• What Did the U.S. Get for $2 Trillion in Afghanistan? (Published 20

    From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 24 02:34:36 2021
    XPost: soc.culture.china, talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Septal, <news:[email protected]>
    On 08/17/2021 03:15 PM, Byker wrote:

    western nations just can't DO that anymore. We've
    become too civilized to fight the uncivilized. OUR
    defenses are aimed at OTHER big nations. Nukes and
    bombers and tanks to counter nukes and bombers and
    tanks. Big stuff. Keeps the general peace, but it
    is almost useless for the Taliban or al-Qaida or
    ISIS and similar groups. Russia was more effective
    against ISIS than we were because they were far
    less concerned about collateral damage. We didn't
    ask and they didn't tell.

    Americans were reluctant to truly fight ISIS, especially at the
    early stage, because they saw it not only as a terrorist group,
    but also as a useful tool against the Syrian government, so they
    didn't rush to eliminate ISIS in order to 'allow' them to fight
    against the Syrian government.

    When Russia sent military support to Syria, the Russian planes
    started attacking ISIS for real, and it also somewhat stimulated
    the Americans to start fighting ISIS for more real.

    And the claims that the Russian military absolutely do not care
    about collateral damage is rather a traditional narrative of the
    American and British propaganda.

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 24 16:08:14 2021
    XPost: soc.culture.china, talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Oleg Smirnov, <news:sg1bes$nk3$[email protected]>
    Septal, <news:[email protected]>

    ISIS and similar groups. Russia was more effective
    against ISIS than we were because they were far
    less concerned about collateral damage. We didn't
    ask and they didn't tell.

    Americans were reluctant to truly fight ISIS, especially at the
    early stage, because they saw it not only as a terrorist group,
    but also as a useful tool against the Syrian government, so they
    didn't rush to eliminate ISIS in order to 'allow' them to fight
    against the Syrian government.

    When Russia sent military support to Syria, the Russian planes
    started attacking ISIS for real, and it also somewhat stimulated
    the Americans to start fighting ISIS for more real.

    Details and proofs of what I've said one can learn by these links: <https://tinyurl.com/ckyy8mmd>
    <https://tinyurl.com/4rtxcdy2>

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