• inequalities in three variables

    From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 20 18:42:39 2023
    Is there a simple way to show algebraically that:

    b^2 >= (a - c)^2 AND a^2 >= b^2

    implies:

    c^2 >= (a + b)^2 OR c^2 >= (a - b)^2

    where ">=" denotes "greater or equal"?

    Martin.

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  • From DP@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 21 14:06:19 2023
    Le dimanche 20 août 2023 à 18:39:42 UTC+2, [email protected]d a écrit :
    Is there a simple way to show algebraically that:

    b^2 >= (a - c)^2 AND a^2 >= b^2

    implies:

    c^2 >= (a + b)^2 OR c^2 >= (a - b)^2

    where ">=" denotes "greater or equal"?

    Martin.

    Taking a = 2, b = 1, and c = -2 gives a counterexample as the first proposition is false, while the second true.

    Dan

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  • From DP@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 21 16:07:26 2023
    Le lundi 21 août 2023 à 23:06:21 UTC+2, DP a écrit :
    Le dimanche 20 août 2023 à 18:39:42 UTC+2, [email protected]d a écrit :
    Is there a simple way to show algebraically that:

    b^2 >= (a - c)^2 AND a^2 >= b^2

    implies:

    c^2 >= (a + b)^2 OR c^2 >= (a - b)^2

    where ">=" denotes "greater or equal"?

    Martin.
    Taking a = 2, b = 1, and c = -2 gives a counterexample as the first proposition is false, while the second true.

    Dan

    Sorry I misunderstood the problem, which is if the first proposition is true then the second is true as well.

    To show that let x = a+b, and y = a-b. Then from the first inequation it comes after simplification
    (c-x)(c-y) <= 0.

    So there are two cases:
    1) c <= x AND c >= y,
    2) c >= x AND c <= y.

    So either 1) is true and in this case
    c >= y, that is c >= a-b, c^2 >= (a-b)^2,
    or 2) is true and
    c >= a+b, c^2 >= (a+b)^2.

    Note that one could more completely say that
    either c^2 >= (a-b)^2 AND c^2 <= (a+b)^2 OR c^2 >= (a+b)^2 AND c^2 <= (a-b)^2.

    One could also keep the original inequations 1) and 2),
    c >= a-b AND c <= a+b OR c >= a+b AND c <= a-b.

    Also it seems I didn't use the second inequation a^2 >= b^2
    which yields xy >= 0 (x and y have the same sign).

    Dan

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