi orders 1,000 divisions to the Outer Manchuria border to regain back the stolen Old China.

    _Xi has 1,000 divisions on Vladivostok border ready to swoop in and reclaim the stolen land of Outer Manchuria. See reconnaissance photo above of 1,000 divisions.

    NATO and the West has just two good options here, for Putin should have been removed in 2006 with Litvinenko poisoning. Now the insane Putin can poison the entire world with a nuclear war. Putin needed to go in 2006, for insanity just gets worse and
    worse.

    Either
    (1) give Ukraine drones to knock out electric power in Moscow and beyond Or
    (2) give Ukraine NATO membership and tell Russia to clear out in a week or NATO forces go in and clear them out.

    Of course, every day Putin and Russia needs reminding that if he presses nuclear buttons or nuclear bomb on Ukraine that Russia will be a nuclear ash pile before the day is out.

    What should have been done in 2006, unfortunately that delay to 2022. Same can be said of Hitler-- he should have been removed in the early 1930s before his insanity got going.

    & wrote:
    _And as the Baby Xi grew up from the rice paddies and reeds of Outer Manchuria, stolen by the Naxi and Zani Dictator Putin in Moscow, Xi learned in school in chemical engineering that Taiwan was 1/28 the size of Outer Manchuria, Emperor Qing's homeland, now occupied by homeless Russians drinking vodka, as Putin bombs Ukraine. And the nascent Xi orders
    1,000 divisions to the Outer Manchuria border to regain back the stolen
    Why Putin is 2X smarter than Xi as dictators// SCIENCE COUNCIL RULES EARTH, not petty dictators
    2m views


    If Putin pushes nuclear buttons, he drags down China along with Russia into a nuclear ash waste pile, and this means Xi is a inferior junior partner to Putin. Putin will drag down Xi's China, never the reverse.

    2/1, AP tards:
    Give Ukraine drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/2, AP tards:
    Give Ukraine drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/3, AP tards:
    Every Russian missile fired into Ukraine met with a drone from Ukraine knocking out Moscow electric power lines

    Give Ukraine drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/4, AP tards:
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/9 (vacation?), AP tards:
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/9, AP tards (again):
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/10, AP tards:
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/11, AP tards:
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/12, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/12, AP tards again:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/13, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/14, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/15, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/16, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/17, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/18, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/19, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/20, AP tards:

    Electricity out Novosibirsk &Volgograd█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/22, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/23, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/24, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/25, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/26, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Volney on Fri Aug 18 13:05:24 2023
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 4:49:13 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
    On 8/16/2023 10:28 AM, Jim Pennino wrote:
    Arindam Banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 09:46:09 UTC+10, Jim Pennino wrote:
    Arindam Banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 08:01:12 UTC+10, Jim Pennino wrote: >>>>> Arindam Banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 01:52:25 UTC+10, whodat wrote: >>>>>>> On 8/15/2023 10:33 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 3:19:45 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 2:26:48 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 15 August 2023 at 01:45:10 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 2:57:25 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 14 August 2023 at 01:48:01 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 3:57:18 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 16:55:42 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 06:22:24 UTC+10, whodat wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    its usual rubbish, avoiding the key question, how much is the floor of my garage or shed sloped to let the armature roll down the rails with the force of gravity...

    To think that such whodat-class creeps rule the world, makes the flesh crawl.

    Really!
    "The land of MIT", oh my goodness, not at all the parvenu, very good, very good.
    Like Mohicans now. Gone with the wind.
    Greed and cowardice have done them in.
    E=mcc=hv rules! There, and everywhere. Sad.
    Else they would have invited me to give lecture-demos of my rail gun experiments.
    "You don't really know any science, do you? I don't know much, myself."
    And unwilling to learn, naturally.
    "I'm not looking to get hired, here." #hinthint

    (Tired claptrap, mountains and mountains of it.)
    Arindam gets wound up very easily. Recently he was an assistant >>>>>>> men's room attendant. In those days it was all shit talk. These >>>>>>> "mountains of claptrap" represent a wonderful advance on his part. >>>>>>>
    Perhaps soon he will calm down into rationality.
    Alas, that sort of whodumbic "rationality", that is, incredible mendacity for suppression purposes,will not explain why the rail gun of my new design, with low voltage and heavy armature, works.
    The US Navy spent 15 years and $500,000,000 and came to the conclusion >>>>> that railguns are not practical.

    Heh-heh, given half that sum I would have made not only a rail gun firing heavy missiles that would reach hypersonic speeds, but a ship to the Moon with my internal force engines.
    But what to say, the whodumbos rule!

    God bless the USNavy, and Lt. Schroder of the US Navy whose work on rail gun recoil was the basis for my failed PhD.
    Their design was based on conventional artillery. Mine is not.

    Maybe you should send them a proposal for your wonderous invention. >>>> Good idea. Think I owe them that. As things are, I am more interested in revising the basics of physics for better morality and technology.


    Of course, they will want to see a working railgun and a full analysis...
    For which they only need to see my 2017 and 2022 videos available on youtube.
    Like I said, a WORKING railgun and a FULL analysis with data readings, >>> graphs, equations, etc., NOT some half assed video with no analysis.

    Those videos are not for fools.
    Understanding those videos calls for far superior intelligence, breadth of view, and knowledge than what I have found in Usenet.
    Very very few in the viewing public may meet that criteria. But I have no doubt that a brilliant person with some knowledge of calculas and electrical engineering will understand, if that person has an open mind.
    My scientific works presented in a new and original medium (incontrovertible video with explanations) are for trained and established professionals, successful in their own disciplines, for further development; not for those who call themselves
    physicists, among whom some may pretend to be engineers.

    Your videos do not stand up to the demands of a 5th grade science
    report, much less what is required for real science.
    Video (or any other) evidence in a court is not introduced in a vacuum.
    It is an item of evidence and a witness (often the maker of a video or
    an expert witness) is called to testify what the video shows under examination, and a cross examining lawyer can counter what the witness describes.

    (I was an alternate juror for a trial including video evidence just recently)

    "Does that count as a violation of rules for jurors, i.e. perjury?"

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Volney@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Rubard on Fri Aug 18 17:35:37 2023
    On 8/18/2023 4:05 PM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:

    "Does that count as a violation of rules for jurors, i.e. perjury?"

    No.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 18 20:19:44 2023
    Can_Dr.Norman Jarosik,Dr.William Jones,Dr.Andrew Leifer - -Please--step into the Princeton Univ physics or chemistry lab and weigh the mass of Electrolysis Water, proving Water is H4O not H2O. AP's homegrown lab cannot do the fine tuning experiment of
    weighing a test tube of electrolyzed hydrogen and oxygen from water. If AP is correct Water is really H4O, not H2O. I am sure Princeton has a better weighing scale than 0.00001 gram.

    MitchR is a spam mill robot, never really doing science but spamming airhead questions

    +Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within

    On Monday, January 18, 2010 at 11:30:47 AM UTC-6, John Baez wrote:
    Also available at http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/week290.html

    Surely Gottingen and UCR have weighing scales better than 0.00001 gram.

    Surely Durban Univ. has excellent weighing scales.


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    +Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within

    3m views Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium


    Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within the accuracy I need for weighing a test tube of oxygen then a test tube of hydrogen from water electrolysis.


    Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium

    In Old Chemistry and Old Physics, their subatomic particles were do nothing and no function and no job particles that sit around as balls or whiz around the outside of balls doing nothing but pointless circling.

    In New Physics and New Chemistry-- All is Atom and Atoms are nothing but electricity and magnetism. Every subatomic particle has a job a function a purpose as to the Laws of Electromagnetism--- Faraday law, Coulomb law, Ampere law, Capacitor law.

    A proton is a torus of 840MeV with 840 windings, while the muon is the true electron of Atoms and is encased inside the proton torus thrusting through and producing electricity-- magnetic monopoles.

    The neutron of Atoms is a parallel plate capacitor storing the electricity of proton+muon and is skin cover on the outside of the proton torus in the form of parallel plates.

    Can hydrogen be a Atom if it is just a proton+muon? No, all atoms require to have a capacitor such as at least one neutron. Thus the Hydrogen Atom is H2 where you have 2 proton+muon where 1 of the 2 proton+muon acts like a neutron to the other
    proton+muon. Thus, water molecule is not H2O but rather is H4O.

    AP is waiting for experimental chemists and physicists to prove him correct that Water is H4O.

    In the meantime we have Hydroxyl which in Old Chemistry, especially Biology is OH, while AP says that is wrong and that is really H2O.

    Now glycerine is a hydroxyl with formula C3H8O3. And what I am thinking at this moment, is that hydroxyls will be an easier proof that Water is truly H4O, rather than wait for experimentalists to actually "weigh the electrolysis test tubes of
    oxygen and hydrogen".

    You see, with H4O as water, glycerine is C3(2 waters)O with an extra oxygen. If Water is H2O then glycerine is C3(4 waters) deficit O. It is missing an oxygen if water is H2O.

    The reason glycerine is so effective as a skin ointment is because it has glycerine, the extra O oxygen. If water were H2O, then glycerine would be a missing oxygen and not a skin lotion that works, but makes skin even more dry.

    Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium

    Archimedes Plutonium<[email protected]>
    12:24 AM (13 hours ago)



    to Plutonium Atom Universe

    --- quoting in part from source-- Study.com ---
    Perhaps there is only two Faraday laws on Electrolysis. I am looking at the one that states: Faraday's first law of electrolysis relates the mass of a substance liberated (or deposited) at an electrode to the electric charge used (Q). A
    proportionality constant Z can be used:

    m = ZQ = (E/96485)(Q)

    m = mass, Q = total charge rewritten as Q = I*t amperes x time in seconds.

    This website gives an example: 5amps passed through molten Sodium Chloride for 3 hours. Calculate the mass of Sodium. E=23/1.

    m = (23/96485) (5) (3*60*60) approx 12.87 grams.

    --- end quoting in part from source-- Study.com ---

    Now has such a experiment been performed on Water to see how much atomic mass of hydrogen and of oxygen results??? If AP is correct, the formula of water is H4O, if Old Physics, Old Chemistry is correct the formula is H2O. So which is it???

    AP


    No, sorry no, Faraday's Law of Electrolysis is not going to tell the correct mass of hydrogen.

    Reading Wikipedia on Faraday's Electrolysis law.

    --- quoting Wikipedia ---
    A monovalent ion requires 1 electron for discharge, a divalent ion requires 2 electrons for discharge and so on. Thus, if x electrons flow,
    x/v atoms are discharged.

    So the mass m discharged is

    m= (xM)/vN_A) = (QM)/(eN_A *v) = (QM) / (vF)
    where
    N_A is the Avogadro constant;
    Q = xe is the total charge, equal to the number of electrons (x) times the elementary charge e;
    F is the Faraday constant.
    --- end quoting Wikipedia ---

    No, the Faraday law of Electrolysis will not work on water with a correct answer, because H is not an atom but H2 is an Atom. And where one of the proton+muon converts to being a neutron to the other proton+muon.

    So if Faraday's law of Electrolysis was applied to water, thinking it would deliver a true answer is mistaken because the one H converts to neutron.

    So it appears that we need to directly measure the test tube of oxygen and the test tube of hydrogen by a direct mass measurement.
    AP
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    1:14 AM (12 hours ago)



    to Plutonium Atom Universe
    I doubt we can measure a test tube of hydrogen or test tube of oxygen, too small to determine the mass on some sort of weight scale.

    But here is a possible lucrative idea. We should be able to get pure deuterium water. Then run the electrolysis. Collect the test tubes.

    Now have some sort of balancing beam weight scale. Place the regular water of hydrogen test tube on one side, and place the deuterium water hydrogen test tube on other side. If they stay balanced, then AP is correct and Water is really H4O.
    AP
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    1:48 AM (11 hours ago)



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    Cosmic Rays from Sun

    90% of Sun's cosmic rays are 840MeV proton+muon inside = H. The hydrogen Atom is H2 where one of the H proton+muon converts to being a neutron.

    When these proton+muon hit Earth atmosphere, they can turn into pions and muons.

    I commented that H alone is a subatomic particle and that makes sense in the idea that Sun's cosmic rays are 90% these proton+muon.

    Now is interstellar hydrogen H2 and intergalactic hydrogen H2 formed when one H cosmic ray joins up with another H cosmic ray to form H2 atom?

    Is this how we get H2 in outer space? From the splitting apart of H2 into H cosmic rays?

    So how much of the Sun's hydrogen is H2 and how much is H ready to join with another H and reform back into H2. Probably little of the Sun's H is H alone, and the vast majority of the Sun's hydrogen is H2.

    How much deuterium in the Sun? And it is a higher percentage than the deuterium in water on Earth?
    AP
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    Water is the only known non-metallic substance that expands when if freezes; its density decreases and it expands approximately 9% by volume. (Source: web Lunar and Planetary Institute)

    I have to wait for experimental chemists and physicists to weigh the mass of test tubes from electrolysis, as to the verdict-- water is H4O.

    But until that news comes in, I will look for other means of proof.

    So AP says that the H2 is not a molecule but is the hydrogen Atom itself, where one proton+muon converts to a neutron and capacitates the other proton+muon which undergo the Faraday law.

    There are subatomic particles of H in the form of Cosmic Rays from the Sun, but most of the Sun's hydrogen is H2, and flips back and forth from H to rejoining to form H2. Some gets away from the Sun and is cosmic rays.

    But H2 is an Atom and H is a fleeting subatomic particle.

    So can I prove Water is H4O from the data of Spectral lines of H2 is the same as deuterium, only slight difference is that the deuterium is a full fledged neutron not a makeshift proton+muon of H.

    I suspect that special trait of water freezing is a proof that Water is H4O. Because the 840MeV proton torus with muon inside doing the Faraday law acting as a makeshift neutron capacitor for the other 840MeV proton torus with muon inside, is where
    H2 gets that expansion characteristic.

    A neutron is a parallel plate capacitor and those plates can expand when frozen temperature occurs. As the temperature gets colder, those plates move further apart.

    Now does deuterium which truly has a full neutron, does it expand also when frozen?? If so, does it expand as much as H2 which is 2 protons with 2 muons inside?

    So comparing the freezing and expansion of the parallel plates of a neutron in deuterium with the freezing and expansion of one of the proton+muon that is acting as a makeshift neutron in H2.

    If I can numbers correlate the H2 expansion with the Deuterium expansion would be a alternative proof that Water is really H4O and not H2O.

    AP
    to
    So now on Blankenship's book "Molecular Mechanisms of Photosynthesis", 2014, page 134, shows The structure of ATP, ADP, AMP. And within that structure are OH hydroxyls.

    In New Chemistry, water is truly H4O, and where hydroxyls are now H2O. And we have first proof of this in the Figure 8.1 of Blankenship's "Chemical structure of ATP".

    For in the lower left corner of the diagram, Blankenship has a H+ all alone, (really a mindless error) and has P surrounded by O-, O-, O and OH. The OH is really H2O for hydroxyls are H2O and water itself is H4O, and that would leave that mindless
    H+ as being hydrogen Atom of H2.

    The world of physics and chemistry should drop what they are doing and weigh the electrolysis test tube of hydrogen and oxygen to discover the correct true formula of water is H4O.

    AP is total confident, becuase an Atom cannot exist if it has no capacitor structure such as a neutron, or one of the H in H2 acting as a neutron. I am totally confident that Water formula is truly H4O. And I need look only to methane of H4C, to
    realize that there is no HC, no H2C, no H3C, but starts with H4C, and that tells me water starts with H4O. Totally confident that Old Chemistry, Old Physics did electrolysis experiments and the moment they saw hydrogen test tube be 2x volume of oxygen
    test tube, they dropped their work and went out for a Danish and coffee break, rather than finish their work--- actual physics weighing of atomic mass units (not the Faraday electrolysis law for it does not apply to water).

    When water electrolysis is physics weighed, AP is confident that there are 4H per every one oxygen O. And that Water is truly H4O.

    AP, King of Science
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    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 8:56:57 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within the accuracy I need for weighing a test tube of oxygen then a test tube of hydrogen from water electrolysis.

    Now modern day physics and chemist experimenters can really do a marvelous job if they wanted to. For they could freeze the test tubes of oxygen and hydrogen to where they are liquid and compare liquids from water electrolysis.
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    So, what AP is saying here is that we do electrolysis of water. We collect the two test tubes, one with oxygen the other with hydrogen.

    To prove Water is truly the formula H4O and not H2O we must weigh the masses of the two tubes to find that the ratio is 1 x 16amu to 4 x 1amu.

    The silly grotesque science error of the past was to look at volumes in the two test tubes-- "Hey-- the hydrogen is twice the volume of oxygen so the formula of water is H2O".

    No, way was that science good practice. For the correct formula of water needs to be measured by mass, by atomic mass units where Oxygen is 16amu and hydrogen is 1amu.

    I suspect a balance beam scale is good enough to see the hydrogen test tube will be 1/4 as massive as the oxygen test tube. To get within precision of electronic weighing scale of 0.00001 gram we just have to make a larger test tube of electrolysis
    of water.

    AP is betting that the readings will be hydrogen test tube 1/4 the mass of oxygen test tube proving Water formula is truly H4O.

    Old Physics and Old Chemistry is betting that the mass experiment will have the hydrogen test tube be 1/8 the mass of the oxygen test tube, proving Water formula is H2O.

    AP does not have these precision equipment to conduct an at-home experiment of this nature.
    AP
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    So, once Water is found to actually be H4O, not H2O, we move on to methane, and ask the same question of its hydrogen bonds. Is Methane really that of H8C and not H4C.

    Well, looking in the literature for anomalies to methane, I come across a arXiv "Low and high-temperature anomalies in the physical properties of solid methane "The anomalous behavior of thermodynamic, spectral, plastic, elastic and some other
    properties of solid methane is discussed near 20.48K and...

    AP wonders: if they can get methane to solid form, well, I am then hopeful that the mass of the molecule can be determined. Because if methane is truly H8C, that difference of H4 in atomic mass units would be very much noticeable difference.

    Chemistry Europe--
    "The Anomalous Deuterium Isotope Effect in the NMR Spectrum of Methane...

    P Vermeeren, 2023
    "The abnormally long and weak methylidyne C-H bond.."
    "The C-H bond of the methylidyne radical, CH*, is abnormally long and weak, even longer and..."

    AP asks, are these anomalies solved if we consider methane is actually H8C and not H4C?

    AP


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    My 250th published book.

    TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY; H2 is the hydrogen Atom and water is H4O, not H2O// Chemistry

    by Archimedes Plutonium (Author) (Amazon's Kindle)

    Prologue: This textbook is 1/2 research history and 1/2 factual textbook combined as one textbook. For many of the experiments described here-in have not yet been performed, such as water is really H4O not H2O. Written in a style of history research with
    date-time markers, and fact telling. And there are no problem sets. This book is intended for 1st year college. Until I include problem sets and exercises, I leave it to the professor and instructor to provide such. And also, chemistry is hugely a
    laboratory science, even more so than physics, so a first year college student in the lab to test whether Water is really H4O and not H2O is mighty educational.

    Preface: This is my 250th book of science, and the first of my textbooks on Teaching True Chemistry. I have completed the Teaching True Physics and the Teaching True Mathematics textbook series. But had not yet started on a Teaching True Chemistry
    textbook series. What got me started on this project is the fact that no chemistry textbook had the correct formula for water which is actually H4O and not H2O. Leaving the true formula for hydroxyl groups as H2O and not OH. But none of this is possible
    in Old Chemistry, Old Physics where they had do-nothing subatomic particles that sit around and do nothing or go whizzing around the outside of balls in a nucleus, in a mindless circling. Once every subatomic particle has a job, task, function, then
    water cannot be H2O but rather H4O. And a hydrogen atom cannot be H alone but is actually H2. H2 is not a molecule of hydrogen but a full fledged Atom, a single atom of hydrogen.

    Cover Picture: Sorry for the crude sketch work but chemistry and physics students are going to have to learn to make such sketches in a minute or less. Just as they make Lewis diagrams or ball & stick diagrams. My 4-5 minute sketch-work of the Water
    molecule H4O plus the subatomic particle H, and the hydrogen atom H2. Showing how one H is a proton torus with muon inside (blue color) doing the Faraday law. Protons are toruses with many windings. Protons are the coils in Faraday law while muons are
    the bar magnets. Neutrons are the capacitors as parallel plates, the outer skin cover of atoms.

    Product details
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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Sat Aug 19 05:24:41 2023
    On 8/17/2023 8:12 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    - moronic opinions, causing side-splitting laughter, from the moron Moroney snipped -


    Vulva still active in sci.physics? God what an ass-kisser one can be to
    behave differently in different newsgroups :( Yucks.

    Seen them everywhere, Iran and USA. Type 4 autistic, petty criminals.
    You Arindam at least fall into major criminals category! You preserve
    your mettle regardless of where you may be.

    The Vulva type is perennially in need of more than one alias.



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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Aug 19 05:10:11 2023
    On Saturday, 19 August 2023 at 20:24:47 UTC+10, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/17/2023 8:12 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    - moronic opinions, causing side-splitting laughter, from the moron Moroney snipped -
    Vulva still active in sci.physics? God what an ass-kisser one can be to behave differently in different newsgroups :( Yucks.

    Looks like he paid you nothing in your crowd funding effort to bump me off, Roachie.
    Explains your petty petulance.


    Seen them everywhere, Iran and USA. Type 4 autistic, petty criminals.
    You Arindam at least fall into major criminals category!

    Forty lashes for you, Roachie.


    You preserve
    your mettle regardless of where you may be.

    The Vulva type is perennially in need of more than one alias.



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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Sat Aug 19 07:21:25 2023
    On 8/19/2023 7:10 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    Seen them everywhere, Iran and USA. Type 4 autistic, petty criminals.
    You Arindam at least fall into major criminals category!
    Forty lashes for you, Roachie.


    Hahahhaahah :-)))

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 19 08:01:51 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    My main point was, that Backus didn't to solve the whole project after
    FORTRAN was created. It is silly to think that just one man could do
    that. But he needed to do his part, which he did!

    In fact, in the last interview performed with Backus a few months before
    his death (died in 2006 I think), when asked if his "functional program"
    (NOT the functional style of programming! See *** after this text below)
    work has been successful, he answered "No." He didn't get any help in
    it, and the scope of work had inherent realities tied to it that were
    extremely difficult to handle. When asked for one example of such
    difficulties, he said one was that a functional program could do very
    difficult tasks very easily, but at the same time had great difficulty
    carrying out very simple tasks. Both would be required, of course, in a
    higher level program where you leave much more to the program itself to
    "think over" and decide.

    His explanation of why it couldn't do a simple task well was (obviously)
    that these simple tasks are indeed tied to an extremely large set of
    factors coming together to make that little task carried out correctly.
    And each of those factors, in turn, are tied to their own large sets of
    factors to be there present to begin with. So it was a divergent process
    of trying to get things done. Functional program carries out isolated
    but gigantically cumbersome and time-consuming tasks very easily, but a
    lot of simple tasks which participate in making a correct decision are
    of divergent type as explained.

    In the end, he called the success of his attempts a "mixed bag". But
    isn't any scientific endeavors' beginning steps and earlier work a
    "mixed bag"? I think, as I said many times here, that he did not get an
    iota of help from others in this regard and this was the determining
    factor for its failure. He did his part; others didn't.

    The interview was a very difficult one because Backus had always shown
    (since early 1950s - after a tumor surgery on his cranium was performed)
    some degree of nerve and brain problems, and it had gotten much worse at
    the time of the interview and had affected his way of finding words,
    accessing memories, and overall expressing himself. Even his 1960s talks
    were delivered with difficulty. Aware of all this, the interviewer did
    an excellent job of preparing for it by having all the minute facts
    written beforehand and memorized, and in front of him to assist Backus
    step by step along the way. In fact, perhaps 95 percent of the facts
    that were expressed in that interview came from the interviewer, not by
    Backus. Backus mostly smiled and said "ya, ya" etc :-) A very hard
    interview to perform right, by the master of it, Grady Booch, himself an all-time enthusiast in such developments.

    That kind of spoon feeding by Booch pissed some people off (as seen in
    the comments to it) and gave the impression Booch was preventing Backus
    from talking, but reality was that the nature of Backus's nerve problems
    was of the kind that if Booch waited a bit longer for him to respond it
    would get worse rapidly (positive feedback type), so he had to intervene
    and lead the conversation to control that unstable situation, and for
    that he needed facts, baby. A lot of facts :) Hehe :) Anyway, I
    wouldn't want to be in Booch's shoes when I watched it.

    That great man, Backus, even after going through a skull bone tumor
    treatment in his college years, kept struggling for his goals and
    constantly stayed honest and truthful about himself and others alike,
    publicly as well as privately. At the worst of times in the interview,
    when being so candid would be scandalous to others, either he'd just
    stay silent and smiled very tellingly, or Booch would quickly change the subject for him :) The latter sure didn't want Backus linger too much on
    his sadism that he had exerted on other kids in his youth, and was now revealing :-))) Hahhahhah :)

    So Backus had kept himself on-course despite all that. All 80 plus years
    of that!


    *** The "functional programming style":
    It is a totally unrelated matter to the "functional program" of Backus.
    The former is just a silly style of programming that is sometimes shown
    in some books and has no real use whatsoever. At best it suits crazy
    useless people like Relf in here.

    Let me quote one of the known masters of computer programming languages
    about "functional programming style":

    "They are intended as a mind-expanding exploration of the power of
    the functions, not as a prescription for a good programming style."
    - David Flanagan, 2011

    So it has nothing to do with the "functional program" that Backus was
    trying to create. Many were and are under the impression that when
    Backus proposed the "functional program" he meant the same functional
    style of programming that can exists in some languages. So these people
    never even understood one word of what Backus was talking about.

    I've looked in reddit and twitter to see if this misunderstanding is
    still there. It is there, like it was there anytime between 1969 and the present! Still people who talk about Backus's "functional program"
    mistake it with that silly style of programming one could out of
    curiosity deploy in JavaScript or elsewhere. Crazy, isn't it.



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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Aug 19 08:32:10 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    On 8/19/2023 8:01 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    The former is just a silly style of programming that is sometimes shown
    in some books and has no real use whatsoever. At best it suits crazy
    useless people like Relf in here.


    .. to make it boost the complexity in his programs to insane levels so
    he can then step back and masturbate with it.



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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Aug 19 13:41:01 2023
    On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 3:24:47 AM UTC-7, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/17/2023 8:12 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    - moronic opinions, causing side-splitting laughter, from the moron Moroney snipped -
    Vulva still active in sci.physics? God what an ass-kisser one can be to behave differently in different newsgroups :( Yucks.

    Seen them everywhere, Iran and USA. Type 4 autistic, petty criminals.
    You Arindam at least fall into major criminals category! You preserve
    your mettle regardless of where you may be.


    "I think people think they have BPD, sometimes."

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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Rubard on Sat Aug 19 15:24:22 2023
    On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 1:41:05 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 3:24:47 AM UTC-7, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/17/2023 8:12 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    - moronic opinions, causing side-splitting laughter, from the moron Moroney snipped -
    Vulva still active in sci.physics? God what an ass-kisser one can be to behave differently in different newsgroups :( Yucks.

    Seen them everywhere, Iran and USA. Type 4 autistic, petty criminals.
    You Arindam at least fall into major criminals category! You preserve
    your mettle regardless of where you may be.

    "I think people think they have BPD, sometimes."

    "BPD?"
    "Borderline personality disorder."

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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Sat Aug 19 22:24:16 2023
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 14:34:27 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 09:46:09 UTC+10, Jim Pennino wrote:
    Arindam Banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 08:01:12 UTC+10, Jim Pennino wrote:
    Arindam Banerjee <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 01:52:25 UTC+10, whodat wrote:
    On 8/15/2023 10:33 AM, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 3:19:45 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 2:26:48 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 15 August 2023 at 01:45:10 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 2:57:25 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 14 August 2023 at 01:48:01 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 3:57:18 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 16:55:42 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 06:22:24 UTC+10, whodat wrote: >> >> >>>>>>>>
    its usual rubbish, avoiding the key question, how much is the floor of my garage or shed sloped to let the armature roll down the rails with the force of gravity...

    To think that such whodat-class creeps rule the world, makes the flesh crawl.

    Really!
    "The land of MIT", oh my goodness, not at all the parvenu, very good, very good.
    Like Mohicans now. Gone with the wind.
    Greed and cowardice have done them in.
    E=mcc=hv rules! There, and everywhere. Sad.
    Else they would have invited me to give lecture-demos of my rail gun experiments.
    "You don't really know any science, do you? I don't know much, myself."
    And unwilling to learn, naturally.
    "I'm not looking to get hired, here." #hinthint

    (Tired claptrap, mountains and mountains of it.)
    Arindam gets wound up very easily. Recently he was an assistant
    men's room attendant. In those days it was all shit talk. These
    "mountains of claptrap" represent a wonderful advance on his part. >> >>
    Perhaps soon he will calm down into rationality.
    Alas, that sort of whodumbic "rationality", that is, incredible mendacity for suppression purposes,will not explain why the rail gun of my new design, with low voltage and heavy armature, works.
    The US Navy spent 15 years and $500,000,000 and came to the conclusion >> that railguns are not practical.
    And here in Victoria our Oremier Andrews is paying up $380000000 from taxpayer money to NOT have the Commonwealth Games here as that would cost $2000000000.
    Wow.
    Heh-heh, given half that sum I would have made not only a rail gun firing heavy missiles that would reach hypersonic speeds, but a ship to the Moon with my internal force engines.
    But what to say, the whodumbos rule!
    God bless the USNavy, and Lt. Schroder of the US Navy whose work on rail gun recoil was the basis for my failed PhD.
    Their design was based on conventional artillery. Mine is not.

    Maybe you should send them a proposal for your wonderous invention.
    Good idea. Think I owe them that. As things are, I am more interested in revising the basics of physics for better morality and technology.


    Of course, they will want to see a working railgun and a full analysis...
    For which they only need to see my 2017 and 2022 videos available on youtube.
    Like I said, a WORKING railgun and a FULL analysis with data readings, graphs, equations, etc., NOT some half assed video with no analysis.
    Those videos are not for fools.
    Understanding those videos calls for far superior intelligence, breadth of view, and knowledge than what I have found in Usenet.
    Very very few in the viewing public may meet that criteria. But I have no doubt that a brilliant person with some knowledge of calculas and electrical engineering will understand, if that person has an open mind.
    My scientific works presented in a new and original medium (incontrovertible video with explanations) are for trained and established professionals, successful in their own disciplines, for further development; not for those who call themselves
    physicists, among whom some may pretend to be engineers.

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 20 13:04:58 2023
    *Xi ready to take back lovely Qing's Manchurian Homeland from the nazi stealing Russians Vladivostok

    Pentcho Valev on Xi has 1,000 divisions on Vladivostok border ready to swoop in and reclaim the stolen land of Outer Manchuria. See Angel's reconnaissance photo above of 1,000 divisions.

    And as the Baby Xi grew up from the rice paddies and reeds of Outer Manchuria, stolen by the Naxi and Zani Dictator Putin in Moscow, Xi learned in school in chemical engineering that Taiwan was 1/28 the size of Outer Manchuria, as Putin bombs Ukraine.
    And the nascent Xi orders 1,000 divisions to the Outer Manchuria border to regain back the stolen Old China.


    1 Rock of Ages██۞██


    Kibo ParryM singing Rock of Ages██۞██Moscow rolling blackouts

    Xi on Vladivostok border with 1,000 divisions ready to take back stolen Outer Manchuria!!!!
    Putin singing Moscow Rolling Blackouts██۞██ sung by CIA, Mi6, Russian Federation choir spammers "_" from Portugal Spam Auditorium --Rock of Ages, cleft for me

    And as the Baby Xi grew up from the rice paddies and reeds of Outer Manchuria, stolen by the Naxi and Zani Dictator Putin in Moscow, Xi learned in school in chemical engineering that Taiwan was 1/28 the size of Outer Manchuria, as Putin bombs Ukraine.
    And the nascent Xi orders 1,000 divisions to the Outer Manchuria border to regain back the stolen Old China.

    Kibo Parry M still spamming sci.physics undercover with his "im sick i cry" spam
    Kibo Parry Moroney in 1997 blows his CIA cover-- to the entire world, mind you---
    Re: Archimedes Vanadium, America's most beloved poster
    In article <5nefan$i06$[email protected]> kibo greps <[email protected]> writes:


    Special guest singer Kibo Parry M, science failure turned tap dancer and singer
    Kibo ParryM singing Rock of Ages██۞██Moscow rolling blackouts Vladimir Putin, stealing Outer Manchuria....

    Rock of Ages, Vladimir Putin
    Stealing Ukraine once again


    Earle Jones, Kibo Parry M. and others pointing out why Oval versus ellipse is important for Xi in seeing Outer Manchuria was stolen from China.

    I bet Earle Jones of Stanford Univ. loves Valoid proofs as he does gummy bears in ellipsoid or ovoid.

    Singing from Rolling Black Out St.Petersburg

    Chorus: Chairman Xi, Taiwan is only 1/28 the size of Outer Manchuria, yet you let the Russian Nazi Putin steal your 1 million square kilometers of land. Send in 1,000 divisions and get your land back while Russia has an insane dictator.
    Xi invades Russia to take back Outer Manchuria with 1,000 divisions to Putin's 1 platoon.
    Not waiting for Putin to gift wrap Outer Manchuria and hand the stolen land back to China

    And where the baby Xi Jinping was nestled cuddled and tightly caressed and fed by Chairman Mao concubines in the stillness of the waters of the Amur River in the Rice Reeds and Paddies, where panda bears were playfully playing in yonder oak and
    beech and Siberian elm trees. The musical of Rock of Ages was played and sung by Chairman Mao's concubines as the rich nutritious protein syrup of fresh rice cultivated by the Ussuri and Amur Rivers flowed their bountiful water over the lush fields of
    rice and cinnamon and sugar cane. The baby Xi was given dessert of fresh mulberry and peaches and cream from the 3 Farmers visiting.

    Everytime Russia bombs Ukraine, China fells another GLONASS satellite. This makes it easier for China to regain its stolen lands of OUTER MANCHURIA which is 28 times larger than Taiwan. Taiwan can wait, it is not going anywhere, but while Russia
    has an insane dictator, China may as well recover its beautiful lands of Outer Manchuria.

    Xi masses troops on Russian border to take back Outer Manchuria. If you do not know the history, Russia stole Outer Manchuria and Vladivostok from China.

    While Putin is too busy with his personal war, Xi thinks time is ripe to get back what belongs to China in the first place. OUTER MANCHURIA and especially Vladivostok.

    Xi gives the Chinese people a Christmas gift--- Outer Manchuria-- the beloved Old China
    I am not positive we can take out GLONASS and BeiDou from ground based radio and microwaves and laser waves, even jamming.

    But I am certain that we can put a satellite in orbit that is a wrecking ramming satellite that does take out GLONASS and BeiDou. I am certain of this because several countries have robotic satellites that maintenance their fleet of satellites.
    And to this end, we need such a wrecking ball satellite immediately up there.



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    freedom fighter from the tiresome dictator

    Yea, the dictator has no power and no hot water, no heat, no electricity for his house, offices.

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 20 16:44:26 2023
    We had a decent summer of rain, at least sustainable for the plants, but now we have a El Nino. Most of the summer was La Nina. Now there is no rain in sight in the forecasts for 2 weeks. My lilac leaves are turning black.

    Between the drought and grasshoppers, my rhubarb and asparagus are just barely alive. Even though I water them.

    Can stars and Sun shine from Faraday law, not fusion predict that El Nino becomes a permanent fixture??
    At some moment in future time, there will be no more La Nina on Earth?? Does it predict that??

    AP

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Mon Aug 21 07:00:59 2023
    On 8/21/2023 6:58 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/6/2023 11:14 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    I don't know why you'd bring up energy-mass equivalence here.


    Hehe :) God these Cro-magnons.. Again!

    How absurd a statement that can be,.. "Energy-mass equivalence"!..

    Where did you get that from. Your two-bit prof in undergrad school? Mass
    is not equivalent to energy. You think you can tie in something like a feature of light and still keep the two "equivalent"? Heh. Speed of
    light is NOT a number. It is the _speed_ of _light_ first, and then only
    if you want to quantify it for your conjectures, you measure it and give
    a number to it. In all other scenarios, i.e. outside your skulls, it is
    the speed of light, not just a number.

    If one can be DERIVED from the other, this doesn't mean the two are equivalent. Jesus.

    Fucking Cro-Magnons again. Especially the "Bitches of USA" among them.

    And they keep themselves _composed_ for us too :-( Ridiculous pieces of
    shit :(

    Not once, not twice, but all along one's fucking life one has to deal
    with these morons.






    Sorry I've perhaps got other reasons as well to be pissed. (I missed the
    alarm clock! So called in. But I'll get some good work done at home
    instead of reading these crap loads of nothing.

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Sylvia Else on Mon Aug 21 06:58:28 2023
    On 8/6/2023 11:14 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    I don't know why you'd bring up energy-mass equivalence here.


    Hehe :) God these Cro-magnons.. Again!

    How absurd a statement that can be,.. "Energy-mass equivalence"!..

    Where did you get that from. Your two-bit prof in undergrad school? Mass
    is not equivalent to energy. You think you can tie in something like a
    feature of light and still keep the two "equivalent"? Heh. Speed of
    light is NOT a number. It is the _speed_ of _light_ first, and then only
    if you want to quantify it for your conjectures, you measure it and give
    a number to it. In all other scenarios, i.e. outside your skulls, it is
    the speed of light, not just a number.

    If one can be DERIVED from the other, this doesn't mean the two are
    equivalent. Jesus.

    Fucking Cro-Magnons again. Especially the "Bitches of USA" among them.

    And they keep themselves _composed_ for us too :-( Ridiculous pieces of
    shit :(

    Not once, not twice, but all along one's fucking life one has to deal
    with these morons.




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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 21 13:22:35 2023
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity


    Beijing_▂▄▅█████████▅▄▃Moscow mushroom cloud, Xi as Putin's stooge when Russia vaporizes Beijing with its RS-28 Sarmat "Satan II", all because Xi was too dumb to realize you can never trust an insane person

    On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 9:03:40 AM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    "Putin's Stooge"
    Angel, Kibo Parry Moron-ey-Volney thinks you can bolt down a city to protect it from Russian Sarmat
    On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 11:56:20 PM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    Botfly of Math and Blowfly of Physics "Putin's stooge"
    "wasn't bolted down too tight in the first place"

    reporting in China news the beast criminals of Russia should have been tried in International Court of Justice for war crimes before vaporizing Chinese cities as Putin pushes nuclear buttons.


    Pentcho Valev spamming as China under Russian Sarmats. Does it remind Pentcho of Nero fiddling while Rome burnt???


    Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Chongqing, Tianjin, Chengdu, Hangzhou, Nanjing, Wuhan, Xi'An, Suzhou, Harbin, Shenyang, Qingdao, Zhengzhou, Dongguan, Foshan, Dalian, Jinan, Changchun, Hefei

    Shenzhen▂▄▅█████████▅▄▃▂ Xi as Putin's stooge when Russia vaporizes Shenzhen with its RS-28 Sarmat "Satan II", all because Xi was too dumb to realize you can never trust an insane person

    On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 11:56:20 PM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    Botfly of Math and Blowfly of Physics "Putin's stooge"
    "wasn't bolted down too tight in the first place"

    On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 1:16:55 AM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote:
    "Imp of Science"
    "not one single marble of commonsense in my entire brain"


    & wrote:
    _And as the Baby Xi grew up, surrounded by concubines, from the rice paddies and reeds of Outer
    Manchuria, stolen by the Naxi and Zani Dictator Putin in Moscow, Xi learned in school in chemical engineering that Taiwan was 1/28 the size of Outer Manchuria, Emperor Qing's homeland, now occupied by homeless Russians drinking vodka, as Putin bombs Ukraine. And the nascent Xi orders
    1,000 divisions to the Outer Manchuria border to regain back the stolen
    Why Putin is 2X smarter than Xi as dictators// SCIENCE COUNCIL RULES EARTH, not petty dictators
    2m views


    If Putin pushes nuclear buttons, he drags down China along with Russia into a nuclear ash waste pile, and this means Xi is a inferior junior partner to Putin. Putin will drag down Xi's China, never the reverse.

    So, one can look at the present situation on Earth and ask several logical questions about the 2 dictators of Putin's Russia and China's Xi.

    It is little wonder that both Russia and China dictators are combative towards the West. Because dictators never want to give up on power but stay in power all their life long. So they oppose the West because the West has grown up to democracy--
    let the people have power, not one single idiot having power all his life time.

    5 > Naturally, Putin will want to keep the Russian people suppressed and have Russia be a second rate government as a dictator. Same goes for China-- they never want to give up power so the people themselves choose their leader.

    But can we find differences in Putin and Xi themselves? Well in the West we call the Chinese inscrutable-- meaning -- little logical commonsense. And is this a valid description?? Yes of course, considering that Russia had stolen the lands of
    Outer Manchuria, some 28 times larger of a land mass than is Taiwan island. Yet there is Xi, spending so much time on wanting to invade Taiwan, when it is Outer Manchuria and Vladivostok (Haishenwai) that he should be focusing attention upon. And while
    Putin is distracted with Ukraine, is the time for Xi to recapture Outer Manchuria, the Qing dynasty empire, Qing's Manchurian homeland.

    What does Xi do instead??? He focuses on Taiwan and befriends Russia. Why, at this rate, if Russia takes Inner Manchuria, we can expect Xi and the Chinese Communist Party to become even more loving of Russia for stealing more land of China.

    And there is Xi, whose China has become rich with trading with the West, yet every day, Xi foaming at the mouth in hatred of the West.

    So yes, Putin is 2X smarter as a dictator than is Xi, as if Putin has Xi in his side pocket.

    Is there some scientific explanation as to why Xi is 2X dumber than Putin?? Perhaps, in that China is densely populated and the air pollution over all of China is worse than most countries. That Xi probably has 1/2 of his brain filled with CO and
    CO2 isomers and lead, and mercury and nitrous oxide and sulfur dioxide from just living in that air polluted hellhole of Beijing. Xi studied chemistry and should know this. Whereas Putin likely detox..s every evening with breathing in pure oxygen at his
    residence and takes oxygen breathing tanks to office and work. This easily can explain the light-headed reasoning that Xi and his foreign diplomats Wang Yi display, where Putin plays them like a chess game, --- checkmate in 7 moves.

    This explains why Xi hates the West for not stealing any Chinese lands and making China rich in trade, while loving Putin for stealing Outer Manchuria, and proposing having Russia push nuclear buttons, making both Russia and China a nuclear waste
    site after ICBMs wipe China off the map.

    Xi's brain is full of air pollution toxins from the nasty Chinese air. They still build a new coal fired plant in China every day. The air in China is the worst air in the entire world.

    6 > Why Putin is 2X smarter than Xi as dictators// SCIENCE COUNCIL RULES EARTH, not petty dictators.

    Pentcho is this what happens to China when they follow the insane Putin, tag-a-long, tag-a-long and then all of a sudden--- dragged into a mushroom cloud

    Xi Haishenwai red baseball cap offered to Putin

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    Steady aim. Firing the Satellite Rifle to take down GLONASS and BeiDou//Armondikov--Feb 6, 2013 - Via PsyGremlin via PZ Myers, this is Archimedes Plutonium, my new favourite crank hat. SATELLITE LASER RIFLE--bring down GLONASS

    Sergey Lavrov what would Russia do, once it sees their GLONASS satellites falling out of the sky? Would they exit Ukraine?

    Easiest way to disable and make ICBMs obsolete is to make their navigation system obsolete.

    Easiest way to make navigation systems obsolete is to down satellites.

    Easiest way to down satellites is a Laser beam zapping for 5 seconds on a "satellite panel". And so, down falls the satellite.

    Now are the satellites coordinated in GLONASS? For if coordinated and synchronized, there is the physical possibility of "if we down one of the satellites, all of GLONASS satellites are downed".




    Armondikov
    Archimedes Plutonium | Spherical Bullshit sphericalbullshit.wordpress.com/2013/02/06/archimedes-plutonium/‎

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    [ ] Did You Catch The Hidden Message Behind Sergey Lavrov's speech at UN
    [ ] Mister Smartypants
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    [ ] just for fun I plotted North Korean BeiDou satellite and shot it down


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    has a big LASER SATELLITE RIFLE will shoot to pieces the GLONASS
    [ ] Another boatload of BeiDou satellites felled



    Nomen Nescio, artist for Usenet sci.math and sci.physics, three cheers to Nomen


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    [ ] THE HEART OF % Virgin
    [ ] Scientists can now quickly link to Xi's Haishenwai red ball caps in shooting down BeiDou and GLONASS
    [ ] "All for one!" "One for all!" "Every man for himself!"
    [ ] The Prize-- a date with the cheese skirt queen
    The hours are approaching rapidly and we need GLONASS either in the dark or best of all-- misfiring their missiles from Russia and striking Russian and Chinese cities. We want Kim Jong-un to see a Russian missile intended for Ukraine to level
    Pyongyang, all by a hacking into the Intel chips of GLONASS.

    The mass exodus at Twitter is that they wanted GLONASS to hack, not BeiDou.
    Jam all 24 GLONASS satellites of their Intel chips and you wipe out the ability of Russia's fleet of 6,000 ICBM missiles.

    GNS satellites orbit at a high orbit, MUCH higher than
    LEO, just not as high as geosynchronous satellites. GPS orbit is 20,200
    km, GLONASS is 19,100 km. At such heights, debris will remain essentially forever, and the satellites won't crash for centuries, if ever.
    StupidPlutonium, "GPS" receiver chipsets have long been GNSS chipsets
    that deliver what they believe to be the best data from whatever satellites they happen to see.

    molesting a countries GNSS satellites would be viewed
    as an act of war no different from attackiing a navel fleet or bombing a
    city.

    elude to a Intel chip on GLONASS 24 satellites and all that is needed is to jamm those intel chips and we have 24 malfunctioning satellites, wiping out the navigation of all 6,000 Russian ICBM.

    Skoal!!!

    Did you get a Xi red baseball cap with Haishenwai on it?


    Moscow█۞█ blackout, knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity



    Ukraine cannot win a war if it has nada, no, zero offense, it needs to knock out Russian electric lines. And the Baltic states can help.
    Knock out electricity in
    Novosibirsk
    Yekaterinburg
    Novgorod
    Samara
    Omsk
    Kazan
    Rostov-na-Donu
    Chelyabinsk
    Ufa
    Perm


    _Every Russian missile fired into Ukraine met with a drone from Ukraine knocking out Moscow electric power lines

    _Give Ukraine drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    NO ONE CAN WIN A FIGHT UNLESS THEY HAVE AN OFFENSE!!!!!!

    NO ONE CAN WIN A FIGHT UNLESS THEY HAVE AN OFFENSE!!!!!!

    NO ONE CAN WIN A FIGHT UNLESS THEY HAVE AN OFFENSE!!!!!!

    _No one can win a fight or war without any offense, West, Biden give Ukraine drones that knock out electricity inside Russia

    _End the Ukraine war by March 2023 as the Russian people depose the dictator

    _rolling electric blackouts and give Iran to Iraq-- a blooming democracy, not a stupid dictator

    _And as the Baby Xi grew up from the rice paddies and reeds of Outer Manchuria, stolen by the Naxi and Zani Dictator Putin in Moscow, Xi learned in school in chemical engineering that Taiwan was 1/28 the size of Outer Manchuria, as Putin bombs
    Ukraine. And the nascent Xi orders 1,000 divisions to the Outer Manchuria border to regain back the stolen Old China.

    _Xi has 1,000 divisions on Vladivostok border ready to swoop in and reclaim the stolen land of Outer Manchuria. See reconnaissance photo above of 1,000 divisions.

    NATO and the West has just two good options here, for Putin should have been removed in 2006 with Litvinenko poisoning. Now the insane Putin can poison the entire world with a nuclear war. Putin needed to go in 2006, for insanity just gets worse and
    worse.

    Either
    (1) give Ukraine drones to knock out electric power in Moscow and beyond Or
    (2) give Ukraine NATO membership and tell Russia to clear out in a week or NATO forces go in and clear them out.

    Of course, every day Putin and Russia needs reminding that if he presses nuclear buttons or nuclear bomb on Ukraine that Russia will be a nuclear ash pile before the day is out.

    What should have been done in 2006, unfortunately that delay to 2022. Same can be said of Hitler-- he should have been removed in the early 1930s before his insanity got going.

    & wrote:
    _And as the Baby Xi grew up from the rice paddies and reeds of Outer Manchuria, stolen by the Naxi and Zani Dictator Putin in Moscow, Xi learned in school in chemical engineering that Taiwan was 1/28 the size of Outer Manchuria, Emperor Qing's homeland, now occupied by homeless Russians drinking vodka, as Putin bombs Ukraine. And the nascent Xi orders
    1,000 divisions to the Outer Manchuria border to regain back the stolen
    Why Putin is 2X smarter than Xi as dictators// SCIENCE COUNCIL RULES EARTH, not petty dictators
    2m views


    If Putin pushes nuclear buttons, he drags down China along with Russia into a nuclear ash waste pile, and this means Xi is a inferior junior partner to Putin. Putin will drag down Xi's China, never the reverse.


    2/1, AP tards:
    Give Ukraine drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/2, AP tards:
    Give Ukraine drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/3, AP tards:
    Every Russian missile fired into Ukraine met with a drone from Ukraine knocking out Moscow electric power lines

    Give Ukraine drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/4, AP tards:
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/9 (vacation?), AP tards:
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/9, AP tards (again):
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/10, AP tards:
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/11, AP tards:
    drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/12, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/12, AP tards again:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/13, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/14, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/15, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/16, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/17, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/18, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/19, AP tards:
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/20, AP tards:

    Electricity out Novosibirsk &Volgograd█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/22, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/23, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/24, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/25, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity

    2/26, AP tards:
    Moscow electric blackout█۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█
    _drones █۞█knock out Moscow electric power lines█۞█ Moscow, St.Petersburg, Volgograd, Vladivostok no electricity


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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Mon Aug 21 15:36:44 2023
    On Monday, 21 August 2023 at 21:59:25 UTC+10, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/6/2023 11:14 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    I don't know why you'd bring up energy-mass equivalence here.


    Hehe :) God these Cro-magnons.. Again!

    How absurd a statement that can be,.. "Energy-mass equivalence"!..

    Where did you get that from. Your two-bit prof in undergrad school? Mass
    is not equivalent to energy. You think you can tie in something like a feature of light and still keep the two "equivalent"? Heh. Speed of
    light is NOT a number. It is the _speed_ of _light_ first, and then only
    if you want to quantify it for your conjectures, you measure it and give
    a number to it. In all other scenarios, i.e. outside your skulls, it is
    the speed of light, not just a number.

    ****
    If
    ****
    one can be DERIVED from the other, this doesn't mean the two are
    equivalent. Jesus.

    Fucking Cro-Magnons again. Especially the "Bitches of USA" among them.

    And they keep themselves _composed_ for us too :-( Ridiculous pieces of
    shit :(

    Not once, not twice, but all along one's fucking life one has to deal
    with these morons.
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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Aug 21 23:47:07 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    HEY! What happen to my D-Day?

    dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) was suppose to invade Poland 2
    weeks ago! wats holding him up?


    i never seen so many stupid people running a war...






    On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 22:30:30 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    I predict
    dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
    will make the month of August...D-day.


    Somewhere between August 2nd - and Aug, 7th.



    bookmark dis page.



    The Starmaker wrote:

    I heard dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...is still alive!

    It was kind of dark, so i couldn't see him well...but i recognize his
    voice..and it was definitely him,,,dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin).

    I guess he is getting ready for...D-Day!

    On Sun, 09 Jul 2023 12:28:46 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    I heard, (but i don't know if it's true)

    the Wagner guys are going to take Poland.


    Now, it's the best time to take Poland while yous have a pussy for
    President of the United States.


    The next President might not allow it.


    Everyone must always grab an ...opportunity.


    Biden will announced he will put sanctions on dat Wagner guy...cut off
    his PayPal account.


    Are Polish girls pretty????



    i wan some of dat!



    How many polish people does it take to change a light bulb?
    100, one to hold the bulb and ninety nine to spin the house.











    On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 21:05:41 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    ...and while the two bulldogs are
    fighting under the rug...

    now it's a good time for
    the little people of Russia to
    arm themselves and take Putin out.

    dat wagner guy would forgive them.

    Now is the time to stick a
    water hose down Putin's throat
    while he is already drowning.

    finish him off..



    The Starmaker wrote:

    So, Putin tells dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...
    "Don't worry, I'm dropping all treason charges and all dat other stuff". >> >>>
    Then Putin tells his friend.."KILL DAT MOTHERFUCKER!!!!"

    and his friend sez, "What about his all mercenary soldiers?"

    Putin sez, "Tell them to come in and they can all join my army."

    Then .."KILL ALL THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!"

    two bulldogs under a rug....

    who will come out..alive?

    The Starmaker wrote:

    My advise to this Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...stay aways from
    ...windows.

    The Starmaker wrote:

    if you people know anything about the mafia...
    you know Putin needs to rub out dat wagner guy, otherwise...

    EVERYBODY WILL WANT TO KNOCK OFF PUTIN!

    One of them has to die...soon.

    Which one is it going to be????

    (the wagner guy already made his move and now has the popular vote) >> >>> > >
    dis is not a game of chess..

    The Starmaker wrote:

    I heard the FBI needs your help..

    they are looking for this guy...anybody seen him around?

    https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif

    looks a liitle familiar..

    there is a reward out for him..$250,000.02

    https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif

    i tink i know where dis guy lives..

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Of course Putin is a chicken...he's got a lot more to lose than dat
    purse snatcher Wagner.

    One of those two has to...die.

    Which one are you rooting for? da gangster or da gangster?

    Why doesn't da Big Guy take them both out?

    well, we'll deal with wat ever gangster survies....

    Biden gots his own Crime Family to look after.

    Trump has to go after all the Crime Families in Washington!

    (luckly Trump has Rudy Giuliani to consult him...Rudy is an expert on
    Crime Families!)

    It's Kill or be Killed.

    You wanna make an omelete you gotta break some eggs.

    As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster. ...

    The Starmaker wrote:

    This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is trying to kill Putin, and
    Putin is trying to kill This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin). >> >>> > > > > >
    Who is going to win? The Gambino Family or the Bonano Family? >> >>> > > > > >
    Somebody is going to get hit on 46th Street...

    Mob Wars.

    Who gets to own the gas station on Putin Avenue?

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Looks to me..
    This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect
    President for Russia...he's strickly criminal. And

    looks to me
    he is going to vote himself in...
    and knock off Putin.

    Mob style.

    It's a Mafia state, why not?

    you gotta do it wit style.

    On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 23:36:35 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian

    https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C

    Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!

    Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...

    Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)

    (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
    In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
    While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
    There wasn�t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
    In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.

    Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
    the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
    a �beautiful� coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
    the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
    by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
    One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.

    "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?

    This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal.

    He's Putin's kind of guy...

    Do you know what "Putin's kind of guy..." means? Like a John Gotti
    underboss.

    Most of yous don't understand Putin and Russia.

    Russia in fact is a Mafia State. A country run by The Mafia. It's a
    Mafia country. Run by the Mafia.

    If you need a little more understanding...

    By Garry Kasparov
    When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question
    was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of
    Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its
    behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised
    at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions.

    Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this
    looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a
    businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign
    company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy
    marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as
    weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to
    terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is
    what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin
    regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of
    the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind
    the medieval red walls.

    Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part
    oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is
    partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in
    which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over
    this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain
    entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks.

    But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can
    recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by
    Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is
    of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for
    now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to
    the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario
    Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian
    government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr.
    Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start,
    but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian."

    The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is
    business, what is government, and what is criminal -- it's all there in
    Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees
    elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and
    Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin
    government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the
    intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep
    the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia.

    If a member of the inner circle goes against the Capo, his life is
    forfeit. Once Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky wanted to go
    straight and run his Yukos oil company as a legitimate corporation and
    not as another cog in Mr. Putin's KGB, Inc. He quickly found himself in
    a Siberian prison, his company dismantled and looted, and its pieces
    absorbed by the state mafia apparatus of Rosneft and Gazprom.

    The Yukos case has become a model. Private companies are absorbed into
    the state while at the same time the assets of the state companies move
    into private accounts.

    Alexander Litvinenko was a KGB agent who broke the loyalty code by
    fleeing to Britain. Worse, he violated the law of omert&agrave; by going
    to the press and even publishing books about the dirty deeds of Mr.
    Putin and his foot soldiers. Instead of being taken fishing in the
    old-fashioned Godfather style, he was killed in London in the first
    recorded case of nuclear terrorism. Now the Kremlin is refusing to hand
    over the main suspect in the murder.

    Mr. Putin can't understand Britain doing potential harm to its business
    interests over one human life. That's an alien concept. In his world,
    everything is negotiable. Morals and principles are just chips on the
    table in the Kremlin's game. There is no mere misunderstanding in the
    Litvinenko case; there are two different languages being spoken.

    In the civilized world, certain things are sacrosanct. Human life is not
    traded at the same table where business and diplomacy are discussed. But
    for Mr. Putin, it's a true no-limits game. Kosovo, the missile shield,
    pipeline deals, the Iranian nuclear program and democratic rights are
    all just cards to be played.



    Now, do you know who Mikhail Khodorkovsky is? He was head of the Jewish Mafia in Russia.

    When Putin got rid of Mikhail Khodorkovsky...all the other top Jewish Mafia guys ran to Israel.








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    and challenge
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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Tue Aug 22 05:50:50 2023
    On 8/21/2023 7:00 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 6:58 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/6/2023 11:14 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    I don't know why you'd bring up energy-mass equivalence here.


    Sorry I've perhaps got other reasons as well to be pissed.


    Or perhaps I can make a concise form of the gist of what I said for
    posterity.

    Three examples:

    Distance is not "equivalent" to time. A factor of speed is tied in the
    relation it has with time, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Momentum is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of speed is tied in the
    relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Kinetic energy is not "equivalent" to momentum. An additional factor of
    speed is tied in the relation it has with momentum, which cannot be
    taken as just a number.

    And likewise, energy is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of not just
    speed of light, but a second degree speed of light, is tied in the
    relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number,
    regardless of the latter seemingly exhibiting the same value in
    measurements.

    In none of the statements above, you should mistake such realities with
    the "math" expressions of them in your head. Math has nothing to do with
    those realities. They are facts of nature, in and of themselves, with or without the tools of math at your disposal. Don't get them mixed up with
    the math form of their expressions you see on the paper!

    If someone is using the phrase, "energy-mass equivalence", he is just blabbering nonsense. He is trashing the existence of light and the
    feature of speed of it two times over. How can one trash that so easily?

    A Cro-Magnon human obviously can! But so what? Who cares? Cause human,
    Modern Human, does not trash the light and its speed in that
    relationship that energy and mass have with each other, TWO TIMES OVER.









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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Tue Aug 22 14:42:02 2023
    On Tuesday, 22 August 2023 at 20:50:55 UTC+10, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 7:00 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 6:58 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/6/2023 11:14 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    I don't know why you'd bring up energy-mass equivalence here.


    Sorry I've perhaps got other reasons as well to be pissed.
    Or perhaps I can make a concise form of the gist of what I said for posterity.

    Three examples:

    Distance is not "equivalent" to time. A factor of speed is tied in the relation it has with time, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Momentum is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of speed is tied in the relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Kinetic energy is not "equivalent" to momentum. An additional factor of
    speed is tied in the relation it has with momentum, which cannot be
    taken as just a number.

    And likewise, energy is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of not just
    speed of light, but a second degree speed of light, is tied in the
    relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number,
    regardless of the latter seemingly exhibiting the same value in
    measurements.

    In none of the statements above, you should mistake such realities with
    the "math" expressions of them in your head. Math has nothing to do with those realities. They are facts of nature, in and of themselves, with or without the tools of math at your disposal. Don't get them mixed up with
    the math form of their expressions you see on the paper!

    If someone is using the phrase, "energy-mass equivalence", he is just blabbering nonsense. He is trashing the existence of light and the
    feature of speed of it two times over. How can one trash that so easily?

    A Cro-Magnon human obviously can! But so what? Who cares? Cause human,
    Modern Human, does not trash the light and its speed in that
    relationship that energy and mass have with each other, TWO TIMES OVER.
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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to Alan Folmsbee on Wed Aug 23 08:45:53 2023
    Alan confuses spam as being work. Spam is worthless tripe.

    Alan Knucklehead watches a grocer stack oranges. Then, Alan thinks this stacking is related to protons and neutrons and proceeds to fill sci.physics with the childish idea that physics is orange-stacking.

    But, more likely, Alan is some ignorant robot, with spam spam spam

    On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 5:55:39 PM UTC-5, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
    You have received the notification of
    The Theory of the Shape of Matter 10 Trillion X
    All elements have their proton and neutron locations tabulated.
    Here is the coordinate file:
    Quantum chromodynamics will take 200 years to get half this far.
    Alan Folmsbee, your benefactor.


    You mean your spam is done. Let us not confuse work with spam.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Aug 23 12:36:54 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    NEVERMIND, dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is dead.


    Putin finally killed him.





    On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 23:47:07 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    HEY! What happen to my D-Day?

    dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) was suppose to invade Poland 2
    weeks ago! wats holding him up?


    i never seen so many stupid people running a war...






    On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 22:30:30 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    I predict
    dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
    will make the month of August...D-day.


    Somewhere between August 2nd - and Aug, 7th.



    bookmark dis page.



    The Starmaker wrote:

    I heard dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...is still alive!

    It was kind of dark, so i couldn't see him well...but i recognize his
    voice..and it was definitely him,,,dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin).

    I guess he is getting ready for...D-Day!

    On Sun, 09 Jul 2023 12:28:46 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    I heard, (but i don't know if it's true)

    the Wagner guys are going to take Poland.


    Now, it's the best time to take Poland while yous have a pussy for
    President of the United States.


    The next President might not allow it.


    Everyone must always grab an ...opportunity.


    Biden will announced he will put sanctions on dat Wagner guy...cut off
    his PayPal account.


    Are Polish girls pretty????



    i wan some of dat!



    How many polish people does it take to change a light bulb?
    100, one to hold the bulb and ninety nine to spin the house.











    On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 21:05:41 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    ...and while the two bulldogs are
    fighting under the rug...

    now it's a good time for
    the little people of Russia to
    arm themselves and take Putin out.

    dat wagner guy would forgive them.

    Now is the time to stick a
    water hose down Putin's throat
    while he is already drowning.

    finish him off..



    The Starmaker wrote:

    So, Putin tells dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...
    "Don't worry, I'm dropping all treason charges and all dat other stuff".

    Then Putin tells his friend.."KILL DAT MOTHERFUCKER!!!!"

    and his friend sez, "What about his all mercenary soldiers?"

    Putin sez, "Tell them to come in and they can all join my army."

    Then .."KILL ALL THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!"

    two bulldogs under a rug....

    who will come out..alive?

    The Starmaker wrote:

    My advise to this Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...stay aways from >>> >>> > ...windows.

    The Starmaker wrote:

    if you people know anything about the mafia...
    you know Putin needs to rub out dat wagner guy, otherwise...

    EVERYBODY WILL WANT TO KNOCK OFF PUTIN!

    One of them has to die...soon.

    Which one is it going to be????

    (the wagner guy already made his move and now has the popular vote) >>> >>> > >
    dis is not a game of chess..

    The Starmaker wrote:

    I heard the FBI needs your help..

    they are looking for this guy...anybody seen him around?

    https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif

    looks a liitle familiar..

    there is a reward out for him..$250,000.02

    https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif

    i tink i know where dis guy lives..

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Of course Putin is a chicken...he's got a lot more to lose than dat
    purse snatcher Wagner.

    One of those two has to...die.

    Which one are you rooting for? da gangster or da gangster?

    Why doesn't da Big Guy take them both out?

    well, we'll deal with wat ever gangster survies....

    Biden gots his own Crime Family to look after.

    Trump has to go after all the Crime Families in Washington!

    (luckly Trump has Rudy Giuliani to consult him...Rudy is an expert on
    Crime Families!)

    It's Kill or be Killed.

    You wanna make an omelete you gotta break some eggs.

    As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster. ...

    The Starmaker wrote:

    This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is trying to kill Putin, and
    Putin is trying to kill This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin). >>> >>> > > > > >
    Who is going to win? The Gambino Family or the Bonano Family? >>> >>> > > > > >
    Somebody is going to get hit on 46th Street...

    Mob Wars.

    Who gets to own the gas station on Putin Avenue?

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Looks to me..
    This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect
    President for Russia...he's strickly criminal. And

    looks to me
    he is going to vote himself in...
    and knock off Putin.

    Mob style.

    It's a Mafia state, why not?

    you gotta do it wit style.

    On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 23:36:35 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian

    https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C

    Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!

    Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...

    Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)

    (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
    In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
    While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
    There wasn�t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
    In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.

    Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
    the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
    a �beautiful� coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
    the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
    by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
    One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.

    "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?

    This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal.

    He's Putin's kind of guy...

    Do you know what "Putin's kind of guy..." means? Like a John Gotti
    underboss.

    Most of yous don't understand Putin and Russia.

    Russia in fact is a Mafia State. A country run by The Mafia. It's a
    Mafia country. Run by the Mafia.

    If you need a little more understanding...

    By Garry Kasparov
    When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question
    was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of
    Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its
    behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised
    at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions.

    Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this
    looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a
    businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign
    company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy
    marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as
    weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to
    terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is
    what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin
    regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of
    the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind
    the medieval red walls.

    Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part
    oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is
    partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in
    which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over
    this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain
    entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks.

    But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can
    recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by
    Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is
    of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for
    now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to
    the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario
    Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian
    government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr.
    Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start,
    but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian."

    The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is
    business, what is government, and what is criminal -- it's all there in
    Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees
    elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and
    Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin
    government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the
    intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep
    the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia.

    If a member of the inner circle goes against the Capo, his life is
    forfeit. Once Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky wanted to go
    straight and run his Yukos oil company as a legitimate corporation and
    not as another cog in Mr. Putin's KGB, Inc. He quickly found himself in
    a Siberian prison, his company dismantled and looted, and its pieces
    absorbed by the state mafia apparatus of Rosneft and Gazprom.

    The Yukos case has become a model. Private companies are absorbed into
    the state while at the same time the assets of the state companies move
    into private accounts.

    Alexander Litvinenko was a KGB agent who broke the loyalty code by
    fleeing to Britain. Worse, he violated the law of omert&agrave; by going
    to the press and even publishing books about the dirty deeds of Mr.
    Putin and his foot soldiers. Instead of being taken fishing in the
    old-fashioned Godfather style, he was killed in London in the first
    recorded case of nuclear terrorism. Now the Kremlin is refusing to hand
    over the main suspect in the murder.

    Mr. Putin can't understand Britain doing potential harm to its business
    interests over one human life. That's an alien concept. In his world,
    everything is negotiable. Morals and principles are just chips on the
    table in the Kremlin's game. There is no mere misunderstanding in the
    Litvinenko case; there are two different languages being spoken.

    In the civilized world, certain things are sacrosanct. Human life is not
    traded at the same table where business and diplomacy are discussed. But
    for Mr. Putin, it's a true no-limits game. Kosovo, the missile shield,
    pipeline deals, the Iranian nuclear program and democratic rights are
    all just cards to be played.



    Now, do you know who Mikhail Khodorkovsky is? He was head of the Jewish Mafia in Russia.

    When Putin got rid of Mikhail Khodorkovsky...all the other top Jewish Mafia guys ran to Israel.








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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 23 13:19:05 2023
    How has science observed a nucleus?

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Wed Aug 23 14:11:46 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Putin killing dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) means
    dat guy is not running for President of Russia.

    Everybody knows a bullet is a *decisive* vote.

    What happens if the democratcs decide to use...a decisive vote against
    Donald Trump????


    i guess it would mean he's not running for president.


    climate change.


    The Starmaker wrote:

    NEVERMIND, dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is dead.

    Putin finally killed him.

    On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 23:47:07 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    HEY! What happen to my D-Day?

    dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) was suppose to invade Poland 2
    weeks ago! wats holding him up?


    i never seen so many stupid people running a war...






    On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 22:30:30 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    I predict
    dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
    will make the month of August...D-day.


    Somewhere between August 2nd - and Aug, 7th.



    bookmark dis page.



    The Starmaker wrote:

    I heard dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...is still alive!

    It was kind of dark, so i couldn't see him well...but i recognize his
    voice..and it was definitely him,,,dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin). >>>
    I guess he is getting ready for...D-Day!

    On Sun, 09 Jul 2023 12:28:46 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    I heard, (but i don't know if it's true)

    the Wagner guys are going to take Poland.


    Now, it's the best time to take Poland while yous have a pussy for
    President of the United States.


    The next President might not allow it.


    Everyone must always grab an ...opportunity.


    Biden will announced he will put sanctions on dat Wagner guy...cut off >>> >his PayPal account.


    Are Polish girls pretty????



    i wan some of dat!



    How many polish people does it take to change a light bulb?
    100, one to hold the bulb and ninety nine to spin the house.











    On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 21:05:41 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    ...and while the two bulldogs are
    fighting under the rug...

    now it's a good time for
    the little people of Russia to
    arm themselves and take Putin out.

    dat wagner guy would forgive them.

    Now is the time to stick a
    water hose down Putin's throat
    while he is already drowning.

    finish him off..



    The Starmaker wrote:

    So, Putin tells dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...
    "Don't worry, I'm dropping all treason charges and all dat other stuff".

    Then Putin tells his friend.."KILL DAT MOTHERFUCKER!!!!"

    and his friend sez, "What about his all mercenary soldiers?"

    Putin sez, "Tell them to come in and they can all join my army."

    Then .."KILL ALL THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!"

    two bulldogs under a rug....

    who will come out..alive?

    The Starmaker wrote:

    My advise to this Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...stay aways from >>> >>> > ...windows.

    The Starmaker wrote:

    if you people know anything about the mafia...
    you know Putin needs to rub out dat wagner guy, otherwise...

    EVERYBODY WILL WANT TO KNOCK OFF PUTIN!

    One of them has to die...soon.

    Which one is it going to be????

    (the wagner guy already made his move and now has the popular vote)

    dis is not a game of chess..

    The Starmaker wrote:

    I heard the FBI needs your help..

    they are looking for this guy...anybody seen him around?

    https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif

    looks a liitle familiar..

    there is a reward out for him..$250,000.02

    https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif

    i tink i know where dis guy lives..

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Of course Putin is a chicken...he's got a lot more to lose than dat
    purse snatcher Wagner.

    One of those two has to...die.

    Which one are you rooting for? da gangster or da gangster? >>> >>> > > > >
    Why doesn't da Big Guy take them both out?

    well, we'll deal with wat ever gangster survies....

    Biden gots his own Crime Family to look after.

    Trump has to go after all the Crime Families in Washington! >>> >>> > > > >
    (luckly Trump has Rudy Giuliani to consult him...Rudy is an expert on
    Crime Families!)

    It's Kill or be Killed.

    You wanna make an omelete you gotta break some eggs.

    As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster. ...

    The Starmaker wrote:

    This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is trying to kill Putin, and
    Putin is trying to kill This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin).

    Who is going to win? The Gambino Family or the Bonano Family?

    Somebody is going to get hit on 46th Street...

    Mob Wars.

    Who gets to own the gas station on Putin Avenue?

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Looks to me..
    This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect
    President for Russia...he's strickly criminal. And

    looks to me
    he is going to vote himself in...
    and knock off Putin.

    Mob style.

    It's a Mafia state, why not?

    you gotta do it wit style.

    On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 23:36:35 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian

    https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB71137

    Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!

    Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...

    Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)

    (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
    In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
    While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
    There wasn�t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
    In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.

    Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
    the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
    a �beautiful� coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
    the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
    by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
    One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.

    "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?

    This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal.

    He's Putin's kind of guy...

    Do you know what "Putin's kind of guy..." means? Like a John Gotti
    underboss.

    Most of yous don't understand Putin and Russia.

    Russia in fact is a Mafia State. A country run by The Mafia. It's a
    Mafia country. Run by the Mafia.

    If you need a little more understanding...

    By Garry Kasparov
    When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question
    was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of
    Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its
    behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised
    at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions.

    Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this
    looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a
    businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign
    company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy
    marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as
    weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to
    terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is
    what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin
    regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of
    the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind
    the medieval red walls.

    Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part
    oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is
    partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in
    which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over
    this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain
    entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks.

    But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can
    recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by
    Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is
    of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for
    now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to
    the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario
    Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian
    government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr.
    Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start,
    but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian."

    The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is
    business, what is government, and what is criminal -- it's all there in
    Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees
    elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and
    Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin
    government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the
    intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep
    the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia.

    If a member of the inner circle goes against the Capo, his life is
    forfeit. Once Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky wanted to go
    straight and run his Yukos oil company as a legitimate corporation and
    not as another cog in Mr. Putin's KGB, Inc. He quickly found himself in
    a Siberian prison, his company dismantled and looted, and its pieces
    absorbed by the state mafia apparatus of Rosneft and Gazprom.

    The Yukos case has become a model. Private companies are absorbed into
    the state while at the same time the assets of the state companies move
    into private accounts.

    Alexander Litvinenko was a KGB agent who broke the loyalty code by
    fleeing to Britain. Worse, he violated the law of omert&agrave; by going
    to the press and even publishing books about the dirty deeds of Mr.
    Putin and his foot soldiers. Instead of being taken fishing in the
    old-fashioned Godfather style, he was killed in London in the first
    recorded case of nuclear terrorism. Now the Kremlin is refusing to hand
    over the main suspect in the murder.

    Mr. Putin can't understand Britain doing potential harm to its business
    interests over one human life. That's an alien concept. In his world,
    everything is negotiable. Morals and principles are just chips on the
    table in the Kremlin's game. There is no mere misunderstanding in the
    Litvinenko case; there are two different languages being spoken.

    In the civilized world, certain things are sacrosanct. Human life is not
    traded at the same table where business and diplomacy are discussed. But
    for Mr. Putin, it's a true no-limits game. Kosovo, the missile shield,
    pipeline deals, the Iranian nuclear program and democratic rights are
    all just cards to be played.



    Now, do you know who Mikhail Khodorkovsky is? He was head of the Jewish Mafia in Russia.

    When Putin got rid of Mikhail Khodorkovsky...all the other top Jewish Mafia guys ran to Israel.








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  • From Enes Richard@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 23 14:33:31 2023
    środa, 23 sierpnia 2023 o 22:19:08 UTC+2 [email protected] napisał(a):
    How has science observed a nucleus?

    Rutherford's golden experience,
    interpreted backwards by an American pretending to be Greek.

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Wed Aug 23 17:14:20 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    On 8/23/2023 4:11 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Putin killing dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) means
    dat guy is not running for President of Russia.

    Everybody knows a bullet is a*decisive* vote.

    What happens if the democratcs decide to use...a decisive vote against
    Donald Trump????



    I would get the bag of pinto beans out.




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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Wed Aug 23 17:13:31 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 8/23/2023 2:36 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    NEVERMIND, dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is dead.


    Putin finally killed him.



    He must've been told he was already dead, right after that angry and threatening speech he made against Russia's military leaders, while
    standing beside a number of his fallen soldiers that night. That's the
    only scenario in which he would later move forces toward Moscow...! He
    knew that he was dead, and at the last moment prevented more bloodshed,
    i.e. the only thing left for him to do.

    His soldiers and followers today have uploaded into Telegram the last
    scene of his speech of that night. They all must be under the impression
    his fate was sealed with that speech. This is the video they uploaded to Telegram today:

    https://streamable.com/k5ae3a

    Note the awesome choice of background music... ("Until We Meet Again" by Demarcus Views). Some first-rate work. So I wonder whether it was his
    soldiers who uploaded this work to that channel, or some illuminati
    elsewhere in the world, or a true Russian supporter in St Petersburg who
    wasn't just anybody. Had the mastery to bring together this stuff.



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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 23 15:11:55 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Putin is probably saying right now.."okay, dats dat."


    Nancy Pelosi is probably sayin..

    (she's lookin thru the constitution...)

    "Where does it say you cannot kill a former president????"

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Wed Aug 23 17:58:48 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 8/23/2023 5:13 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/23/2023 2:36 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    NEVERMIND,  dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)  is dead.


    Putin finally killed him.



    He must've been told he was already dead, right after that angry and threatening speech he made against Russia's military leaders, while
    standing beside a number of his fallen soldiers that night. That's the
    only scenario in which he would later move forces toward Moscow...! He
    knew that he was dead, and at the last moment prevented more bloodshed,
    i.e. the only thing left for him to do.

    His soldiers and followers today have uploaded into Telegram the last
    scene of his speech of that night. They all must be under the impression
    his fate was sealed with that speech. This is the video they uploaded to Telegram today:

     https://streamable.com/k5ae3a

    Note the awesome choice of background music... ("Until We Meet Again" by Demarcus Views). Some first-rate work. So I wonder whether it was his soldiers who uploaded this work to that channel, or some illuminati
    elsewhere in the world, or a true Russian supporter in St Petersburg who wasn't just anybody. Had the mastery to bring together this stuff.





    A building in St. Petersburg tonight:

    https://i.postimg.cc/BbJjnJYq/building-in-St-Petersburg.jpg



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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Wed Aug 23 20:07:47 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Wed, 23 Aug 2023 17:13:31 -0500, Physfitfreak <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 8/23/2023 2:36 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    NEVERMIND, dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is dead.

    Putin finally killed him.

    He let him out of his Ukraine contract and sent him back to Africa.

    He must've been told he was already dead, right after that angry and >threatening speech he made against Russia's military leaders, while
    standing beside a number of his fallen soldiers that night. That's the
    only scenario in which he would later move forces toward Moscow...! He
    knew that he was dead, and at the last moment prevented more bloodshed,
    i.e. the only thing left for him to do.

    His soldiers and followers today have uploaded into Telegram the last
    scene of his speech of that night. They all must be under the impression
    his fate was sealed with that speech. This is the video they uploaded to >Telegram today:

    https://streamable.com/k5ae3a

    Well, clicking on that was a waste of time.

    Note the awesome choice of background music... ("Until We Meet Again" by >Demarcus Views). Some first-rate work. So I wonder whether it was his >soldiers who uploaded this work to that channel, or some illuminati
    elsewhere in the world, or a true Russian supporter in St Petersburg who >wasn't just anybody. Had the mastery to bring together this stuff.

    Priggy is currently back in Africa on his regular beat. There have been coups in some of
    the countries he operates in. There was a coup in Niger just last month.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Aug 23 23:06:22 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    and for those of you who cannot keep up with world events:

    News about Wagner, Yevgeny Prigozhin https://news.google.com/stories/CAAqNggKIjBDQklTSGpvSmMzUnZjbmt0TXpZd1NoRUtEd2lNcUx6cUNCSGhnZUVBTk9TTWJTZ0FQAQ?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen




    Bang bang, he shot me down
    Bang bang, I hit the ground
    Bang bang, that awful sound
    Bang bang, Putin shot me down.




    On Wed, 23 Aug 2023 14:11:46 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Putin killing dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) means
    dat guy is not running for President of Russia.

    Everybody knows a bullet is a *decisive* vote.

    What happens if the democratcs decide to use...a decisive vote against
    Donald Trump????


    i guess it would mean he's not running for president.


    climate change.


    The Starmaker wrote:

    NEVERMIND, dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is dead.

    Putin finally killed him.

    On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 23:47:07 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    HEY! What happen to my D-Day?

    dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) was suppose to invade Poland 2
    weeks ago! wats holding him up?


    i never seen so many stupid people running a war...






    On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 22:30:30 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    I predict
    dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
    will make the month of August...D-day.


    Somewhere between August 2nd - and Aug, 7th.



    bookmark dis page.



    The Starmaker wrote:

    I heard dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...is still alive!

    It was kind of dark, so i couldn't see him well...but i recognize his
    voice..and it was definitely him,,,dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin). >> >>>
    I guess he is getting ready for...D-Day!

    On Sun, 09 Jul 2023 12:28:46 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    I heard, (but i don't know if it's true)

    the Wagner guys are going to take Poland.


    Now, it's the best time to take Poland while yous have a pussy for
    President of the United States.


    The next President might not allow it.


    Everyone must always grab an ...opportunity.


    Biden will announced he will put sanctions on dat Wagner guy...cut off >> >>> >his PayPal account.


    Are Polish girls pretty????



    i wan some of dat!



    How many polish people does it take to change a light bulb?
    100, one to hold the bulb and ninety nine to spin the house.











    On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 21:05:41 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    ...and while the two bulldogs are
    fighting under the rug...

    now it's a good time for
    the little people of Russia to
    arm themselves and take Putin out.

    dat wagner guy would forgive them.

    Now is the time to stick a
    water hose down Putin's throat
    while he is already drowning.

    finish him off..



    The Starmaker wrote:

    So, Putin tells dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...
    "Don't worry, I'm dropping all treason charges and all dat other stuff".

    Then Putin tells his friend.."KILL DAT MOTHERFUCKER!!!!"

    and his friend sez, "What about his all mercenary soldiers?"

    Putin sez, "Tell them to come in and they can all join my army."

    Then .."KILL ALL THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!"

    two bulldogs under a rug....

    who will come out..alive?

    The Starmaker wrote:

    My advise to this Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...stay aways from
    ...windows.

    The Starmaker wrote:

    if you people know anything about the mafia...
    you know Putin needs to rub out dat wagner guy, otherwise...

    EVERYBODY WILL WANT TO KNOCK OFF PUTIN!

    One of them has to die...soon.

    Which one is it going to be????

    (the wagner guy already made his move and now has the popular vote)

    dis is not a game of chess..

    The Starmaker wrote:

    I heard the FBI needs your help..

    they are looking for this guy...anybody seen him around?

    https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif

    looks a liitle familiar..

    there is a reward out for him..$250,000.02

    https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif

    i tink i know where dis guy lives..

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Of course Putin is a chicken...he's got a lot more to lose than dat
    purse snatcher Wagner.

    One of those two has to...die.

    Which one are you rooting for? da gangster or da gangster? >> >>> >>> > > > >
    Why doesn't da Big Guy take them both out?

    well, we'll deal with wat ever gangster survies....

    Biden gots his own Crime Family to look after.

    Trump has to go after all the Crime Families in Washington! >> >>> >>> > > > >
    (luckly Trump has Rudy Giuliani to consult him...Rudy is an expert on
    Crime Families!)

    It's Kill or be Killed.

    You wanna make an omelete you gotta break some eggs.

    As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster. ...

    The Starmaker wrote:

    This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is trying to kill Putin, and
    Putin is trying to kill This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin).

    Who is going to win? The Gambino Family or the Bonano Family?

    Somebody is going to get hit on 46th Street...

    Mob Wars.

    Who gets to own the gas station on Putin Avenue?

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Looks to me..
    This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect
    President for Russia...he's strickly criminal. And

    looks to me
    he is going to vote himself in...
    and knock off Putin.

    Mob style.

    It's a Mafia state, why not?

    you gotta do it wit style.

    On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 23:36:35 -0700, The Starmaker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian

    https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB71137

    Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!

    Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...

    Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)

    (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
    In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
    While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
    There wasn�t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
    In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.

    Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
    the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
    a �beautiful� coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
    the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
    by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
    One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.

    "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?

    This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal.

    He's Putin's kind of guy...

    Do you know what "Putin's kind of guy..." means? Like a John Gotti
    underboss.

    Most of yous don't understand Putin and Russia.

    Russia in fact is a Mafia State. A country run by The Mafia. It's a
    Mafia country. Run by the Mafia.

    If you need a little more understanding...

    By Garry Kasparov
    When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question
    was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of
    Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its
    behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised
    at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions.

    Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this
    looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a
    businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign
    company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy
    marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as
    weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to
    terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is
    what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin
    regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of
    the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind
    the medieval red walls.

    Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part
    oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is
    partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in
    which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over
    this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain
    entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks.

    But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can
    recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by
    Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is
    of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for
    now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to
    the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario
    Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian
    government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr.
    Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start,
    but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian."

    The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is
    business, what is government, and what is criminal -- it's all there in
    Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees
    elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and
    Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin
    government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the
    intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep
    the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia.

    If a member of the inner circle goes against the Capo, his life is
    forfeit. Once Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky wanted to go
    straight and run his Yukos oil company as a legitimate corporation and
    not as another cog in Mr. Putin's KGB, Inc. He quickly found himself in
    a Siberian prison, his company dismantled and looted, and its pieces
    absorbed by the state mafia apparatus of Rosneft and Gazprom.

    The Yukos case has become a model. Private companies are absorbed into
    the state while at the same time the assets of the state companies move
    into private accounts.

    Alexander Litvinenko was a KGB agent who broke the loyalty code by
    fleeing to Britain. Worse, he violated the law of omert&agrave; by going
    to the press and even publishing books about the dirty deeds of Mr.
    Putin and his foot soldiers. Instead of being taken fishing in the
    old-fashioned Godfather style, he was killed in London in the first
    recorded case of nuclear terrorism. Now the Kremlin is refusing to hand
    over the main suspect in the murder.

    Mr. Putin can't understand Britain doing potential harm to its business
    interests over one human life. That's an alien concept. In his world,
    everything is negotiable. Morals and principles are just chips on the
    table in the Kremlin's game. There is no mere misunderstanding in the
    Litvinenko case; there are two different languages being spoken.

    In the civilized world, certain things are sacrosanct. Human life is not
    traded at the same table where business and diplomacy are discussed. But
    for Mr. Putin, it's a true no-limits game. Kosovo, the missile shield,
    pipeline deals, the Iranian nuclear program and democratic rights are
    all just cards to be played.



    Now, do you know who Mikhail Khodorkovsky is? He was head of the Jewish Mafia in Russia.

    When Putin got rid of Mikhail Khodorkovsky...all the other top Jewish Mafia guys ran to Israel.








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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 24 00:41:41 2023
    Well we had 3 days of scorching heat from a heat dome over the Plains of 40 degrees Celsius. Due for another hot one on thursday. But I am more worried for rain. My lilac leaves started turning black and now watering them.

    Yes, the central USA is inevitably going to be a Sahara like desert. Farming will have to rely more and more on irrigation from the major rivers.

    With an ever increasing warm Earth, the Jet Stream just does not allow the interior of continents enough rainfall. And drops the rain on the coasts as storms at sea batter into the coastline.

    Once I moved out West again in 1999, I had no, no idea that rainfall would become the major issue, the major problem. Of course, if I had remained in New Hampshire, it would not even come on the radar screen of my mind as a problem. No, I cannot stomach
    1/2 of the year being a gigantic worry of water for plants. The inevitable science of Sun gone Red Giant Phase. Of course I had no idea of that in 1999. Only after 2017 was I aware of Sun gone Red Giant. And here it is 2023, with 4 years in a row of
    drought.

    Between drought and grasshoppers, my asparagus and rhubard are almost gone.

    Many of my hazelnuts are half dead.

    Hard to absorb for someone who loves plants.

    AP

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  • From Timothy Golden@21:1/5 to Archimedes Plutonium on Fri Aug 25 10:09:41 2023
    On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 3:41:45 AM UTC-4, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    Well we had 3 days of scorching heat from a heat dome over the Plains of 40 degrees Celsius. Due for another hot one on thursday. But I am more worried for rain. My lilac leaves started turning black and now watering them.

    Yes, the central USA is inevitably going to be a Sahara like desert. Farming will have to rely more and more on irrigation from the major rivers.

    With an ever increasing warm Earth, the Jet Stream just does not allow the interior of continents enough rainfall. And drops the rain on the coasts as storms at sea batter into the coastline.

    Once I moved out West again in 1999, I had no, no idea that rainfall would become the major issue, the major problem. Of course, if I had remained in New Hampshire, it would not even come on the radar screen of my mind as a problem. No, I cannot
    stomach 1/2 of the year being a gigantic worry of water for plants. The inevitable science of Sun gone Red Giant Phase. Of course I had no idea of that in 1999. Only after 2017 was I aware of Sun gone Red Giant. And here it is 2023, with 4 years in a row
    of drought.

    Between drought and grasshoppers, my asparagus and rhubard are almost gone.

    Many of my hazelnuts are half dead.

    Hard to absorb for someone who loves plants.

    AP

    Hi Archie. Been scanning your journal here. Meanwhile here in the northeast (central NH) we have had the coolest and wettest summer that I can remember. And we've been virtually stuck in it all summer long; just at the central states are stuck in the
    high pressure loop. Who knew climate change would involve jet stream stability? My own theory is that if a butterfly in Brazil can bring a rainstorm to Detroit, than a field of windmills torquing the jet stream should be able to make it budge. Maybe try
    and build up the ice-caps, too.
    I'm looking to plant hazelnuts here. Plenty of other stuff going too.

    Seems like there is some reason to hope that the saturation effect of OCO is real. If this is true then we may reach negative feedback. Meanwhile though to what degree does hot air over a cool ocean merely dry the air as it warms the ocean? Evaporation
    is done by the inverse. Likewise as the ice is melting at the poles, that is again a drying effect to the atmosphere. 2016 is still the hottest year on record. Fingers crossed, we'll lock in at +1.0C, evening showers, and partly cloudy skies all day.
    Maybe blame the Russians?

    Meanwhile we've had a bigger problem brewing that nobody seems to want to tackle: https://www.usgs.gov/special-topics/water-science-school/science/groundwater-decline-and-depletion

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to Volney on Sun Aug 27 08:10:28 2023
    2-Can_Dr.Walter Gilbert,Dr.Martin Karplus,Dr.Arieh Warshel,Dr.Roger Kornberg,Dr.Elias J. Corey,Dr.Dudley R. Herschbach,Dr.William N. Lipscomb,Dr.Robert Burns Woodward,Dr.T.W. Richards - -PLEASE--step into Harvard Univ physics or chemistry lab and weigh
    the mass of Electrolysis Water, proving Water is H4O not H2O. AP's homegrown lab cannot do the fine tuning experiment of weighing a test tube of electrolyzed hydrogen and oxygen from water. If AP is correct Water is really H4O, not H2O. My weighing scale
    is puny and insufficient for the job at hand, 0.00001 gram or less of hydrogen and oxygen test tubes. If AP is correct the hydrogen is 1/4 the weight of oxygen, if mainstream chemistry, physics is correct the hydrogen is 1/8 in amu to oxygen.


    Can Harvard run a electrolysis experiment on Water, for I believe water is really H4O and not H2O.

    Harvard did have a Nobel Chemistry winners in Martin Karplus, Arieh Warshel, Roger Kornberg, Walter Gilbert, Elias J. Corey, Dudley R. Herschbach, William N. Lipscomb, Robert Burns Woodward, T.W. Richards.

    If AP is correct the hydrogen test tube weighs 1/4 of the oxygen in atomic mass units. If mainstream chemistry and physics is correct, the hydrogen test tube weighs 1/8 of the oxygen test tube in a.m.u.

    Would the physicists and chemists of Harvard be interested in conducting the experiment. My home grown lab cannot weigh to 0.00001 gram or less.




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    Aug 26, 2023, 12:23:45 AM 




    On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 12:26:15 AM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
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    Autistic necrophile

    I want to fuck her corpse

    Not again!

    I want to fuck her corpse

    You sicko! Why do you keep saying that?

    wanting to fuck her corpse

    Is corpse fucking some sort of initiation rite when joining the Evil
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    I want to fuck her corpse

    On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 1:09:50 PM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
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    Re:Kibo >I want to fuck her corpse>AMS Jill Pipher,Ruth Charney, Harvard's Dr.Lisa Randall, Dr.Hau,CIA Kate Heinzelman, MIT's Anette Hosoi,Cynthia Barnhart
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    Univ Dayton Eric Spina, why Kibo hate The Pope? He continues to defile The Pope? Can you stop him, for he has defiled and demonized AP for 30 years nonstop, are you going to let him defile the Pope for 30 years???? And Todd B.Smith, how is your
    reading of AP's TEACHING TRUE PHYSICS and TEACHING TRUE MATH textbook series (see below) coming along. I would answer any questions you may have, provided they are serious questions.

    Kibo Parry Moroney-Volney, an open hate channel--
    Can_University Dayton --Please- please-step into the Univ Dayton, Ohio physics or chemistry lab and weigh the mass of Electrolysis Water, proving Water is H4O not H2O.

    +Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within

    +Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within

    3m views Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium


    Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within the accuracy I need for weighing a test tube of oxygen then a test tube of hydrogen from water electrolysis.


    Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium

    In Old Chemistry and Old Physics, their subatomic particles were do nothing and no function and no job particles that sit around as balls or whiz around the outside of balls doing nothing but pointless circling.

    In New Physics and New Chemistry-- All is Atom and Atoms are nothing but electricity and magnetism. Every subatomic particle has a job a function a purpose as to the Laws of Electromagnetism--- Faraday law, Coulomb law, Ampere law,
    Capacitor law.

    A proton is a torus of 840MeV with 840 windings, while the muon is the true electron of Atoms and is encased inside the proton torus thrusting through and producing electricity-- magnetic monopoles.

    The neutron of Atoms is a parallel plate capacitor storing the electricity of proton+muon and is skin cover on the outside of the proton torus in the form of parallel plates.

    Can hydrogen be a Atom if it is just a proton+muon? No, all atoms require to have a capacitor such as at least one neutron. Thus the Hydrogen Atom is H2 where you have 2 proton+muon where 1 of the 2 proton+muon acts like a neutron to the
    other proton+muon. Thus, water molecule is not H2O but rather is H4O.

    AP is waiting for experimental chemists and physicists to prove him correct that Water is H4O.

    In the meantime we have Hydroxyl which in Old Chemistry, especially Biology is OH, while AP says that is wrong and that is really H2O.

    Now glycerine is a hydroxyl with formula C3H8O3. And what I am thinking at this moment, is that hydroxyls will be an easier proof that Water is truly H4O, rather than wait for experimentalists to actually "weigh the electrolysis test tubes
    of oxygen and hydrogen".

    You see, with H4O as water, glycerine is C3(2 waters)O with an extra oxygen. If Water is H2O then glycerine is C3(4 waters) deficit O. It is missing an oxygen if water is H2O.

    The reason glycerine is so effective as a skin ointment is because it has glycerine, the extra O oxygen. If water were H2O, then glycerine would be a missing oxygen and not a skin lotion that works, but makes skin even more dry.

    Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium

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    --- quoting in part from source-- Study.com ---
    Perhaps there is only two Faraday laws on Electrolysis. I am looking at the one that states: Faraday's first law of electrolysis relates the mass of a substance liberated (or deposited) at an electrode to the electric charge used (Q). A
    proportionality constant Z can be used:

    m = ZQ = (E/96485)(Q)

    m = mass, Q = total charge rewritten as Q = I*t amperes x time in seconds.

    This website gives an example: 5amps passed through molten Sodium Chloride for 3 hours. Calculate the mass of Sodium. E=23/1.

    m = (23/96485) (5) (3*60*60) approx 12.87 grams.

    --- end quoting in part from source-- Study.com ---

    Now has such a experiment been performed on Water to see how much atomic mass of hydrogen and of oxygen results??? If AP is correct, the formula of water is H4O, if Old Physics, Old Chemistry is correct the formula is H2O. So which is it???

    AP


    No, sorry no, Faraday's Law of Electrolysis is not going to tell the correct mass of hydrogen.

    Reading Wikipedia on Faraday's Electrolysis law.

    --- quoting Wikipedia ---
    A monovalent ion requires 1 electron for discharge, a divalent ion requires 2 electrons for discharge and so on. Thus, if x electrons flow,
    x/v atoms are discharged.

    So the mass m discharged is

    m= (xM)/vN_A) = (QM)/(eN_A *v) = (QM) / (vF)
    where
    N_A is the Avogadro constant;
    Q = xe is the total charge, equal to the number of electrons (x) times the elementary charge e;
    F is the Faraday constant.
    --- end quoting Wikipedia ---

    No, the Faraday law of Electrolysis will not work on water with a correct answer, because H is not an atom but H2 is an Atom. And where one of the proton+muon converts to being a neutron to the other proton+muon.

    So if Faraday's law of Electrolysis was applied to water, thinking it would deliver a true answer is mistaken because the one H converts to neutron.

    So it appears that we need to directly measure the test tube of oxygen and the test tube of hydrogen by a direct mass measurement.

    AP
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    I doubt we can measure a test tube of hydrogen or test tube of oxygen, too small to determine the mass on some sort of weight scale.

    But here is a possible lucrative idea. We should be able to get pure deuterium water. Then run the electrolysis. Collect the test tubes.

    Now have some sort of balancing beam weight scale. Place the regular water of hydrogen test tube on one side, and place the deuterium water hydrogen test tube on other side. If they stay balanced, then AP is correct and Water is really H4O.

    AP
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    Cosmic Rays from Sun

    90% of Sun's cosmic rays are 840MeV proton+muon inside = H. The hydrogen Atom is H2 where one of the H proton+muon converts to being a neutron.

    When these proton+muon hit Earth atmosphere, they can turn into pions and muons.

    I commented that H alone is a subatomic particle and that makes sense in the idea that Sun's cosmic rays are 90% these proton+muon.

    Now is interstellar hydrogen H2 and intergalactic hydrogen H2 formed when one H cosmic ray joins up with another H cosmic ray to form H2 atom?

    Is this how we get H2 in outer space? From the splitting apart of H2 into H cosmic rays?

    So how much of the Sun's hydrogen is H2 and how much is H ready to join with another H and reform back into H2. Probably little of the Sun's H is H alone, and the vast majority of the Sun's hydrogen is H2.

    How much deuterium in the Sun? And it is a higher percentage than the deuterium in water on Earth?

    AP
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    Water is the only known non-metallic substance that expands when if freezes; its density decreases and it expands approximately 9% by volume. (Source: web Lunar and Planetary Institute)

    I have to wait for experimental chemists and physicists to weigh the mass of test tubes from electrolysis, as to the verdict-- water is H4O.

    But until that news comes in, I will look for other means of proof.

    So AP says that the H2 is not a molecule but is the hydrogen Atom itself, where one proton+muon converts to a neutron and capacitates the other proton+muon which undergo the Faraday law.

    There are subatomic particles of H in the form of Cosmic Rays from the Sun, but most of the Sun's hydrogen is H2, and flips back and forth from H to rejoining to form H2. Some gets away from the Sun and is cosmic rays.

    But H2 is an Atom and H is a fleeting subatomic particle.

    So can I prove Water is H4O from the data of Spectral lines of H2 is the same as deuterium, only slight difference is that the deuterium is a full fledged neutron not a makeshift proton+muon of H.

    I suspect that special trait of water freezing is a proof that Water is H4O. Because the 840MeV proton torus with muon inside doing the Faraday law acting as a makeshift neutron capacitor for the other 840MeV proton torus with muon inside,
    is where H2 gets that expansion characteristic.

    A neutron is a parallel plate capacitor and those plates can expand when frozen temperature occurs. As the temperature gets colder, those plates move further apart.

    Now does deuterium which truly has a full neutron, does it expand also when frozen?? If so, does it expand as much as H2 which is 2 protons with 2 muons inside?

    So comparing the freezing and expansion of the parallel plates of a neutron in deuterium with the freezing and expansion of one of the proton+muon that is acting as a makeshift neutron in H2.

    If I can numbers correlate the H2 expansion with the Deuterium expansion would be a alternative proof that Water is really H4O and not H2O.

    AP
    to
    So now on Blankenship's book "Molecular Mechanisms of Photosynthesis", 2014, page 134, shows The structure of ATP, ADP, AMP. And within that structure are OH hydroxyls.

    In New Chemistry, water is truly H4O, and where hydroxyls are now H2O. And we have first proof of this in the Figure 8.1 of Blankenship's "Chemical structure of ATP".

    For in the lower left corner of the diagram, Blankenship has a H+ all alone, (really a mindless error) and has P surrounded by O-, O-, O and OH. The OH is really H2O for hydroxyls are H2O and water itself is H4O, and that would leave that
    mindless H+ as being hydrogen Atom of H2.

    The world of physics and chemistry should drop what they are doing and weigh the electrolysis test tube of hydrogen and oxygen to discover the correct true formula of water is H4O.

    AP is total confident, becuase an Atom cannot exist if it has no capacitor structure such as a neutron, or one of the H in H2 acting as a neutron. I am totally confident that Water formula is truly H4O. And I need look only to methane of
    H4C, to realize that there is no HC, no H2C, no H3C, but starts with H4C, and that tells me water starts with H4O. Totally confident that Old Chemistry, Old Physics did electrolysis experiments and the moment they saw hydrogen test tube be 2x volume of
    oxygen test tube, they dropped their work and went out for a Danish and coffee break, rather than finish their work--- actual physics weighing of atomic mass units (not the Faraday electrolysis law for it does not apply to water).

    When water electrolysis is physics weighed, AP is confident that there are 4H per every one oxygen O. And that Water is truly H4O.

    AP, King of Science
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    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 8:56:57 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within the accuracy I need for weighing a test tube of oxygen then a test tube of hydrogen from water electrolysis.

    Now modern day physics and chemist experimenters can really do a marvelous job if they wanted to. For they could freeze the test tubes of oxygen and hydrogen to where they are liquid and compare liquids from water electrolysis.
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    to
    So, what AP is saying here is that we do electrolysis of water. We collect the two test tubes, one with oxygen the other with hydrogen.

    To prove Water is truly the formula H4O and not H2O we must weigh the masses of the two tubes to find that the ratio is 1 x 16amu to 4 x 1amu.

    The silly grotesque science error of the past was to look at volumes in the two test tubes-- "Hey-- the hydrogen is twice the volume of oxygen so the formula of water is H2O".

    No, way was that science good practice. For the correct formula of water needs to be measured by mass, by atomic mass units where Oxygen is 16amu and hydrogen is 1amu.

    I suspect a balance beam scale is good enough to see the hydrogen test tube will be 1/4 as massive as the oxygen test tube. To get within precision of electronic weighing scale of 0.00001 gram we just have to make a larger test tube of
    electrolysis of water.

    AP is betting that the readings will be hydrogen test tube 1/4 the mass of oxygen test tube proving Water formula is truly H4O.

    Old Physics and Old Chemistry is betting that the mass experiment will have the hydrogen test tube be 1/8 the mass of the oxygen test tube, proving Water formula is H2O.

    AP does not have these precision equipment to conduct an at-home experiment of this nature.

    AP
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    So, once Water is found to actually be H4O, not H2O, we move on to methane, and ask the same question of its hydrogen bonds. Is Methane really that of H8C and not H4C.

    Well, looking in the literature for anomalies to methane, I come across a arXiv "Low and high-temperature anomalies in the physical properties of solid methane "The anomalous behavior of thermodynamic, spectral, plastic, elastic and some
    other properties of solid methane is discussed near 20.48K and...

    AP wonders: if they can get methane to solid form, well, I am then hopeful that the mass of the molecule can be determined. Because if methane is truly H8C, that difference of H4 in atomic mass units would be very much noticeable difference.


    Chemistry Europe--
    "The Anomalous Deuterium Isotope Effect in the NMR Spectrum of Methane...

    P Vermeeren, 2023
    "The abnormally long and weak methylidyne C-H bond.."
    "The C-H bond of the methylidyne radical, CH*, is abnormally long and weak, even longer and..."

    AP asks, are these anomalies solved if we consider methane is actually H8C and not H4C?

    AP


    My 250th published book.

    TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY; H2 is the hydrogen Atom and water is H4O, not H2O// Chemistry
    by Archimedes Plutonium (Author) (Amazon's Kindle)
    Prologue: This textbook is 1/2 research history and 1/2 factual textbook combined as one textbook. For many of the experiments described here-in have not yet been performed, such as water is really H4O not H2O. Written in a style of history
    research with date-time markers, and fact telling. And there are no problem sets. This book is intended for 1st year college. Until I include problem sets and exercises, I leave it to the professor and instructor to provide such. And also, chemistry is
    hugely a laboratory science, even more so than physics, so a first year college student in the lab to test whether Water is really H4O and not H2O is mighty educational.

    Preface: This is my 250th book of science, and the first of my textbooks on Teaching True Chemistry. I have completed the Teaching True Physics and the Teaching True Mathematics textbook series. But had not yet started on a Teaching True
    Chemistry textbook series. What got me started on this project is the fact that no chemistry textbook had the correct formula for water which is actually H4O and not H2O. Leaving the true formula for hydroxyl groups as H2O and not OH. But none of this is
    possible in Old Chemistry, Old Physics where they had do-nothing subatomic particles that sit around and do nothing or go whizzing around the outside of balls in a nucleus, in a mindless circling. Once every subatomic particle has a job, task, function,
    then water cannot be H2O but rather H4O. And a hydrogen atom cannot be H alone but is actually H2. H2 is not a molecule of hydrogen but a full fledged Atom, a single atom of hydrogen.

    Cover Picture: Sorry for the crude sketch work but chemistry and physics students are going to have to learn to make such sketches in a minute or less. Just as they make Lewis diagrams or ball & stick diagrams. My 4-5 minute sketch-work of the
    Water molecule H4O plus the subatomic particle H, and the hydrogen atom H2. Showing how one H is a proton torus with muon inside (blue color) doing the Faraday law. Protons are toruses with many windings. Protons are the coils in Faraday law while muons
    are the bar magnets. Neutrons are the capacitors as parallel plates, the outer skin cover of atoms.

    Product details
    • ASIN ‏ : ‎ B0CCLPTBDG
    • Publication date ‏ : ‎ July 21, 2023
    • Language ‏ : ‎ English
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    • Screen Reader ‏ : ‎ Supported
    • Enhanced typesetting ‏ : ‎ Enabled
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    Can_Dr.Christopher Eisgruber,Dr.Michael Aizenman,Dr.Philip Anderson,MitchR - -PLEASE--step into Princeton University physics or chemistry lab and weigh the mass of Electrolysis Water, proving Water is H4O not H2O. AP's homegrown lab cannot do the fine
    tuning experiment of weighing a test tube of electrolyzed hydrogen and oxygen from water. If AP is correct Water is really H4O, not H2O. My weighing scale is puny and insufficient for the job at hand, 0.00001 gram or less of hydrogen and oxygen test
    tubes. If AP is correct the hydrogen is 1/4 the weight of oxygen, if mainstream chemistry, physics is correct the hydrogen is 1/8 in amu to oxygen.

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    +Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within

    +Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within

    3m views Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium


    Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within the accuracy I need for weighing a test tube of oxygen then a test tube of hydrogen from water electrolysis.


    Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium

    In Old Chemistry and Old Physics, their subatomic particles were do nothing and no function and no job particles that sit around as balls or whiz around the outside of balls doing nothing but pointless circling.

    In New Physics and New Chemistry-- All is Atom and Atoms are nothing but electricity and magnetism. Every subatomic particle has a job a function a purpose as to the Laws of Electromagnetism--- Faraday law, Coulomb law, Ampere law, Capacitor law.

    A proton is a torus of 840MeV with 840 windings, while the muon is the true electron of Atoms and is encased inside the proton torus thrusting through and producing electricity-- magnetic monopoles.

    The neutron of Atoms is a parallel plate capacitor storing the electricity of proton+muon and is skin cover on the outside of the proton torus in the form of parallel plates.

    Can hydrogen be a Atom if it is just a proton+muon? No, all atoms require to have a capacitor such as at least one neutron. Thus the Hydrogen Atom is H2 where you have 2 proton+muon where 1 of the 2 proton+muon acts like a neutron to the other
    proton+muon. Thus, water molecule is not H2O but rather is H4O.

    AP is waiting for experimental chemists and physicists to prove him correct that Water is H4O.

    In the meantime we have Hydroxyl which in Old Chemistry, especially Biology is OH, while AP says that is wrong and that is really H2O.

    Now glycerine is a hydroxyl with formula C3H8O3. And what I am thinking at this moment, is that hydroxyls will be an easier proof that Water is truly H4O, rather than wait for experimentalists to actually "weigh the electrolysis test tubes of
    oxygen and hydrogen".

    You see, with H4O as water, glycerine is C3(2 waters)O with an extra oxygen. If Water is H2O then glycerine is C3(4 waters) deficit O. It is missing an oxygen if water is H2O.

    The reason glycerine is so effective as a skin ointment is because it has glycerine, the extra O oxygen. If water were H2O, then glycerine would be a missing oxygen and not a skin lotion that works, but makes skin even more dry.

    Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium


    --- quoting in part from source-- Study.com ---
    Perhaps there is only two Faraday laws on Electrolysis. I am looking at the one that states: Faraday's first law of electrolysis relates the mass of a substance liberated (or deposited) at an electrode to the electric charge used (Q). A
    proportionality constant Z can be used:

    m = ZQ = (E/96485)(Q)

    m = mass, Q = total charge rewritten as Q = I*t amperes x time in seconds.

    This website gives an example: 5amps passed through molten Sodium Chloride for 3 hours. Calculate the mass of Sodium. E=23/1.

    m = (23/96485) (5) (3*60*60) approx 12.87 grams.

    --- end quoting in part from source-- Study.com ---

    Now has such a experiment been performed on Water to see how much atomic mass of hydrogen and of oxygen results??? If AP is correct, the formula of water is H4O, if Old Physics, Old Chemistry is correct the formula is H2O. So which is it???

    AP


    No, sorry no, Faraday's Law of Electrolysis is not going to tell the correct mass of hydrogen.

    Reading Wikipedia on Faraday's Electrolysis law.

    --- quoting Wikipedia ---
    A monovalent ion requires 1 electron for discharge, a divalent ion requires 2 electrons for discharge and so on. Thus, if x electrons flow,
    x/v atoms are discharged.

    So the mass m discharged is

    m= (xM)/vN_A) = (QM)/(eN_A *v) = (QM) / (vF)
    where
    N_A is the Avogadro constant;
    Q = xe is the total charge, equal to the number of electrons (x) times the elementary charge e;
    F is the Faraday constant.
    --- end quoting Wikipedia ---

    No, the Faraday law of Electrolysis will not work on water with a correct answer, because H is not an atom but H2 is an Atom. And where one of the proton+muon converts to being a neutron to the other proton+muon.

    So if Faraday's law of Electrolysis was applied to water, thinking it would deliver a true answer is mistaken because the one H converts to neutron.

    So it appears that we need to directly measure the test tube of oxygen and the test tube of hydrogen by a direct mass measurement.


    I doubt we can measure a test tube of hydrogen or test tube of oxygen, too small to determine the mass on some sort of weight scale.

    But here is a possible lucrative idea. We should be able to get pure deuterium water. Then run the electrolysis. Collect the test tubes.

    Now have some sort of balancing beam weight scale. Place the regular water of hydrogen test tube on one side, and place the deuterium water hydrogen test tube on other side. If they stay balanced, then AP is correct and Water is really H4O.

    Cosmic Rays from Sun

    90% of Sun's cosmic rays are 840MeV proton+muon inside = H. The hydrogen Atom is H2 where one of the H proton+muon converts to being a neutron.

    When these proton+muon hit Earth atmosphere, they can turn into pions and muons.

    I commented that H alone is a subatomic particle and that makes sense in the idea that Sun's cosmic rays are 90% these proton+muon.

    Now is interstellar hydrogen H2 and intergalactic hydrogen H2 formed when one H cosmic ray joins up with another H cosmic ray to form H2 atom?

    Is this how we get H2 in outer space? From the splitting apart of H2 into H cosmic rays?

    So how much of the Sun's hydrogen is H2 and how much is H ready to join with another H and reform back into H2. Probably little of the Sun's H is H alone, and the vast majority of the Sun's hydrogen is H2.

    How much deuterium in the Sun? And it is a higher percentage than the deuterium in water on Earth?

    Water is the only known non-metallic substance that expands when if freezes; its density decreases and it expands approximately 9% by volume. (Source: web Lunar and Planetary Institute)

    I have to wait for experimental chemists and physicists to weigh the mass of test tubes from electrolysis, as to the verdict-- water is H4O.

    But until that news comes in, I will look for other means of proof.

    So AP says that the H2 is not a molecule but is the hydrogen Atom itself, where one proton+muon converts to a neutron and capacitates the other proton+muon which undergo the Faraday law.

    There are subatomic particles of H in the form of Cosmic Rays from the Sun, but most of the Sun's hydrogen is H2, and flips back and forth from H to rejoining to form H2. Some gets away from the Sun and is cosmic rays.

    But H2 is an Atom and H is a fleeting subatomic particle.

    So can I prove Water is H4O from the data of Spectral lines of H2 is the same as deuterium, only slight difference is that the deuterium is a full fledged neutron not a makeshift proton+muon of H.

    I suspect that special trait of water freezing is a proof that Water is H4O. Because the 840MeV proton torus with muon inside doing the Faraday law acting as a makeshift neutron capacitor for the other 840MeV proton torus with muon inside, is
    where H2 gets that expansion characteristic.

    A neutron is a parallel plate capacitor and those plates can expand when frozen temperature occurs. As the temperature gets colder, those plates move further apart.

    Now does deuterium which truly has a full neutron, does it expand also when frozen?? If so, does it expand as much as H2 which is 2 protons with 2 muons inside?

    So comparing the freezing and expansion of the parallel plates of a neutron in deuterium with the freezing and expansion of one of the proton+muon that is acting as a makeshift neutron in H2.

    If I can numbers correlate the H2 expansion with the Deuterium expansion would be a alternative proof that Water is really H4O and not H2O.

    AP
    to
    So now on Blankenship's book "Molecular Mechanisms of Photosynthesis", 2014, page 134, shows The structure of ATP, ADP, AMP. And within that structure are OH hydroxyls.

    In New Chemistry, water is truly H4O, and where hydroxyls are now H2O. And we have first proof of this in the Figure 8.1 of Blankenship's "Chemical structure of ATP".

    For in the lower left corner of the diagram, Blankenship has a H+ all alone, (really a mindless error) and has P surrounded by O-, O-, O and OH. The OH is really H2O for hydroxyls are H2O and water itself is H4O, and that would leave that
    mindless H+ as being hydrogen Atom of H2.

    The world of physics and chemistry should drop what they are doing and weigh the electrolysis test tube of hydrogen and oxygen to discover the correct true formula of water is H4O.

    AP is total confident, becuase an Atom cannot exist if it has no capacitor structure such as a neutron, or one of the H in H2 acting as a neutron. I am totally confident that Water formula is truly H4O. And I need look only to methane of H4C, to
    realize that there is no HC, no H2C, no H3C, but starts with H4C, and that tells me water starts with H4O. Totally confident that Old Chemistry, Old Physics did electrolysis experiments and the moment they saw hydrogen test tube be 2x volume of oxygen
    test tube, they dropped their work and went out for a Danish and coffee break, rather than finish their work--- actual physics weighing of atomic mass units (not the Faraday electrolysis law for it does not apply to water).

    When water electrolysis is physics weighed, AP is confident that there are 4H per every one oxygen O. And that Water is truly H4O.


    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 8:56:57 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within the accuracy I need for weighing a test tube of oxygen then a test tube of hydrogen from water electrolysis.

    Now modern day physics and chemist experimenters can really do a marvelous job if they wanted to. For they could freeze the test tubes of oxygen and hydrogen to where they are liquid and compare liquids from water electrolysis.

    So, what AP is saying here is that we do electrolysis of water. We collect the two test tubes, one with oxygen the other with hydrogen.

    To prove Water is truly the formula H4O and not H2O we must weigh the masses of the two tubes to find that the ratio is 1 x 16amu to 4 x 1amu.

    The silly grotesque science error of the past was to look at volumes in the two test tubes-- "Hey-- the hydrogen is twice the volume of oxygen so the formula of water is H2O".

    No, way was that science good practice. For the correct formula of water needs to be measured by mass, by atomic mass units where Oxygen is 16amu and hydrogen is 1amu.

    I suspect a balance beam scale is good enough to see the hydrogen test tube will be 1/4 as massive as the oxygen test tube. To get within precision of electronic weighing scale of 0.00001 gram we just have to make a larger test tube of
    electrolysis of water.

    AP is betting that the readings will be hydrogen test tube 1/4 the mass of oxygen test tube proving Water formula is truly H4O.

    Old Physics and Old Chemistry is betting that the mass experiment will have the hydrogen test tube be 1/8 the mass of the oxygen test tube, proving Water formula is H2O.

    AP does not have these precision equipment to conduct an at-home experiment of this nature.

    So, once Water is found to actually be H4O, not H2O, we move on to methane, and ask the same question of its hydrogen bonds. Is Methane really that of H8C and not H4C.

    Well, looking in the literature for anomalies to methane, I come across a arXiv "Low and high-temperature anomalies in the physical properties of solid methane "The anomalous behavior of thermodynamic, spectral, plastic, elastic and some other
    properties of solid methane is discussed near 20.48K and...

    AP wonders: if they can get methane to solid form, well, I am then hopeful that the mass of the molecule can be determined. Because if methane is truly H8C, that difference of H4 in atomic mass units would be very much noticeable difference.

    Chemistry Europe--
    "The Anomalous Deuterium Isotope Effect in the NMR Spectrum of Methane...

    P Vermeeren, 2023
    "The abnormally long and weak methylidyne C-H bond.."
    "The C-H bond of the methylidyne radical, CH*, is abnormally long and weak, even longer and..."

    AP asks, are these anomalies solved if we consider methane is actually H8C and not H4C?

    AP


    My 250th published book.

    TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY; H2 is the hydrogen Atom and water is H4O, not H2O// Chemistry
    by Archimedes Plutonium (Author) (Amazon's Kindle)
    Prologue: This textbook is 1/2 research history and 1/2 factual textbook combined as one textbook. For many of the experiments described here-in have not yet been performed, such as water is really H4O not H2O. Written in a style of history research
    with date-time markers, and fact telling. And there are no problem sets. This book is intended for 1st year college. Until I include problem sets and exercises, I leave it to the professor and instructor to provide such. And also, chemistry is hugely a
    laboratory science, even more so than physics, so a first year college student in the lab to test whether Water is really H4O and not H2O is mighty educational.

    Preface: This is my 250th book of science, and the first of my textbooks on Teaching True Chemistry. I have completed the Teaching True Physics and the Teaching True Mathematics textbook series. But had not yet started on a Teaching True Chemistry
    textbook series. What got me started on this project is the fact that no chemistry textbook had the correct formula for water which is actually H4O and not H2O. Leaving the true formula for hydroxyl groups as H2O and not OH. But none of this is possible
    in Old Chemistry, Old Physics where they had do-nothing subatomic particles that sit around and do nothing or go whizzing around the outside of balls in a nucleus, in a mindless circling. Once every subatomic particle has a job, task, function, then
    water cannot be H2O but rather H4O. And a hydrogen atom cannot be H alone but is actually H2. H2 is not a molecule of hydrogen but a full fledged Atom, a single atom of hydrogen.

    Cover Picture: Sorry for the crude sketch work but chemistry and physics students are going to have to learn to make such sketches in a minute or less. Just as they make Lewis diagrams or ball & stick diagrams. My 4-5 minute sketch-work of the Water
    molecule H4O plus the subatomic particle H, and the hydrogen atom H2. Showing how one H is a proton torus with muon inside (blue color) doing the Faraday law. Protons are toruses with many windings. Protons are the coils in Faraday law while muons are
    the bar magnets. Neutrons are the capacitors as parallel plates, the outer skin cover of atoms.

    Product details
    • ASIN ‏ : ‎ B0CCLPTBDG
    • Publication date ‏ : ‎ July 21, 2023
    • Language ‏ : ‎ English
    • File size ‏ : ‎ 788 KB
    • Text-to-Speech ‏ : ‎ Enabled
    • Screen Reader ‏ : ‎ Supported
    • Enhanced typesetting ‏ : ‎ Enabled
    • X-Ray ‏ : ‎ Not Enabled
    • Word Wise ‏ : ‎ Enabled
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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Mon Aug 28 13:31:15 2023
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 2:42:06 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 22 August 2023 at 20:50:55 UTC+10, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 7:00 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 6:58 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/6/2023 11:14 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    I don't know why you'd bring up energy-mass equivalence here.


    Sorry I've perhaps got other reasons as well to be pissed.
    Or perhaps I can make a concise form of the gist of what I said for posterity.

    Three examples:

    Distance is not "equivalent" to time. A factor of speed is tied in the relation it has with time, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Momentum is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of speed is tied in the relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Kinetic energy is not "equivalent" to momentum. An additional factor of speed is tied in the relation it has with momentum, which cannot be
    taken as just a number.

    And likewise, energy is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of not just speed of light, but a second degree speed of light, is tied in the relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number, regardless of the latter seemingly exhibiting the same value in measurements.

    In none of the statements above, you should mistake such realities with the "math" expressions of them in your head. Math has nothing to do with those realities. They are facts of nature, in and of themselves, with or without the tools of math at your disposal. Don't get them mixed up with the math form of their expressions you see on the paper!

    If someone is using the phrase, "energy-mass equivalence", he is just blabbering nonsense. He is trashing the existence of light and the
    feature of speed of it two times over. How can one trash that so easily?

    A Cro-Magnon human obviously can! But so what? Who cares? Cause human, Modern Human, does not trash the light and its speed in that
    relationship that energy and mass have with each other, TWO TIMES OVER.
    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
    Esteemed fools - the whodumbos, that is - have no clue about the basic meaning of algebra, although they apply it for their nefarious purposes.

    "Whodumbo" is kind of not enough of a word, guy.

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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Rubard on Fri Sep 1 08:31:38 2023
    On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 1:31:19 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 2:42:06 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 22 August 2023 at 20:50:55 UTC+10, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 7:00 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 6:58 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/6/2023 11:14 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    I don't know why you'd bring up energy-mass equivalence here.


    Sorry I've perhaps got other reasons as well to be pissed.
    Or perhaps I can make a concise form of the gist of what I said for posterity.

    Three examples:

    Distance is not "equivalent" to time. A factor of speed is tied in the relation it has with time, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Momentum is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of speed is tied in the relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Kinetic energy is not "equivalent" to momentum. An additional factor of speed is tied in the relation it has with momentum, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    And likewise, energy is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of not just speed of light, but a second degree speed of light, is tied in the relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number, regardless of the latter seemingly exhibiting the same value in measurements.

    In none of the statements above, you should mistake such realities with the "math" expressions of them in your head. Math has nothing to do with those realities. They are facts of nature, in and of themselves, with or without the tools of math at your disposal. Don't get them mixed up with the math form of their expressions you see on the paper!

    If someone is using the phrase, "energy-mass equivalence", he is just blabbering nonsense. He is trashing the existence of light and the feature of speed of it two times over. How can one trash that so easily?

    A Cro-Magnon human obviously can! But so what? Who cares? Cause human, Modern Human, does not trash the light and its speed in that relationship that energy and mass have with each other, TWO TIMES OVER. --
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
    Esteemed fools - the whodumbos, that is - have no clue about the basic meaning of algebra, although they apply it for their nefarious purposes.
    "Whodumbo" is kind of not enough of a word, guy.

    "You see, it means..."
    That's "leading argumentation", even if the verbal definition were to be correct.

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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Rubard on Fri Sep 1 12:15:27 2023
    On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:31:42 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 1:31:19 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 2:42:06 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 22 August 2023 at 20:50:55 UTC+10, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 7:00 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 6:58 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/6/2023 11:14 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    I don't know why you'd bring up energy-mass equivalence here.


    Sorry I've perhaps got other reasons as well to be pissed.
    Or perhaps I can make a concise form of the gist of what I said for posterity.

    Three examples:

    Distance is not "equivalent" to time. A factor of speed is tied in the relation it has with time, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Momentum is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of speed is tied in the relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Kinetic energy is not "equivalent" to momentum. An additional factor of
    speed is tied in the relation it has with momentum, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    And likewise, energy is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of not just speed of light, but a second degree speed of light, is tied in the relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number, regardless of the latter seemingly exhibiting the same value in measurements.

    In none of the statements above, you should mistake such realities with
    the "math" expressions of them in your head. Math has nothing to do with
    those realities. They are facts of nature, in and of themselves, with or
    without the tools of math at your disposal. Don't get them mixed up with
    the math form of their expressions you see on the paper!

    If someone is using the phrase, "energy-mass equivalence", he is just blabbering nonsense. He is trashing the existence of light and the feature of speed of it two times over. How can one trash that so easily?

    A Cro-Magnon human obviously can! But so what? Who cares? Cause human, Modern Human, does not trash the light and its speed in that relationship that energy and mass have with each other, TWO TIMES OVER.
    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
    Esteemed fools - the whodumbos, that is - have no clue about the basic meaning of algebra, although they apply it for their nefarious purposes.
    "Whodumbo" is kind of not enough of a word, guy.
    "You see, it means..."
    That's "leading argumentation", even if the verbal definition were to be correct.

    "You're a whodumbo."
    What are the "assertion conditions" for the truth or falsity of the sentence?

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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Rubard on Fri Sep 1 16:01:49 2023
    On Tuesday, 29 August 2023 at 06:31:19 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 2:42:06 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 22 August 2023 at 20:50:55 UTC+10, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 7:00 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 6:58 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/6/2023 11:14 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    I don't know why you'd bring up energy-mass equivalence here.


    Sorry I've perhaps got other reasons as well to be pissed.
    Or perhaps I can make a concise form of the gist of what I said for posterity.

    Three examples:

    Distance is not "equivalent" to time. A factor of speed is tied in the relation it has with time, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Momentum is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of speed is tied in the relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Kinetic energy is not "equivalent" to momentum. An additional factor of speed is tied in the relation it has with momentum, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    And likewise, energy is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of not just speed of light, but a second degree speed of light, is tied in the relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number, regardless of the latter seemingly exhibiting the same value in measurements.

    In none of the statements above, you should mistake such realities with the "math" expressions of them in your head. Math has nothing to do with those realities. They are facts of nature, in and of themselves, with or without the tools of math at your disposal. Don't get them mixed up with the math form of their expressions you see on the paper!

    If someone is using the phrase, "energy-mass equivalence", he is just blabbering nonsense. He is trashing the existence of light and the feature of speed of it two times over. How can one trash that so easily?

    A Cro-Magnon human obviously can! But so what? Who cares? Cause human, Modern Human, does not trash the light and its speed in that relationship that energy and mass have with each other, TWO TIMES OVER. --
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
    Esteemed fools - the whodumbos, that is - have no clue about the basic meaning of algebra, although they apply it for their nefarious purposes.
    "Whodumbo" is kind of not enough of a word, guy.

    Okay, so let me elaborate.

    Whodumbo: very small person; arsehole; cheat, fraud, liar, slimy with base cunning; pretentious; opportunistic; cold, heartless, soulless; fake; projecting windbag; pig-headed; money-minded; useless; wasteful of others' money; deeply prejudiced; racist;
    bigoted; schizophrenic; bully; corrupt to the core institutionalized e=mcc chanting cowardly cretin.

    Thus, contains excellent base material for being successful professors, politicians, pimps, physicists, presstitutes and prostitutes in our degraded anti-Arindam age.

    Enough?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to Timothy Golden on Fri Sep 1 17:23:00 2023
    On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 12:09:44 PM UTC-5, Timothy Golden wrote:
    On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 3:41:45 AM UTC-4, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    Well we had 3 days of scorching heat from a heat dome over the Plains of 40 degrees Celsius. Due for another hot one on thursday. But I am more worried for rain. My lilac leaves started turning black and now watering them.

    Yes, the central USA is inevitably going to be a Sahara like desert. Farming will have to rely more and more on irrigation from the major rivers.

    With an ever increasing warm Earth, the Jet Stream just does not allow the interior of continents enough rainfall. And drops the rain on the coasts as storms at sea batter into the coastline.

    Once I moved out West again in 1999, I had no, no idea that rainfall would become the major issue, the major problem. Of course, if I had remained in New Hampshire, it would not even come on the radar screen of my mind as a problem. No, I cannot
    stomach 1/2 of the year being a gigantic worry of water for plants. The inevitable science of Sun gone Red Giant Phase. Of course I had no idea of that in 1999. Only after 2017 was I aware of Sun gone Red Giant. And here it is 2023, with 4 years in a row
    of drought.

    Between drought and grasshoppers, my asparagus and rhubard are almost gone.

    Many of my hazelnuts are half dead.

    Hard to absorb for someone who loves plants.

    AP
    Hi Archie. Been scanning your journal here. Meanwhile here in the northeast (central NH) we have had the coolest and wettest summer that I can remember. And we've been virtually stuck in it all summer long; just at the central states are stuck in the
    high pressure loop. Who knew climate change would involve jet stream stability?

    You need to start considering that Sun and stars shine not from fusion but from Faraday law inside every proton of that star.

    This is 1Sept2023 and 2023 ends up being another full scale drought. No rain in the last weeks of August and none in sight for the next 2 weeks, means no rain for over a month.

    I am reduced to being a water boy once again.

    And my water bill will skyrocket 5X over last month.

    I hope the governor of South Dakota has started to lay plans to reacquire the Missouri River for irrigation farming.

    In the future, there will be no summer rainfall, and if you do not have irrigation from the Missouri River, the only thing you can grow are cacti.

    Can you eat cacti????

    The La Nina lasted for a few months and then the ugly El Nino came back.

    I do not know for certain that Rainfall is Zero Sum Game. So that flooding around the world is rain that should have fallen on Western USA. Not certain because I do not know to what extent the tidal flooding is saltwater.

    Still on course to sell out and move to Seattle where I can be near the Ocean and plenty of rain before I die. Still on course....

    AP, King of Science

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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Sat Sep 2 08:24:51 2023
    On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 4:01:53 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 29 August 2023 at 06:31:19 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 2:42:06 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 22 August 2023 at 20:50:55 UTC+10, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 7:00 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 6:58 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/6/2023 11:14 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    I don't know why you'd bring up energy-mass equivalence here.


    Sorry I've perhaps got other reasons as well to be pissed.
    Or perhaps I can make a concise form of the gist of what I said for posterity.

    Three examples:

    Distance is not "equivalent" to time. A factor of speed is tied in the relation it has with time, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Momentum is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of speed is tied in the relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Kinetic energy is not "equivalent" to momentum. An additional factor of
    speed is tied in the relation it has with momentum, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    And likewise, energy is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of not just speed of light, but a second degree speed of light, is tied in the relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number, regardless of the latter seemingly exhibiting the same value in measurements.

    In none of the statements above, you should mistake such realities with
    the "math" expressions of them in your head. Math has nothing to do with
    those realities. They are facts of nature, in and of themselves, with or
    without the tools of math at your disposal. Don't get them mixed up with
    the math form of their expressions you see on the paper!

    If someone is using the phrase, "energy-mass equivalence", he is just blabbering nonsense. He is trashing the existence of light and the feature of speed of it two times over. How can one trash that so easily?

    A Cro-Magnon human obviously can! But so what? Who cares? Cause human, Modern Human, does not trash the light and its speed in that relationship that energy and mass have with each other, TWO TIMES OVER.
    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
    Esteemed fools - the whodumbos, that is - have no clue about the basic meaning of algebra, although they apply it for their nefarious purposes.
    "Whodumbo" is kind of not enough of a word, guy.
    Okay, so let me elaborate.

    Whodumbo: very small person; arsehole; cheat, fraud, liar, slimy with base cunning; pretentious; opportunistic; cold, heartless, soulless; fake; projecting windbag; pig-headed; money-minded; useless; wasteful of others' money; deeply prejudiced; racist;
    bigoted; schizophrenic; bully; corrupt to the core institutionalized e=mcc chanting cowardly cretin.


    "You're really just not that smart, dude."

    Thus, contains excellent base material for being successful professors, politicians, pimps, physicists, presstitutes and prostitutes in our degraded anti-Arindam age.

    "Presstitutes": would be a clever coinage, but isn't. "Keep working on it."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Rubard on Sat Sep 2 14:16:32 2023
    On Sunday, 3 September 2023 at 01:24:56 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 4:01:53 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 29 August 2023 at 06:31:19 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 2:42:06 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 22 August 2023 at 20:50:55 UTC+10, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 7:00 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 6:58 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/6/2023 11:14 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    I don't know why you'd bring up energy-mass equivalence here.


    Sorry I've perhaps got other reasons as well to be pissed.
    Or perhaps I can make a concise form of the gist of what I said for posterity.

    Three examples:

    Distance is not "equivalent" to time. A factor of speed is tied in the
    relation it has with time, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Momentum is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of speed is tied in the
    relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Kinetic energy is not "equivalent" to momentum. An additional factor of
    speed is tied in the relation it has with momentum, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    And likewise, energy is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of not just
    speed of light, but a second degree speed of light, is tied in the relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number, regardless of the latter seemingly exhibiting the same value in measurements.

    In none of the statements above, you should mistake such realities with
    the "math" expressions of them in your head. Math has nothing to do with
    those realities. They are facts of nature, in and of themselves, with or
    without the tools of math at your disposal. Don't get them mixed up with
    the math form of their expressions you see on the paper!

    If someone is using the phrase, "energy-mass equivalence", he is just
    blabbering nonsense. He is trashing the existence of light and the feature of speed of it two times over. How can one trash that so easily?

    A Cro-Magnon human obviously can! But so what? Who cares? Cause human,
    Modern Human, does not trash the light and its speed in that relationship that energy and mass have with each other, TWO TIMES OVER.
    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com
    Esteemed fools - the whodumbos, that is - have no clue about the basic meaning of algebra, although they apply it for their nefarious purposes.
    "Whodumbo" is kind of not enough of a word, guy.
    Okay, so let me elaborate.

    Whodumbo: very small person; arsehole; cheat, fraud, liar, slimy with base cunning; pretentious; opportunistic; cold, heartless, soulless; fake; projecting windbag; pig-headed; money-minded; useless; wasteful of others' money; deeply prejudiced;
    racist; bigoted; schizophrenic; bully; corrupt to the core institutionalized e=mcc chanting cowardly cretin.

    "You're really just not that smart, dude."
    I have not your headless chicken thought styles. That is, as headless, brainless. Sad. Evidently that is the most to be got for me from the US establishments. More sad. Whodumbos rule there in glory with all their meanness and stupidities, creating
    flapping entities.

    Thus, contains excellent base material for being successful professors, politicians, pimps, physicists, presstitutes and prostitutes in our degraded anti-Arindam age.
    "Presstitutes": would be a clever coinage, but isn't. "Keep working on it."
    It is a common word now.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to Volney on Sun Sep 3 00:04:21 2023
    Volney on.. CalTech_Dr.Barry Barish,Dr.David Goodstein,Dr.Frances Arnold (chem),Dr.Rudolph Marcus (chem), Dr.Hugh Politzer NSF Dr.Panchanathan,Alejandro Adem, shithead oaf of math,Purdue Univ_France Cordova, howling crazy fuckdog

    On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 12:31:40 AM UTC-5, Volney wrote: >"illogical"
    "shithead oaf of math> fails at math and science:

    Why Volney?? Because they are so sloppy and slipshod in Physics experiment of Water Electrolysis, stopping and ceasing the experiment before weighing the mass of the hydrogen compared to mass of oxygen. And to think, Caltech discovered the muon, but
    cannot even finish water electrolysis.

    Volney's physics morons CalTech_Dr.Frances Arnold (chem), Dr.Barry Barish, Dr.Rudolph Marcus (chem), Dr.Hugh Politzer NSF Dr.Panchanathan,Alejandro Adem, Purdue Univ_France Cordova, howling crazy fuckdog

    On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 11:38:41 AM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    "Court Jester of Physics"
    "howling crazy fuckdog> fails at math and science:

    Volney is the NSF staff and CalTech physics department a leftover relic of too many Dunning-Kruger on staff before Roberts Supreme Court overturned it. And now Dunning-Kruger physicists and Dunning-Kruger Dr. Panchanathan are in jeopardy of their Dunning-
    Kruger view of science???

    Why Volney?? Because they stop short of completing the Water Electrolysis Experiment by only looking at volume, when they are meant to weigh the mass of hydrogen versus oxygen?? Such shoddy minds in experimental physics and chemistry.

    CalTech math dept

    Michael Aschbacher, Alexei Borodin, Danny Calegari
    Matthias Flach, Anton N. Kapustin, Alexander Kechris
    Alexei Kitaev, Matilde Marcolli, Nikolai Makarov, Vladimir Markovic, Hiroshi Oguri, Eric Rains, Dinakar Ramakrishnan
    Barry Simon, Richard Wilson, Tom Graber, Sergei Gukov,
    Elena Mantovan, Yi NI,

    Caltech Physics Dept

    Felix Boehm, Steven Frautschi
    Murray Gell-Mann, David Goodstein, Thomas Phillips,
    John Schwarz, Barry Simon, Kip Thorne, Petr Vogel,
    Rochus Vogt, Ward Whaling, Michael E. Brown,
    Konstantin Batygin, Dr.Frances Arnold (chem), Dr.Barry Barish, Dr.Rudolph Marcus (chem), Dr.Hugh Politzer



    3-Volney on NSF Dr.Panchanathan on Purdue Dr. France Cordova "Drag Queen of Science" "irrelevant" Why Volney?? Is it because Dr.Panchanathan is a math failure with his slant cut of cone a ellipse, when in reality it is a oval

    Kibo on..NSF Rebecca Lynn Keiser,Dunning-Kruger Arden Lee Bement Jr. Fuckhole Dr.Panchanathan of science

    On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 8:18:48 PM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    "Drag Queen of Science"
    "irrelevant"

    On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 5:58:25 PM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    "the FUCKHOLE of math"
    On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 11:28:58 PM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    "Kim Jong Un's stooge"

    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 12:08:44 AM UTC-5, Volney wrote:
    is *always* wrong.

    Kibo, Volney, does Dr. Panchanathan remind you of Dr. Silberman in the Terminator movies--rock hard insanity

    Re: kibo-Parry-Moroney, the FUCKHOLE of sci.math, sci.physics
    By Richard Tobin Jul 4, 2019, 9:45:05 AM

    Re: Kibo Parry M sickfuck stalker along with his Dunning Kruger sickfuck psychologists who guide Kibo// Kibo claims that Ruth Charney, Dr. Panchanathan, Andrew Wiles, Terence Tao, Sheldon Glashow never had a single truth in their entire life, says Kibo
    Dec 31, 2022, 8:51 PM
    by Herp Derpington

    Kibo Parry Moron-Volney blowing his cover with the CIA in 1997
    Re: Archimedes Vanadium, America's most beloved poster
    On Sunday, June 8, 1997 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-5, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    In article <5nefan$i06$[email protected]> kibo greps <[email protected]> writes:



    ---quoting Wikipedia ---
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    Many government and university installations blocked, threatened to block, or attempted to shut-down The World's Internet connection until Software Tool & Die was eventually granted permission by the National Science Foundation to provide public Internet
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    France Anne Cordova
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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Sun Sep 3 13:35:58 2023
    On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 2:16:36 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Sunday, 3 September 2023 at 01:24:56 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 4:01:53 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 29 August 2023 at 06:31:19 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 2:42:06 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 22 August 2023 at 20:50:55 UTC+10, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 7:00 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 6:58 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/6/2023 11:14 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    I don't know why you'd bring up energy-mass equivalence here. >>

    Sorry I've perhaps got other reasons as well to be pissed.
    Or perhaps I can make a concise form of the gist of what I said for
    posterity.

    Three examples:

    Distance is not "equivalent" to time. A factor of speed is tied in the
    relation it has with time, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Momentum is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of speed is tied in the
    relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Kinetic energy is not "equivalent" to momentum. An additional factor of
    speed is tied in the relation it has with momentum, which cannot be
    taken as just a number.

    And likewise, energy is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of not just
    speed of light, but a second degree speed of light, is tied in the relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number, regardless of the latter seemingly exhibiting the same value in measurements.

    In none of the statements above, you should mistake such realities with
    the "math" expressions of them in your head. Math has nothing to do with
    those realities. They are facts of nature, in and of themselves, with or
    without the tools of math at your disposal. Don't get them mixed up with
    the math form of their expressions you see on the paper!

    If someone is using the phrase, "energy-mass equivalence", he is just
    blabbering nonsense. He is trashing the existence of light and the feature of speed of it two times over. How can one trash that so easily?

    A Cro-Magnon human obviously can! But so what? Who cares? Cause human,
    Modern Human, does not trash the light and its speed in that relationship that energy and mass have with each other, TWO TIMES OVER.
    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
    www.avast.com
    Esteemed fools - the whodumbos, that is - have no clue about the basic meaning of algebra, although they apply it for their nefarious purposes.
    "Whodumbo" is kind of not enough of a word, guy.
    Okay, so let me elaborate.

    Whodumbo: very small person; arsehole; cheat, fraud, liar, slimy with base cunning; pretentious; opportunistic; cold, heartless, soulless; fake; projecting windbag; pig-headed; money-minded; useless; wasteful of others' money; deeply prejudiced;
    racist; bigoted; schizophrenic; bully; corrupt to the core institutionalized e=mcc chanting cowardly cretin.

    "You're really just not that smart, dude."
    I have not your headless chicken thought styles. That is, as headless, brainless. Sad. Evidently that is the most to be got for me from the US establishments. More sad. Whodumbos rule there in glory with all their meanness and stupidities, creating
    flapping entities.

    "Dude, maybe you need to stay off the drugs."

    Thus, contains excellent base material for being successful professors, politicians, pimps, physicists, presstitutes and prostitutes in our degraded anti-Arindam age.
    "Presstitutes": would be a clever coinage, but isn't. "Keep working on it."
    It is a common word now.

    "Is this an observation, or an order?"

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Rubard on Sun Sep 3 14:46:21 2023
    On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 06:36:02 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 2:16:36 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Sunday, 3 September 2023 at 01:24:56 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 4:01:53 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 29 August 2023 at 06:31:19 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 2:42:06 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 22 August 2023 at 20:50:55 UTC+10, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 7:00 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 6:58 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/6/2023 11:14 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    I don't know why you'd bring up energy-mass equivalence here.


    Sorry I've perhaps got other reasons as well to be pissed.
    Or perhaps I can make a concise form of the gist of what I said for
    posterity.

    Three examples:

    Distance is not "equivalent" to time. A factor of speed is tied in the
    relation it has with time, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Momentum is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of speed is tied in the
    relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Kinetic energy is not "equivalent" to momentum. An additional factor of
    speed is tied in the relation it has with momentum, which cannot be
    taken as just a number.

    And likewise, energy is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of not just
    speed of light, but a second degree speed of light, is tied in the
    relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number,
    regardless of the latter seemingly exhibiting the same value in measurements.

    In none of the statements above, you should mistake such realities with
    the "math" expressions of them in your head. Math has nothing to do with
    those realities. They are facts of nature, in and of themselves, with or
    without the tools of math at your disposal. Don't get them mixed up with
    the math form of their expressions you see on the paper!

    If someone is using the phrase, "energy-mass equivalence", he is just
    blabbering nonsense. He is trashing the existence of light and the
    feature of speed of it two times over. How can one trash that so easily?

    A Cro-Magnon human obviously can! But so what? Who cares? Cause human,
    Modern Human, does not trash the light and its speed in that relationship that energy and mass have with each other, TWO TIMES OVER.
    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
    www.avast.com
    Esteemed fools - the whodumbos, that is - have no clue about the basic meaning of algebra, although they apply it for their nefarious purposes.
    "Whodumbo" is kind of not enough of a word, guy.
    Okay, so let me elaborate.

    Whodumbo: very small person; arsehole; cheat, fraud, liar, slimy with base cunning; pretentious; opportunistic; cold, heartless, soulless; fake; projecting windbag; pig-headed; money-minded; useless; wasteful of others' money; deeply prejudiced;
    racist; bigoted; schizophrenic; bully; corrupt to the core institutionalized e=mcc chanting cowardly cretin.

    "You're really just not that smart, dude."
    I have not your headless chicken thought styles. That is, as headless, brainless. Sad. Evidently that is the most to be got for me from the US establishments. More sad. Whodumbos rule there in glory with all their meanness and stupidities, creating
    flapping entities.
    "Dude, maybe you need to stay off the drugs."
    I take no drugs. Don't project.
    Thus, contains excellent base material for being successful professors, politicians, pimps, physicists, presstitutes and prostitutes in our degraded anti-Arindam age.
    "Presstitutes": would be a clever coinage, but isn't. "Keep working on it."
    It is a common word now.
    "Is this an observation, or an order?"
    An observation.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Sun Sep 3 14:54:37 2023
    On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 2:46:25 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 06:36:02 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 2:16:36 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Sunday, 3 September 2023 at 01:24:56 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 4:01:53 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 29 August 2023 at 06:31:19 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 2:42:06 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 22 August 2023 at 20:50:55 UTC+10, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 7:00 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 6:58 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/6/2023 11:14 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    I don't know why you'd bring up energy-mass equivalence here.


    Sorry I've perhaps got other reasons as well to be pissed.
    Or perhaps I can make a concise form of the gist of what I said for
    posterity.

    Three examples:

    Distance is not "equivalent" to time. A factor of speed is tied in the
    relation it has with time, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Momentum is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of speed is tied in the
    relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Kinetic energy is not "equivalent" to momentum. An additional factor of
    speed is tied in the relation it has with momentum, which cannot be
    taken as just a number.

    And likewise, energy is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of not just
    speed of light, but a second degree speed of light, is tied in the
    relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number,
    regardless of the latter seemingly exhibiting the same value in
    measurements.

    In none of the statements above, you should mistake such realities with
    the "math" expressions of them in your head. Math has nothing to do with
    those realities. They are facts of nature, in and of themselves, with or
    without the tools of math at your disposal. Don't get them mixed up with
    the math form of their expressions you see on the paper!

    If someone is using the phrase, "energy-mass equivalence", he is just
    blabbering nonsense. He is trashing the existence of light and the
    feature of speed of it two times over. How can one trash that so easily?

    A Cro-Magnon human obviously can! But so what? Who cares? Cause human,
    Modern Human, does not trash the light and its speed in that relationship that energy and mass have with each other, TWO TIMES OVER.
    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
    www.avast.com
    Esteemed fools - the whodumbos, that is - have no clue about the basic meaning of algebra, although they apply it for their nefarious purposes.
    "Whodumbo" is kind of not enough of a word, guy.
    Okay, so let me elaborate.

    Whodumbo: very small person; arsehole; cheat, fraud, liar, slimy with base cunning; pretentious; opportunistic; cold, heartless, soulless; fake; projecting windbag; pig-headed; money-minded; useless; wasteful of others' money; deeply prejudiced;
    racist; bigoted; schizophrenic; bully; corrupt to the core institutionalized e=mcc chanting cowardly cretin.

    "You're really just not that smart, dude."
    I have not your headless chicken thought styles. That is, as headless, brainless. Sad. Evidently that is the most to be got for me from the US establishments. More sad. Whodumbos rule there in glory with all their meanness and stupidities, creating
    flapping entities.
    "Dude, maybe you need to stay off the drugs."
    I take no drugs. Don't project.

    It's an "elliptical" expression. More literally put, your wording is very unbalanced and poor in expressive meaning. It's *like* you're on drugs.

    Thus, contains excellent base material for being successful professors, politicians, pimps, physicists, presstitutes and prostitutes in our degraded anti-Arindam age.
    "Presstitutes": would be a clever coinage, but isn't. "Keep working on it."
    It is a common word now.
    "Is this an observation, or an order?"
    An observation.

    "I've never heard of that word."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Rubard on Sun Sep 3 16:28:36 2023
    On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 07:54:41 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 2:46:25 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 06:36:02 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 2:16:36 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Sunday, 3 September 2023 at 01:24:56 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 4:01:53 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 29 August 2023 at 06:31:19 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 2:42:06 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 22 August 2023 at 20:50:55 UTC+10, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 7:00 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 6:58 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/6/2023 11:14 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    I don't know why you'd bring up energy-mass equivalence here.


    Sorry I've perhaps got other reasons as well to be pissed.
    Or perhaps I can make a concise form of the gist of what I said for
    posterity.

    Three examples:

    Distance is not "equivalent" to time. A factor of speed is tied in the
    relation it has with time, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Momentum is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of speed is tied in the
    relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Kinetic energy is not "equivalent" to momentum. An additional factor of
    speed is tied in the relation it has with momentum, which cannot be
    taken as just a number.

    And likewise, energy is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of not just
    speed of light, but a second degree speed of light, is tied in the
    relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number,
    regardless of the latter seemingly exhibiting the same value in
    measurements.

    In none of the statements above, you should mistake such realities with
    the "math" expressions of them in your head. Math has nothing to do with
    those realities. They are facts of nature, in and of themselves, with or
    without the tools of math at your disposal. Don't get them mixed up with
    the math form of their expressions you see on the paper!

    If someone is using the phrase, "energy-mass equivalence", he is just
    blabbering nonsense. He is trashing the existence of light and the
    feature of speed of it two times over. How can one trash that so easily?

    A Cro-Magnon human obviously can! But so what? Who cares? Cause human,
    Modern Human, does not trash the light and its speed in that relationship that energy and mass have with each other, TWO TIMES OVER.
    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
    www.avast.com
    Esteemed fools - the whodumbos, that is - have no clue about the basic meaning of algebra, although they apply it for their nefarious purposes.
    "Whodumbo" is kind of not enough of a word, guy.
    Okay, so let me elaborate.

    Whodumbo: very small person; arsehole; cheat, fraud, liar, slimy with base cunning; pretentious; opportunistic; cold, heartless, soulless; fake; projecting windbag; pig-headed; money-minded; useless; wasteful of others' money; deeply
    prejudiced; racist; bigoted; schizophrenic; bully; corrupt to the core institutionalized e=mcc chanting cowardly cretin.

    "You're really just not that smart, dude."
    I have not your headless chicken thought styles. That is, as headless, brainless. Sad. Evidently that is the most to be got for me from the US establishments. More sad. Whodumbos rule there in glory with all their meanness and stupidities,
    creating flapping entities.
    "Dude, maybe you need to stay off the drugs."
    I take no drugs. Don't project.
    It's an "elliptical" expression. More literally put, your wording is very unbalanced and poor in expressive meaning. It's *like* you're on drugs.
    As usual, you are totally wrong.
    Thus, contains excellent base material for being successful professors, politicians, pimps, physicists, presstitutes and prostitutes in our degraded anti-Arindam age.
    "Presstitutes": would be a clever coinage, but isn't. "Keep working on it."
    It is a common word now.
    "Is this an observation, or an order?"
    An observation.
    "I've never heard of that word."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 4 11:30:59 2023
    Can_Dr.Christopher Eisgruber,Dr.Michael Aizenman,Dr.Philip Anderson,MitchR - -PLEASE--step into Princeton University physics or chemistry lab and weigh the mass of Electrolysis Water, proving Water is H4O not H2O. AP's homegrown lab cannot do the fine
    tuning experiment of weighing a test tube of electrolyzed hydrogen and oxygen from water. If AP is correct Water is really H4O, not H2O. My weighing scale is puny and insufficient for the job at hand, 0.00001 gram or less of hydrogen and oxygen test
    tubes. If AP is correct the hydrogen is 1/4 the weight of oxygen, if mainstream chemistry, physics is correct the hydrogen is 1/8 in amu to oxygen.

    President: Christopher Eisgruber (physics)

    Princeton Univ physics dept

    Michael Aizenman, Philip Anderson, Robert Austin, Waseem Bakr, Bogdan Bernevig, Ravindra Bhatt, William Bialek, Frank Calaprice, Curtis Callan, Roberto Car, Paul Chaikin, Kenan Diab, Jo Dunkley, Aurelien Fraisse, Cristiano Galbiati, Simone Giombi, Thomas
    Gregor, David Gross, Edward Groth, Steven Gubser, Duncan Haldane, William Happer, John Hopfield, Andrew Houck, David Huse, Norman Jarosik, William Jones, Andrew Leifer, Elliot Lieb, Daniel Marlow, Peter Meyers, James Olsen, Lyman Page, James Peebles,
    Alexander Polyakov, Frans Pretorius, Michael Romalis, Joshua Shaevitz, A. Smith, Shivaji Sondhi, Suzanne Staggs, Paul Steinhardt, David Tank, Joseph Taylor, Christopher Tully, Herman Verlinde, Edward Witten

    The daily spamming imbecile MitchR

    mitchr profile photo
    mitchr
    ,...
    8:58PM
    What forced cave man into intelligence



    +Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within

    +Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within

    3m views Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium


    Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within the accuracy I need for weighing a test tube of oxygen then a test tube of hydrogen from water electrolysis.


    Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium

    In Old Chemistry and Old Physics, their subatomic particles were do nothing and no function and no job particles that sit around as balls or whiz around the outside of balls doing nothing but pointless circling.

    In New Physics and New Chemistry-- All is Atom and Atoms are nothing but electricity and magnetism. Every subatomic particle has a job a function a purpose as to the Laws of Electromagnetism--- Faraday law, Coulomb law, Ampere law, Capacitor law.

    A proton is a torus of 840MeV with 840 windings, while the muon is the true electron of Atoms and is encased inside the proton torus thrusting through and producing electricity-- magnetic monopoles.

    The neutron of Atoms is a parallel plate capacitor storing the electricity of proton+muon and is skin cover on the outside of the proton torus in the form of parallel plates.

    Can hydrogen be a Atom if it is just a proton+muon? No, all atoms require to have a capacitor such as at least one neutron. Thus the Hydrogen Atom is H2 where you have 2 proton+muon where 1 of the 2 proton+muon acts like a neutron to the other
    proton+muon. Thus, water molecule is not H2O but rather is H4O.

    AP is waiting for experimental chemists and physicists to prove him correct that Water is H4O.

    In the meantime we have Hydroxyl which in Old Chemistry, especially Biology is OH, while AP says that is wrong and that is really H2O.

    Now glycerine is a hydroxyl with formula C3H8O3. And what I am thinking at this moment, is that hydroxyls will be an easier proof that Water is truly H4O, rather than wait for experimentalists to actually "weigh the electrolysis test tubes of
    oxygen and hydrogen".

    You see, with H4O as water, glycerine is C3(2 waters)O with an extra oxygen. If Water is H2O then glycerine is C3(4 waters) deficit O. It is missing an oxygen if water is H2O.

    The reason glycerine is so effective as a skin ointment is because it has glycerine, the extra O oxygen. If water were H2O, then glycerine would be a missing oxygen and not a skin lotion that works, but makes skin even more dry.

    Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium


    --- quoting in part from source-- Study.com ---
    Perhaps there is only two Faraday laws on Electrolysis. I am looking at the one that states: Faraday's first law of electrolysis relates the mass of a substance liberated (or deposited) at an electrode to the electric charge used (Q). A
    proportionality constant Z can be used:

    m = ZQ = (E/96485)(Q)

    m = mass, Q = total charge rewritten as Q = I*t amperes x time in seconds.

    This website gives an example: 5amps passed through molten Sodium Chloride for 3 hours. Calculate the mass of Sodium. E=23/1.

    m = (23/96485) (5) (3*60*60) approx 12.87 grams.

    --- end quoting in part from source-- Study.com ---

    Now has such a experiment been performed on Water to see how much atomic mass of hydrogen and of oxygen results??? If AP is correct, the formula of water is H4O, if Old Physics, Old Chemistry is correct the formula is H2O. So which is it???

    AP


    No, sorry no, Faraday's Law of Electrolysis is not going to tell the correct mass of hydrogen.

    Reading Wikipedia on Faraday's Electrolysis law.

    --- quoting Wikipedia ---
    A monovalent ion requires 1 electron for discharge, a divalent ion requires 2 electrons for discharge and so on. Thus, if x electrons flow,
    x/v atoms are discharged.

    So the mass m discharged is

    m= (xM)/vN_A) = (QM)/(eN_A *v) = (QM) / (vF)
    where
    N_A is the Avogadro constant;
    Q = xe is the total charge, equal to the number of electrons (x) times the elementary charge e;
    F is the Faraday constant.
    --- end quoting Wikipedia ---

    No, the Faraday law of Electrolysis will not work on water with a correct answer, because H is not an atom but H2 is an Atom. And where one of the proton+muon converts to being a neutron to the other proton+muon.

    So if Faraday's law of Electrolysis was applied to water, thinking it would deliver a true answer is mistaken because the one H converts to neutron.

    So it appears that we need to directly measure the test tube of oxygen and the test tube of hydrogen by a direct mass measurement.


    I doubt we can measure a test tube of hydrogen or test tube of oxygen, too small to determine the mass on some sort of weight scale.

    But here is a possible lucrative idea. We should be able to get pure deuterium water. Then run the electrolysis. Collect the test tubes.

    Now have some sort of balancing beam weight scale. Place the regular water of hydrogen test tube on one side, and place the deuterium water hydrogen test tube on other side. If they stay balanced, then AP is correct and Water is really H4O.

    Cosmic Rays from Sun

    90% of Sun's cosmic rays are 840MeV proton+muon inside = H. The hydrogen Atom is H2 where one of the H proton+muon converts to being a neutron.

    When these proton+muon hit Earth atmosphere, they can turn into pions and muons.

    I commented that H alone is a subatomic particle and that makes sense in the idea that Sun's cosmic rays are 90% these proton+muon.

    Now is interstellar hydrogen H2 and intergalactic hydrogen H2 formed when one H cosmic ray joins up with another H cosmic ray to form H2 atom?

    Is this how we get H2 in outer space? From the splitting apart of H2 into H cosmic rays?

    So how much of the Sun's hydrogen is H2 and how much is H ready to join with another H and reform back into H2. Probably little of the Sun's H is H alone, and the vast majority of the Sun's hydrogen is H2.

    How much deuterium in the Sun? And it is a higher percentage than the deuterium in water on Earth?

    Water is the only known non-metallic substance that expands when if freezes; its density decreases and it expands approximately 9% by volume. (Source: web Lunar and Planetary Institute)

    I have to wait for experimental chemists and physicists to weigh the mass of test tubes from electrolysis, as to the verdict-- water is H4O.

    But until that news comes in, I will look for other means of proof.

    So AP says that the H2 is not a molecule but is the hydrogen Atom itself, where one proton+muon converts to a neutron and capacitates the other proton+muon which undergo the Faraday law.

    There are subatomic particles of H in the form of Cosmic Rays from the Sun, but most of the Sun's hydrogen is H2, and flips back and forth from H to rejoining to form H2. Some gets away from the Sun and is cosmic rays.

    But H2 is an Atom and H is a fleeting subatomic particle.

    So can I prove Water is H4O from the data of Spectral lines of H2 is the same as deuterium, only slight difference is that the deuterium is a full fledged neutron not a makeshift proton+muon of H.

    I suspect that special trait of water freezing is a proof that Water is H4O. Because the 840MeV proton torus with muon inside doing the Faraday law acting as a makeshift neutron capacitor for the other 840MeV proton torus with muon inside, is
    where H2 gets that expansion characteristic.

    A neutron is a parallel plate capacitor and those plates can expand when frozen temperature occurs. As the temperature gets colder, those plates move further apart.

    Now does deuterium which truly has a full neutron, does it expand also when frozen?? If so, does it expand as much as H2 which is 2 protons with 2 muons inside?

    So comparing the freezing and expansion of the parallel plates of a neutron in deuterium with the freezing and expansion of one of the proton+muon that is acting as a makeshift neutron in H2.

    If I can numbers correlate the H2 expansion with the Deuterium expansion would be a alternative proof that Water is really H4O and not H2O.

    AP
    to
    So now on Blankenship's book "Molecular Mechanisms of Photosynthesis", 2014, page 134, shows The structure of ATP, ADP, AMP. And within that structure are OH hydroxyls.

    In New Chemistry, water is truly H4O, and where hydroxyls are now H2O. And we have first proof of this in the Figure 8.1 of Blankenship's "Chemical structure of ATP".

    For in the lower left corner of the diagram, Blankenship has a H+ all alone, (really a mindless error) and has P surrounded by O-, O-, O and OH. The OH is really H2O for hydroxyls are H2O and water itself is H4O, and that would leave that
    mindless H+ as being hydrogen Atom of H2.

    The world of physics and chemistry should drop what they are doing and weigh the electrolysis test tube of hydrogen and oxygen to discover the correct true formula of water is H4O.

    AP is total confident, becuase an Atom cannot exist if it has no capacitor structure such as a neutron, or one of the H in H2 acting as a neutron. I am totally confident that Water formula is truly H4O. And I need look only to methane of H4C, to
    realize that there is no HC, no H2C, no H3C, but starts with H4C, and that tells me water starts with H4O. Totally confident that Old Chemistry, Old Physics did electrolysis experiments and the moment they saw hydrogen test tube be 2x volume of oxygen
    test tube, they dropped their work and went out for a Danish and coffee break, rather than finish their work--- actual physics weighing of atomic mass units (not the Faraday electrolysis law for it does not apply to water).

    When water electrolysis is physics weighed, AP is confident that there are 4H per every one oxygen O. And that Water is truly H4O.


    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 8:56:57 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within the accuracy I need for weighing a test tube of oxygen then a test tube of hydrogen from water electrolysis.

    Now modern day physics and chemist experimenters can really do a marvelous job if they wanted to. For they could freeze the test tubes of oxygen and hydrogen to where they are liquid and compare liquids from water electrolysis.

    So, what AP is saying here is that we do electrolysis of water. We collect the two test tubes, one with oxygen the other with hydrogen.

    To prove Water is truly the formula H4O and not H2O we must weigh the masses of the two tubes to find that the ratio is 1 x 16amu to 4 x 1amu.

    The silly grotesque science error of the past was to look at volumes in the two test tubes-- "Hey-- the hydrogen is twice the volume of oxygen so the formula of water is H2O".

    No, way was that science good practice. For the correct formula of water needs to be measured by mass, by atomic mass units where Oxygen is 16amu and hydrogen is 1amu.

    I suspect a balance beam scale is good enough to see the hydrogen test tube will be 1/4 as massive as the oxygen test tube. To get within precision of electronic weighing scale of 0.00001 gram we just have to make a larger test tube of
    electrolysis of water.

    AP is betting that the readings will be hydrogen test tube 1/4 the mass of oxygen test tube proving Water formula is truly H4O.

    Old Physics and Old Chemistry is betting that the mass experiment will have the hydrogen test tube be 1/8 the mass of the oxygen test tube, proving Water formula is H2O.

    AP does not have these precision equipment to conduct an at-home experiment of this nature.

    So, once Water is found to actually be H4O, not H2O, we move on to methane, and ask the same question of its hydrogen bonds. Is Methane really that of H8C and not H4C.

    Well, looking in the literature for anomalies to methane, I come across a arXiv "Low and high-temperature anomalies in the physical properties of solid methane "The anomalous behavior of thermodynamic, spectral, plastic, elastic and some other
    properties of solid methane is discussed near 20.48K and...

    AP wonders: if they can get methane to solid form, well, I am then hopeful that the mass of the molecule can be determined. Because if methane is truly H8C, that difference of H4 in atomic mass units would be very much noticeable difference.

    Chemistry Europe--
    "The Anomalous Deuterium Isotope Effect in the NMR Spectrum of Methane...

    P Vermeeren, 2023
    "The abnormally long and weak methylidyne C-H bond.."
    "The C-H bond of the methylidyne radical, CH*, is abnormally long and weak, even longer and..."

    AP asks, are these anomalies solved if we consider methane is actually H8C and not H4C?

    AP


    My 250th published book.

    TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY; H2 is the hydrogen Atom and water is H4O, not H2O// Chemistry
    by Archimedes Plutonium (Author) (Amazon's Kindle)
    Prologue: This textbook is 1/2 research history and 1/2 factual textbook combined as one textbook. For many of the experiments described here-in have not yet been performed, such as water is really H4O not H2O. Written in a style of history research
    with date-time markers, and fact telling. And there are no problem sets. This book is intended for 1st year college. Until I include problem sets and exercises, I leave it to the professor and instructor to provide such. And also, chemistry is hugely a
    laboratory science, even more so than physics, so a first year college student in the lab to test whether Water is really H4O and not H2O is mighty educational.

    Preface: This is my 250th book of science, and the first of my textbooks on Teaching True Chemistry. I have completed the Teaching True Physics and the Teaching True Mathematics textbook series. But had not yet started on a Teaching True Chemistry
    textbook series. What got me started on this project is the fact that no chemistry textbook had the correct formula for water which is actually H4O and not H2O. Leaving the true formula for hydroxyl groups as H2O and not OH. But none of this is possible
    in Old Chemistry, Old Physics where they had do-nothing subatomic particles that sit around and do nothing or go whizzing around the outside of balls in a nucleus, in a mindless circling. Once every subatomic particle has a job, task, function, then
    water cannot be H2O but rather H4O. And a hydrogen atom cannot be H alone but is actually H2. H2 is not a molecule of hydrogen but a full fledged Atom, a single atom of hydrogen.

    Cover Picture: Sorry for the crude sketch work but chemistry and physics students are going to have to learn to make such sketches in a minute or less. Just as they make Lewis diagrams or ball & stick diagrams. My 4-5 minute sketch-work of the Water
    molecule H4O plus the subatomic particle H, and the hydrogen atom H2. Showing how one H is a proton torus with muon inside (blue color) doing the Faraday law. Protons are toruses with many windings. Protons are the coils in Faraday law while muons are
    the bar magnets. Neutrons are the capacitors as parallel plates, the outer skin cover of atoms.

    Product details
    • ASIN ‏ : ‎ B0CCLPTBDG
    • Publication date ‏ : ‎ July 21, 2023
    • Language ‏ : ‎ English
    • File size ‏ : ‎ 788 KB
    • Text-to-Speech ‏ : ‎ Enabled
    • Screen Reader ‏ : ‎ Supported
    • Enhanced typesetting ‏ : ‎ Enabled
    • X-Ray ‏ : ‎ Not Enabled
    • Word Wise ‏ : ‎ Enabled
    • Sticky notes ‏ : ‎ On Kindle Scribe
    • Print length ‏ : ‎ 168 pages






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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Mon Sep 4 11:32:37 2023
    On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 4:28:40 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 07:54:41 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 2:46:25 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 06:36:02 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 2:16:36 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Sunday, 3 September 2023 at 01:24:56 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 4:01:53 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 29 August 2023 at 06:31:19 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 2:42:06 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 22 August 2023 at 20:50:55 UTC+10, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 7:00 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 6:58 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/6/2023 11:14 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    I don't know why you'd bring up energy-mass equivalence here.


    Sorry I've perhaps got other reasons as well to be pissed.
    Or perhaps I can make a concise form of the gist of what I said for
    posterity.

    Three examples:

    Distance is not "equivalent" to time. A factor of speed is tied in the
    relation it has with time, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Momentum is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of speed is tied in the
    relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Kinetic energy is not "equivalent" to momentum. An additional factor of
    speed is tied in the relation it has with momentum, which cannot be
    taken as just a number.

    And likewise, energy is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of not just
    speed of light, but a second degree speed of light, is tied in the
    relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number,
    regardless of the latter seemingly exhibiting the same value in
    measurements.

    In none of the statements above, you should mistake such realities with
    the "math" expressions of them in your head. Math has nothing to do with
    those realities. They are facts of nature, in and of themselves, with or
    without the tools of math at your disposal. Don't get them mixed up with
    the math form of their expressions you see on the paper!

    If someone is using the phrase, "energy-mass equivalence", he is just
    blabbering nonsense. He is trashing the existence of light and the
    feature of speed of it two times over. How can one trash that so easily?

    A Cro-Magnon human obviously can! But so what? Who cares? Cause human,
    Modern Human, does not trash the light and its speed in that
    relationship that energy and mass have with each other, TWO TIMES OVER.
    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
    www.avast.com
    Esteemed fools - the whodumbos, that is - have no clue about the basic meaning of algebra, although they apply it for their nefarious purposes.
    "Whodumbo" is kind of not enough of a word, guy.
    Okay, so let me elaborate.

    Whodumbo: very small person; arsehole; cheat, fraud, liar, slimy with base cunning; pretentious; opportunistic; cold, heartless, soulless; fake; projecting windbag; pig-headed; money-minded; useless; wasteful of others' money; deeply
    prejudiced; racist; bigoted; schizophrenic; bully; corrupt to the core institutionalized e=mcc chanting cowardly cretin.

    "You're really just not that smart, dude."
    I have not your headless chicken thought styles. That is, as headless, brainless. Sad. Evidently that is the most to be got for me from the US establishments. More sad. Whodumbos rule there in glory with all their meanness and stupidities,
    creating flapping entities.
    "Dude, maybe you need to stay off the drugs."
    I take no drugs. Don't project.
    It's an "elliptical" expression. More literally put, your wording is very unbalanced and poor in expressive meaning. It's *like* you're on drugs.
    As usual, you are totally wrong.

    "So wrong that the negation of my statement wouldn't make it true?" #illogicalrichpeoplecontd

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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Rubard on Tue Sep 5 08:50:33 2023
    On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 11:32:40 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 4:28:40 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 07:54:41 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 2:46:25 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 06:36:02 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 2:16:36 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Sunday, 3 September 2023 at 01:24:56 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 4:01:53 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 29 August 2023 at 06:31:19 UTC+10, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 2:42:06 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Tuesday, 22 August 2023 at 20:50:55 UTC+10, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 7:00 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 6:58 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/6/2023 11:14 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    I don't know why you'd bring up energy-mass equivalence here.


    Sorry I've perhaps got other reasons as well to be pissed.
    Or perhaps I can make a concise form of the gist of what I said for
    posterity.

    Three examples:

    Distance is not "equivalent" to time. A factor of speed is tied in the
    relation it has with time, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Momentum is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of speed is tied in the
    relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Kinetic energy is not "equivalent" to momentum. An additional factor of
    speed is tied in the relation it has with momentum, which cannot be
    taken as just a number.

    And likewise, energy is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of not just
    speed of light, but a second degree speed of light, is tied in the
    relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number,
    regardless of the latter seemingly exhibiting the same value in
    measurements.

    In none of the statements above, you should mistake such realities with
    the "math" expressions of them in your head. Math has nothing to do with
    those realities. They are facts of nature, in and of themselves, with or
    without the tools of math at your disposal. Don't get them mixed up with
    the math form of their expressions you see on the paper!

    If someone is using the phrase, "energy-mass equivalence", he is just
    blabbering nonsense. He is trashing the existence of light and the
    feature of speed of it two times over. How can one trash that so easily?

    A Cro-Magnon human obviously can! But so what? Who cares? Cause human,
    Modern Human, does not trash the light and its speed in that
    relationship that energy and mass have with each other, TWO TIMES OVER.
    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
    www.avast.com
    Esteemed fools - the whodumbos, that is - have no clue about the basic meaning of algebra, although they apply it for their nefarious purposes.
    "Whodumbo" is kind of not enough of a word, guy.
    Okay, so let me elaborate.

    Whodumbo: very small person; arsehole; cheat, fraud, liar, slimy with base cunning; pretentious; opportunistic; cold, heartless, soulless; fake; projecting windbag; pig-headed; money-minded; useless; wasteful of others' money; deeply
    prejudiced; racist; bigoted; schizophrenic; bully; corrupt to the core institutionalized e=mcc chanting cowardly cretin.

    "You're really just not that smart, dude."
    I have not your headless chicken thought styles. That is, as headless, brainless. Sad. Evidently that is the most to be got for me from the US establishments. More sad. Whodumbos rule there in glory with all their meanness and stupidities,
    creating flapping entities.
    "Dude, maybe you need to stay off the drugs."
    I take no drugs. Don't project.
    It's an "elliptical" expression. More literally put, your wording is very unbalanced and poor in expressive meaning. It's *like* you're on drugs.
    As usual, you are totally wrong.
    "So wrong that the negation of my statement wouldn't make it true?" #illogicalrichpeoplecontd

    "I don't see what that means."
    The comment I am replying to is the sort of "rubbishy" rhetorical garbage that is supposed to obscure basic laws of logic like that.

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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Tue Sep 5 14:15:08 2023
    On Monday, 17 July 2023 at 10:59:20 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Sunday, 16 July 2023 at 07:37:29 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 20:45:18 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 18:43:05 UTC+10, corella wrote:
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-14/india-to-launch-moon-rocket-chandrayaan-3/102583926

    Rockets are for fireworks. These are reverse-racist apists of Western trash. Internal Force Engines are the way to become aliens in outer space.
    https://www.facebook.com/arindam.banerjee.31149359/videos/1028532314980688 shows the power stroke, key to reactionless motors for unlimited speeds without rocket action that must throw out mass yet only reach limited speeds.
    (The mechanical reaction in the video is caused from rolling, MERCURY RAILS ARE NEEDED for the heavy armature to slide without pushing back the motor with treadmill action.)
    The arrested armature will give its momentum to the whole motor and the vehicle with it.
    In outer space, nothing to stop it! It will gain a velocity v with every hit with the power stroke. After N hits the speed will be Nv.
    In the second stroke, the armature has to be brought back to the original position.
    Then, again and again, with the hits.
    Millions of amperes of current are needed. For that, fuel cells are required powered by hydrogen and oxygen.

    Needful to add, the rails will still be cover with a mercury layer on top for the sliding of the heavy armature.
    Holding the mercury layer on the rails will require a honeycomb effect.
    The high cohesion force of mercury will be of great use for that purpose - will not fly off!

    Mercury was used in the design of the mythological vimans.
    Now not that mythological with -

    The basic designs of proper spaceships (not using rockets, that is) are shown in:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sSPxGsLkws
    IFE - 4 Evolution of spaceship

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJdM6UDPauU
    IFE - 5 Hydrogen Transmission Network

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUAcx7rAplc
    IFE - 6 Spaceship Design

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Zbpvc3fdA
    IFE - 7 Anti-Gravity

    Cheers,
    Arindam Banerjee

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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Wed Sep 6 08:33:29 2023
    On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 2:15:12 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 17 July 2023 at 10:59:20 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Sunday, 16 July 2023 at 07:37:29 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 20:45:18 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 18:43:05 UTC+10, corella wrote:
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-14/india-to-launch-moon-rocket-chandrayaan-3/102583926

    Rockets are for fireworks. These are reverse-racist apists of Western trash. Internal Force Engines are the way to become aliens in outer space.
    https://www.facebook.com/arindam.banerjee.31149359/videos/1028532314980688
    shows the power stroke, key to reactionless motors for unlimited speeds without rocket action that must throw out mass yet only reach limited speeds.
    (The mechanical reaction in the video is caused from rolling, MERCURY RAILS ARE NEEDED for the heavy armature to slide without pushing back the motor with treadmill action.)
    The arrested armature will give its momentum to the whole motor and the vehicle with it.
    In outer space, nothing to stop it! It will gain a velocity v with every hit with the power stroke. After N hits the speed will be Nv.
    In the second stroke, the armature has to be brought back to the original position.
    Then, again and again, with the hits.
    Millions of amperes of current are needed. For that, fuel cells are required powered by hydrogen and oxygen.

    Needful to add, the rails will still be cover with a mercury layer on top for the sliding of the heavy armature.
    Holding the mercury layer on the rails will require a honeycomb effect.
    The high cohesion force of mercury will be of great use for that purpose - will not fly off!

    Mercury was used in the design of the mythological vimans.
    Now not that mythological with -

    "Did it give you your brain damage, then?"

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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Rubard on Fri Sep 8 08:34:17 2023
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 8:33:32 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 2:15:12 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 17 July 2023 at 10:59:20 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Sunday, 16 July 2023 at 07:37:29 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 20:45:18 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 18:43:05 UTC+10, corella wrote:
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-14/india-to-launch-moon-rocket-chandrayaan-3/102583926

    Rockets are for fireworks. These are reverse-racist apists of Western trash. Internal Force Engines are the way to become aliens in outer space.
    https://www.facebook.com/arindam.banerjee.31149359/videos/1028532314980688
    shows the power stroke, key to reactionless motors for unlimited speeds without rocket action that must throw out mass yet only reach limited speeds.
    (The mechanical reaction in the video is caused from rolling, MERCURY RAILS ARE NEEDED for the heavy armature to slide without pushing back the motor with treadmill action.)
    The arrested armature will give its momentum to the whole motor and the vehicle with it.
    In outer space, nothing to stop it! It will gain a velocity v with every hit with the power stroke. After N hits the speed will be Nv.
    In the second stroke, the armature has to be brought back to the original position.
    Then, again and again, with the hits.
    Millions of amperes of current are needed. For that, fuel cells are required powered by hydrogen and oxygen.

    Needful to add, the rails will still be cover with a mercury layer on top for the sliding of the heavy armature.
    Holding the mercury layer on the rails will require a honeycomb effect. The high cohesion force of mercury will be of great use for that purpose - will not fly off!

    Mercury was used in the design of the mythological vimans.
    Now not that mythological with -
    "Did it give you your brain damage, then?"

    ...oh, that's "leading argumentation", I'd better not.

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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Rubard on Fri Sep 8 11:15:48 2023
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 8:34:21 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 8:33:32 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 2:15:12 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 17 July 2023 at 10:59:20 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Sunday, 16 July 2023 at 07:37:29 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 20:45:18 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 18:43:05 UTC+10, corella wrote:
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-14/india-to-launch-moon-rocket-chandrayaan-3/102583926

    Rockets are for fireworks. These are reverse-racist apists of Western trash. Internal Force Engines are the way to become aliens in outer space.
    https://www.facebook.com/arindam.banerjee.31149359/videos/1028532314980688
    shows the power stroke, key to reactionless motors for unlimited speeds without rocket action that must throw out mass yet only reach limited speeds.
    (The mechanical reaction in the video is caused from rolling, MERCURY RAILS ARE NEEDED for the heavy armature to slide without pushing back the motor with treadmill action.)
    The arrested armature will give its momentum to the whole motor and the vehicle with it.
    In outer space, nothing to stop it! It will gain a velocity v with every hit with the power stroke. After N hits the speed will be Nv.
    In the second stroke, the armature has to be brought back to the original position.
    Then, again and again, with the hits.
    Millions of amperes of current are needed. For that, fuel cells are required powered by hydrogen and oxygen.

    Needful to add, the rails will still be cover with a mercury layer on top for the sliding of the heavy armature.
    Holding the mercury layer on the rails will require a honeycomb effect. The high cohesion force of mercury will be of great use for that purpose - will not fly off!

    Mercury was used in the design of the mythological vimans.
    Now not that mythological with -
    "Did it give you your brain damage, then?"
    ...oh, that's "leading argumentation", I'd better not.

    Maybe he really doesn't have brain damage, etc.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Rubard on Sun Sep 10 13:25:50 2023
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:15:52 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 8:34:21 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 8:33:32 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 2:15:12 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 17 July 2023 at 10:59:20 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Sunday, 16 July 2023 at 07:37:29 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 20:45:18 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 18:43:05 UTC+10, corella wrote:
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-14/india-to-launch-moon-rocket-chandrayaan-3/102583926

    Rockets are for fireworks. These are reverse-racist apists of Western trash. Internal Force Engines are the way to become aliens in outer space.
    https://www.facebook.com/arindam.banerjee.31149359/videos/1028532314980688
    shows the power stroke, key to reactionless motors for unlimited speeds without rocket action that must throw out mass yet only reach limited speeds.
    (The mechanical reaction in the video is caused from rolling, MERCURY RAILS ARE NEEDED for the heavy armature to slide without pushing back the motor with treadmill action.)
    The arrested armature will give its momentum to the whole motor and the vehicle with it.
    In outer space, nothing to stop it! It will gain a velocity v with every hit with the power stroke. After N hits the speed will be Nv.
    In the second stroke, the armature has to be brought back to the original position.
    Then, again and again, with the hits.
    Millions of amperes of current are needed. For that, fuel cells are required powered by hydrogen and oxygen.

    Needful to add, the rails will still be cover with a mercury layer on top for the sliding of the heavy armature.
    Holding the mercury layer on the rails will require a honeycomb effect.
    The high cohesion force of mercury will be of great use for that purpose - will not fly off!

    Mercury was used in the design of the mythological vimans.
    Now not that mythological with -
    "Did it give you your brain damage, then?"
    ...oh, that's "leading argumentation", I'd better not.
    Maybe he really doesn't have brain damage, etc.

    "Doesn't everybody really have brain damage by a certain age?"
    Yes, or it's not really quite how the neuroscience of aging actually would be.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Rubard on Fri Sep 15 10:58:30 2023
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 1:25:55 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:15:52 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 8:34:21 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 8:33:32 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 2:15:12 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 17 July 2023 at 10:59:20 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Sunday, 16 July 2023 at 07:37:29 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 20:45:18 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 18:43:05 UTC+10, corella wrote:
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-14/india-to-launch-moon-rocket-chandrayaan-3/102583926

    Rockets are for fireworks. These are reverse-racist apists of Western trash. Internal Force Engines are the way to become aliens in outer space.
    https://www.facebook.com/arindam.banerjee.31149359/videos/1028532314980688
    shows the power stroke, key to reactionless motors for unlimited speeds without rocket action that must throw out mass yet only reach limited speeds.
    (The mechanical reaction in the video is caused from rolling, MERCURY RAILS ARE NEEDED for the heavy armature to slide without pushing back the motor with treadmill action.)
    The arrested armature will give its momentum to the whole motor and the vehicle with it.
    In outer space, nothing to stop it! It will gain a velocity v with every hit with the power stroke. After N hits the speed will be Nv.
    In the second stroke, the armature has to be brought back to the original position.
    Then, again and again, with the hits.
    Millions of amperes of current are needed. For that, fuel cells are required powered by hydrogen and oxygen.

    Needful to add, the rails will still be cover with a mercury layer on top for the sliding of the heavy armature.
    Holding the mercury layer on the rails will require a honeycomb effect.
    The high cohesion force of mercury will be of great use for that purpose - will not fly off!

    Mercury was used in the design of the mythological vimans.
    Now not that mythological with -
    "Did it give you your brain damage, then?"
    ...oh, that's "leading argumentation", I'd better not.
    Maybe he really doesn't have brain damage, etc.
    "Doesn't everybody really have brain damage by a certain age?"
    Yes, or it's not really quite how the neuroscience of aging actually would be.

    "How would it work?"
    People have the "amount of brain damage" they actually have. That stroke wouldn't have made them specially "wise", etc.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Rubard on Thu Sep 21 15:29:31 2023
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 10:58:33 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 1:25:55 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:15:52 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 8:34:21 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 8:33:32 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 2:15:12 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 17 July 2023 at 10:59:20 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Sunday, 16 July 2023 at 07:37:29 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 20:45:18 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 18:43:05 UTC+10, corella wrote:
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-14/india-to-launch-moon-rocket-chandrayaan-3/102583926

    Rockets are for fireworks. These are reverse-racist apists of Western trash. Internal Force Engines are the way to become aliens in outer space.
    https://www.facebook.com/arindam.banerjee.31149359/videos/1028532314980688
    shows the power stroke, key to reactionless motors for unlimited speeds without rocket action that must throw out mass yet only reach limited speeds.
    (The mechanical reaction in the video is caused from rolling, MERCURY RAILS ARE NEEDED for the heavy armature to slide without pushing back the motor with treadmill action.)
    The arrested armature will give its momentum to the whole motor and the vehicle with it.
    In outer space, nothing to stop it! It will gain a velocity v with every hit with the power stroke. After N hits the speed will be Nv.
    In the second stroke, the armature has to be brought back to the original position.
    Then, again and again, with the hits.
    Millions of amperes of current are needed. For that, fuel cells are required powered by hydrogen and oxygen.

    Needful to add, the rails will still be cover with a mercury layer on top for the sliding of the heavy armature.
    Holding the mercury layer on the rails will require a honeycomb effect.
    The high cohesion force of mercury will be of great use for that purpose - will not fly off!

    Mercury was used in the design of the mythological vimans.
    Now not that mythological with -
    "Did it give you your brain damage, then?"
    ...oh, that's "leading argumentation", I'd better not.
    Maybe he really doesn't have brain damage, etc.
    "Doesn't everybody really have brain damage by a certain age?"
    Yes, or it's not really quite how the neuroscience of aging actually would be.
    "How would it work?"
    People have the "amount of brain damage" they actually have. That stroke wouldn't have made them specially "wise", etc.

    "Do you have a favorite neuroscientist?"
    Eric Kandel? Anyhow, that's the 'gross shape' of the scientific idea...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Rubard on Fri Sep 22 08:23:43 2023
    On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 3:29:35 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 10:58:33 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 1:25:55 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:15:52 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 8:34:21 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 8:33:32 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 2:15:12 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Monday, 17 July 2023 at 10:59:20 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Sunday, 16 July 2023 at 07:37:29 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 20:45:18 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 18:43:05 UTC+10, corella wrote:
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-14/india-to-launch-moon-rocket-chandrayaan-3/102583926

    Rockets are for fireworks. These are reverse-racist apists of Western trash. Internal Force Engines are the way to become aliens in outer space.
    https://www.facebook.com/arindam.banerjee.31149359/videos/1028532314980688
    shows the power stroke, key to reactionless motors for unlimited speeds without rocket action that must throw out mass yet only reach limited speeds.
    (The mechanical reaction in the video is caused from rolling, MERCURY RAILS ARE NEEDED for the heavy armature to slide without pushing back the motor with treadmill action.)
    The arrested armature will give its momentum to the whole motor and the vehicle with it.
    In outer space, nothing to stop it! It will gain a velocity v with every hit with the power stroke. After N hits the speed will be Nv.
    In the second stroke, the armature has to be brought back to the original position.
    Then, again and again, with the hits.
    Millions of amperes of current are needed. For that, fuel cells are required powered by hydrogen and oxygen.

    Needful to add, the rails will still be cover with a mercury layer on top for the sliding of the heavy armature.
    Holding the mercury layer on the rails will require a honeycomb effect.
    The high cohesion force of mercury will be of great use for that purpose - will not fly off!

    Mercury was used in the design of the mythological vimans.
    Now not that mythological with -
    "Did it give you your brain damage, then?"
    ...oh, that's "leading argumentation", I'd better not.
    Maybe he really doesn't have brain damage, etc.
    "Doesn't everybody really have brain damage by a certain age?"
    Yes, or it's not really quite how the neuroscience of aging actually would be.
    "How would it work?"
    People have the "amount of brain damage" they actually have. That stroke wouldn't have made them specially "wise", etc.
    "Do you have a favorite neuroscientist?"
    Eric Kandel? Anyhow, that's the 'gross shape' of the scientific idea...

    "Gross anatomy?"
    Sure, but let's say that people who use the expression 'word salad' must have... an agenda.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Fri Sep 22 13:35:18 2023
    On Sunday, 16 July 2023 at 07:37:29 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 20:45:18 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 18:43:05 UTC+10, corella wrote:
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-14/india-to-launch-moon-rocket-chandrayaan-3/102583926

    Rockets are for fireworks. These are reverse-racist apists of Western trash. Internal Force Engines are the way to become aliens in outer space.
    https://www.facebook.com/arindam.banerjee.31149359/videos/1028532314980688 shows the power stroke, key to reactionless motors for unlimited speeds without rocket action that must throw out mass yet only reach limited speeds.
    (The mechanical reaction in the video is caused from rolling, MERCURY RAILS ARE NEEDED for the heavy armature to slide without pushing back the motor with treadmill action.)
    The arrested armature will give its momentum to the whole motor and the vehicle with it.
    In outer space, nothing to stop it! It will gain a velocity v with every hit with the power stroke. After N hits the speed will be Nv.
    In the second stroke, the armature has to be brought back to the original position.
    Then, again and again, with the hits.
    Millions of amperes of current are needed. For that, fuel cells are required powered by hydrogen and oxygen.

    Cheers,
    Arindam Banerjee


    https://www.facebook.com/arindam.banerjee.31149359/videos/690084565977593

    Explanation to the above, in my latest facebook posting (eally what better visual method is there for free and fast and for-all information transmission!)

    Moving the centre of gravity forward with internal force. Details will be provided on a 30 millisecond basis later. Please observe that the force on the armature of 3kg mass is not pushing back the gun very much but the rolling action is doing that
    reducing the efficiency. However this backward motion may be causing the notion that it is acting as a reaction to the electrical force pushing the armature. I think that the rolling treadmill effect is pushing it back. If it was sliding this pushback
    should not happen. Unfortunately the sliding causes too much friction on one handand welding effect on another as huge currents are involved. Please note that after the stops are hit the backward motion is arrested and the whole apparatus moves forward
    until stopped by ground friction. In free space it will go on indefinitely violating the inertia principle so sacred to physicists. This is the power stroke of the 2 stroke Internal Force Engine which will replace rockets and jet engines in the future.

    Cheers,
    Arindam Banerjee

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Tue Sep 26 08:30:22 2023
    On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 1:35:22 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Sunday, 16 July 2023 at 07:37:29 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 20:45:18 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 18:43:05 UTC+10, corella wrote:
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-14/india-to-launch-moon-rocket-chandrayaan-3/102583926

    Rockets are for fireworks. These are reverse-racist apists of Western trash. Internal Force Engines are the way to become aliens in outer space.
    https://www.facebook.com/arindam.banerjee.31149359/videos/1028532314980688 shows the power stroke, key to reactionless motors for unlimited speeds without rocket action that must throw out mass yet only reach limited speeds.
    (The mechanical reaction in the video is caused from rolling, MERCURY RAILS ARE NEEDED for the heavy armature to slide without pushing back the motor with treadmill action.)
    The arrested armature will give its momentum to the whole motor and the vehicle with it.
    In outer space, nothing to stop it! It will gain a velocity v with every hit with the power stroke. After N hits the speed will be Nv.
    In the second stroke, the armature has to be brought back to the original position.
    Then, again and again, with the hits.
    Millions of amperes of current are needed. For that, fuel cells are required powered by hydrogen and oxygen.

    Cheers,
    Arindam Banerjee


    https://www.facebook.com/arindam.banerjee.31149359/videos/690084565977593

    Explanation to the above, in my latest facebook posting (eally what better visual method is there for free and fast and for-all information transmission!)

    Moving the centre of gravity forward with internal force. Details will be provided on a 30 millisecond basis later. Please observe that the force on the armature of 3kg mass is not pushing back the gun very much but the rolling action is doing that
    reducing the efficiency. However this backward motion may be causing the notion that it is acting as a reaction to the electrical force pushing the armature. I think that the rolling treadmill effect is pushing it back. If it was sliding this pushback
    should not happen. Unfortunately the sliding causes too much friction on one handand welding effect on another as huge currents are involved. Please note that after the stops are hit the backward motion is arrested and the whole apparatus moves forward
    until stopped by ground friction. In free space it will go on indefinitely violating the inertia principle so sacred to physicists. This is the power stroke of the 2 stroke Internal Force Engine which will replace rockets and jet engines in the future.

    Cheers,
    Arindam Banerjee

    "Don't you have something better to do?"

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Tue Sep 26 18:19:29 2023
    On Sunday, 16 July 2023 at 07:37:29 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 20:45:18 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 18:43:05 UTC+10, corella wrote:
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-14/india-to-launch-moon-rocket-chandrayaan-3/102583926

    Rockets are for fireworks. These are reverse-racist apists of Western trash. Internal Force Engines are the way to become aliens in outer space.
    https://www.facebook.com/arindam.banerjee.31149359/videos/1028532314980688 shows the power stroke, key to reactionless motors for unlimited speeds without rocket action that must throw out mass yet only reach limited speeds.
    (The mechanical reaction in the video is caused from rolling, MERCURY RAILS ARE NEEDED for the heavy armature to slide without pushing back the motor with treadmill action.)
    The arrested armature will give its momentum to the whole motor and the vehicle with it.
    In outer space, nothing to stop it! It will gain a velocity v with every hit with the power stroke. After N hits the speed will be Nv.
    In the second stroke, the armature has to be brought back to the original position.
    Then, again and again, with the hits.
    Millions of amperes of current are needed. For that, fuel cells are required powered by hydrogen and oxygen.

    Cheers,
    Arindam Banerjee

    Busting inertial also busts the law of conservation of energy


    On Tuesday, 26 September 2023 at 22:06:51 UTC+10, bozo de niro wrote:
    Dear Arindam Banerjee: I respectfully have one question for you regarding your compulsive off-topic rant here on physics ~ not that I'm not somewhat interested in your personal wheelhouse of competence and achievement in physics, but realistically it
    is somewhat if not conspicuously far afield here and thus glaringly must be serving you some psychological benefit and relief, and I can't help but wonder if you've ever thought about that issue and would you care to expand and explore it here if it's
    not too painful?

    You are right, it does give my relief if not any benefit (as yet) to post my physics ideas here.
    This is an open forum, very rare now with universal headings open to all bypassed with other online media. Which I also use, despite apparent lack of views.
    Usenet thus is like a public house, great thing here is that the topics are focussed on a global basis, and uniquely. There is thus no excuse for not knowing the latest rant or idea, for anyone with integrity.
    Too bad my physics posts appear as rants to you. I merely repost some links, at times, to defend and cheer myself up and just maybe influence some dynamic and intelligent non-career persons like say a potential Steve Jobs. I know, these people are very
    rare, but what chance other than Usenet online posts do I have? The buy one get one, two for the price of one, the bigJew-gujJew Einstein-Gandhi bunny-ah combo pack do their best to suppress me, with stunning success.
    No one can say I have NOT tried to disseminate my new ideas, which I believe are of the greatest benefit to posterity. It is sad that the establishments have no use for posterity. Posterity be damned for them. They care for their egos, careers and
    snobberies, prejudices and petty personal interests. Robots, after all, they are.
    As for the pains involved, they have been very great, especially for my family for they did not know why I was being ignored and ridiculed. I suffered because they suffered. For many years. Now, as I have lost all regard for all the dominant
    establishments involving professors, politicians, physicists, pimps, presstitutes and prostitutes, there is no suffering - one does not suffer from what one despises. Just see them as hindrances and potential evils, like viruses.

    Hope I made it clear enough, by the above expansion.



    ~ but getting back to your Newtonian physics and any of its possible justification here, does ANY of its exploration here (i.e. PHYSICS) have any potential or effect on making the public utility meter at my personal domicile ACTUALLY RUN BACKWARDS? Which
    would mean DOES ANY OF IT ACTUALLY TRANSLATE to me delivering energy back to my power company so that I can get paid for the power I'm delivering to PACIFIC GAS & ELECTRIC rather than the other way around? IF SO THEN PLEASE PLEASE CONTINUE INDEED and
    tell me why I am not seeing the benefit and/or making the connection pedagogically? THANK YOU.

    In my case, as I have solar on top of the house, I do get rebate at 66c per unit for the surplus power fed back to the grid.

    So it is already happening for me, and as far as I can tell, for many americans as well.

    Now the point is, can you generate more power locally with the wheel of Bhaskaracharya, and add that to the solar power to make more money.
    Or if you make enough power with solar/wind/wheel can you dispense with power bills?
    Or if your car is electric, fuel bills?
    Evidently solar is not enough. You need constant power 7*24 at some steady pace, say 5KW for unending joy thanks to the wheel of Bhaskara, and the gravity of Mother Earth.

    Let us see if that can happen.


    The power is 5KW, or 5000 W. In the video of the wheel, the angular velocity is about 2 radians/sec
    Now power = moment of inertia times angular velocity
    or 5000 = I * 2
    or I = 2500 MKS units.
    Let us say that the moment of inertia of the motor armature (come to that later) is 500.
    So for the rest (wheel, masses, spokes, shaft) it is 2000.
    Let there be 10 wheels welded to a central shaft.
    So per wheel, the Inertia is 200.
    I is very roughly mass times the square of the radius, with some constant dependent upon the geometry.
    Let us say the diameter of the bicyle wheel is 0.6m
    Then the mass of the whole thing is some constant times 20/.6^2 = 20/.36 * K = 55*K
    Put K = 1, (should be different) then mass of one wheel with bottles containing oil and lead pellets/steel stuff = 55Kg.
    Say the rim and spokes make up 5KG, so the ten bottles will weigh 50Kg. One bottle 5 Kg, easy with an al pipe, lead and oil.

    Overall it should weigh, with motor, some 55*10 + weight of motor = 600Kg.

    Of course, by now the design is clear. You mount ten wheels on a shaft, weld them to the shaft, mount on two good bearings.
    Then connect to a generator.
    Now give it a whirl manually, maybe some people required for that!
    And get 5 KW max power till the end of time

    PROVIDED

    - you keep up the angular velocity going steady, for external forces like dust on bearings, gusts of wind will slow it all down over time
    - bearings do not wear out
    - keep free from dust.

    Ideal in a basement, the only problem is noise pollution.
    And remote areas.
    So in future versions, make double walled bottles, or some sound insulation. Also, automatic change from generator to motor, to keep up the angular velocity.

    Note: The above calculations are very rough, back on envelope type. But if indeed the wheel works as shown in several youtube videos, this is one way of commercialisng. Overall mass is some 600Kg to get 5KW. It is DIY stuff for anyone with some skills,
    but my guess is (taking metal price as $3.5 per Kg) could be sold for $2000 to $3000 if mass produced.

    Or $500 per KW, $500,000 per Mw, of totally green power, that could be either localised or grouped wherever.

    Cheers,
    Arindam Banerjee

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 26 23:26:46 2023
    Seems like a long time since I last reported in.

    The Fall-Autumn this year is turning out to be better than last Falls of last 3 years drought. We are getting some rain. Enough that I stopped watering some weeks ago and started storaging the hoses and tanks. Not as frantic and hectic in watering plants
    anymore. And cheaper on water bills than the prior 3 years. But I am shaky on whether the most rain coming in Fall is a good thing. Seems like the most rain should come in Spring and Summer for plants to grow. Coming in Fall, when plants are preparing
    for next Spring seems to me rather irrelevant as the trees lose their leaves and need not much water.

    And I noticed this year, absolutely not a single sighting of a garden spider, those huge black and yellow spiders. Not a single one. And I spent so much time in placing 4 of them in the house hoping that they would flourish outside that Spring. Not a
    single one have I seen the entire summer. I think it is the Sun gone Red Giant Phase with 0.005% increase in yearly radiation, that Garden Spiders cannot tolerate and die.

    I no longer am going to experiment with them in the house during winter.

    And soon winter will be upon us.

    AP

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  • From Timothy Golden@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Wed Sep 27 07:10:55 2023
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 6:50:55 AM UTC-4, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 7:00 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 6:58 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/6/2023 11:14 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    I don't know why you'd bring up energy-mass equivalence here.


    Sorry I've perhaps got other reasons as well to be pissed.
    Or perhaps I can make a concise form of the gist of what I said for posterity.

    Three examples:

    Distance is not "equivalent" to time. A factor of speed is tied in the relation it has with time, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Momentum is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of speed is tied in the relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Kinetic energy is not "equivalent" to momentum. An additional factor of speed is tied in the relation it has with momentum, which cannot be
    taken as just a number.

    And likewise, energy is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of not just
    speed of light, but a second degree speed of light, is tied in the
    relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number, regardless of the latter seemingly exhibiting the same value in measurements.

    In none of the statements above, you should mistake such realities with
    the "math" expressions of them in your head. Math has nothing to do with those realities. They are facts of nature, in and of themselves, with or without the tools of math at your disposal. Don't get them mixed up with
    the math form of their expressions you see on the paper!

    If someone is using the phrase, "energy-mass equivalence", he is just blabbering nonsense. He is trashing the existence of light and the
    feature of speed of it two times over. How can one trash that so easily?

    A Cro-Magnon human obviously can! But so what? Who cares? Cause human, Modern Human, does not trash the light and its speed in that
    relationship that energy and mass have with each other, TWO TIMES OVER.
    --
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    I have to give you credit here physfitfreak for breaking into the ground that Arindam is claiming to have broken.
    As I understand it he is claiming to have broken the conservation of momentum with an electromagnetic-mechanical system.
    As a gun backfires so does a rail gun, and yet he thinks his does not.
    As I understand it this is the breakpoint.
    Arindam: I agree that this is a mental breakage in your head. However I don't mean to be harmful. What would be best here is for you to reel it in, accept the mistake, and cover the ground again, more in the spirit of this post by the fit freak.

    This said, there is a larger issue. That you are alone in your pursuit eases the burden on us. Yet what if the quantum computer is bunk? You are not funded to the tune of billions of dollars, promising a gain on market investments or some such. The sort
    of wrong that they commit to is by far worse than your own, presuming each to be a fraud. Still, to claim you innocent when your mind is lying before our eyes cannot be quite right, either. We operate on the edge here; all of us. Arguably we expose
    humanity more clearly for what it is via uncensored interaction. We are all more like programmable computers than we realize. Creatures of habit. Many here creatures attached to their own ideas; obsessed, we could say. Your own persistence is proven and
    your commitment to your idea is known, and that you have actually been quite direct in your communications suggests that you are authentic, but alas, as you have bothered to do the physical experiment you must realize that you've avoided some details.

    It would be wonderful if it were true though, and we all are just being pompous status quo preprogrammed bots. Here lays a tension, and were it possible I think we could hope for a new theoretical interpretation more along the lines of the awareness of
    Physfitfreak above. Experiment often leads theory, and at least you are not claiming a perpetual energy machine.

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  • From Timothy Golden@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Wed Sep 27 07:12:52 2023
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 9:19:32 PM UTC-4, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Sunday, 16 July 2023 at 07:37:29 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 20:45:18 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Saturday, 15 July 2023 at 18:43:05 UTC+10, corella wrote:
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-14/india-to-launch-moon-rocket-chandrayaan-3/102583926

    Rockets are for fireworks. These are reverse-racist apists of Western trash. Internal Force Engines are the way to become aliens in outer space.
    https://www.facebook.com/arindam.banerjee.31149359/videos/1028532314980688 shows the power stroke, key to reactionless motors for unlimited speeds without rocket action that must throw out mass yet only reach limited speeds.
    (The mechanical reaction in the video is caused from rolling, MERCURY RAILS ARE NEEDED for the heavy armature to slide without pushing back the motor with treadmill action.)
    The arrested armature will give its momentum to the whole motor and the vehicle with it.
    In outer space, nothing to stop it! It will gain a velocity v with every hit with the power stroke. After N hits the speed will be Nv.
    In the second stroke, the armature has to be brought back to the original position.
    Then, again and again, with the hits.
    Millions of amperes of current are needed. For that, fuel cells are required powered by hydrogen and oxygen.

    Cheers,
    Arindam Banerjee
    Busting inertial also busts the law of conservation of energy


    On Tuesday, 26 September 2023 at 22:06:51 UTC+10, bozo de niro wrote:
    Dear Arindam Banerjee: I respectfully have one question for you regarding your compulsive off-topic rant here on physics ~ not that I'm not somewhat interested in your personal wheelhouse of competence and achievement in physics, but realistically it
    is somewhat if not conspicuously far afield here and thus glaringly must be serving you some psychological benefit and relief, and I can't help but wonder if you've ever thought about that issue and would you care to expand and explore it here if it's
    not too painful?

    You are right, it does give my relief if not any benefit (as yet) to post my physics ideas here.
    This is an open forum, very rare now with universal headings open to all bypassed with other online media. Which I also use, despite apparent lack of views.
    Usenet thus is like a public house, great thing here is that the topics are focussed on a global basis, and uniquely. There is thus no excuse for not knowing the latest rant or idea, for anyone with integrity.
    Too bad my physics posts appear as rants to you. I merely repost some links, at times, to defend and cheer myself up and just maybe influence some dynamic and intelligent non-career persons like say a potential Steve Jobs. I know, these people are very
    rare, but what chance other than Usenet online posts do I have? The buy one get one, two for the price of one, the bigJew-gujJew Einstein-Gandhi bunny-ah combo pack do their best to suppress me, with stunning success.
    No one can say I have NOT tried to disseminate my new ideas, which I believe are of the greatest benefit to posterity. It is sad that the establishments have no use for posterity. Posterity be damned for them. They care for their egos, careers and
    snobberies, prejudices and petty personal interests. Robots, after all, they are.
    As for the pains involved, they have been very great, especially for my family for they did not know why I was being ignored and ridiculed. I suffered because they suffered. For many years. Now, as I have lost all regard for all the dominant
    establishments involving professors, politicians, physicists, pimps, presstitutes and prostitutes, there is no suffering - one does not suffer from what one despises. Just see them as hindrances and potential evils, like viruses.

    Hope I made it clear enough, by the above expansion.



    ~ but getting back to your Newtonian physics and any of its possible justification here, does ANY of its exploration here (i.e. PHYSICS) have any potential or effect on making the public utility meter at my personal domicile ACTUALLY RUN BACKWARDS?
    Which would mean DOES ANY OF IT ACTUALLY TRANSLATE to me delivering energy back to my power company so that I can get paid for the power I'm delivering to PACIFIC GAS & ELECTRIC rather than the other way around? IF SO THEN PLEASE PLEASE CONTINUE INDEED
    and tell me why I am not seeing the benefit and/or making the connection pedagogically? THANK YOU.

    In my case, as I have solar on top of the house, I do get rebate at 66c per unit for the surplus power fed back to the grid.

    So it is already happening for me, and as far as I can tell, for many americans as well.

    Now the point is, can you generate more power locally with the wheel of Bhaskaracharya, and add that to the solar power to make more money.
    Or if you make enough power with solar/wind/wheel can you dispense with power bills?
    Or if your car is electric, fuel bills?
    Evidently solar is not enough. You need constant power 7*24 at some steady pace, say 5KW for unending joy thanks to the wheel of Bhaskara, and the gravity of Mother Earth.

    Let us see if that can happen.


    The power is 5KW, or 5000 W. In the video of the wheel, the angular velocity is about 2 radians/sec
    Now power = moment of inertia times angular velocity
    or 5000 = I * 2
    or I = 2500 MKS units.
    Let us say that the moment of inertia of the motor armature (come to that later) is 500.
    So for the rest (wheel, masses, spokes, shaft) it is 2000.
    Let there be 10 wheels welded to a central shaft.
    So per wheel, the Inertia is 200.
    I is very roughly mass times the square of the radius, with some constant dependent upon the geometry.
    Let us say the diameter of the bicyle wheel is 0.6m
    Then the mass of the whole thing is some constant times 20/.6^2 = 20/.36 * K = 55*K
    Put K = 1, (should be different) then mass of one wheel with bottles containing oil and lead pellets/steel stuff = 55Kg.
    Say the rim and spokes make up 5KG, so the ten bottles will weigh 50Kg. One bottle 5 Kg, easy with an al pipe, lead and oil.

    Overall it should weigh, with motor, some 55*10 + weight of motor = 600Kg.

    Of course, by now the design is clear. You mount ten wheels on a shaft, weld them to the shaft, mount on two good bearings.
    Then connect to a generator.
    Now give it a whirl manually, maybe some people required for that!
    And get 5 KW max power till the end of time

    Oops.


    PROVIDED

    - you keep up the angular velocity going steady, for external forces like dust on bearings, gusts of wind will slow it all down over time
    - bearings do not wear out
    - keep free from dust.

    Ideal in a basement, the only problem is noise pollution.
    And remote areas.
    So in future versions, make double walled bottles, or some sound insulation. Also, automatic change from generator to motor, to keep up the angular velocity.

    Note: The above calculations are very rough, back on envelope type. But if indeed the wheel works as shown in several youtube videos, this is one way of commercialisng. Overall mass is some 600Kg to get 5KW. It is DIY stuff for anyone with some skills,
    but my guess is (taking metal price as $3.5 per Kg) could be sold for $2000 to $3000 if mass produced.

    Or $500 per KW, $500,000 per Mw, of totally green power, that could be either localised or grouped wherever.

    Cheers,
    Arindam Banerjee

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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Timothy Golden on Wed Sep 27 14:13:12 2023
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 00:10:59 UTC+10, Timothy Golden wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 6:50:55 AM UTC-4, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 7:00 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 6:58 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/6/2023 11:14 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    I don't know why you'd bring up energy-mass equivalence here.


    Sorry I've perhaps got other reasons as well to be pissed.
    Or perhaps I can make a concise form of the gist of what I said for posterity.

    Three examples:

    Distance is not "equivalent" to time. A factor of speed is tied in the relation it has with time, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Momentum is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of speed is tied in the relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Kinetic energy is not "equivalent" to momentum. An additional factor of speed is tied in the relation it has with momentum, which cannot be
    taken as just a number.

    And likewise, energy is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of not just speed of light, but a second degree speed of light, is tied in the relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number, regardless of the latter seemingly exhibiting the same value in measurements.

    In none of the statements above, you should mistake such realities with the "math" expressions of them in your head. Math has nothing to do with those realities. They are facts of nature, in and of themselves, with or without the tools of math at your disposal. Don't get them mixed up with the math form of their expressions you see on the paper!

    If someone is using the phrase, "energy-mass equivalence", he is just blabbering nonsense. He is trashing the existence of light and the
    feature of speed of it two times over. How can one trash that so easily?

    A Cro-Magnon human obviously can! But so what? Who cares? Cause human, Modern Human, does not trash the light and its speed in that
    relationship that energy and mass have with each other, TWO TIMES OVER.
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    I have to give you credit here physfitfreak for breaking into the ground that Arindam is claiming to have broken.
    As I understand it he is claiming to have broken the conservation of momentum with an electromagnetic-mechanical system.
    Yes.
    As a gun backfires so does a rail gun,
    No.
    and yet he thinks his does not.
    He knows it does not.
    As I understand it this is the breakpoint.
    Yes.
    It breaks inertia, entropy, relativity, quantum theories, then big bang, black holes, dark matter, puts cold in star cores, makes the universe infinite, provides faster than light travel, cheap enetgy for for all time.

    Arindam: I agree that this is a mental breakage in your head. However I don't mean to be harmful. What would be best here is for you to reel it in, accept the mistake, and cover the ground again, more in the spirit of this post by the fit freak.

    I accept that I have been mistakenly educated by learned fools in the field of physics. High time to clean up their mistakes. And teach correct physics based upon updated Newtonian and Maxwellian approaches. I have made no mistake. I have made new
    inventions and discoveries that are ignored by the powers that be, despite my showing them in great detail on online media.

    This said, there is a larger issue. That you are alone in your pursuit eases the burden on us.

    And increases it upon me. My family and I have suffered a great deal from negligence by those who should have known and done better

    Yet what if the quantum computer is bunk? You are not funded to the tune of billions of dollars, promising a gain on market investments or some such.

    I have been hounded out of employment, got nothing but ridicule, got labelled as a crank... for my new ideas in physics. no I am not managing billions. Not even thousands. A few hundred, only from my savings. I understand that I am so persecuted to set
    an example to possible supporters. No one dares, thus, to support me.


    The sort of wrong that they commit to is by far worse than your own, presuming each to be a fraud.

    You are a fraud to suggest on no basis that I am wrong.

    Still, to claim you innocent when your mind is lying before our eyes cannot be quite right, either.

    My mind is as pure as the driven snow, which blinds your eyes accustomed to peering into the dark.

    We operate on the edge here; all of us. Arguably we expose humanity more clearly for what it is via uncensored interaction. We are all more like programmable computers than we realize.

    Speak for yourself, robot.

    Creatures of habit. Many here creatures attached to their own ideas; obsessed, we could say. Your own persistence is proven and your commitment to your idea is known, and that you have actually been quite direct in your communications suggests that you
    are authentic, but alas, as you have bothered to do the physical experiment you must realize that you've avoided some details.

    What lies. Typical. I have gone into the greatest details in my texts and videos. While all that creatures like you can do is lie, abuse, ignore, deny... at the kindest, you lot are cowardly careerists, frightened out of your wits for I show how wrong
    you all are. Personal attacks, threats, etc. are your strategies. Disgusting but I have got used to it.

    It would be wonderful if it were true though, and we all are just being pompous status quo preprogrammed bots. Here lays a tension, and were it possible I think we could hope for a new theoretical interpretation more along the lines of the awareness of
    Physfitfreak above. Experiment often leads theory, and at least you are not claiming a perpetual energy machine.

    The whole universe is in perpetual motion, unlike your dull mind. Fuck off.

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  • From Jeffrey Rubard@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Wed Sep 27 15:19:37 2023
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 2:13:16 PM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 00:10:59 UTC+10, Timothy Golden wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 6:50:55 AM UTC-4, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 7:00 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/21/2023 6:58 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 8/6/2023 11:14 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
    I don't know why you'd bring up energy-mass equivalence here.


    Sorry I've perhaps got other reasons as well to be pissed.
    Or perhaps I can make a concise form of the gist of what I said for posterity.

    Three examples:

    Distance is not "equivalent" to time. A factor of speed is tied in the relation it has with time, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Momentum is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of speed is tied in the relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    Kinetic energy is not "equivalent" to momentum. An additional factor of speed is tied in the relation it has with momentum, which cannot be taken as just a number.

    And likewise, energy is not "equivalent" to mass. A factor of not just speed of light, but a second degree speed of light, is tied in the relation it has with mass, which cannot be taken as just a number, regardless of the latter seemingly exhibiting the same value in measurements.

    In none of the statements above, you should mistake such realities with the "math" expressions of them in your head. Math has nothing to do with those realities. They are facts of nature, in and of themselves, with or without the tools of math at your disposal. Don't get them mixed up with the math form of their expressions you see on the paper!

    If someone is using the phrase, "energy-mass equivalence", he is just blabbering nonsense. He is trashing the existence of light and the feature of speed of it two times over. How can one trash that so easily?

    A Cro-Magnon human obviously can! But so what? Who cares? Cause human, Modern Human, does not trash the light and its speed in that relationship that energy and mass have with each other, TWO TIMES OVER. --
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    I have to give you credit here physfitfreak for breaking into the ground that Arindam is claiming to have broken.
    As I understand it he is claiming to have broken the conservation of momentum with an electromagnetic-mechanical system.
    Yes.
    As a gun backfires so does a rail gun,
    No.
    and yet he thinks his does not.
    He knows it does not.
    As I understand it this is the breakpoint.
    Yes.
    It breaks inertia, entropy, relativity, quantum theories, then big bang, black holes, dark matter, puts cold in star cores, makes the universe infinite, provides faster than light travel, cheap enetgy for for all time.
    Arindam: I agree that this is a mental breakage in your head. However I don't mean to be harmful. What would be best here is for you to reel it in, accept the mistake, and cover the ground again, more in the spirit of this post by the fit freak.
    I accept that I have been mistakenly educated by learned fools in the field of physics. High time to clean up their mistakes. And teach correct physics based upon updated Newtonian and Maxwellian approaches. I have made no mistake. I have made new
    inventions and discoveries that are ignored by the powers that be, despite my showing them in great detail on online media.

    This said, there is a larger issue. That you are alone in your pursuit eases the burden on us.
    And increases it upon me. My family and I have suffered a great deal from negligence by those who should have known and done better
    Yet what if the quantum computer is bunk? You are not funded to the tune of billions of dollars, promising a gain on market investments or some such.
    I have been hounded out of employment, got nothing but ridicule, got labelled as a crank... for my new ideas in physics. no I am not managing billions. Not even thousands. A few hundred, only from my savings. I understand that I am so persecuted to set
    an example to possible supporters. No one dares, thus, to support me.
    The sort of wrong that they commit to is by far worse than your own, presuming each to be a fraud.
    You are a fraud to suggest on no basis that I am wrong.
    Still, to claim you innocent when your mind is lying before our eyes cannot be quite right, either.
    My mind is as pure as the driven snow, which blinds your eyes accustomed to peering into the dark.
    We operate on the edge here; all of us. Arguably we expose humanity more clearly for what it is via uncensored interaction. We are all more like programmable computers than we realize.
    Speak for yourself, robot.
    Creatures of habit. Many here creatures attached to their own ideas; obsessed, we could say. Your own persistence is proven and your commitment to your idea is known, and that you have actually been quite direct in your communications suggests that
    you are authentic, but alas, as you have bothered to do the physical experiment you must realize that you've avoided some details.
    What lies. Typical. I have gone into the greatest details in my texts and videos. While all that creatures like you can do is lie, abuse, ignore, deny... at the kindest, you lot are cowardly careerists, frightened out of your wits for I show how wrong
    you all are. Personal attacks, threats, etc. are your strategies. Disgusting but I have got used to it.

    It would be wonderful if it were true though, and we all are just being pompous status quo preprogrammed bots. Here lays a tension, and were it possible I think we could hope for a new theoretical interpretation more along the lines of the awareness
    of Physfitfreak above. Experiment often leads theory, and at least you are not claiming a perpetual energy machine.
    The whole universe is in perpetual motion, unlike your dull mind. Fuck off.

    "Guys, I think your 'hoaxing' was more relevant in previous decades."

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Timothy Golden on Wed Sep 27 19:55:26 2023
    On 9/27/2023 9:10 AM, Timothy Golden wrote:
    I have to give you credit

    Go back to bed, lie down, and read Torah. Forget usenet exists.

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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Wed Sep 27 23:47:51 2023
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 10:55:31 UTC+10, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 9/27/2023 9:10 AM, Timothy Golden wrote:
    I have to give you credit
    Ask how much, Roachie.
    Maybe he will give you enough to get me bumped off.
    Go back to bed, lie down, and read Torah. Forget usenet exists.
    You sound miffed, roach.

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 2 20:02:39 2023
    Can_Srivastava Pankaj, Varshney R.K., Vijaya Prakash G. PLEASE step into a physics or chemistry lab and weigh the mass of Electrolysis Water, proving Water is H4O not H2O. AP's homegrown lab cannot do the fine tuning experiment of weighing a test tube of
    electrolyzed hydrogen and oxygen from water. If AP is correct Water is really H4O, not H2O. My weighing scale is puny and insufficient for the job at hand, 0.00001 gram or less of hydrogen and oxygen test tubes. If AP is correct the hydrogen is 1/4 the
    weight of oxygen, if mainstream chemistry, physics is correct the hydrogen is 1/8 in amu to oxygen.


    Can_Dr.Das Pintu,Dr.Shenoy M.R.,Dr.Bhatnagar M.C.,Dr.Chatterjee R., Dr.Chaudhary Sujeet, Indian Institute of Technology- please-step into the physics or chemistry lab and weigh the mass of Electrolysis Water, proving Water is H4O not H2O. Once weighed
    the hydrogen test tube should be 1/4 the weight of the oxygen test tube for H4O but if mainstream chemistry is correct then 1/8 atomic mass units. My weighing scales do not go up to 0.00001 gram, and sure that Indian Institute Technology has far better
    precision. Thanks

    I am sure India has plenty of Quartz Crystal MicroBalance scales.


    Indian Institute of Technology

    Physics dept. Anurag Sharma, Babu Sujin B, Banerjee Varsha, Bhattacharya Saswata, Bhatnagar M.C. , Chatterjee R., Chaudhary Sujeet, Das Pintu, Dhaka Rajendra S., Ghosh Joyee, Ghosh Pradipta, Ghosh Sankalpa, Ghosh Santanu, Joseph Joby, Kanseri Bhaskar,
    Kedar B Khare, Khare Neeraj, Kumar Sunil, Malik H.K., Mani Brajesh Kumar, Marathe Rahul, Mehta B.R. , Mehta D.S. , Mishra Amruta, Muduli P.K., Ravishankar V. , Reddy G.B. , Saxena Vikrant, Sengupta Amartya, Senthilkumaran P. ,Shenoy M.R. , Shukla A.K.,
    Singh J.P., Singh Rajendra, Sinha Aloka, Soni Ravi Kant, Srivastava Pankaj, Varshney R.K., Vijaya Prakash G.


    Spam mill echo chamber, that is Arindam Banerjee a decades long spammer of sci.physics with his hatred of science and the method of science. Hate, hate, anger and hate.

    Is Arindam Banerjee reflective, a reflection of why India never has a Nobel prize in chemistry or physics, for schizophrenic type of behavior-- one moment doing physics-- rail gun, next moment shouting that Apollo 11 was a staged hoax in Arizona desert
    and that the Sun and Earth cores are a frigid near 0 Kelvin temperature. Maybe all of Indian physics and chemistry is like this-- one moment doing science-- next moment hating science.


    Is Arindam Banerjee the reason ITT fails to have a Nobel winner in chemistry or physics? Like Arindam, his hatred of science is glooming large with his constant hatred of science-- Apollo 11 was a staged hoax, Sun core is a frigid near 0 Kelvin, the
    man is a lunatic of science, perhaps reflecting why India fails to achieve science honors.





    +Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within

    +Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within

    3m views Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium


    Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within the accuracy I need for weighing a test tube of oxygen then a test tube of hydrogen from water electrolysis.


    Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium

    In Old Chemistry and Old Physics, their subatomic particles were do nothing and no function and no job particles that sit around as balls or whiz around the outside of balls doing nothing but pointless circling.

    In New Physics and New Chemistry-- All is Atom and Atoms are nothing but electricity and magnetism. Every subatomic particle has a job a function a purpose as to the Laws of Electromagnetism--- Faraday law, Coulomb law, Ampere law, Capacitor law.

    A proton is a torus of 840MeV with 840 windings, while the muon is the true electron of Atoms and is encased inside the proton torus thrusting through and producing electricity-- magnetic monopoles.

    The neutron of Atoms is a parallel plate capacitor storing the electricity of proton+muon and is skin cover on the outside of the proton torus in the form of parallel plates.

    Can hydrogen be a Atom if it is just a proton+muon? No, all atoms require to have a capacitor such as at least one neutron. Thus the Hydrogen Atom is H2 where you have 2 proton+muon where 1 of the 2 proton+muon acts like a neutron to the other
    proton+muon. Thus, water molecule is not H2O but rather is H4O.

    AP is waiting for experimental chemists and physicists to prove him correct that Water is H4O.

    In the meantime we have Hydroxyl which in Old Chemistry, especially Biology is OH, while AP says that is wrong and that is really H2O.

    Now glycerine is a hydroxyl with formula C3H8O3. And what I am thinking at this moment, is that hydroxyls will be an easier proof that Water is truly H4O, rather than wait for experimentalists to actually "weigh the electrolysis test tubes of
    oxygen and hydrogen".

    You see, with H4O as water, glycerine is C3(2 waters)O with an extra oxygen. If Water is H2O then glycerine is C3(4 waters) deficit O. It is missing an oxygen if water is H2O.

    The reason glycerine is so effective as a skin ointment is because it has glycerine, the extra O oxygen. If water were H2O, then glycerine would be a missing oxygen and not a skin lotion that works, but makes skin even more dry.

    Proving Water is H4O, not H2O, and where hydroxyl is H2O// AP's 250th book TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY, by Archimedes Plutonium


    --- quoting in part from source-- Study.com ---
    Perhaps there is only two Faraday laws on Electrolysis. I am looking at the one that states: Faraday's first law of electrolysis relates the mass of a substance liberated (or deposited) at an electrode to the electric charge used (Q). A
    proportionality constant Z can be used:

    m = ZQ = (E/96485)(Q)

    m = mass, Q = total charge rewritten as Q = I*t amperes x time in seconds.

    This website gives an example: 5amps passed through molten Sodium Chloride for 3 hours. Calculate the mass of Sodium. E=23/1.

    m = (23/96485) (5) (3*60*60) approx 12.87 grams.

    --- end quoting in part from source-- Study.com ---

    Now has such a experiment been performed on Water to see how much atomic mass of hydrogen and of oxygen results??? If AP is correct, the formula of water is H4O, if Old Physics, Old Chemistry is correct the formula is H2O. So which is it???

    AP


    No, sorry no, Faraday's Law of Electrolysis is not going to tell the correct mass of hydrogen.

    Reading Wikipedia on Faraday's Electrolysis law.

    --- quoting Wikipedia ---
    A monovalent ion requires 1 electron for discharge, a divalent ion requires 2 electrons for discharge and so on. Thus, if x electrons flow,
    x/v atoms are discharged.

    So the mass m discharged is

    m= (xM)/vN_A) = (QM)/(eN_A *v) = (QM) / (vF)
    where
    N_A is the Avogadro constant;
    Q = xe is the total charge, equal to the number of electrons (x) times the elementary charge e;
    F is the Faraday constant.
    --- end quoting Wikipedia ---

    No, the Faraday law of Electrolysis will not work on water with a correct answer, because H is not an atom but H2 is an Atom. And where one of the proton+muon converts to being a neutron to the other proton+muon.

    So if Faraday's law of Electrolysis was applied to water, thinking it would deliver a true answer is mistaken because the one H converts to neutron.

    So it appears that we need to directly measure the test tube of oxygen and the test tube of hydrogen by a direct mass measurement.


    I doubt we can measure a test tube of hydrogen or test tube of oxygen, too small to determine the mass on some sort of weight scale.

    But here is a possible lucrative idea. We should be able to get pure deuterium water. Then run the electrolysis. Collect the test tubes.

    Now have some sort of balancing beam weight scale. Place the regular water of hydrogen test tube on one side, and place the deuterium water hydrogen test tube on other side. If they stay balanced, then AP is correct and Water is really H4O.

    Cosmic Rays from Sun

    90% of Sun's cosmic rays are 840MeV proton+muon inside = H. The hydrogen Atom is H2 where one of the H proton+muon converts to being a neutron.

    When these proton+muon hit Earth atmosphere, they can turn into pions and muons.

    I commented that H alone is a subatomic particle and that makes sense in the idea that Sun's cosmic rays are 90% these proton+muon.

    Now is interstellar hydrogen H2 and intergalactic hydrogen H2 formed when one H cosmic ray joins up with another H cosmic ray to form H2 atom?

    Is this how we get H2 in outer space? From the splitting apart of H2 into H cosmic rays?

    So how much of the Sun's hydrogen is H2 and how much is H ready to join with another H and reform back into H2. Probably little of the Sun's H is H alone, and the vast majority of the Sun's hydrogen is H2.

    How much deuterium in the Sun? And it is a higher percentage than the deuterium in water on Earth?

    Water is the only known non-metallic substance that expands when if freezes; its density decreases and it expands approximately 9% by volume. (Source: web Lunar and Planetary Institute)

    I have to wait for experimental chemists and physicists to weigh the mass of test tubes from electrolysis, as to the verdict-- water is H4O.

    But until that news comes in, I will look for other means of proof.

    So AP says that the H2 is not a molecule but is the hydrogen Atom itself, where one proton+muon converts to a neutron and capacitates the other proton+muon which undergo the Faraday law.

    There are subatomic particles of H in the form of Cosmic Rays from the Sun, but most of the Sun's hydrogen is H2, and flips back and forth from H to rejoining to form H2. Some gets away from the Sun and is cosmic rays.

    But H2 is an Atom and H is a fleeting subatomic particle.

    So can I prove Water is H4O from the data of Spectral lines of H2 is the same as deuterium, only slight difference is that the deuterium is a full fledged neutron not a makeshift proton+muon of H.

    I suspect that special trait of water freezing is a proof that Water is H4O. Because the 840MeV proton torus with muon inside doing the Faraday law acting as a makeshift neutron capacitor for the other 840MeV proton torus with muon inside, is
    where H2 gets that expansion characteristic.

    A neutron is a parallel plate capacitor and those plates can expand when frozen temperature occurs. As the temperature gets colder, those plates move further apart.

    Now does deuterium which truly has a full neutron, does it expand also when frozen?? If so, does it expand as much as H2 which is 2 protons with 2 muons inside?

    So comparing the freezing and expansion of the parallel plates of a neutron in deuterium with the freezing and expansion of one of the proton+muon that is acting as a makeshift neutron in H2.

    If I can numbers correlate the H2 expansion with the Deuterium expansion would be a alternative proof that Water is really H4O and not H2O.

    AP
    to
    So now on Blankenship's book "Molecular Mechanisms of Photosynthesis", 2014, page 134, shows The structure of ATP, ADP, AMP. And within that structure are OH hydroxyls.

    In New Chemistry, water is truly H4O, and where hydroxyls are now H2O. And we have first proof of this in the Figure 8.1 of Blankenship's "Chemical structure of ATP".

    For in the lower left corner of the diagram, Blankenship has a H+ all alone, (really a mindless error) and has P surrounded by O-, O-, O and OH. The OH is really H2O for hydroxyls are H2O and water itself is H4O, and that would leave that
    mindless H+ as being hydrogen Atom of H2.

    The world of physics and chemistry should drop what they are doing and weigh the electrolysis test tube of hydrogen and oxygen to discover the correct true formula of water is H4O.

    AP is total confident, becuase an Atom cannot exist if it has no capacitor structure such as a neutron, or one of the H in H2 acting as a neutron. I am totally confident that Water formula is truly H4O. And I need look only to methane of H4C, to
    realize that there is no HC, no H2C, no H3C, but starts with H4C, and that tells me water starts with H4O. Totally confident that Old Chemistry, Old Physics did electrolysis experiments and the moment they saw hydrogen test tube be 2x volume of oxygen
    test tube, they dropped their work and went out for a Danish and coffee break, rather than finish their work--- actual physics weighing of atomic mass units (not the Faraday electrolysis law for it does not apply to water).

    When water electrolysis is physics weighed, AP is confident that there are 4H per every one oxygen O. And that Water is truly H4O.


    On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 8:56:57 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    Now I see some of these electronic weighing scales are accurate to 0.00001 gram. I do not know if that is within the accuracy I need for weighing a test tube of oxygen then a test tube of hydrogen from water electrolysis.

    Now modern day physics and chemist experimenters can really do a marvelous job if they wanted to. For they could freeze the test tubes of oxygen and hydrogen to where they are liquid and compare liquids from water electrolysis.

    So, what AP is saying here is that we do electrolysis of water. We collect the two test tubes, one with oxygen the other with hydrogen.

    To prove Water is truly the formula H4O and not H2O we must weigh the masses of the two tubes to find that the ratio is 1 x 16amu to 4 x 1amu.

    The silly grotesque science error of the past was to look at volumes in the two test tubes-- "Hey-- the hydrogen is twice the volume of oxygen so the formula of water is H2O".

    No, way was that science good practice. For the correct formula of water needs to be measured by mass, by atomic mass units where Oxygen is 16amu and hydrogen is 1amu.

    I suspect a balance beam scale is good enough to see the hydrogen test tube will be 1/4 as massive as the oxygen test tube. To get within precision of electronic weighing scale of 0.00001 gram we just have to make a larger test tube of
    electrolysis of water.

    AP is betting that the readings will be hydrogen test tube 1/4 the mass of oxygen test tube proving Water formula is truly H4O.

    Old Physics and Old Chemistry is betting that the mass experiment will have the hydrogen test tube be 1/8 the mass of the oxygen test tube, proving Water formula is H2O.

    AP does not have these precision equipment to conduct an at-home experiment of this nature.

    So, once Water is found to actually be H4O, not H2O, we move on to methane, and ask the same question of its hydrogen bonds. Is Methane really that of H8C and not H4C.

    Well, looking in the literature for anomalies to methane, I come across a arXiv "Low and high-temperature anomalies in the physical properties of solid methane "The anomalous behavior of thermodynamic, spectral, plastic, elastic and some other
    properties of solid methane is discussed near 20.48K and...

    AP wonders: if they can get methane to solid form, well, I am then hopeful that the mass of the molecule can be determined. Because if methane is truly H8C, that difference of H4 in atomic mass units would be very much noticeable difference.

    Chemistry Europe--
    "The Anomalous Deuterium Isotope Effect in the NMR Spectrum of Methane...

    P Vermeeren, 2023
    "The abnormally long and weak methylidyne C-H bond.."
    "The C-H bond of the methylidyne radical, CH*, is abnormally long and weak, even longer and..."

    AP asks, are these anomalies solved if we consider methane is actually H8C and not H4C?

    AP


    My 250th published book.

    TEACHING TRUE CHEMISTRY; H2 is the hydrogen Atom and water is H4O, not H2O// Chemistry
    by Archimedes Plutonium (Author) (Amazon's Kindle)
    Prologue: This textbook is 1/2 research history and 1/2 factual textbook combined as one textbook. For many of the experiments described here-in have not yet been performed, such as water is really H4O not H2O. Written in a style of history research
    with date-time markers, and fact telling. And there are no problem sets. This book is intended for 1st year college. Until I include problem sets and exercises, I leave it to the professor and instructor to provide such. And also, chemistry is hugely a
    laboratory science, even more so than physics, so a first year college student in the lab to test whether Water is really H4O and not H2O is mighty educational.

    Preface: This is my 250th book of science, and the first of my textbooks on Teaching True Chemistry. I have completed the Teaching True Physics and the Teaching True Mathematics textbook series. But had not yet started on a Teaching True Chemistry
    textbook series. What got me started on this project is the fact that no chemistry textbook had the correct formula for water which is actually H4O and not H2O. Leaving the true formula for hydroxyl groups as H2O and not OH. But none of this is possible
    in Old Chemistry, Old Physics where they had do-nothing subatomic particles that sit around and do nothing or go whizzing around the outside of balls in a nucleus, in a mindless circling. Once every subatomic particle has a job, task, function, then
    water cannot be H2O but rather H4O. And a hydrogen atom cannot be H alone but is actually H2. H2 is not a molecule of hydrogen but a full fledged Atom, a single atom of hydrogen.

    Cover Picture: Sorry for the crude sketch work but chemistry and physics students are going to have to learn to make such sketches in a minute or less. Just as they make Lewis diagrams or ball & stick diagrams. My 4-5 minute sketch-work of the Water
    molecule H4O plus the subatomic particle H, and the hydrogen atom H2. Showing how one H is a proton torus with muon inside (blue color) doing the Faraday law. Protons are toruses with many windings. Protons are the coils in Faraday law while muons are
    the bar magnets. Neutrons are the capacitors as parallel plates, the outer skin cover of atoms.

    Product details
    • ASIN ‏ : ‎ B0CCLPTBDG
    • Publication date ‏ : ‎ July 21, 2023
    • Language ‏ : ‎ English
    • File size ‏ : ‎ 788 KB
    • Text-to-Speech ‏ : ‎ Enabled
    • Screen Reader ‏ : ‎ Supported
    • Enhanced typesetting ‏ : ‎ Enabled
    • X-Ray ‏ : ‎ Not Enabled
    • Word Wise ‏ : ‎ Enabled
    • Sticky notes ‏ : ‎ On Kindle Scribe
    • Print length ‏ : ‎ 168 pages






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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Archimedes Plutonium on Mon Oct 2 20:34:07 2023
    On Tuesday, 3 October 2023 at 14:02:43 UTC+11, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    Can_Srivastava Pankaj, Varshney R.K., Vijaya Prakash G. PLEASE step into a physics or chemistry lab and weigh the mass of Electrolysis Water, proving Water is H4O not H2O. AP's homegrown lab cannot do the fine tuning experiment of weighing a test tube
    of electrolyzed hydrogen and oxygen from water. If AP is correct Water is really H4O, not H2O. My weighing scale is puny and insufficient for the job at hand, 0.00001 gram or less of hydrogen and oxygen test tubes. If AP is correct the hydrogen is 1/4
    the weight of oxygen, if mainstream chemistry, physics is correct the hydrogen is 1/8 in amu to oxygen.

    stop begging, Archie.


    Can_Dr.Das Pintu,Dr.Shenoy M.R.,Dr.Bhatnagar M.C.,Dr.Chatterjee R., Dr.Chaudhary Sujeet, Indian Institute of Technology- please-step into the physics or chemistry lab and weigh the mass of Electrolysis Water, proving Water is H4O not H2O. Once weighed
    the hydrogen test tube should be 1/4 the weight of the oxygen test tube for H4O but if mainstream chemistry is correct then 1/8 atomic mass units. My weighing scales do not go up to 0.00001 gram, and sure that Indian Institute Technology has far better
    precision. Thanks

    stop begging, Archie.
    Show some spine.

    Spam mill echo chamber, that is Arindam Banerjee a decades long spammer of sci.physics with his hatred of science and the method of science. Hate, hate, anger and hate.

    Quit lying, Archie. Don't project your sad attitudes and bad manners upon me.

    Is Arindam Banerjee reflective, a reflection of why India never has a Nobel prize in chemistry or physics, for schizophrenic type of behavior-- one moment doing physics-- rail gun, next moment shouting that Apollo 11 was a staged hoax in Arizona desert
    and that the Sun and Earth cores are a frigid near 0 Kelvin temperature. Maybe all of Indian physics and chemistry is like this-- one moment doing science-- next moment hating science.

    It so happens that Indian scientists have to go through a lot to get a career with a decent income, and so they have to be careful.
    They will support the greatest genius that I am when they think it is safe for their careers to do so.
    They are not inconvenienced by their racism and bigotry as primary reasons for suppressing my new ideas in physics as is the norm among the Western careerists.
    So, some hope there.


    Is Arindam Banerjee the reason ITT fails to have a Nobel winner in chemistry or physics?

    Nobel Prizes were and are a racket, for Eurocentric colonial-missionary-loot practices. Now outdated and useless, with new facts and ideas open for all, online.
    Not a monopoly any more, what.
    Nobody should care for the Nobel Prize, a feel-good racket for some rich creatures.
    They mean nothing.


    Like Arindam, his hatred of science is glooming large with his constant hatred of science-- Apollo 11 was a staged hoax, Sun core is a frigid near 0 Kelvin, the man is a lunatic of science, perhaps reflecting why India fails to achieve science honors.

    Good, it means that Indians are not falling for wrong and bad western notions of the ways the universe works.
    Good, good.
    It will be a while before Indians have the guts to accept my new ideas in physics.

    Till then, it is fun and only fun without the need to go directly teach, for Arindam (bin Einstein ban Gandhi) Banerjee, greatest genius of all time, sole god among lotsa devils.
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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 5 17:16:37 2023
    Finally an end to summer as I see many leaves falling for Autumn, and we even had several days in a row of 33Celsius, hot days in first week of October. Glad I kept the air conditioner still operational and not stored away.

    And we have some more rain. I do not know whether rain in Autumn is worthwhile for plants to get ready for next Spring. Whether rain in Autumn is the worst time of year to have rain??? This needs science research.

    Another thing I like to have researched is how far away mice have to be relocated so they do not come back into the house. What is the range of mice for their home, is the question I am asking. For this year I trap at least 3 mice a night and relocate
    the next day a far distance. I do not know if any of them are what I call "repeat offenders" knowing where my house is and coming back. I do not want to so to speak paint a color onto their fur to find out if they are repeat offenders. I am happy enough
    just relocating them. Nature needs them more than my house. And this is the trouble of home construction-- probably 99.9% of houses in the entire world are ___Not mouse and animal proof____. In fact, the way most houses in the USA are built, were built
    for the lovely convenience of mice, possums, raccoons, bats to find and live in. Why, even this year, for the first time, I saw a snake wriggling across the vinyl floor. So, I mean, home construction in the USA is pitiful and pathethic as far as making
    them animal proof.

    But I want to discuss watermelons today, as I am almost out of them. And for 3 years in a row now, I think it was 3, maybe just 2, I have had a beautiful harvest. I save the seeds of the melons I eat and plant them on the ground come warm Spring. They
    seem to crowd out the weeds, but they do need watering everyday in my climate. But one note I want to make is that late in the season the fruit is not solid, but rather has a "sandy" texture. And so I will try to explore and examine this "sandy" texture
    fruit in future harvests? Is it purely when the fruit is picked, for early on, the fruit was "solid firm" and that is the best watermelon.

    I have small watermelons the size of large grapefruits and I simply cut them in half and spoon out the flesh, saving the seeds. I have at least two varieties-- red, and the white flesh.

    Glad I finally solved the riddle of growing Watermelon. They need daily attention, is my past mistake. With daily attention-- watering, a few weed pulling, the watermelon is a huge success.

    AP

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 17 15:09:28 2023
    Fortunately in these last few days of Autumn I see one Argiope garden spider-- probably 2 as the smaller spider climbing that concrete block is likely a male Argiope in my Google logo picture. I will retain this logo picture until that book is published.

    I use Argiope as a biological measuring of our Sun Gone Red Giant Phase, and where we have only about 1,000 years to colonize Europa or else all life from Earth goes extinct and into oblivion. We are destined to be another Venus like planet as the Sun
    goes more Red Giant.

    So the Solar Radiation Increases were 0.005% for the past 10 years, and spiders out in the Sun cannot cope with that. They are killed or if survive, they spin erratic webs.

    I am also doing potato harvest and good that I planted some because most of the stores no longer carry Organic grown potatoes. And on the subject of potatoes, it is baffling to me that potatoes native indigenous home are the mountains of South America,
    yet they seem to die quickly when cold weather starts.

    I am going to start experimenting this winter on growing potatoes indoors, see if successful or not. If successful I may grow potatoes indoors year round.

    I am doing black walnut harvest, but leaving most to the squirrels.

    AP, King of Science

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 19 16:53:05 2023
    Last night on NATURE was "The Platypus Guardian:: Peter Walsh's mission is to observe the platypus while helping to save them from urban development"

    Sweet sweet story, and we need many many more animal stories like this.

    This story is near the Tasmania city of Hobart. If you missed it, I recommend watching it on Sunday night.

    Right now I am interested in garden spiders Argiope and their battle with increasing Sun radiation. I wish someone did a full hour on Argiope plight. I used to have more than 10 on my south wall at home, now I have none.

    AP

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 30 22:39:26 2023
    Every year so far has been a disappointment to me in transitioning from Fall to Winter. I usually like to start with checking the roofs and gutters to endure a winter. Then draining the hoses and storing them away. Then draining water tanks before any
    frost. Then weeding out strawberry beds and adding a layer of pine needles for winter.

    And so far, in 23 years of living here, I have always been caught short of that preparation.

    So next year, 2024, I vow to not make that mistake again.

    But this year I add something new to the preparation. To place as many large pots of strawberries, onions and other plants into the house near a window as makeshift greenhouse.

    Last year I had potted plants in another building along with cats. And by springtime the cats had clawed the plants to death.

    I love to see green strawberries, onions, chives near every window, so this is a good idea.

    AP

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 16 17:56:45 2023
    Can_Dr.Chaudhary Sujeet,Dr.Banerjee Varsha,Dr.Anurag Sharma,Dr.Babu Sujin B, - -PLEASE--step into Indian Institute Technology physics or chemistry lab and weigh the mass of Electrolysis Water, proving Water is H4O not H2O. AP's homegrown lab cannot do
    the fine tuning experiment of weighing a test tube of electrolyzed hydrogen and oxygen from water. If AP is correct Water is really H4O, not H2O. My weighing scale is puny and insufficient for the job at hand, 0.00001 gram or less of hydrogen and oxygen
    test tubes. If AP is correct the hydrogen is 1/4 the weight of oxygen, if mainstream chemistry, physics is correct the hydrogen is 1/8 in amu to oxygen.



    The spamming crazy fruitcake of Arindam Banerjee--his failure in physics and mind-rot opinions of physics, actually hostile towards physics-- his denial of Apollo 11, as some staged hoax from Hollywood or Bollywood.

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    The physics aphorisms of Arindam - repost
    Wrong and wasteful investments like going to Mars with rockets, and having bigger jet engines
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    A photon is a brief pulse of electromagnetic radiation, of high frequency, seen as an electromagnetic
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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Archimedes Plutonium on Thu Nov 16 18:24:18 2023
    On Friday, 17 November 2023 at 12:56:49 UTC+11, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:

    Arindam Banerjee

    who now composes the following about Archie.

    Nothing decent; an asshole art thou -
    Rude, ignorant, devoid of shame;
    Unfit to kneel before a cow,
    Thou creature of low infame!

    Note: "infame" was used in the English language in the 1500s, following the French original.

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to Arindam Banerjee on Sat Nov 18 15:24:54 2023
    Melbourne Uni Dr.Quiney and McCallum is Banerjee correct in saying the Moon landing of 1969 by Apollo 11 was staged in Australia's Cooper Creek with actors from Uni Melbourne, along the Burke & Wills picnic trails?

    Arindam Banerjee anti-science posts such as this insane post:

    When will they admit that 1969 moon landings were done in some US desert?
    180 views
    On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 3:33:18 AM UTC-6, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
    Those three robots did not even land on the moon, assuming they got there, and that is a reasonable assumption maybe.




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