• Suicide rates are now the highest they have been in England for 25 year

    From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 22 20:58:50 2024
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    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1caolm0/the_rise_in_suicide_suicide_rates_are_now_the/

    The rise in suicide
    Suicide rates are now the highest they have been in England for 25 years.

    LAURA DODSWORTH
    APR 20, 2024

    Suicide rates are now the highest they have been in England for 25 years.

    The Office for National Statistics (ONS) has released the latest report
    of quarterly suicide death registrations in England for Quarter 4
    (October to December) of 2023. Unfortunately, it shows a 6% rise, which
    is the highest national rate of suicides since 1999. There were 1,439
    suicides registered in Quarter 4, equivalent to 11.4 suicide deaths per
    100,000 people. Overall there were 5,579 suicides registered in England,
    which is significantly higher than 2021 and 2020.

    It’s difficult to attribute causes to individual suicides, as well as
    trends. While it is important to to be responsible and circumspect when speculating, this notable and recent upshift in suicide deaths should be analysed and monitored.

    Share

    The ONS figures need to be interpreted with some caution because there
    is a delay in coronial inquests, meaning that only 39.3% of the deaths registered in 2023 had a date of death in the same year, and some of the
    deaths occurred in 2022 and 2021. Crucially, this means that we should
    be cautious about making conclusions for 2023 at the moment as there
    will still be a large number of suicides that occurred in 2023 which
    have not yet been registered.

    So what might have caused the trend? Professor Louis Appleby who chairs
    the National Suicide Prevention Strategy Advisory Group has commented on
    the uptick in suicides on Twitter. He suggested that the likeliest cause
    is the economic downturn and cost of living crisis. Historically
    recessions cause suicide rates to increase. The North East, North West
    and East of England have seen the most significant increases in suicide,
    but the North East, Midlands and London are actually the three regions
    with the highest levels of poverty, so this theory does not necessarily
    tally up neatly. The significant jump in the North West specifically
    might indicate a change in the way deaths have been recorded. The
    economic effect Appleby proposes would also not easily explain that the increase for women was greatest in the over 60s.

    Could there be another factor? Appleby has zoned in on the economy for
    obvious and sound reasons, but has so far ignored a key factor.

    In April 2021, Professor Appleby was the Lead Author of the report
    ‘Suicide in England in the COVID-19 pandemic: Early observational data
    from real time surveillance’, analysing ’real time surveillance’ (RTS)
    of suspected suicides during the pandemic and lockdowns. Despite greater distress, the study did not find evidence of an increase in suicide
    rates. Ensuing ONS month by month data for 2020 and 2021 also showed no increase in suicides.

    There was a vital caveat which needed to applied to this data which,
    although present within the ONS report, wasn’t given much weight by
    people who endorsed the findings: it was too early to be sure. Suicide
    is a verdict given by a coronial court, and does not operate in ‘real time’. Some courts were running almost a year behind on case load during
    the pandemic. This was not something to be ignored in favour of real
    time data — the coronial verdict is not simply a rubber stamping
    process. Analysis based on real time surveillance might have delivered a reassuring answer at the time to people who wanted to believe that the pandemic, lockdowns and other distressing NPIs didn’t ultimately lead to
    the most tragic consequences, but it was too soon to deliver a verdict.

    Indeed, Appleby’s tweet thread on 12th April 2023, just over a year ago,
    was confident in its assumptions:

    ‘New @ONS data give us, for first time, national suicide rates month by
    month for Covid years 2020 & 2021, compared to earlier years. Graph
    shows no rise in these years overall, or any month, or any period of
    pandemic, including lockdown.

    What can we learn from this?

    It may tell us something about the protective power of social cohesion,
    of looking out for each other, of community, with its message of
    acceptance & concern.

    If so, we need to hang on to it. It hasn’t looked in strong supply lately.

    It may confirm something we saw after the 2008 recession, the
    life-saving impact of economic support - for people on benefits or in
    debt or fearing for their jobs & homes.

    Particularly important as we head further into the cost of living crisis.

    It reminds us to look at the evidence, no matter what the headlines claim.

    Or the Twitter “likes”.

    Or the academics who should know better.

    Or the current attempt at revisionism in the media.'

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    In a National Confidential Inquiry into Suicide and Safety in Mental
    Health presentation, Appleby suggested a number of reasons why suicide
    had not increased. Despite the obvious anxiety about Covid-19, the tough lockdowns, economic ramifications and huge societal changes, he believed
    people were protected due to a combination of:

    economic protections;

    a supposed increase in social cohesion;

    increased vigilance and support from family, friends and neighbours;

    reduced access to certain methods of suicide;

    a sense of short-term crisis.

    These could well have prevented the rise in suicide at the time, but conclusions from previous analyses of other disasters warn that the rise
    in suicide does not occur during the disaster, but afterwards. The lack
    of rise in suicides was in keeping with disaster literature. A
    subsequent increase in suicide - as we see happening now - is also in
    keeping with disaster literature.


    In the early psychological phases of disaster — ‘heroic’ and ‘honeymoon’
    — you would not expect to see more suicides. They come afterwards. In
    the case of a ‘slow disaster’ like Covid-19, this could be some time afterwards.

    To receive all new posts and support my work, please subscribe.

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    At the time, Professor Lucy Easthope, the country’s leading authority on disaster and recovery, commented that the real time surveillance data
    was very useful, but that more attention should be given to the role of
    the coronial process as well as the underreporting of possible suicides
    which can be recorded as either an open verdict or crucially a narrative verdict which allows the coroner to expand on the additional factors
    that led to death. Ultimately, she concluded, real time death data could
    be unreliable.

    She is now concerned now that ‘post-disaster conditions that may promote hopelessness are all increased, including economic instability, domestic violence, depression and alcohol use’ and that ‘we appear to have
    incubated a real sense of nihilism and hopelessness in younger people’.

    It’s a frustrating stage of the Covid-19 saga. Warnings at the time were ignored and it is painful for experts such as Easthope to observe the
    impact on the public of chronic disaster and delayed support for
    physical and mental health, not to mention the toll on response workers
    who ‘tend to feel let down and morally injured by the state’.

    ‘It’s particularly important to consider long-term suicide when risk assessing economic policies,’ says Easthope. ‘Things like furlough
    schemes have positives but also come with substantial emotional
    negatives such as future redundancy, effects on self-worth, esteem and
    purpose. All disaster decisions come with negatives, there are no purely perfect answers. Discussion of the negatives was not welcomed and people
    like me were seen as pessimistic if we raised suicide as a result of
    Cabinet or Treasury decisions. It was very hard to get traction in 2020
    and 2021 with these concerns.’

    Whether suicide rates go up or go down, they are preventable and they
    are always too high. It’s a tragedy for suicide rates to be the highest
    in England for 25 years. If the pandemic and the never-before-used
    lockdowns turn out to be a factor in this devastating trend, we could
    well see the rates rise further.

    Share

    According to the Samaritans one in five of us have experienced suicidal thoughts. If you’re going through a tough time, you don’t have to face
    it alone. Call Samaritans day or night on 116 123. Email [email protected].

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Tue Apr 23 00:51:45 2024
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    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1caolm0/the_rise_in_suicide_suicide_rates_are_now_the/

    The rise in suicide
    Suicide rates are now the highest they have been in England for 25 years.

    LAURA DODSWORTH
    APR 20, 2024

    Suicide rates are now the highest they have been in England for 25 years.

    The Office for National Statistics (ONS) has released the latest report
    of quarterly suicide death registrations in England for Quarter 4
    (October to December) of 2023. Unfortunately, it shows a 6% rise, which
    is the highest national rate of suicides since 1999. There were 1,439 >suicides registered in Quarter 4, equivalent to 11.4 suicide deaths per >100,000 people. Overall there were 5,579 suicides registered in England, >which is significantly higher than 2021 and 2020.

    It�s difficult to attribute causes to individual suicides, as well as
    trends. While it is important to to be responsible and circumspect when >speculating, this notable and recent upshift in suicide deaths should be >analysed and monitored.

    Share

    The ONS figures need to be interpreted with some caution because there
    is a delay in coronial inquests, meaning that only 39.3% of the deaths >registered in 2023 had a date of death in the same year, and some of the >deaths occurred in 2022 and 2021. Crucially, this means that we should
    be cautious about making conclusions for 2023 at the moment as there
    will still be a large number of suicides that occurred in 2023 which
    have not yet been registered.

    So what might have caused the trend? Professor Louis Appleby who chairs
    the National Suicide Prevention Strategy Advisory Group has commented on
    the uptick in suicides on Twitter. He suggested that the likeliest cause
    is the economic downturn and cost of living crisis. Historically
    recessions cause suicide rates to increase. The North East, North West
    and East of England have seen the most significant increases in suicide,
    but the North East, Midlands and London are actually the three regions
    with the highest levels of poverty, so this theory does not necessarily
    tally up neatly. The significant jump in the North West specifically
    might indicate a change in the way deaths have been recorded. The
    economic effect Appleby proposes would also not easily explain that the >increase for women was greatest in the over 60s.

    Could there be another factor? Appleby has zoned in on the economy for >obvious and sound reasons, but has so far ignored a key factor.

    In April 2021, Professor Appleby was the Lead Author of the report
    �Suicide in England in the COVID-19 pandemic: Early observational data
    from real time surveillance�, analysing �real time surveillance� (RTS)
    of suspected suicides during the pandemic and lockdowns. Despite greater >distress, the study did not find evidence of an increase in suicide
    rates. Ensuing ONS month by month data for 2020 and 2021 also showed no >increase in suicides.

    There was a vital caveat which needed to applied to this data which,
    although present within the ONS report, wasn�t given much weight by
    people who endorsed the findings: it was too early to be sure. Suicide
    is a verdict given by a coronial court, and does not operate in �real
    time�. Some courts were running almost a year behind on case load during
    the pandemic. This was not something to be ignored in favour of real
    time data � the coronial verdict is not simply a rubber stamping
    process. Analysis based on real time surveillance might have delivered a >reassuring answer at the time to people who wanted to believe that the >pandemic, lockdowns and other distressing NPIs didn�t ultimately lead to
    the most tragic consequences, but it was too soon to deliver a verdict.

    Indeed, Appleby�s tweet thread on 12th April 2023, just over a year ago,
    was confident in its assumptions:

    �New @ONS data give us, for first time, national suicide rates month by
    month for Covid years 2020 & 2021, compared to earlier years. Graph
    shows no rise in these years overall, or any month, or any period of >pandemic, including lockdown.

    What can we learn from this?

    It may tell us something about the protective power of social cohesion,
    of looking out for each other, of community, with its message of
    acceptance & concern.

    If so, we need to hang on to it. It hasn�t looked in strong supply lately.

    It may confirm something we saw after the 2008 recession, the
    life-saving impact of economic support - for people on benefits or in
    debt or fearing for their jobs & homes.

    Particularly important as we head further into the cost of living crisis.

    It reminds us to look at the evidence, no matter what the headlines claim.

    Or the Twitter �likes�.

    Or the academics who should know better.

    Or the current attempt at revisionism in the media.'

    Type your email...
    Subscribe
    In a National Confidential Inquiry into Suicide and Safety in Mental
    Health presentation, Appleby suggested a number of reasons why suicide
    had not increased. Despite the obvious anxiety about Covid-19, the tough >lockdowns, economic ramifications and huge societal changes, he believed >people were protected due to a combination of:

    economic protections;

    a supposed increase in social cohesion;

    increased vigilance and support from family, friends and neighbours;

    reduced access to certain methods of suicide;

    a sense of short-term crisis.

    These could well have prevented the rise in suicide at the time, but >conclusions from previous analyses of other disasters warn that the rise
    in suicide does not occur during the disaster, but afterwards. The lack
    of rise in suicides was in keeping with disaster literature. A
    subsequent increase in suicide - as we see happening now - is also in
    keeping with disaster literature.


    In the early psychological phases of disaster � �heroic� and �honeymoon�
    � you would not expect to see more suicides. They come afterwards. In
    the case of a �slow disaster� like Covid-19, this could be some time >afterwards.

    To receive all new posts and support my work, please subscribe.

    Type your email...
    Subscribe
    At the time, Professor Lucy Easthope, the country�s leading authority on >disaster and recovery, commented that the real time surveillance data
    was very useful, but that more attention should be given to the role of
    the coronial process as well as the underreporting of possible suicides
    which can be recorded as either an open verdict or crucially a narrative >verdict which allows the coroner to expand on the additional factors
    that led to death. Ultimately, she concluded, real time death data could
    be unreliable.

    She is now concerned now that �post-disaster conditions that may promote >hopelessness are all increased, including economic instability, domestic >violence, depression and alcohol use� and that �we appear to have
    incubated a real sense of nihilism and hopelessness in younger people�.

    It�s a frustrating stage of the Covid-19 saga. Warnings at the time were >ignored and it is painful for experts such as Easthope to observe the
    impact on the public of chronic disaster and delayed support for
    physical and mental health, not to mention the toll on response workers
    who �tend to feel let down and morally injured by the state�.

    �It�s particularly important to consider long-term suicide when risk >assessing economic policies,� says Easthope. �Things like furlough
    schemes have positives but also come with substantial emotional
    negatives such as future redundancy, effects on self-worth, esteem and >purpose. All disaster decisions come with negatives, there are no purely >perfect answers. Discussion of the negatives was not welcomed and people
    like me were seen as pessimistic if we raised suicide as a result of
    Cabinet or Treasury decisions. It was very hard to get traction in 2020
    and 2021 with these concerns.�

    Whether suicide rates go up or go down, they are preventable and they
    are always too high. It�s a tragedy for suicide rates to be the highest
    in England for 25 years. If the pandemic and the never-before-used
    lockdowns turn out to be a factor in this devastating trend, we could
    well see the rates rise further.

    Share

    According to the Samaritans one in five of us have experienced suicidal >thoughts. If you�re going through a tough time, you don�t have to face
    it alone. Call Samaritans day or night on 116 123. Email [email protected].

    In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
    GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's
    secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps
    us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
    pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
    100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**
    appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).

    Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
    COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the UK & elsewhere is by
    rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given
    moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
    contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
    "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
    Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
    scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
    Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
    combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
    that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no
    longer effective.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ
    ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?

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    (Laura) 04/23/24 Again not a LoosePeeledQuackIdiot bigot ...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/Ai33hw5PINI/m/wytVpY68MwAJ

    Instead be "woke" to the sin of racial prejudice:

    https://tinyurl.com/JesusIsWoke (i.e. not a Nazi bigot) *and* risen!!!

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  • From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to HeartDoc Andrew on Mon Apr 22 22:17:36 2024
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    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    HeartDoc Andrew wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1caolm0/the_rise_in_suicide_suicide_rates_are_now_the/

    The rise in suicide
    Suicide rates are now the highest they have been in England for 25 years.

    LAURA DODSWORTH
    APR 20, 2024

    Suicide rates are now the highest they have been in England for 25 years.

    The Office for National Statistics (ONS) has released the latest report
    of quarterly suicide death registrations in England for Quarter 4
    (October to December) of 2023. Unfortunately, it shows a 6% rise, which
    is the highest national rate of suicides since 1999. There were 1,439
    suicides registered in Quarter 4, equivalent to 11.4 suicide deaths per
    100,000 people. Overall there were 5,579 suicides registered in England,
    which is significantly higher than 2021 and 2020.

    It’s difficult to attribute causes to individual suicides, as well as
    trends. While it is important to to be responsible and circumspect when
    speculating, this notable and recent upshift in suicide deaths should be
    analysed and monitored.

    Share

    The ONS figures need to be interpreted with some caution because there
    is a delay in coronial inquests, meaning that only 39.3% of the deaths
    registered in 2023 had a date of death in the same year, and some of the
    deaths occurred in 2022 and 2021. Crucially, this means that we should
    be cautious about making conclusions for 2023 at the moment as there
    will still be a large number of suicides that occurred in 2023 which
    have not yet been registered.

    So what might have caused the trend? Professor Louis Appleby who chairs
    the National Suicide Prevention Strategy Advisory Group has commented on
    the uptick in suicides on Twitter. He suggested that the likeliest cause
    is the economic downturn and cost of living crisis. Historically
    recessions cause suicide rates to increase. The North East, North West
    and East of England have seen the most significant increases in suicide,
    but the North East, Midlands and London are actually the three regions
    with the highest levels of poverty, so this theory does not necessarily
    tally up neatly. The significant jump in the North West specifically
    might indicate a change in the way deaths have been recorded. The
    economic effect Appleby proposes would also not easily explain that the
    increase for women was greatest in the over 60s.

    Could there be another factor? Appleby has zoned in on the economy for
    obvious and sound reasons, but has so far ignored a key factor.

    In April 2021, Professor Appleby was the Lead Author of the report
    ‘Suicide in England in the COVID-19 pandemic: Early observational data >>from real time surveillance’, analysing ’real time surveillance’ (RTS) >> of suspected suicides during the pandemic and lockdowns. Despite greater
    distress, the study did not find evidence of an increase in suicide
    rates. Ensuing ONS month by month data for 2020 and 2021 also showed no
    increase in suicides.

    There was a vital caveat which needed to applied to this data which,
    although present within the ONS report, wasn’t given much weight by
    people who endorsed the findings: it was too early to be sure. Suicide
    is a verdict given by a coronial court, and does not operate in ‘real
    time’. Some courts were running almost a year behind on case load during >> the pandemic. This was not something to be ignored in favour of real
    time data — the coronial verdict is not simply a rubber stamping
    process. Analysis based on real time surveillance might have delivered a
    reassuring answer at the time to people who wanted to believe that the
    pandemic, lockdowns and other distressing NPIs didn’t ultimately lead to >> the most tragic consequences, but it was too soon to deliver a verdict.

    Indeed, Appleby’s tweet thread on 12th April 2023, just over a year ago, >> was confident in its assumptions:

    ‘New @ONS data give us, for first time, national suicide rates month by
    month for Covid years 2020 & 2021, compared to earlier years. Graph
    shows no rise in these years overall, or any month, or any period of
    pandemic, including lockdown.

    What can we learn from this?

    It may tell us something about the protective power of social cohesion,
    of looking out for each other, of community, with its message of
    acceptance & concern.

    If so, we need to hang on to it. It hasn’t looked in strong supply lately. >>
    It may confirm something we saw after the 2008 recession, the
    life-saving impact of economic support - for people on benefits or in
    debt or fearing for their jobs & homes.

    Particularly important as we head further into the cost of living crisis.

    It reminds us to look at the evidence, no matter what the headlines claim. >>
    Or the Twitter “likes”.

    Or the academics who should know better.

    Or the current attempt at revisionism in the media.'

    Type your email...
    Subscribe
    In a National Confidential Inquiry into Suicide and Safety in Mental
    Health presentation, Appleby suggested a number of reasons why suicide
    had not increased. Despite the obvious anxiety about Covid-19, the tough
    lockdowns, economic ramifications and huge societal changes, he believed
    people were protected due to a combination of:

    economic protections;

    a supposed increase in social cohesion;

    increased vigilance and support from family, friends and neighbours;

    reduced access to certain methods of suicide;

    a sense of short-term crisis.

    These could well have prevented the rise in suicide at the time, but
    conclusions from previous analyses of other disasters warn that the rise
    in suicide does not occur during the disaster, but afterwards. The lack
    of rise in suicides was in keeping with disaster literature. A
    subsequent increase in suicide - as we see happening now - is also in
    keeping with disaster literature.


    In the early psychological phases of disaster — ‘heroic’ and ‘honeymoon’
    — you would not expect to see more suicides. They come afterwards. In
    the case of a ‘slow disaster’ like Covid-19, this could be some time
    afterwards.

    To receive all new posts and support my work, please subscribe.

    Type your email...
    Subscribe
    At the time, Professor Lucy Easthope, the country’s leading authority on >> disaster and recovery, commented that the real time surveillance data
    was very useful, but that more attention should be given to the role of
    the coronial process as well as the underreporting of possible suicides
    which can be recorded as either an open verdict or crucially a narrative
    verdict which allows the coroner to expand on the additional factors
    that led to death. Ultimately, she concluded, real time death data could
    be unreliable.

    She is now concerned now that ‘post-disaster conditions that may promote >> hopelessness are all increased, including economic instability, domestic
    violence, depression and alcohol use’ and that ‘we appear to have
    incubated a real sense of nihilism and hopelessness in younger people’.

    It’s a frustrating stage of the Covid-19 saga. Warnings at the time were >> ignored and it is painful for experts such as Easthope to observe the
    impact on the public of chronic disaster and delayed support for
    physical and mental health, not to mention the toll on response workers
    who ‘tend to feel let down and morally injured by the state’.

    ‘It’s particularly important to consider long-term suicide when risk
    assessing economic policies,’ says Easthope. ‘Things like furlough
    schemes have positives but also come with substantial emotional
    negatives such as future redundancy, effects on self-worth, esteem and
    purpose. All disaster decisions come with negatives, there are no purely
    perfect answers. Discussion of the negatives was not welcomed and people
    like me were seen as pessimistic if we raised suicide as a result of
    Cabinet or Treasury decisions. It was very hard to get traction in 2020
    and 2021 with these concerns.’

    Whether suicide rates go up or go down, they are preventable and they
    are always too high. It’s a tragedy for suicide rates to be the highest
    in England for 25 years. If the pandemic and the never-before-used
    lockdowns turn out to be a factor in this devastating trend, we could
    well see the rates rise further.

    Share

    According to the Samaritans one in five of us have experienced suicidal
    thoughts. If you’re going through a tough time, you don’t have to face >> it alone. Call Samaritans day or night on 116 123. Email [email protected].

    In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
    GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's
    secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps
    us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
    pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
    100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**
    appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).

    Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
    COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the UK & elsewhere is by
    rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
    contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
    "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
    Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
    scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
    Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
    combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
    that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no
    longer effective.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ
    ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?

    I am wonderfully hungry!


    Michael

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Tue Apr 23 01:38:16 2024
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    Michael Ejercito wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1caolm0/the_rise_in_suicide_suicide_rates_are_now_the/

    The rise in suicide
    Suicide rates are now the highest they have been in England for 25 years. >>>
    LAURA DODSWORTH
    APR 20, 2024

    Suicide rates are now the highest they have been in England for 25 years. >>>
    The Office for National Statistics (ONS) has released the latest report
    of quarterly suicide death registrations in England for Quarter 4
    (October to December) of 2023. Unfortunately, it shows a 6% rise, which
    is the highest national rate of suicides since 1999. There were 1,439
    suicides registered in Quarter 4, equivalent to 11.4 suicide deaths per
    100,000 people. Overall there were 5,579 suicides registered in England, >>> which is significantly higher than 2021 and 2020.

    It�s difficult to attribute causes to individual suicides, as well as
    trends. While it is important to to be responsible and circumspect when
    speculating, this notable and recent upshift in suicide deaths should be >>> analysed and monitored.

    Share

    The ONS figures need to be interpreted with some caution because there
    is a delay in coronial inquests, meaning that only 39.3% of the deaths
    registered in 2023 had a date of death in the same year, and some of the >>> deaths occurred in 2022 and 2021. Crucially, this means that we should
    be cautious about making conclusions for 2023 at the moment as there
    will still be a large number of suicides that occurred in 2023 which
    have not yet been registered.

    So what might have caused the trend? Professor Louis Appleby who chairs
    the National Suicide Prevention Strategy Advisory Group has commented on >>> the uptick in suicides on Twitter. He suggested that the likeliest cause >>> is the economic downturn and cost of living crisis. Historically
    recessions cause suicide rates to increase. The North East, North West
    and East of England have seen the most significant increases in suicide, >>> but the North East, Midlands and London are actually the three regions
    with the highest levels of poverty, so this theory does not necessarily
    tally up neatly. The significant jump in the North West specifically
    might indicate a change in the way deaths have been recorded. The
    economic effect Appleby proposes would also not easily explain that the
    increase for women was greatest in the over 60s.

    Could there be another factor? Appleby has zoned in on the economy for
    obvious and sound reasons, but has so far ignored a key factor.

    In April 2021, Professor Appleby was the Lead Author of the report
    �Suicide in England in the COVID-19 pandemic: Early observational data >>>from real time surveillance�, analysing �real time surveillance� (RTS)
    of suspected suicides during the pandemic and lockdowns. Despite greater >>> distress, the study did not find evidence of an increase in suicide
    rates. Ensuing ONS month by month data for 2020 and 2021 also showed no
    increase in suicides.

    There was a vital caveat which needed to applied to this data which,
    although present within the ONS report, wasn�t given much weight by
    people who endorsed the findings: it was too early to be sure. Suicide
    is a verdict given by a coronial court, and does not operate in �real
    time�. Some courts were running almost a year behind on case load during >>> the pandemic. This was not something to be ignored in favour of real
    time data � the coronial verdict is not simply a rubber stamping
    process. Analysis based on real time surveillance might have delivered a >>> reassuring answer at the time to people who wanted to believe that the
    pandemic, lockdowns and other distressing NPIs didn�t ultimately lead to >>> the most tragic consequences, but it was too soon to deliver a verdict.

    Indeed, Appleby�s tweet thread on 12th April 2023, just over a year ago, >>> was confident in its assumptions:

    �New @ONS data give us, for first time, national suicide rates month by
    month for Covid years 2020 & 2021, compared to earlier years. Graph
    shows no rise in these years overall, or any month, or any period of
    pandemic, including lockdown.

    What can we learn from this?

    It may tell us something about the protective power of social cohesion,
    of looking out for each other, of community, with its message of
    acceptance & concern.

    If so, we need to hang on to it. It hasn�t looked in strong supply lately. >>>
    It may confirm something we saw after the 2008 recession, the
    life-saving impact of economic support - for people on benefits or in
    debt or fearing for their jobs & homes.

    Particularly important as we head further into the cost of living crisis. >>>
    It reminds us to look at the evidence, no matter what the headlines claim. >>>
    Or the Twitter �likes�.

    Or the academics who should know better.

    Or the current attempt at revisionism in the media.'

    Type your email...
    Subscribe
    In a National Confidential Inquiry into Suicide and Safety in Mental
    Health presentation, Appleby suggested a number of reasons why suicide
    had not increased. Despite the obvious anxiety about Covid-19, the tough >>> lockdowns, economic ramifications and huge societal changes, he believed >>> people were protected due to a combination of:

    economic protections;

    a supposed increase in social cohesion;

    increased vigilance and support from family, friends and neighbours;

    reduced access to certain methods of suicide;

    a sense of short-term crisis.

    These could well have prevented the rise in suicide at the time, but
    conclusions from previous analyses of other disasters warn that the rise >>> in suicide does not occur during the disaster, but afterwards. The lack
    of rise in suicides was in keeping with disaster literature. A
    subsequent increase in suicide - as we see happening now - is also in
    keeping with disaster literature.


    In the early psychological phases of disaster � �heroic� and �honeymoon� >>> � you would not expect to see more suicides. They come afterwards. In
    the case of a �slow disaster� like Covid-19, this could be some time
    afterwards.

    To receive all new posts and support my work, please subscribe.

    Type your email...
    Subscribe
    At the time, Professor Lucy Easthope, the country�s leading authority on >>> disaster and recovery, commented that the real time surveillance data
    was very useful, but that more attention should be given to the role of
    the coronial process as well as the underreporting of possible suicides
    which can be recorded as either an open verdict or crucially a narrative >>> verdict which allows the coroner to expand on the additional factors
    that led to death. Ultimately, she concluded, real time death data could >>> be unreliable.

    She is now concerned now that �post-disaster conditions that may promote >>> hopelessness are all increased, including economic instability, domestic >>> violence, depression and alcohol use� and that �we appear to have
    incubated a real sense of nihilism and hopelessness in younger people�.

    It�s a frustrating stage of the Covid-19 saga. Warnings at the time were >>> ignored and it is painful for experts such as Easthope to observe the
    impact on the public of chronic disaster and delayed support for
    physical and mental health, not to mention the toll on response workers
    who �tend to feel let down and morally injured by the state�.

    �It�s particularly important to consider long-term suicide when risk
    assessing economic policies,� says Easthope. �Things like furlough
    schemes have positives but also come with substantial emotional
    negatives such as future redundancy, effects on self-worth, esteem and
    purpose. All disaster decisions come with negatives, there are no purely >>> perfect answers. Discussion of the negatives was not welcomed and people >>> like me were seen as pessimistic if we raised suicide as a result of
    Cabinet or Treasury decisions. It was very hard to get traction in 2020
    and 2021 with these concerns.�

    Whether suicide rates go up or go down, they are preventable and they
    are always too high. It�s a tragedy for suicide rates to be the highest
    in England for 25 years. If the pandemic and the never-before-used
    lockdowns turn out to be a factor in this devastating trend, we could
    well see the rates rise further.

    Share

    According to the Samaritans one in five of us have experienced suicidal
    thoughts. If you�re going through a tough time, you don�t have to face
    it alone. Call Samaritans day or night on 116 123. Email [email protected]. >>
    In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
    GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's
    secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps
    us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
    pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
    100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**
    appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).

    Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
    COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the UK & elsewhere is by
    rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given
    moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
    contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
    "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and
    self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
    Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
    scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
    Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
    combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
    that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no
    longer effective.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry (
    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ >> ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?

    I am wonderfully hungry!

    While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
    8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, are rapture ready (Luke
    17:37 means no COVID just as eagles circling over their food have no
    COVID) and pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6)
    Father in Heaven continues to give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy
    Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have much more of His Help to
    always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways
    including especially caring to "convince it forward" (John 15:12) with
    all glory (Psalm112:1) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in
    the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO !

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  • From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to HeartDoc Andrew on Tue Apr 23 05:25:15 2024
    XPost: alt.bible.prophecy, uk.legal, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    HeartDoc Andrew wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1caolm0/the_rise_in_suicide_suicide_rates_are_now_the/

    The rise in suicide
    Suicide rates are now the highest they have been in England for 25 years. >>>>
    LAURA DODSWORTH
    APR 20, 2024

    Suicide rates are now the highest they have been in England for 25 years. >>>>
    The Office for National Statistics (ONS) has released the latest report >>>> of quarterly suicide death registrations in England for Quarter 4
    (October to December) of 2023. Unfortunately, it shows a 6% rise, which >>>> is the highest national rate of suicides since 1999. There were 1,439
    suicides registered in Quarter 4, equivalent to 11.4 suicide deaths per >>>> 100,000 people. Overall there were 5,579 suicides registered in England, >>>> which is significantly higher than 2021 and 2020.

    It’s difficult to attribute causes to individual suicides, as well as >>>> trends. While it is important to to be responsible and circumspect when >>>> speculating, this notable and recent upshift in suicide deaths should be >>>> analysed and monitored.

    Share

    The ONS figures need to be interpreted with some caution because there >>>> is a delay in coronial inquests, meaning that only 39.3% of the deaths >>>> registered in 2023 had a date of death in the same year, and some of the >>>> deaths occurred in 2022 and 2021. Crucially, this means that we should >>>> be cautious about making conclusions for 2023 at the moment as there
    will still be a large number of suicides that occurred in 2023 which
    have not yet been registered.

    So what might have caused the trend? Professor Louis Appleby who chairs >>>> the National Suicide Prevention Strategy Advisory Group has commented on >>>> the uptick in suicides on Twitter. He suggested that the likeliest cause >>>> is the economic downturn and cost of living crisis. Historically
    recessions cause suicide rates to increase. The North East, North West >>>> and East of England have seen the most significant increases in suicide, >>>> but the North East, Midlands and London are actually the three regions >>>> with the highest levels of poverty, so this theory does not necessarily >>>> tally up neatly. The significant jump in the North West specifically
    might indicate a change in the way deaths have been recorded. The
    economic effect Appleby proposes would also not easily explain that the >>>> increase for women was greatest in the over 60s.

    Could there be another factor? Appleby has zoned in on the economy for >>>> obvious and sound reasons, but has so far ignored a key factor.

    In April 2021, Professor Appleby was the Lead Author of the report
    ‘Suicide in England in the COVID-19 pandemic: Early observational data >>> >from real time surveillance’, analysing ’real time surveillance’ (RTS)
    of suspected suicides during the pandemic and lockdowns. Despite greater >>>> distress, the study did not find evidence of an increase in suicide
    rates. Ensuing ONS month by month data for 2020 and 2021 also showed no >>>> increase in suicides.

    There was a vital caveat which needed to applied to this data which,
    although present within the ONS report, wasn’t given much weight by
    people who endorsed the findings: it was too early to be sure. Suicide >>>> is a verdict given by a coronial court, and does not operate in ‘real >>>> time’. Some courts were running almost a year behind on case load during >>>> the pandemic. This was not something to be ignored in favour of real
    time data — the coronial verdict is not simply a rubber stamping
    process. Analysis based on real time surveillance might have delivered a >>>> reassuring answer at the time to people who wanted to believe that the >>>> pandemic, lockdowns and other distressing NPIs didn’t ultimately lead to >>>> the most tragic consequences, but it was too soon to deliver a verdict. >>>>
    Indeed, Appleby’s tweet thread on 12th April 2023, just over a year ago, >>>> was confident in its assumptions:

    ‘New @ONS data give us, for first time, national suicide rates month by >>>> month for Covid years 2020 & 2021, compared to earlier years. Graph
    shows no rise in these years overall, or any month, or any period of
    pandemic, including lockdown.

    What can we learn from this?

    It may tell us something about the protective power of social cohesion, >>>> of looking out for each other, of community, with its message of
    acceptance & concern.

    If so, we need to hang on to it. It hasn’t looked in strong supply lately.

    It may confirm something we saw after the 2008 recession, the
    life-saving impact of economic support - for people on benefits or in
    debt or fearing for their jobs & homes.

    Particularly important as we head further into the cost of living crisis. >>>>
    It reminds us to look at the evidence, no matter what the headlines claim. >>>>
    Or the Twitter “likes”.

    Or the academics who should know better.

    Or the current attempt at revisionism in the media.'

    Type your email...
    Subscribe
    In a National Confidential Inquiry into Suicide and Safety in Mental
    Health presentation, Appleby suggested a number of reasons why suicide >>>> had not increased. Despite the obvious anxiety about Covid-19, the tough >>>> lockdowns, economic ramifications and huge societal changes, he believed >>>> people were protected due to a combination of:

    economic protections;

    a supposed increase in social cohesion;

    increased vigilance and support from family, friends and neighbours;

    reduced access to certain methods of suicide;

    a sense of short-term crisis.

    These could well have prevented the rise in suicide at the time, but
    conclusions from previous analyses of other disasters warn that the rise >>>> in suicide does not occur during the disaster, but afterwards. The lack >>>> of rise in suicides was in keeping with disaster literature. A
    subsequent increase in suicide - as we see happening now - is also in
    keeping with disaster literature.


    In the early psychological phases of disaster — ‘heroic’ and ‘honeymoon’
    — you would not expect to see more suicides. They come afterwards. In >>>> the case of a ‘slow disaster’ like Covid-19, this could be some time >>>> afterwards.

    To receive all new posts and support my work, please subscribe.

    Type your email...
    Subscribe
    At the time, Professor Lucy Easthope, the country’s leading authority on >>>> disaster and recovery, commented that the real time surveillance data
    was very useful, but that more attention should be given to the role of >>>> the coronial process as well as the underreporting of possible suicides >>>> which can be recorded as either an open verdict or crucially a narrative >>>> verdict which allows the coroner to expand on the additional factors
    that led to death. Ultimately, she concluded, real time death data could >>>> be unreliable.

    She is now concerned now that ‘post-disaster conditions that may promote >>>> hopelessness are all increased, including economic instability, domestic >>>> violence, depression and alcohol use’ and that ‘we appear to have
    incubated a real sense of nihilism and hopelessness in younger people’. >>>>
    It’s a frustrating stage of the Covid-19 saga. Warnings at the time were >>>> ignored and it is painful for experts such as Easthope to observe the
    impact on the public of chronic disaster and delayed support for
    physical and mental health, not to mention the toll on response workers >>>> who ‘tend to feel let down and morally injured by the state’.

    ‘It’s particularly important to consider long-term suicide when risk >>>> assessing economic policies,’ says Easthope. ‘Things like furlough >>>> schemes have positives but also come with substantial emotional
    negatives such as future redundancy, effects on self-worth, esteem and >>>> purpose. All disaster decisions come with negatives, there are no purely >>>> perfect answers. Discussion of the negatives was not welcomed and people >>>> like me were seen as pessimistic if we raised suicide as a result of
    Cabinet or Treasury decisions. It was very hard to get traction in 2020 >>>> and 2021 with these concerns.’

    Whether suicide rates go up or go down, they are preventable and they
    are always too high. It’s a tragedy for suicide rates to be the highest >>>> in England for 25 years. If the pandemic and the never-before-used
    lockdowns turn out to be a factor in this devastating trend, we could
    well see the rates rise further.

    Share

    According to the Samaritans one in five of us have experienced suicidal >>>> thoughts. If you’re going through a tough time, you don’t have to face >>>> it alone. Call Samaritans day or night on 116 123. Email [email protected].

    In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
    GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's
    secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps
    us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
    pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
    100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**
    appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).

    Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
    COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the UK & elsewhere is by
    rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given
    moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
    contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
    "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and
    self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
    Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
    scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
    Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
    combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
    that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no
    longer effective.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry (
    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ >>> ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?

    I am wonderfully hungry!

    While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
    8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, are rapture ready (Luke
    17:37 means no COVID just as eagles circling over their food have no
    COVID) and pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6)
    Father in Heaven continues to give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy
    Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have much more of His Help to
    always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways
    including especially caring to "convince it forward" (John 15:12) with
    all glory (Psalm112:1) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in
    the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO !

    Thank you for noting that I have no COVID.


    Michael

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Tue Apr 23 10:09:16 2024
    XPost: alt.bible.prophecy, uk.legal, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    Michael Ejercito wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1caolm0/the_rise_in_suicide_suicide_rates_are_now_the/

    The rise in suicide
    Suicide rates are now the highest they have been in England for 25 years. >>>>>
    LAURA DODSWORTH
    APR 20, 2024

    Suicide rates are now the highest they have been in England for 25 years. >>>>>
    The Office for National Statistics (ONS) has released the latest report >>>>> of quarterly suicide death registrations in England for Quarter 4
    (October to December) of 2023. Unfortunately, it shows a 6% rise, which >>>>> is the highest national rate of suicides since 1999. There were 1,439 >>>>> suicides registered in Quarter 4, equivalent to 11.4 suicide deaths per >>>>> 100,000 people. Overall there were 5,579 suicides registered in England, >>>>> which is significantly higher than 2021 and 2020.

    It�s difficult to attribute causes to individual suicides, as well as >>>>> trends. While it is important to to be responsible and circumspect when >>>>> speculating, this notable and recent upshift in suicide deaths should be >>>>> analysed and monitored.

    Share

    The ONS figures need to be interpreted with some caution because there >>>>> is a delay in coronial inquests, meaning that only 39.3% of the deaths >>>>> registered in 2023 had a date of death in the same year, and some of the >>>>> deaths occurred in 2022 and 2021. Crucially, this means that we should >>>>> be cautious about making conclusions for 2023 at the moment as there >>>>> will still be a large number of suicides that occurred in 2023 which >>>>> have not yet been registered.

    So what might have caused the trend? Professor Louis Appleby who chairs >>>>> the National Suicide Prevention Strategy Advisory Group has commented on >>>>> the uptick in suicides on Twitter. He suggested that the likeliest cause >>>>> is the economic downturn and cost of living crisis. Historically
    recessions cause suicide rates to increase. The North East, North West >>>>> and East of England have seen the most significant increases in suicide, >>>>> but the North East, Midlands and London are actually the three regions >>>>> with the highest levels of poverty, so this theory does not necessarily >>>>> tally up neatly. The significant jump in the North West specifically >>>>> might indicate a change in the way deaths have been recorded. The
    economic effect Appleby proposes would also not easily explain that the >>>>> increase for women was greatest in the over 60s.

    Could there be another factor? Appleby has zoned in on the economy for >>>>> obvious and sound reasons, but has so far ignored a key factor.

    In April 2021, Professor Appleby was the Lead Author of the report
    �Suicide in England in the COVID-19 pandemic: Early observational data >>>> >from real time surveillance�, analysing �real time surveillance� (RTS) >>>>> of suspected suicides during the pandemic and lockdowns. Despite greater >>>>> distress, the study did not find evidence of an increase in suicide
    rates. Ensuing ONS month by month data for 2020 and 2021 also showed no >>>>> increase in suicides.

    There was a vital caveat which needed to applied to this data which, >>>>> although present within the ONS report, wasn�t given much weight by
    people who endorsed the findings: it was too early to be sure. Suicide >>>>> is a verdict given by a coronial court, and does not operate in �real >>>>> time�. Some courts were running almost a year behind on case load during >>>>> the pandemic. This was not something to be ignored in favour of real >>>>> time data � the coronial verdict is not simply a rubber stamping
    process. Analysis based on real time surveillance might have delivered a >>>>> reassuring answer at the time to people who wanted to believe that the >>>>> pandemic, lockdowns and other distressing NPIs didn�t ultimately lead to >>>>> the most tragic consequences, but it was too soon to deliver a verdict. >>>>>
    Indeed, Appleby�s tweet thread on 12th April 2023, just over a year ago, >>>>> was confident in its assumptions:

    �New @ONS data give us, for first time, national suicide rates month by >>>>> month for Covid years 2020 & 2021, compared to earlier years. Graph
    shows no rise in these years overall, or any month, or any period of >>>>> pandemic, including lockdown.

    What can we learn from this?

    It may tell us something about the protective power of social cohesion, >>>>> of looking out for each other, of community, with its message of
    acceptance & concern.

    If so, we need to hang on to it. It hasn�t looked in strong supply lately.

    It may confirm something we saw after the 2008 recession, the
    life-saving impact of economic support - for people on benefits or in >>>>> debt or fearing for their jobs & homes.

    Particularly important as we head further into the cost of living crisis. >>>>>
    It reminds us to look at the evidence, no matter what the headlines claim.

    Or the Twitter �likes�.

    Or the academics who should know better.

    Or the current attempt at revisionism in the media.'

    Type your email...
    Subscribe
    In a National Confidential Inquiry into Suicide and Safety in Mental >>>>> Health presentation, Appleby suggested a number of reasons why suicide >>>>> had not increased. Despite the obvious anxiety about Covid-19, the tough >>>>> lockdowns, economic ramifications and huge societal changes, he believed >>>>> people were protected due to a combination of:

    economic protections;

    a supposed increase in social cohesion;

    increased vigilance and support from family, friends and neighbours; >>>>>
    reduced access to certain methods of suicide;

    a sense of short-term crisis.

    These could well have prevented the rise in suicide at the time, but >>>>> conclusions from previous analyses of other disasters warn that the rise >>>>> in suicide does not occur during the disaster, but afterwards. The lack >>>>> of rise in suicides was in keeping with disaster literature. A
    subsequent increase in suicide - as we see happening now - is also in >>>>> keeping with disaster literature.


    In the early psychological phases of disaster � �heroic� and �honeymoon� >>>>> � you would not expect to see more suicides. They come afterwards. In >>>>> the case of a �slow disaster� like Covid-19, this could be some time >>>>> afterwards.

    To receive all new posts and support my work, please subscribe.

    Type your email...
    Subscribe
    At the time, Professor Lucy Easthope, the country�s leading authority on >>>>> disaster and recovery, commented that the real time surveillance data >>>>> was very useful, but that more attention should be given to the role of >>>>> the coronial process as well as the underreporting of possible suicides >>>>> which can be recorded as either an open verdict or crucially a narrative >>>>> verdict which allows the coroner to expand on the additional factors >>>>> that led to death. Ultimately, she concluded, real time death data could >>>>> be unreliable.

    She is now concerned now that �post-disaster conditions that may promote >>>>> hopelessness are all increased, including economic instability, domestic >>>>> violence, depression and alcohol use� and that �we appear to have
    incubated a real sense of nihilism and hopelessness in younger people�. >>>>>
    It�s a frustrating stage of the Covid-19 saga. Warnings at the time were >>>>> ignored and it is painful for experts such as Easthope to observe the >>>>> impact on the public of chronic disaster and delayed support for
    physical and mental health, not to mention the toll on response workers >>>>> who �tend to feel let down and morally injured by the state�.

    �It�s particularly important to consider long-term suicide when risk >>>>> assessing economic policies,� says Easthope. �Things like furlough
    schemes have positives but also come with substantial emotional
    negatives such as future redundancy, effects on self-worth, esteem and >>>>> purpose. All disaster decisions come with negatives, there are no purely >>>>> perfect answers. Discussion of the negatives was not welcomed and people >>>>> like me were seen as pessimistic if we raised suicide as a result of >>>>> Cabinet or Treasury decisions. It was very hard to get traction in 2020 >>>>> and 2021 with these concerns.�

    Whether suicide rates go up or go down, they are preventable and they >>>>> are always too high. It�s a tragedy for suicide rates to be the highest >>>>> in England for 25 years. If the pandemic and the never-before-used
    lockdowns turn out to be a factor in this devastating trend, we could >>>>> well see the rates rise further.

    Share

    According to the Samaritans one in five of us have experienced suicidal >>>>> thoughts. If you�re going through a tough time, you don�t have to face >>>>> it alone. Call Samaritans day or night on 116 123. Email [email protected].

    In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
    GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's >>>> secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps >>>> us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
    pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
    100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**
    appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).

    Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
    COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the UK & elsewhere is by
    rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given >>>> moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
    contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
    "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and
    self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
    Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
    scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
    Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
    combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
    that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no
    longer effective.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry (
    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ
    ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?

    I am wonderfully hungry!

    While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
    8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, are rapture ready (Luke
    17:37 means no COVID just as eagles circling over their food have no
    COVID) and pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6)
    Father in Heaven continues to give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy
    Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have much more of His Help to
    always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways
    including especially caring to "convince it forward" (John 15:12) with
    all glory (Psalm112:1) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in
    the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO !

    Thank you for noting that I have no COVID.

    Just please do likewise as our LORD Jesus & I have done for you,
    Michael, and http://go.WDJW.net/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12)

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  • From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 24 06:44:13 2024
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    Quack Andrew B. Chung = SHEIN = Anita = jew paedophile BARRY 'jewface' SHEINabout 22 hours ago
    Tue, 23 Apr 2024 05:25:15 -0700, NOT Michael Ejercito
    <b'ris>
    Thank you for noting that I have no COVID.
    Remote diagnoses such as Quack Chung's are USELESS, gook! You DO got
    Covid and you're spreading it to Humans in your host country!
    Mangina, I have no COVID!

    You are a Nazi.

    As a Nazi, you are, above all else, a craven coward.

    You are afraid to compete with others as equals because you know you
    can not measure up.

    You are afraid of your own inadequacy, so you want to murder your
    betters.

    You are afraid of the truth, so you want to murder those who would
    tell it.

    You are afraid of history, so you want to murder the past, to wipe
    out the knowledge of the degeneracy, cowardice and failure of National Socialism.

    Finally, you are afraid of the power of educated, informed adults.
    Freedom of choice terrifies you… which is why you choose minor children
    as sexual partners. You can not interact with competent adults in a consensually sexual way. You need to be able to impose yourself on a
    helpless victim, be it a prepubescent boy, or a patient in a mental
    hospital.

    That is what you are, a Nazi, and there is nothing polite or honest
    about it.


    Michael

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 24 10:27:01 2024
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    (Laura) 04/24/24 Again praying w/ Michael here ...

    https://narkive.com/gsKtPpiE.5

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 24 23:36:07 2024
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    (Laura) 04/24/24 AgainX2 praying w/ Michael here ...

    https://narkive.com/gsKtPpiE.5

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 26 23:01:52 2025
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    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    (Laura) 02/26/25 Again not a LoosePeeledWhiteChristianBigot...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/Ai33hw5PINI/m/wytVpY68MwAJ

    Instead be "woke" to the sin of racial prejudice:

    https://tinyurl.com/JesusIsWoke (i.e. not a Nazi bigot) *and* risen!!!

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Thu Feb 27 09:46:28 2025
    XPost: alt.bible.prophecy, uk.legal, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    Michael Ejercito wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1iz2ca0/counting_the_dead_how_the_uk_failed_at_the/


    Counting the dead
    How the UK failed at the logistics of death when it mattered most
    Laura Dodsworth
    Feb 26, 2025

    The Day of Reflection � But Not on Everything

    On 9th March 2025, the government wants us to reflect�but only on
    approved narratives. Missing from their script are the long-term
    consequences of lockdowns, mandates, economic devastation, and social
    division.

    In the lead-up to this carefully curated day, I�ll be publishing a
    series of articles which offer alternative reflections. Today, an
    article originally published in The Critic magazine on 11th September 2020. >>>
    We humans keep dying. We always have. We always will. In 2019,
    approximately 57,000,000 people died globally, and 600,000 people in the >>> UK, which equates to 1,600 people per day. As the only real certainty of >>> life is that we are all going to die, we should be better at the death
    business by now.

    It�s important to count the dead. We count the big numbers and compare
    them annually � excess deaths are a barometer that �something is
    happening�. But we also need to know and record how people die for
    public health management: planning NHS resources in the future, to
    inform government policy, for legal and jurisprudence reasons, and to
    provide certainty and alleviate the concerns and grief of the bereaved�s >>> family.

    While death and disease have dominated the headlines in the UK for most
    of 2020, we�re less good at considering our own demise. Perhaps the
    potent blend of death tolls in the headlines and our intrinsic fear of
    death blunted the nation�s ability to scrutinise exactly what these
    totals actually mean.

    The UK�s emergency legislation in response to Covid-19 has radically
    changed how deaths are registered. If the Imperial modelling that
    predicted 500,000 deaths came to pass, it would be essential to fast
    track the registering and disposal of bodies. The UK did not want an
    Italy or Ecuador situation with bodies piling up. But this came at a
    cost: at a time when it is crucial to understand why people are dying,
    we have less clarity due to the changes in registration and recording,
    and due to lack of preparedness there are other social costs to count.

    �Unprecedented� has been horribly over-used this year � and simply does
    not stack up against other bad flu years � but it should not equal
    �unplanned�. Ministers claimed not to have read the 2016 Exercise Cygnus >>> pandemic planning report. Before Cygnus there was 2007�s Exercise Winter >>> Willow, as well detailed debriefs into SARS, MERS, H1N1 and even Ebola.
    Plans should have been robust and flexible, but the NHS and Public
    Health England were ill-prepared in terms of surge capacity and PPE stocks. >>>
    �Unprecedented� is no excuse when pandemics are the basic bread and
    butter of disaster planning. Lucy Easthope is a disaster planner with a
    special interest in pre-emptive pandemic and recovery planning. She has
    advised the government on Covid-19, as well as Grenfell, the Salisbury
    Novichok poisoning and the Manchester bombing. She is the visible
    representation of the depth and detail of the UK�s disaster preparation
    and puts lie to the so-called lack of planning. She said, �The media and >>> the government have sold the idea that no one could have expected this,
    but a pandemic is the most likely national risk, and very well prepared
    for in the Home Office and the Cabinet.�

    Easthope is involved in planning for excess death and told me the UK is
    ready to store thousands of bodies: �For every Covid-19 death we would
    estimate another four deaths over two to five years, and that is how we
    plan body storage. You see extra deaths for domestic violence and
    obstetrics, delayed or missed oncology diagnosis, no admission to A&E,
    sepsis, suicide.�

    So, should we have locked down? She is cautious, saying, �The virus is
    nasty, and it must be respected. Some social changes would be essential, >>> but otherwise I would advocate business as usual. The idea that
    essential civil function and hospitals would shut is incredible. In a
    pandemic you plan to keep as much open as possible.�

    I spoke to a coroner (who does not wish to be named) who confirmed that
    the UK quickly increased mortuary capacity. They think the lockdown and
    changes to death registrations were necessary when knowledge was scant
    and threatened by having to house and process 500,000 bodies. As it
    turned out, �the epidemic was essentially the sort of pressure we get
    over a normal winter. It was way less than what we had planned for.�

    A scientific advisor deeply embedded in Whitehall also spoke to me
    anonymously. They told me they warned that there would be severe
    consequences for excess deaths if the country locked down. �Lockdown was >>> not the way to go,� they said. �Bluntly, you should try and power
    through an epidemic. Lockdown was obviously going tank the economy. We
    have never trained for a lockdown like this. You don�t do it for a
    coronavirus. I�ve been through all my papers. It�s just not something we >>> do.�

    Except we did. The difficulty now is that although death totals are
    confidently asserted, the relaxation of the death registration in order
    to cope with the worst-case scenario, means we don�t really know how
    many people have died of Covid-19. Where once a doctor had to have seen
    the deceased within 14 days of death to sign off a death certificate,
    now it is 28 days. And in a time of social distancing, what does
    �seeing� actually mean? It might be a zoom appointment or telephone
    call. Remote verification of the body is even possible by someone who is >>> not a medical professional although they should be independent of family >>> members.

    The problem is the UK does not have a functioning Medical Examiner
    system. It was being rolled out in England and Wales to add a
    safeguarding scrutiny to non-coronial deaths and improve the quality of
    death certification. A second, more senior doctor should agree the
    proposed cause of death. This would mean arbitrary rules like 28 days or >>> 14 days since seeing the deceased could be relaxed, and it should also
    safeguard against another Harold Shipman. The implementation varies
    across different hospital trusts, there is no software yet to manage it
    nationwide, and the senior doctors who should act as Medical Examiners
    were called to frontline work during the epidemic.

    The anonymous scientific advisor is frank about the result: �We have no
    idea how many people died because of this disease.� Easthope confirmed
    that �we have a crisis in death recording.�

    15,460 deaths have occurred in care homes in England and Wales, which is >>> over a third of the total Covid-19 deaths, and approximately another
    5,000 care home residents have died with Covid-19 after being
    transferred to hospital. Another 746in hospices. However, there is
    growing uncertainty about some care home deaths.

    I spoke to a care home worker in the north of England about this
    problem. They have had cases where Covid-19 has been inaccurately put on >>> the death certificate as the cause of death or an underlying cause of
    death. One resident, well into her 80s, tested positive for coronavirus
    at the end of March, when she had mild symptoms. She recovered but went
    on to die in August. A covering doctor who had never met the resident or >>> seen the body, insisted that Covid-19 must have been a cause of death.
    The care home worker says, �She actually died of old age, quite
    peacefully and contentedly. Old age isn�t supposed to be used on death
    certificates, but sometimes it�s what it is.� How many times has this
    happened in care homes across the country?

    There are a number of dangers. The Covid-19 death total is probably
    inflated as it has been liberally applied on death certificates. But a
    positive test doesn�t mean Covid-19 was necessarily a contributing cause >>> of death. As all of my interviewees said, we have no idea how often this >>> has happened, and now we never will.

    Lockdown itself has caused a horrifying number of excess deaths, just as >>> Easthope warned. By the end of July, one report attributed 21,000 of the >>> excess deaths to lockdown, as a result of delays to treatment. There is
    an �epidemic� of people needlessly dying at home because they are
    reluctant, or unable, to seek medical help.

    Frontline mental health professionals are concerned about the impact of
    lockdown. One ONS study showed that the number of people experiencing
    some sort of depression increased from one in ten to one in five during
    lockdown. Suicide is the biggest killer of young people in the UK. Some
    children remain on lengthy waiting lists for mental health treatment.
    Ged Flynn, CEO of suicide charity Papyrus says, �This is scandalous.
    Saving young lives is no longer a national priority and we must change
    that.� Nine out of ten calls to Papyrus during lockdown reflected the
    impact of Covid-19 and lockdown, with many concerned about a loss of
    income, reduction in service provision, domestic violence and abuse, and >>> the potential to become infected with Covid-19. Ged warns of the
    �longer-term problem of emotional distress� for young people as the
    impact of lockdown continues and mental health services are stretched.

    We have never recorded and announced the deaths of one disease with such >>> dedication. Was this in the spirit of public information or was there an >>> intention to use the metrics designed to create fear? At the outset the
    British public was informed how many people had died every day. As the
    numbers started decreasing, the focus moved to the �R� number � the rate >>> of transmission, seemingly generated by a mysterious alchemy � and then
    to new cases, where we are now. Increasing cases are, of course, also a
    result of increased testing. Crucially, this means the number of cases
    can be as large or as small as public policy determines, rather than
    indicative of the spread or danger of the virus.

    It�s just been announced that positive results will be repeatedly
    tested, hopefully eliminating some false positives. It�s interesting
    that this coincides with the lockdown screws tightening, as gatherings
    are reduced from 30 to six, and the first curfew since the Second World
    War is threatened. Ministers will be able to proclaim the success of
    these restrictions when �cases� can be influenced depending on
    sensitivity and volume of testing. We cannot leave the counting to them. >>>
    Public Health England death totals had to be revised down after their
    counting fiasco was exposed by Carl Heneghan. If you tested positive for >>> Covid-19, your death at any time would have been counted as a Covid-19
    death. Professor John Newton, Director of Health Improvement at Public
    Health England, said, �The way we count deaths in people with Covid-19
    in England was originally chosen to avoid underestimating deaths caused
    by the virus in the early stages of the pandemic.� Did the statistics
    become politicised?

    �Death endures as a metric. Even if the death tolls are revised down, as >>> with PHE�s count, the numbers endure,� said Easthope. �In the UK and the >>> US, death is the metric that we have to come to measure catastrophe by.� >>>
    The anonymous scientific advisor wonders if the choice of metrics
    reported and the way we count deaths might be part of a plan to increase >>> fear. After all, we know that SAGE recommended that people�s sense of
    personal threat needed to be increased to encourage compliance with
    rules. Even now we have passed the peak of the pandemic, government
    messaging still centres on fear.

    Easthope is worried that �we�ve done something incredibly traumatising
    to the families that is potentially bigger than the bereavement itself.
    In any disaster you should still allow people to see the dead. It is a
    gross inhumanity of bad planning that people couldn�t visit the sick,
    view the deceased�s bodies, or attend funerals. Had we had a more
    liberal PPE stockpile we could have done this. PPE is about accessing
    your loved ones and dead ones, it is not just about medical professionals.� >>>
    Good planning was cast aside. We were not equipped to process the Covid
    dead, and we�ll never be able to properly count them. In decades to
    come, when the inevitable reports and studies are published they will be >>> littered with asterisks and freighted with footnotes. Or worse, taken
    dangerously at face value.

    Beyond counting the dead, how do we count the cost to ourselves? Dying
    alone in a hospice, last rites delivered in full PPE, no family beside
    the bed. People unable to visit elderly relatives in care homes for
    months. Funerals limited to ten people. The young calling suicide
    helplines, bewildered and traumatised. The uncertainty over cause of
    deaths, the lack of closure. For this, we need the ultimate inquest and
    then the birth of better ways to count the dead.

    In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
    GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's
    secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps
    us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
    pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
    100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**
    appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).

    Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
    COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the UK & elsewhere is by
    rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given
    moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
    contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
    "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and
    self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
    Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
    scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
    Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
    combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
    that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no
    longer effective.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry (
    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ >> ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?

    I am wonderfully hungry!


    While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
    8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, are rapture ready (Luke
    17:37 means no COVID just as eagles circling over their food have no
    COVID) and pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6)
    Father in Heaven continues to give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy
    Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have much more of His Help to
    always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways
    including especially caring to "convince it forward" (John 15:12) with
    all glory (Psalm112:1) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in
    the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO !

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  • From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to HeartDoc Andrew on Mon Jun 23 08:10:05 2025
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    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    HeartDoc Andrew wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1lfdix0/covid_virologist_dr_chris_smith_faces_redundancy/


    Virologist who explained Covid faces redundancy
    3 days ago

    Share

    Save
    Laura Devlin
    BBC News, Cambridgeshire
    Chris Smith Chris Smith, a man with light brown hair, wearing a blue and >>>> white checked shirt. He is sitting in front of radio recording
    equipment. A screen over his left shoulder is showing The Naked
    Scientists logo of a man in a white coat with his arms
    outstretched.Chris Smith
    Dr Chris Smith is a "public understanding of science" fellow at the
    university
    A virologist who helped explain Covid-19 to a worldwide audience of
    millions has accused the University of Cambridge of "amnesia" as it
    threatened to make his post redundant.

    Dr Chris Smith heads up the university-based The Naked Scientists
    podcast, which helps the public understand and engage with science,
    technology and medicine - including during coronavirus.

    He said the university wanted to "kill me off" to cut costs, despite
    helping to put the university "on the map" during the pandemic.

    A university spokesman said: "The University of Cambridge is currently >>>> consulting with Dr Chris Smith about the future of his role within the >>>> university."

    Dr Smith's job is split across the university - where he is a "public
    understanding of science fellow" - and at Addenbrooke's Hospital in
    Cambridge. His university-funded clinical work as a consultant
    virologist is at risk by default.

    The Naked Scientists, which he began in 2001, has racked up 150 million >>>> downloads and produces several hours of content each week, with Dr Smith >>>> and his team questioning scientists and doctors - often from the
    university - on a variety of subjects.

    Dr Smith also appears as an expert on TV and radio, including BBC 5Live, >>>> BBC Radio 2 and the BBC's News Channel.

    "I've been doing this for 25 years and they're going to kill it off, and >>>> kill me off, when I've been devoting my life to this," he added.

    During the pandemic he gave more than 2,000 interviews to help audiences >>>> understand what was happening and why, and said he still received
    messages from people who found him "reassuring and helpful".

    "I think the university has amnesia; I worked for 15 hours a day, stuff >>>> going out to millions of people, on BBC Breakfast every Saturday, and I >>>> never got so much as an email from the university to say thanks.

    "All the kudos would have otherwise gone to Oxford, Imperial College and >>>> University College London - it put Cambridge on the map and they were
    enormous beneficiaries of that.

    "I know the strong impact of what I do, but they don't measure it - they >>>> will be assessing me based on research papers in journals and the
    reaction to that," he added, describing himself as "invisible".

    He said he had called for meetings with the university and not had a
    response, adding: "They are willing to cut two jobs in one fell swoop
    and not come to the table; it's not acceptable."

    Since making the news public he has received hundreds of messages and
    emails in support, with many also urging the university to rethink.

    "People are saying really strong stuff; they all think it's a terrible >>>> idea," he said.

    In a statement sent to the BBC, the university said The Naked Scientists >>>> podcast was a separate entity that it "neither owned, controlled nor had >>>> any direct influence over".

    Dr Smith argued Cambridge was "fully behind the project and its output" >>>> and had hired his radio producer, whose job was also at risk.

    A Cambridge University Hospitals spokesperson, on behalf of
    Addenbrooke's, said: "As his employer, the University of Cambridge is
    currently consulting with Dr Chris Smith, and we await the outcome of
    those discussions."

    In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
    GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's
    secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps
    us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
    pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
    100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**
    appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).

    Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
    COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the UK & elsewhere is by
    rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given
    moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
    contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
    "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and
    self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
    Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
    scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
    Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
    combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
    that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no
    longer effective.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry (
    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ >>> ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?

    I am wonderfully hungry!

    While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
    8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, are rapture ready (Luke
    17:37 means no COVID just as eagles circling over their food have no
    COVID) and pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6)
    Father in Heaven continues to give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy
    Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have much more of His Help to
    always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways
    including especially caring to "convince it forward" (John 15:12) with
    all glory (Psalm112:1) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in
    the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO !

    Thank you for noting that I have no COVID.


    Michael

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  • From HeartDoc Andrew@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Mon Jun 23 10:16:25 2025
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    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    Michael Ejercito wrote:
    HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
    Michael Ejercito wrote:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1lfdix0/covid_virologist_dr_chris_smith_faces_redundancy/


    Virologist who explained Covid faces redundancy
    3 days ago

    Share

    Save
    Laura Devlin
    BBC News, Cambridgeshire
    Chris Smith Chris Smith, a man with light brown hair, wearing a blue and >>> white checked shirt. He is sitting in front of radio recording
    equipment. A screen over his left shoulder is showing The Naked
    Scientists logo of a man in a white coat with his arms
    outstretched.Chris Smith
    Dr Chris Smith is a "public understanding of science" fellow at the
    university
    A virologist who helped explain Covid-19 to a worldwide audience of
    millions has accused the University of Cambridge of "amnesia" as it
    threatened to make his post redundant.

    Dr Chris Smith heads up the university-based The Naked Scientists
    podcast, which helps the public understand and engage with science,
    technology and medicine - including during coronavirus.

    He said the university wanted to "kill me off" to cut costs, despite
    helping to put the university "on the map" during the pandemic.

    A university spokesman said: "The University of Cambridge is currently
    consulting with Dr Chris Smith about the future of his role within the
    university."

    Dr Smith's job is split across the university - where he is a "public
    understanding of science fellow" - and at Addenbrooke's Hospital in
    Cambridge. His university-funded clinical work as a consultant
    virologist is at risk by default.

    The Naked Scientists, which he began in 2001, has racked up 150 million
    downloads and produces several hours of content each week, with Dr Smith >>> and his team questioning scientists and doctors - often from the
    university - on a variety of subjects.

    Dr Smith also appears as an expert on TV and radio, including BBC 5Live, >>> BBC Radio 2 and the BBC's News Channel.

    "I've been doing this for 25 years and they're going to kill it off, and >>> kill me off, when I've been devoting my life to this," he added.

    During the pandemic he gave more than 2,000 interviews to help audiences >>> understand what was happening and why, and said he still received
    messages from people who found him "reassuring and helpful".

    "I think the university has amnesia; I worked for 15 hours a day, stuff
    going out to millions of people, on BBC Breakfast every Saturday, and I
    never got so much as an email from the university to say thanks.

    "All the kudos would have otherwise gone to Oxford, Imperial College and >>> University College London - it put Cambridge on the map and they were
    enormous beneficiaries of that.

    "I know the strong impact of what I do, but they don't measure it - they >>> will be assessing me based on research papers in journals and the
    reaction to that," he added, describing himself as "invisible".

    He said he had called for meetings with the university and not had a
    response, adding: "They are willing to cut two jobs in one fell swoop
    and not come to the table; it's not acceptable."

    Since making the news public he has received hundreds of messages and
    emails in support, with many also urging the university to rethink.

    "People are saying really strong stuff; they all think it's a terrible
    idea," he said.

    In a statement sent to the BBC, the university said The Naked Scientists >>> podcast was a separate entity that it "neither owned, controlled nor had >>> any direct influence over".

    Dr Smith argued Cambridge was "fully behind the project and its output"
    and had hired his radio producer, whose job was also at risk.

    A Cambridge University Hospitals spokesperson, on behalf of
    Addenbrooke's, said: "As his employer, the University of Cambridge is
    currently consulting with Dr Chris Smith, and we await the outcome of
    those discussions."

    In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
    GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's
    secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps
    us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
    pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
    100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**
    appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).

    Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
    COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the UK & elsewhere is by
    rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given
    moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
    contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
    "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and
    self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
    Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
    scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
    Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
    combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
    that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no
    longer effective.

    Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry (
    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ >> ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

    So how are you ?

    I am wonderfully hungry!

    While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
    8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, are rapture ready (Luke
    17:37 means no COVID just as eagles circling over their food have no
    COVID) and pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6)
    Father in Heaven continues to give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy
    Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have much more of His Help to
    always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways
    including especially caring to "convince it forward" (John 15:12) with
    all glory (Psalm112:1) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in
    the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

    Laus DEO !

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