• Hamas's Savagery on October 7: Guest Post by Adam Mossoff

    From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 21 08:09:43 2024
    XPost: alt.security.terrorism, soc.culture.israel, uk.legal

    https://reason.com/volokh/2024/07/20/hamass-savagery-on-october-7-guest-post-by-adam-mossoff/

    Hamas's Savagery on October 7: Guest Post by Adam Mossoff
    DAVID BERNSTEIN | 7.20.2024 12:50 PM

    [Note from DB: On our lawprof trip to Israel, we were offered the
    opportunity to watch a compilation of Hamas atrocities on October 7th. I declined. I saw just a bit of this footage back in October, and it was sufficiently searing that I did not want to revisit the experience, and
    I certainly needed no persuading that Hamas is a theocratic death cult
    that should be erased from the earth. But my colleague Adam Mossoff did
    watch the footage, and here is his report.]
    On Day 3 (July 11) of the law professor mission to Israel, we had the opportunity to watch the 45-minute film of the Hamas atrocities on
    October 7 that was created primarily from the GoPro cameras worn by the
    Hamas soldiers, but also includes footage from security cameras and
    CCTV. During the attacks, the Hamas soldiers uploaded their GoPro videos
    to the internet and blasted them out on social media to hundreds of
    thousands of Israelis' social media accounts on October 7. The IDF
    spokesperson unit spent two days taking thousands upon thousands of
    these videos down from the internet.

    I will not describe or detail any of the film's horrors, and so you can
    read this post knowing that you will not be ambushed with a nightmare
    that will haunt you for the rest of your days. I will say the film is
    horrific. In fact, it's beyond horrific. But if one is to bear witness
    to evil so that one can better defend the good (Israel) and speak out
    against evil (genocidal antisemitism and supporters of this nihilism in
    the West), one must know the evil of which one speaks. Thus, I
    considered it important for me to see the film, but given the shocking
    and sickening content of this film, I don't begrudge anyone not watching it.


    Here's some background context and general information about the film:
    The IDF created this film in November 2023 given worldwide denials of
    the atrocities committed by Hamas on October 7. Similar to the Holocaust denials that began in 1945 and continue to this day, the denial of the
    vile atrocities committed by Hamas on October 7 began on October 8 and
    continue to this day. It's not just denial of murders of children and
    babies and other war crimes as "Israeli propaganda." There's also the
    denial of the rape and sexual violence committed by Hamas soldiers on
    October 7, which has prompted Sheryl Sandberg to create her first
    documentary as her own act of bearing witness to October 7. It's called, "Screams Before Silence," and if you have not yet seen it, I recommend
    doing so (https://www.screamsbeforesilence.com/).

    Given its content, the film is closely controlled by the IDF. I already
    knew this from an opportunity I had last November to see it, which I
    declined at the time. One can only see the film through an application,
    a special invitation, or to be invited to a showing for specific
    audiences, such as political leaders or media industry representatives
    who have been invited to watch it. We saw it last week given that we
    were in Israel as a fact-finding mission about October 7. Before we saw
    it, we had to sign a special agreement not to share any images nor
    specific details that could be traced back to specific victims. We were
    also prohibited from having any electronic devices in the room and we
    had to store our phones in special lockers outside the room.

    We later learned that not even all of the IDF spokespeople have seen it,
    as it has a security clearance rating of "need to know." It appears that
    the primary reason for this extreme restriction on the film is the
    observance of the religious rules in Judaism and social norms in Israel
    about respecting the dignity of the deceased, which I described in my
    last post about October 7 and how Hamas deliberately sought to violate
    these rules and norms through explicit acts of desecration and
    destruction of its victims on October 7. Among those of us on the
    mission who were speaking with the IDF spokespeople about this, we were
    of one mind in telling them that Israel would be best served by
    releasing the film without restrictions, like documentaries about the
    Holocaust like "Night and Fog" that contain Nazi films of pits filled
    with bodies, as well as other scenes of body parts or death. Israel is
    in an existential war on multiple fronts right now, and in such
    emergency conditions, regular rules or norms that apply during normal
    life should be relaxed to accommodate the exigent circumstances.

    As I mentioned, I won't describe anything I saw in the film, but I would
    still like to share a few general observations about it. First, the pure
    glee expressed by the Hamas soldiers. Throughout the film, the Hamas
    soldiers are constantly shouting expressions of joy and excitement in
    what they are doing to their victims. They are not torturing or
    murdering out of necessity, nor is this the work of soldiers who are
    merely defending territory from an invasion. It was very clear from the
    first few moments of the film that they took pleasure in what they did.
    They celebrated it – during and after October 7. Many of us have seen
    the videos shared on the internet of civilians in Gaza who rushed to the
    trucks or SUVs to take pictures and beat the dead bodies or living
    hostages, shouting with glee and celebration. The Hamas soldiers were
    equally effusive and jubilant about the ghastly atrocities they
    deliberately committed on October 7 – and they proudly broadcast this by creating and sharing their GoPro videos with the whole world.

    Second, the film of the GoPro videos makes it very clear that Hamas is a theocratic authoritarian regime in Gaza, not merely a dictatorship or a freestanding terrorist organization like Hezbollah or the Houthis. The
    Hamas soldiers expressed their glee and joy by constantly proclaiming
    "Glory to God!" ("Allah Ackbar!). One hears this more times than I could
    count, although I was frozen by the horrors of what I was witnessing and
    so I was not capable of counting at the time. Hamas is an authoritarian
    Islamic theocracy that rules over Gaza (it was elected into power when
    Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2006 and then it took). Thus, Hamas is like
    Iran, the Taliban (Afghanistan), the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt from 2011-2013, and ISIS in Syria and Iraq from 2014-2019. There have been non-ideological dictatorships in the Middle East, such as Saddam Hussein
    in Iraq and Bashar Al-Assad in Syria, but that is not Hamas.

    This is important to understand and fully appreciate: October 7 was not
    about any grievances over land or alleged abuses by the Israeli
    government over the Palestinians. Hamas seeks the genocidal destruction
    of both Jews and Israel, just as its financial and military Iran, which
    is reported to have had a direct role in the planning and approval of
    the October 7 atrocities. This explains more than anything the
    atrocities and war crimes of October 7. Hamas is dedicated to the
    genocidal evil of the death of all Jews and the destruction of all of
    Israel.

    Third, and last, the Palestinian culture considers dogs to be disgusting
    filth, and this is conveyed in the film as well. I had previously read
    articles and seen a few videos about how the many stray dogs in Gaza are
    viewed as nuisances and pests, and that Palestinians regularly kill or
    torture these dogs. They kill or torture dogs because they view dogs as
    not even befitting any respect for life. One does not have to be a "dog
    person" like I am to think this is deeply disturbing. There is valid
    reason for the famous dictum that dogs are "man's best friend."

    I say this because the Palestinian's horrible view of dogs is on full
    display in the film of the GoPro videos made by the Hamas soldiers. The
    most common insult one hears in the film, it is a refrain that is second
    only to the shouts of "Allah Ackbar," is the one that the Hamas soldiers constantly scream at the Jews they are shooting and slaughtering: "You
    are dogs!"

    It is a well-known fact in human history that people who commit mass
    murder explicitly dehumanize the people they are killing. The Nazis did
    this, for example, by labeling Jews as rats, vermin, and as a subspecies separate from Aryan humans. Hamas now does it by labeling Jews as dogs,
    which may seem strange to someone in the West who is unaware of the
    rat-like status that dogs apparently have in Palestinian culture.
    (Another example of this is found in this video (https://x.com/LizaRosen0000/status/1811955884966203632…) of an
    interview with an old Palestinian woman who says, "Jews are dogs.")

    For all these reasons, the film is especially horrific and searing psychologically and emotionally. Hamas sent 3000 soldiers to invade
    Israel for the purpose of murder, torture, rape, and kidnapping of
    innocent people (about 1,450 babies, children, and adults). This fact is
    bad enough by itself, but these soldiers did not commit their war crimes dispassionately or out of a sense of military duty. They committed their atrocities willingly, happily, and with effusive expressions of glory.
    The film is a window into a human capacity for evil that I knew only in
    the abstract from my historical study of the Holocaust or the Killing
    Fields of the Khmer Rouge, but, based on what I know, the Nazi or Khmer
    Rouge soldiers did not revel in and enthusiastically celebrate their
    murders and atrocities. The Hamas soldiers did.

    When the film concluded, I was in psychological shock. I had been and
    continued to cry. My hands were shaking, and I felt almost physically
    numb. I also felt a sense of detachment from my body and my
    surroundings. I still vividly remember holding my right hand out flat in
    front of me and watching it tremble and shake, as if I had just
    over-exerted myself in a workout at the gym, despite my having sat still
    in an air-conditioned room for the past hour. After a break, we met with
    IDF lawyers and then continued the mission with lunch and more meetings
    with lawyers from NGOs and others, but it took me several hours to
    recover from the shock.

    This was all a week ago, and the shock has long since worn off, but that
    film will be with me for the rest of my life. I hope that I can now use
    my writing and speaking skills as a professor and advocate to help in my
    own way by speaking truth to the vicious lies and propaganda of the
    pro-Hamas activists in the U.S. and the West. Let no one be mistaken
    what the slogans "from the river to the sea" and "intifada" truly mean,
    and what the flags of Hamas and Hezbollah that are now regularly flown
    at the protests in the U.S. and Europe mean. These all represent a pure
    and unadulterated nihilism that many of us in the West have a hard time
    fully understanding. This is not just antisemitism, and will not end
    with Jews or Israel. I hope the U.S. wakes up to this fact before its continuing appeasement of Iran results in Iran obtaining a nuclear
    weapon, because after watching the film of the October 7 atrocities, I
    think I know what will happen when it does.

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Sun Jul 21 13:05:37 2024
    XPost: alt.security.terrorism, soc.culture.israel, uk.legal

    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://reason.com/volokh/2024/07/20/hamass-savagery-on-october-7-guest-post-by-adam-mossoff/

    Hamas's Savagery on October 7: Guest Post by Adam Mossoff
    DAVID BERNSTEIN | 7.20.2024 12:50 PM

    [Note from DB: On our lawprof trip to Israel, we were offered the
    opportunity to watch a compilation of Hamas atrocities on October 7th. I >declined. I saw just a bit of this footage back in October, and it was >sufficiently searing that I did not want to revisit the experience, and
    I certainly needed no persuading that Hamas is a theocratic death cult
    that should be erased from the earth. But my colleague Adam Mossoff did
    watch the footage, and here is his report.]
    On Day 3 (July 11) of the law professor mission to Israel, we had the >opportunity to watch the 45-minute film of the Hamas atrocities on
    October 7 that was created primarily from the GoPro cameras worn by the
    Hamas soldiers, but also includes footage from security cameras and
    CCTV. During the attacks, the Hamas soldiers uploaded their GoPro videos
    to the internet and blasted them out on social media to hundreds of
    thousands of Israelis' social media accounts on October 7. The IDF >spokesperson unit spent two days taking thousands upon thousands of
    these videos down from the internet.

    I will not describe or detail any of the film's horrors, and so you can
    read this post knowing that you will not be ambushed with a nightmare
    that will haunt you for the rest of your days. I will say the film is >horrific. In fact, it's beyond horrific. But if one is to bear witness
    to evil so that one can better defend the good (Israel) and speak out
    against evil (genocidal antisemitism and supporters of this nihilism in
    the West), one must know the evil of which one speaks. Thus, I
    considered it important for me to see the film, but given the shocking
    and sickening content of this film, I don't begrudge anyone not watching it.


    Here's some background context and general information about the film:
    The IDF created this film in November 2023 given worldwide denials of
    the atrocities committed by Hamas on October 7. Similar to the Holocaust >denials that began in 1945 and continue to this day, the denial of the
    vile atrocities committed by Hamas on October 7 began on October 8 and >continue to this day. It's not just denial of murders of children and
    babies and other war crimes as "Israeli propaganda." There's also the
    denial of the rape and sexual violence committed by Hamas soldiers on
    October 7, which has prompted Sheryl Sandberg to create her first
    documentary as her own act of bearing witness to October 7. It's called, >"Screams Before Silence," and if you have not yet seen it, I recommend
    doing so (https://www.screamsbeforesilence.com/).

    Given its content, the film is closely controlled by the IDF. I already
    knew this from an opportunity I had last November to see it, which I
    declined at the time. One can only see the film through an application,
    a special invitation, or to be invited to a showing for specific
    audiences, such as political leaders or media industry representatives
    who have been invited to watch it. We saw it last week given that we
    were in Israel as a fact-finding mission about October 7. Before we saw
    it, we had to sign a special agreement not to share any images nor
    specific details that could be traced back to specific victims. We were
    also prohibited from having any electronic devices in the room and we
    had to store our phones in special lockers outside the room.

    We later learned that not even all of the IDF spokespeople have seen it,
    as it has a security clearance rating of "need to know." It appears that
    the primary reason for this extreme restriction on the film is the
    observance of the religious rules in Judaism and social norms in Israel
    about respecting the dignity of the deceased, which I described in my
    last post about October 7 and how Hamas deliberately sought to violate
    these rules and norms through explicit acts of desecration and
    destruction of its victims on October 7. Among those of us on the
    mission who were speaking with the IDF spokespeople about this, we were
    of one mind in telling them that Israel would be best served by
    releasing the film without restrictions, like documentaries about the >Holocaust like "Night and Fog" that contain Nazi films of pits filled
    with bodies, as well as other scenes of body parts or death. Israel is
    in an existential war on multiple fronts right now, and in such
    emergency conditions, regular rules or norms that apply during normal
    life should be relaxed to accommodate the exigent circumstances.

    As I mentioned, I won't describe anything I saw in the film, but I would >still like to share a few general observations about it. First, the pure
    glee expressed by the Hamas soldiers. Throughout the film, the Hamas
    soldiers are constantly shouting expressions of joy and excitement in
    what they are doing to their victims. They are not torturing or
    murdering out of necessity, nor is this the work of soldiers who are
    merely defending territory from an invasion. It was very clear from the
    first few moments of the film that they took pleasure in what they did.
    They celebrated it � during and after October 7. Many of us have seen
    the videos shared on the internet of civilians in Gaza who rushed to the >trucks or SUVs to take pictures and beat the dead bodies or living
    hostages, shouting with glee and celebration. The Hamas soldiers were
    equally effusive and jubilant about the ghastly atrocities they
    deliberately committed on October 7 � and they proudly broadcast this by >creating and sharing their GoPro videos with the whole world.

    Second, the film of the GoPro videos makes it very clear that Hamas is a >theocratic authoritarian regime in Gaza, not merely a dictatorship or a >freestanding terrorist organization like Hezbollah or the Houthis. The
    Hamas soldiers expressed their glee and joy by constantly proclaiming
    "Glory to God!" ("Allah Ackbar!). One hears this more times than I could >count, although I was frozen by the horrors of what I was witnessing and
    so I was not capable of counting at the time. Hamas is an authoritarian >Islamic theocracy that rules over Gaza (it was elected into power when
    Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2006 and then it took). Thus, Hamas is like >Iran, the Taliban (Afghanistan), the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt from >2011-2013, and ISIS in Syria and Iraq from 2014-2019. There have been >non-ideological dictatorships in the Middle East, such as Saddam Hussein
    in Iraq and Bashar Al-Assad in Syria, but that is not Hamas.

    This is important to understand and fully appreciate: October 7 was not
    about any grievances over land or alleged abuses by the Israeli
    government over the Palestinians. Hamas seeks the genocidal destruction
    of both Jews and Israel, just as its financial and military Iran, which
    is reported to have had a direct role in the planning and approval of
    the October 7 atrocities. This explains more than anything the
    atrocities and war crimes of October 7. Hamas is dedicated to the
    genocidal evil of the death of all Jews and the destruction of all of
    Israel.

    Third, and last, the Palestinian culture considers dogs to be disgusting >filth, and this is conveyed in the film as well. I had previously read >articles and seen a few videos about how the many stray dogs in Gaza are >viewed as nuisances and pests, and that Palestinians regularly kill or >torture these dogs. They kill or torture dogs because they view dogs as
    not even befitting any respect for life. One does not have to be a "dog >person" like I am to think this is deeply disturbing. There is valid
    reason for the famous dictum that dogs are "man's best friend."

    I say this because the Palestinian's horrible view of dogs is on full
    display in the film of the GoPro videos made by the Hamas soldiers. The
    most common insult one hears in the film, it is a refrain that is second
    only to the shouts of "Allah Ackbar," is the one that the Hamas soldiers >constantly scream at the Jews they are shooting and slaughtering: "You
    are dogs!"

    It is a well-known fact in human history that people who commit mass
    murder explicitly dehumanize the people they are killing. The Nazis did
    this, for example, by labeling Jews as rats, vermin, and as a subspecies >separate from Aryan humans. Hamas now does it by labeling Jews as dogs,
    which may seem strange to someone in the West who is unaware of the
    rat-like status that dogs apparently have in Palestinian culture.
    (Another example of this is found in this video >(https://x.com/LizaRosen0000/status/1811955884966203632�) of an
    interview with an old Palestinian woman who says, "Jews are dogs.")

    For all these reasons, the film is especially horrific and searing >psychologically and emotionally. Hamas sent 3000 soldiers to invade
    Israel for the purpose of murder, torture, rape, and kidnapping of
    innocent people (about 1,450 babies, children, and adults). This fact is
    bad enough by itself, but these soldiers did not commit their war crimes >dispassionately or out of a sense of military duty. They committed their >atrocities willingly, happily, and with effusive expressions of glory.
    The film is a window into a human capacity for evil that I knew only in
    the abstract from my historical study of the Holocaust or the Killing
    Fields of the Khmer Rouge, but, based on what I know, the Nazi or Khmer
    Rouge soldiers did not revel in and enthusiastically celebrate their
    murders and atrocities. The Hamas soldiers did.

    When the film concluded, I was in psychological shock. I had been and >continued to cry. My hands were shaking, and I felt almost physically
    numb. I also felt a sense of detachment from my body and my
    surroundings. I still vividly remember holding my right hand out flat in >front of me and watching it tremble and shake, as if I had just
    over-exerted myself in a workout at the gym, despite my having sat still
    in an air-conditioned room for the past hour. After a break, we met with
    IDF lawyers and then continued the mission with lunch and more meetings
    with lawyers from NGOs and others, but it took me several hours to
    recover from the shock.

    This was all a week ago, and the shock has long since worn off, but that
    film will be with me for the rest of my life. I hope that I can now use
    my writing and speaking skills as a professor and advocate to help in my
    own way by speaking truth to the vicious lies and propaganda of the
    pro-Hamas activists in the U.S. and the West. Let no one be mistaken
    what the slogans "from the river to the sea" and "intifada" truly mean,
    and what the flags of Hamas and Hezbollah that are now regularly flown
    at the protests in the U.S. and Europe mean. These all represent a pure
    and unadulterated nihilism that many of us in the West have a hard time
    fully understanding. This is not just antisemitism, and will not end
    with Jews or Israel. I hope the U.S. wakes up to this fact before its >continuing appeasement of Iran results in Iran obtaining a nuclear
    weapon, because after watching the film of the October 7 atrocities, I
    think I know what will happen when it does.

    The only godly way to win the war against bigotry and terrorism is by
    lifting up our Messiah as our #1 Example of living
    http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Luke 24:42-3) which we do when we http://go.WDJW.net/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12) to be http://bit.ly/Wonderfully_Hungrier more blessed by GOD right now (Luke
    6:21a).

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry for food right now (Luke 6:21a) and
    hope you, Michael, and others reading this, also have a healthy
    appetite for food right now too.

    So how are you ?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to HeartDoc Andrew on Sun Jul 21 13:39:04 2024
    XPost: alt.security.terrorism, soc.culture.israel, uk.legal

    HeartDoc Andrew wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://reason.com/volokh/2024/07/20/hamass-savagery-on-october-7-guest-post-by-adam-mossoff/

    Hamas's Savagery on October 7: Guest Post by Adam Mossoff
    DAVID BERNSTEIN | 7.20.2024 12:50 PM

    [Note from DB: On our lawprof trip to Israel, we were offered the
    opportunity to watch a compilation of Hamas atrocities on October 7th. I
    declined. I saw just a bit of this footage back in October, and it was
    sufficiently searing that I did not want to revisit the experience, and
    I certainly needed no persuading that Hamas is a theocratic death cult
    that should be erased from the earth. But my colleague Adam Mossoff did
    watch the footage, and here is his report.]
    On Day 3 (July 11) of the law professor mission to Israel, we had the
    opportunity to watch the 45-minute film of the Hamas atrocities on
    October 7 that was created primarily from the GoPro cameras worn by the
    Hamas soldiers, but also includes footage from security cameras and
    CCTV. During the attacks, the Hamas soldiers uploaded their GoPro videos
    to the internet and blasted them out on social media to hundreds of
    thousands of Israelis' social media accounts on October 7. The IDF
    spokesperson unit spent two days taking thousands upon thousands of
    these videos down from the internet.

    I will not describe or detail any of the film's horrors, and so you can
    read this post knowing that you will not be ambushed with a nightmare
    that will haunt you for the rest of your days. I will say the film is
    horrific. In fact, it's beyond horrific. But if one is to bear witness
    to evil so that one can better defend the good (Israel) and speak out
    against evil (genocidal antisemitism and supporters of this nihilism in
    the West), one must know the evil of which one speaks. Thus, I
    considered it important for me to see the film, but given the shocking
    and sickening content of this film, I don't begrudge anyone not watching it. >>

    Here's some background context and general information about the film:
    The IDF created this film in November 2023 given worldwide denials of
    the atrocities committed by Hamas on October 7. Similar to the Holocaust
    denials that began in 1945 and continue to this day, the denial of the
    vile atrocities committed by Hamas on October 7 began on October 8 and
    continue to this day. It's not just denial of murders of children and
    babies and other war crimes as "Israeli propaganda." There's also the
    denial of the rape and sexual violence committed by Hamas soldiers on
    October 7, which has prompted Sheryl Sandberg to create her first
    documentary as her own act of bearing witness to October 7. It's called,
    "Screams Before Silence," and if you have not yet seen it, I recommend
    doing so (https://www.screamsbeforesilence.com/).

    Given its content, the film is closely controlled by the IDF. I already
    knew this from an opportunity I had last November to see it, which I
    declined at the time. One can only see the film through an application,
    a special invitation, or to be invited to a showing for specific
    audiences, such as political leaders or media industry representatives
    who have been invited to watch it. We saw it last week given that we
    were in Israel as a fact-finding mission about October 7. Before we saw
    it, we had to sign a special agreement not to share any images nor
    specific details that could be traced back to specific victims. We were
    also prohibited from having any electronic devices in the room and we
    had to store our phones in special lockers outside the room.

    We later learned that not even all of the IDF spokespeople have seen it,
    as it has a security clearance rating of "need to know." It appears that
    the primary reason for this extreme restriction on the film is the
    observance of the religious rules in Judaism and social norms in Israel
    about respecting the dignity of the deceased, which I described in my
    last post about October 7 and how Hamas deliberately sought to violate
    these rules and norms through explicit acts of desecration and
    destruction of its victims on October 7. Among those of us on the
    mission who were speaking with the IDF spokespeople about this, we were
    of one mind in telling them that Israel would be best served by
    releasing the film without restrictions, like documentaries about the
    Holocaust like "Night and Fog" that contain Nazi films of pits filled
    with bodies, as well as other scenes of body parts or death. Israel is
    in an existential war on multiple fronts right now, and in such
    emergency conditions, regular rules or norms that apply during normal
    life should be relaxed to accommodate the exigent circumstances.

    As I mentioned, I won't describe anything I saw in the film, but I would
    still like to share a few general observations about it. First, the pure
    glee expressed by the Hamas soldiers. Throughout the film, the Hamas
    soldiers are constantly shouting expressions of joy and excitement in
    what they are doing to their victims. They are not torturing or
    murdering out of necessity, nor is this the work of soldiers who are
    merely defending territory from an invasion. It was very clear from the
    first few moments of the film that they took pleasure in what they did.
    They celebrated it – during and after October 7. Many of us have seen
    the videos shared on the internet of civilians in Gaza who rushed to the
    trucks or SUVs to take pictures and beat the dead bodies or living
    hostages, shouting with glee and celebration. The Hamas soldiers were
    equally effusive and jubilant about the ghastly atrocities they
    deliberately committed on October 7 – and they proudly broadcast this by >> creating and sharing their GoPro videos with the whole world.

    Second, the film of the GoPro videos makes it very clear that Hamas is a
    theocratic authoritarian regime in Gaza, not merely a dictatorship or a
    freestanding terrorist organization like Hezbollah or the Houthis. The
    Hamas soldiers expressed their glee and joy by constantly proclaiming
    "Glory to God!" ("Allah Ackbar!). One hears this more times than I could
    count, although I was frozen by the horrors of what I was witnessing and
    so I was not capable of counting at the time. Hamas is an authoritarian
    Islamic theocracy that rules over Gaza (it was elected into power when
    Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2006 and then it took). Thus, Hamas is like
    Iran, the Taliban (Afghanistan), the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt from
    2011-2013, and ISIS in Syria and Iraq from 2014-2019. There have been
    non-ideological dictatorships in the Middle East, such as Saddam Hussein
    in Iraq and Bashar Al-Assad in Syria, but that is not Hamas.

    This is important to understand and fully appreciate: October 7 was not
    about any grievances over land or alleged abuses by the Israeli
    government over the Palestinians. Hamas seeks the genocidal destruction
    of both Jews and Israel, just as its financial and military Iran, which
    is reported to have had a direct role in the planning and approval of
    the October 7 atrocities. This explains more than anything the
    atrocities and war crimes of October 7. Hamas is dedicated to the
    genocidal evil of the death of all Jews and the destruction of all of
    Israel.

    Third, and last, the Palestinian culture considers dogs to be disgusting
    filth, and this is conveyed in the film as well. I had previously read
    articles and seen a few videos about how the many stray dogs in Gaza are
    viewed as nuisances and pests, and that Palestinians regularly kill or
    torture these dogs. They kill or torture dogs because they view dogs as
    not even befitting any respect for life. One does not have to be a "dog
    person" like I am to think this is deeply disturbing. There is valid
    reason for the famous dictum that dogs are "man's best friend."

    I say this because the Palestinian's horrible view of dogs is on full
    display in the film of the GoPro videos made by the Hamas soldiers. The
    most common insult one hears in the film, it is a refrain that is second
    only to the shouts of "Allah Ackbar," is the one that the Hamas soldiers
    constantly scream at the Jews they are shooting and slaughtering: "You
    are dogs!"

    It is a well-known fact in human history that people who commit mass
    murder explicitly dehumanize the people they are killing. The Nazis did
    this, for example, by labeling Jews as rats, vermin, and as a subspecies
    separate from Aryan humans. Hamas now does it by labeling Jews as dogs,
    which may seem strange to someone in the West who is unaware of the
    rat-like status that dogs apparently have in Palestinian culture.
    (Another example of this is found in this video
    (https://x.com/LizaRosen0000/status/1811955884966203632…) of an
    interview with an old Palestinian woman who says, "Jews are dogs.")

    For all these reasons, the film is especially horrific and searing
    psychologically and emotionally. Hamas sent 3000 soldiers to invade
    Israel for the purpose of murder, torture, rape, and kidnapping of
    innocent people (about 1,450 babies, children, and adults). This fact is
    bad enough by itself, but these soldiers did not commit their war crimes
    dispassionately or out of a sense of military duty. They committed their
    atrocities willingly, happily, and with effusive expressions of glory.
    The film is a window into a human capacity for evil that I knew only in
    the abstract from my historical study of the Holocaust or the Killing
    Fields of the Khmer Rouge, but, based on what I know, the Nazi or Khmer
    Rouge soldiers did not revel in and enthusiastically celebrate their
    murders and atrocities. The Hamas soldiers did.

    When the film concluded, I was in psychological shock. I had been and
    continued to cry. My hands were shaking, and I felt almost physically
    numb. I also felt a sense of detachment from my body and my
    surroundings. I still vividly remember holding my right hand out flat in
    front of me and watching it tremble and shake, as if I had just
    over-exerted myself in a workout at the gym, despite my having sat still
    in an air-conditioned room for the past hour. After a break, we met with
    IDF lawyers and then continued the mission with lunch and more meetings
    with lawyers from NGOs and others, but it took me several hours to
    recover from the shock.

    This was all a week ago, and the shock has long since worn off, but that
    film will be with me for the rest of my life. I hope that I can now use
    my writing and speaking skills as a professor and advocate to help in my
    own way by speaking truth to the vicious lies and propaganda of the
    pro-Hamas activists in the U.S. and the West. Let no one be mistaken
    what the slogans "from the river to the sea" and "intifada" truly mean,
    and what the flags of Hamas and Hezbollah that are now regularly flown
    at the protests in the U.S. and Europe mean. These all represent a pure
    and unadulterated nihilism that many of us in the West have a hard time
    fully understanding. This is not just antisemitism, and will not end
    with Jews or Israel. I hope the U.S. wakes up to this fact before its
    continuing appeasement of Iran results in Iran obtaining a nuclear
    weapon, because after watching the film of the October 7 atrocities, I
    think I know what will happen when it does.

    The only godly way to win the war against bigotry and terrorism is by
    lifting up our Messiah as our #1 Example of living http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Luke 24:42-3) which we do when we http://go.WDJW.net/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12) to be http://bit.ly/Wonderfully_Hungrier more blessed by GOD right now (Luke 6:21a).

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry for food right now (Luke 6:21a) and
    hope you, Michael, and others reading this, also have a healthy
    appetite for food right now too.

    So how are you ?

    I am wonderfully hungry!


    Michael

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Sun Jul 21 19:23:30 2024
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    Michael Ejercito wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://reason.com/volokh/2024/07/20/hamass-savagery-on-october-7-guest-post-by-adam-mossoff/

    Hamas's Savagery on October 7: Guest Post by Adam Mossoff
    DAVID BERNSTEIN | 7.20.2024 12:50 PM

    [Note from DB: On our lawprof trip to Israel, we were offered the
    opportunity to watch a compilation of Hamas atrocities on October 7th. I >>> declined. I saw just a bit of this footage back in October, and it was
    sufficiently searing that I did not want to revisit the experience, and
    I certainly needed no persuading that Hamas is a theocratic death cult
    that should be erased from the earth. But my colleague Adam Mossoff did
    watch the footage, and here is his report.]
    On Day 3 (July 11) of the law professor mission to Israel, we had the
    opportunity to watch the 45-minute film of the Hamas atrocities on
    October 7 that was created primarily from the GoPro cameras worn by the
    Hamas soldiers, but also includes footage from security cameras and
    CCTV. During the attacks, the Hamas soldiers uploaded their GoPro videos >>> to the internet and blasted them out on social media to hundreds of
    thousands of Israelis' social media accounts on October 7. The IDF
    spokesperson unit spent two days taking thousands upon thousands of
    these videos down from the internet.

    I will not describe or detail any of the film's horrors, and so you can
    read this post knowing that you will not be ambushed with a nightmare
    that will haunt you for the rest of your days. I will say the film is
    horrific. In fact, it's beyond horrific. But if one is to bear witness
    to evil so that one can better defend the good (Israel) and speak out
    against evil (genocidal antisemitism and supporters of this nihilism in
    the West), one must know the evil of which one speaks. Thus, I
    considered it important for me to see the film, but given the shocking
    and sickening content of this film, I don't begrudge anyone not watching it.


    Here's some background context and general information about the film:
    The IDF created this film in November 2023 given worldwide denials of
    the atrocities committed by Hamas on October 7. Similar to the Holocaust >>> denials that began in 1945 and continue to this day, the denial of the
    vile atrocities committed by Hamas on October 7 began on October 8 and
    continue to this day. It's not just denial of murders of children and
    babies and other war crimes as "Israeli propaganda." There's also the
    denial of the rape and sexual violence committed by Hamas soldiers on
    October 7, which has prompted Sheryl Sandberg to create her first
    documentary as her own act of bearing witness to October 7. It's called, >>> "Screams Before Silence," and if you have not yet seen it, I recommend
    doing so (https://www.screamsbeforesilence.com/).

    Given its content, the film is closely controlled by the IDF. I already
    knew this from an opportunity I had last November to see it, which I
    declined at the time. One can only see the film through an application,
    a special invitation, or to be invited to a showing for specific
    audiences, such as political leaders or media industry representatives
    who have been invited to watch it. We saw it last week given that we
    were in Israel as a fact-finding mission about October 7. Before we saw
    it, we had to sign a special agreement not to share any images nor
    specific details that could be traced back to specific victims. We were
    also prohibited from having any electronic devices in the room and we
    had to store our phones in special lockers outside the room.

    We later learned that not even all of the IDF spokespeople have seen it, >>> as it has a security clearance rating of "need to know." It appears that >>> the primary reason for this extreme restriction on the film is the
    observance of the religious rules in Judaism and social norms in Israel
    about respecting the dignity of the deceased, which I described in my
    last post about October 7 and how Hamas deliberately sought to violate
    these rules and norms through explicit acts of desecration and
    destruction of its victims on October 7. Among those of us on the
    mission who were speaking with the IDF spokespeople about this, we were
    of one mind in telling them that Israel would be best served by
    releasing the film without restrictions, like documentaries about the
    Holocaust like "Night and Fog" that contain Nazi films of pits filled
    with bodies, as well as other scenes of body parts or death. Israel is
    in an existential war on multiple fronts right now, and in such
    emergency conditions, regular rules or norms that apply during normal
    life should be relaxed to accommodate the exigent circumstances.

    As I mentioned, I won't describe anything I saw in the film, but I would >>> still like to share a few general observations about it. First, the pure >>> glee expressed by the Hamas soldiers. Throughout the film, the Hamas
    soldiers are constantly shouting expressions of joy and excitement in
    what they are doing to their victims. They are not torturing or
    murdering out of necessity, nor is this the work of soldiers who are
    merely defending territory from an invasion. It was very clear from the
    first few moments of the film that they took pleasure in what they did.
    They celebrated it � during and after October 7. Many of us have seen
    the videos shared on the internet of civilians in Gaza who rushed to the >>> trucks or SUVs to take pictures and beat the dead bodies or living
    hostages, shouting with glee and celebration. The Hamas soldiers were
    equally effusive and jubilant about the ghastly atrocities they
    deliberately committed on October 7 � and they proudly broadcast this by >>> creating and sharing their GoPro videos with the whole world.

    Second, the film of the GoPro videos makes it very clear that Hamas is a >>> theocratic authoritarian regime in Gaza, not merely a dictatorship or a
    freestanding terrorist organization like Hezbollah or the Houthis. The
    Hamas soldiers expressed their glee and joy by constantly proclaiming
    "Glory to God!" ("Allah Ackbar!). One hears this more times than I could >>> count, although I was frozen by the horrors of what I was witnessing and >>> so I was not capable of counting at the time. Hamas is an authoritarian
    Islamic theocracy that rules over Gaza (it was elected into power when
    Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2006 and then it took). Thus, Hamas is like >>> Iran, the Taliban (Afghanistan), the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt from
    2011-2013, and ISIS in Syria and Iraq from 2014-2019. There have been
    non-ideological dictatorships in the Middle East, such as Saddam Hussein >>> in Iraq and Bashar Al-Assad in Syria, but that is not Hamas.

    This is important to understand and fully appreciate: October 7 was not
    about any grievances over land or alleged abuses by the Israeli
    government over the Palestinians. Hamas seeks the genocidal destruction
    of both Jews and Israel, just as its financial and military Iran, which
    is reported to have had a direct role in the planning and approval of
    the October 7 atrocities. This explains more than anything the
    atrocities and war crimes of October 7. Hamas is dedicated to the
    genocidal evil of the death of all Jews and the destruction of all of
    Israel.

    Third, and last, the Palestinian culture considers dogs to be disgusting >>> filth, and this is conveyed in the film as well. I had previously read
    articles and seen a few videos about how the many stray dogs in Gaza are >>> viewed as nuisances and pests, and that Palestinians regularly kill or
    torture these dogs. They kill or torture dogs because they view dogs as
    not even befitting any respect for life. One does not have to be a "dog
    person" like I am to think this is deeply disturbing. There is valid
    reason for the famous dictum that dogs are "man's best friend."

    I say this because the Palestinian's horrible view of dogs is on full
    display in the film of the GoPro videos made by the Hamas soldiers. The
    most common insult one hears in the film, it is a refrain that is second >>> only to the shouts of "Allah Ackbar," is the one that the Hamas soldiers >>> constantly scream at the Jews they are shooting and slaughtering: "You
    are dogs!"

    It is a well-known fact in human history that people who commit mass
    murder explicitly dehumanize the people they are killing. The Nazis did
    this, for example, by labeling Jews as rats, vermin, and as a subspecies >>> separate from Aryan humans. Hamas now does it by labeling Jews as dogs,
    which may seem strange to someone in the West who is unaware of the
    rat-like status that dogs apparently have in Palestinian culture.
    (Another example of this is found in this video
    (https://x.com/LizaRosen0000/status/1811955884966203632�) of an
    interview with an old Palestinian woman who says, "Jews are dogs.")

    For all these reasons, the film is especially horrific and searing
    psychologically and emotionally. Hamas sent 3000 soldiers to invade
    Israel for the purpose of murder, torture, rape, and kidnapping of
    innocent people (about 1,450 babies, children, and adults). This fact is >>> bad enough by itself, but these soldiers did not commit their war crimes >>> dispassionately or out of a sense of military duty. They committed their >>> atrocities willingly, happily, and with effusive expressions of glory.
    The film is a window into a human capacity for evil that I knew only in
    the abstract from my historical study of the Holocaust or the Killing
    Fields of the Khmer Rouge, but, based on what I know, the Nazi or Khmer
    Rouge soldiers did not revel in and enthusiastically celebrate their
    murders and atrocities. The Hamas soldiers did.

    When the film concluded, I was in psychological shock. I had been and
    continued to cry. My hands were shaking, and I felt almost physically
    numb. I also felt a sense of detachment from my body and my
    surroundings. I still vividly remember holding my right hand out flat in >>> front of me and watching it tremble and shake, as if I had just
    over-exerted myself in a workout at the gym, despite my having sat still >>> in an air-conditioned room for the past hour. After a break, we met with >>> IDF lawyers and then continued the mission with lunch and more meetings
    with lawyers from NGOs and others, but it took me several hours to
    recover from the shock.

    This was all a week ago, and the shock has long since worn off, but that >>> film will be with me for the rest of my life. I hope that I can now use
    my writing and speaking skills as a professor and advocate to help in my >>> own way by speaking truth to the vicious lies and propaganda of the
    pro-Hamas activists in the U.S. and the West. Let no one be mistaken
    what the slogans "from the river to the sea" and "intifada" truly mean,
    and what the flags of Hamas and Hezbollah that are now regularly flown
    at the protests in the U.S. and Europe mean. These all represent a pure
    and unadulterated nihilism that many of us in the West have a hard time
    fully understanding. This is not just antisemitism, and will not end
    with Jews or Israel. I hope the U.S. wakes up to this fact before its
    continuing appeasement of Iran results in Iran obtaining a nuclear
    weapon, because after watching the film of the October 7 atrocities, I
    think I know what will happen when it does.

    The only godly way to win the war against bigotry and terrorism is by
    lifting up our Messiah as our #1 Example of living
    http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Luke 24:42-3) which we do when we
    http://go.WDJW.net/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12) to be
    http://bit.ly/Wonderfully_Hungrier more blessed by GOD right now (Luke
    6:21a).

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry for food right now (Luke 6:21a) and
    hope you, Michael, and others reading this, also have a healthy
    appetite for food right now too.

    So how are you ?

    I am wonderfully hungry!

    While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
    8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, are rapture ready (Luke
    17:37 means no COVID just as eagles circling over their food have no
    COVID) and pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6)
    Father in Heaven continues to give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy
    Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have much more of His Help to
    always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways
    including especially caring to "convince it forward" (John 15:12) with
    all glory (Psalm112:1) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in
    the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO !

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 21 19:26:53 2024
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    (Sheryl) 07/21/24 Again not a LoosePeeledMemoryQuackBigot...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/Ai33hw5PINI/m/wytVpY68MwAJ

    Instead be "woke" to the sin of racial prejudice:

    https://tinyurl.com/JesusIsWoke (i.e. not a Nazi bigot) *and* risen!!!

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  • From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 21 20:02:23 2024
    XPost: alt.security.terrorism, soc.culture.israel, uk.legal

    Quack = SHEIN = Anita = sub-louse yidoid PAEDO BARRY Z. SHEINabout 10
    hours ago
    ReplyPermalinkOn Sun, 21 Jul 2024 08:09:43 -0700, NOT Michael Ejercito

    https://reason.com/volokh/2024/07/20/hamass-savagery-on-october-7-guest-post-by-adam-mossoff/
    Hamas's Savagery on October 7: Guest Post by Adam Mossoff
    DAVID BERNSTEIN | 7.20.2024 12:50 PM
    A pair of jews.
    Dismissed.
    We dismiss the idea that you are an honorable, decent person!


    Michael

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